Louisiana now requires the ten commandments on a small poster in each classroom. What do you all think about this?
Ten Commandments in Classrooms
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1 Command: "dont violate bodies of others" pretty much outweighs those 10 all together by far.
So yeah, I guess I am smarter than whoever wrote the Bible.
You should worship me and build statues of me.
Well, a small statue would be nice here and there.
Also, its silly to have Commandments which Command you to believe in God.
Smart people dont believe in God.
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@Owen_T
Louisiana now requires the ten commandments on a small poster in each classroom. What do you all think about this?
YES, 100%
#1 - You shall have no other gods before me
#2 - You shall not make yourself any carved images
awesome, these two rules alone will solve all the problems in the united states
#45 - You shall vote for Trump
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@3RU7AL
#1 - You shall have no other gods before me
Well, yeah, always start with a lie.
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@FLRW
You shall vote for Trump
Brainless christians again vote for a literal Satan.
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@Best.Korea
You're really passionate about body rights, but what about all of the problems in the world, like theft. Respecting body rights won't fix everything.
We all ready do respect body rights, it most people do. Those who somehow violate some one else's body are punished for it. Our society DOES respect body rights, but we still have problems.
We all ready do respect body rights, it most people do. Those who somehow violate some one else's body are punished for it. Our society DOES respect body rights, but we still have problems.
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@Owen_T
like theft
Theft also violates body rights, since I need some property to live and stealing all my property kills me since if everyone was stealing, there would be shortages. Also, if a person steals from me, I have to use more of my body to work to make up for it, so its a violation of body.
We all ready do respect body rights
Not in USA. Circumcision, forced education, taxes, limits on free speech, parents and government owning children, corporal punishment, polluted air and environment...ect. Well, I could go on, but I wont.
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@Best.Korea
You should worship me and NOT build statues of me.
Where does the Bible command, “make no graven image of Jesus”?
Ah, you must mean the command to make no graven images generally. But you will have noticed, surely, that the actual command is, “You shall not make unto yourself any graven image.” Also, that in the Old Covenant numbering of the ten commandments, the commandment about images is subsumed under the general commandment forbidding strange gods.
The “unto yourself” is key. It prohibits a particular kind of personal investment in the image one has made. You will also notice that Moses’ instructions regarding the tent of meeting included creating images of pomegranates, and weaving images of pomegranates into the priestly vestments, and that the ark of the covenant was to be topped with the images of a pair of golden cherubim. Others have noted the command to create a brazen serpent and lift it on a pole so that healing might take place. The Jewish people held onto that serpent for centuries - as well they might - until some started worshiping it as a god - taking it “unto themselves” - which necessitated King Hezekiah’s ordering it to be destroyed. As well he might.
The Jewish interpretation of "no graven images" prohibits the creation and worship of idols or physical representations of God. This commandment is intended to ensure the worship of God remains abstract and not tied to any physical form.
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@Best.Korea
I would argue that some of the things you define as violation are needed. Parental control over children, taxes, forced education. These are all of obvious benefit to society and the people involved.
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@Owen_T
I would argue that some of the things you define as violation are needed. Parental control over children, taxes, forced education. These are all of obvious benefit to society and the people involved.
But they are still a violation of body, even if they seem beneficial. Besides, it doesnt follow that you get to violate person's body just because its beneficial. Forced marriages were proven to both increase birth rates and reduce suicide rates. Plus, school is not beneficial to all people. To many people, high school alone is a waste of time because the job they will be doing is irrelevant to what they learn in high school. Also, school is a place of obvious abuse, from having your body controlled to the point where you have to ask permission to pee, to the point of lots of bullying happening and lots of teasing happening, which even caused school shootings and suicides. So no, we cannot say that school is beneficial for all.
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@Owen_T
Good for them.
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@Owen_T
I’m not normally against religion in school. I’m an Atheist personally, but you can believe whatever you want in my book. My problem is the mandate part. You can believe whatever, but you can’t force your belief down other peoples throats.
Your definition of body violation is anything that interferes with someone's freewill.
So, by your logic, prison is bad for society, since it violates someone's "body rights." Would you agree with that?
Unrelated question, what are your views on abortion
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@Best.Korea
Forgot to tag you
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@Owen_T
Abortion is a practical surgical or medical solution to a problem.
