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Could any of you perhaps explain the following?
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV):
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
The punishment for rape is paying a fine and then perpetually raping the victim? That is messed up.
There is also some stuff about slavery. Take Exodus 21:20-21 (NIV):
Anyone who kidnaps someone and either sells them or still has them when they are caught must be put to death. Anyone who kidnaps a man must die. Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a result. However, if the slave recovers after a day or two, they are not to be punished; for the slave is their property.
Right from the word of god: people=property. Don't tell me that literal god had to bend his command around the acceptance of mortals. He's god. Also, even if you weren't going do condemn slavery, why do you have to validate it?
Then, there's the minor genocide god oversees in Joshua 6:21 (NIV):
They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
What did the babies do?! Generally god at least spares the virgins for the men to rape after they killed their families.
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (NIV):
When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife.
And of course, these people are going to go to heaven. They got permission from god to do these things, whereas atheists completely deserve eternal torment for keeping an open mind.
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Despite Christianity's talk of religious prosecution against them, atheists are the most hated group of people in the U.S, acording to Pew research center.
I recently came out as an atheist to some people in my social web. I was thinking that nothing would really change. These people knew that I cared about morality, that I donated to charities and spent afternoons volunteering.
It turned out, I was wrong. Not only that, but these people, (who I am somehow vastly more biblically literate than) had nothing but the most stupid arguments to defend their beliefs. Things like "you're just angry at god," and "Well now you're going to go to hell." There were also a lot of insults to my intelligence.
I'm not opposed to Christianity. I'm just shocked how hateful this community built around love is.
The Christians on this stie are quite open minded and well versed on your beliefs. Can y'all please talk some sense into your peers.
As much as it pains me, I'm going to keep lying about my faith to my friends in family. The disrespect and I have received from Christians is unbearable.
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What are your thoughts on this?
I don't understand why if an animal is in pain, it is of moral obligation to kill it. But if a person is dying and in pain, you must make them suffer the rest of their life.
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How can one be happy when they know that their loved ones are engulfed in burning agony in hell? If you were to be happy in heaven, you would have to not be you.
Christians like to say that the whole "burning in hell" stuff is all a metaphor, but if everything that gives Christians an issues is a metaphor, then that gives some credibility issues to everything else.
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Christians: Bible verses only sound cruel when taken out of context.
Joshua 6:21
- Verse: "They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys."
Ezekiel 9:5-6
- Verse: "As I listened, he said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children..."
Numbers 31:17-18
- Verse: "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
1 Samuel 15:3
- Verse: "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
Okay Christians, what's the context for those verses?
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Howard Dean's campaign crashed because of a scream.
Trump has:
Bragged about sexual assault
Been nearly impeached twice
Been convicted of sexual abuse
Called immigrants animals and rapists
Supported Putin
Had a group of his supporters mob that capital
Been convicted a felon unanimously
Committed civil fraud
The list goes on.
And yet, his supporters still idolize him, often creating elaborate stories to protect him, even when all evidence points otherwise.
What did he do to create such loyal supporters?
Trump has:
Bragged about sexual assault
Been nearly impeached twice
Been convicted of sexual abuse
Called immigrants animals and rapists
Supported Putin
Had a group of his supporters mob that capital
Been convicted a felon unanimously
Committed civil fraud
The list goes on.
And yet, his supporters still idolize him, often creating elaborate stories to protect him, even when all evidence points otherwise.
What did he do to create such loyal supporters?
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This topic is for recommending your favorite books.
My hope is that this thread will be continuously active as people mention any great books they've read.
My hope is that this thread will be continuously active as people mention any great books they've read.
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What questions would you need answers to if you were to convert to Christianity?
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This questions is mainly for use CatholicApologetics, though it would be great it anyone else wanted to contribute their opinion.
Grated, there is evidence for Christianity and the resurrection, but the Bible also has some pretty sexist things, as well as some messed up stuff about slavery, unbelievable stories about Noah's ark, and about the universe popping into existence, which has no scientific evidence, or how a loving god sends people to eternal suffering for being raised in a Muslim family. Not to mention all of the contradictions.
These are the main things that lead me away from the church.
The question is, how much of the bible do you think is the actual word of god, and how much of it do you think is flawed by the workings of man?
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THERE ARE 1,600 PEOPLE ON THIS SITE NOT SUBSCRIBED TO WYLTED!
IF WE GET HIM TO A MILLION SUBS WE MIGHT GET A NEW KARAOKE VIDEO!!!
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This issue has always been hard to me. I have a far lean to the pro life side, as when you strip down all the layers, abortion is killing babies. I would really like to here some pro choice arguments though to really understand both sides.
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As an attempt to gain a false sense of self worth, I'd like to figure out my IQ. Are there any reliable free tests out there, or will I need to spend some money. Any recommendations?
Also, it can't give me a below average IQ, because then it would be faulty.
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How do I ask people questions? I can't find any option allowing me to.
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Obviously not great. Thankfully, he's fine. So, what are your thoughts?
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So obviously, didn't do too well. Not how I envisioned my first game.
I'd really like to live longer than a day, so if someone else is going to start a Mafia game some time, can you contact me?
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Internet Nemesis wanted
Salary: gratitude
Requirements: Must currently have or be willing to develop a sincere and burning hatred for me.
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It's a choice I recommend all of you make as well. When the space lizards take control of the planet, you want to be on their good side.
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This is a question I've been thinking about recently, but honestly, I don't think there is a right answer. What are your opinions on this?
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I just received 3 credits for casting a debate vote. What are these?
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Any body want to start a debate. There aren't any good options open right now. I'm open to ideas.
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When ever I try to tag someone, an error message says "user not active"
Am I doing something wrong?
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This forum is to post whether or not you're religious, why you think that, and if you are, why you believe your religion is the best and most probable religion.
Please be respectful of other's views. Don't try to change anyone's minds in this posts. I just want to see all of the different perspectives out there.
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Louisiana now requires the ten commandments on a small poster in each classroom. What do you all think about this?
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I recently just watched the matrix, and asides a lot of logic gaps, one thing really bothered me. Why was the matrix actually a bad thing? For those of you who don't know the matrix is a shared simulation just like earth, but it's fake. Is there any reason you can think of that the movie actually has a point that living in a simulation would be a bad thing?
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