Emotional overthink is an electro chemical data response, relative to conditioned data preferences.
Religion is generally nonsense, that analogically attempts to explain the unexplainable.
Abortion tourism is a business opportunity.
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@Owen_T
Your definition of body violation is anything that interferes with someone's freewill.So, by your logic, prison is bad for society, since it violates someone's "body rights." Would you agree with that?
Body violation is based upon violating the ownership of a body.
People own their bodies, thus are free to make or reject any changes to their bodies.
Violating body means to make changes to another person's body without agreement, to use another person's body without agreement, any type of force which is done to individual's body. It is usually understood through way society would work if all individuals respected body rights. No one would forcefully hit anyone, no one would force anyone to do anything, no one would limit movement of another...
People in prison are often those who have violated someone's body. Once person violates a body of another, same can be done to that person.
Prisons are a waste of money, since there are more effective and cheaper punishments for crimes.
what are your views on abortion
I personally oppose to abortion, especially late term abortion. I know that woman's body belongs to a woman, but its just such a disgusting practice especially given that in most cases, woman chooses to have sex.
107 days later
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@Owen_T
I think the 10 Commandments would be better off in Religious affiliated schools.
Though I wouldn't be bothered by the history class discussing the 10 Commandments place in American or World history.
. . .
On another hand,
"In the colonial and present-day US state of Louisiana, Christianity grew to become its most predominant religion, representing 84% of the adult population in 2014 and 76.5% in 2020"
'IF this law came from and was voted in by the voters, I lean a 'bit more towards it,
But Public Schools, isn't there some sort of separation of church and state?
Course despite those ambiguous words, religion 'does course throughout American government anyway.
People swearing on Bible for court or office, or Qurans,
"In mid-November 2006, it was reported that Keith Ellison, the first Muslim ever elected to the United States Congress, would take his oath of office (as a representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district) with his hand on the Qur'an."
or "Some modern-day political leaders have also declined to use Bibles and have been sworn in on copies of the Constitution, law books or other tomes, both religious and non-religious."
But I'm getting off track.
Separation of Church and State,
I am unsure if this means 'Federal and/or 'State,
Yeah, it 'says Church and 'State, but words can be deceiving in meaning,
Try to convince people that the American States were sovereign nations/states at the time of the Civil War, they'll disagree,
Or claim that their 'current idea of the word makes more sense than people back when the word was first drafted,
Despite State rights being so large, and probably including religion a ton, therefore clearly not having the same view of it as some modern people talking about Church and State,
But eh, I'm rambling.
I think the 10 Commandments would be better off in Private Schools, voted into being there by the local community, paid for by the local community,
I think 'more Private establishments should exist, and that communities enforce their beliefs in their own backyards, rather than being told by the Federal Government what to do,
So long as their beliefs don't stray 'too far from my own.
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@Owen_T
I think it would be funny if they added the ten commandments ontop of the racial pride flag and put that in classrooms (because they already put the racial pride flag in classroom, there are photos).Louisiana now requires the ten commandments on a small poster in each classroom. What do you all think about this?
That way you can get all the religion out of the way with a single print job.
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@Owen_T
Rocky and Bullwinkle > Aseop Fables > Moral of the story > No Biblical references needed
1} protect protect self, .... * i *..... i = Meta-space based ego that involves mental stability/integrity
2} protect family ..... klan/tribes/community/humanity......
3} protect property .... ecological systems that sustain life on Earth
4} Logic ..sequence of events--......Meta-space based following the bouncing ball....
5} Common sense --intuitive, instincts based on experience---...Meta-space in relation to occupied space time, as consciousness...,
6} Critical Thinking --- occupied space consciousness ergo time based access to Meta-space based omni-consideration, understanding and comprehension of the above 1 and 2, ergo:
7} seeking of resultant relative truths,
8} seeking of resultant absolute truths,
9} resultant recognition of the false narrative,
10} <..... infinite space - finite occupied >(*time*) i (*time*)< finite occupied - space infinite >............
Hm, reading more,
"Separation of church and state" is a metaphor paraphrased from Thomas Jefferson and used by others in discussions of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Well, state government isn't 'Congress.
"In keeping with the lack of an established state religion in the United States, unlike in many European nations at the time, Article Six of the United States Constitution specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States",
In 1961, the Supreme Court ruled in Torcaso v. Watkins that a person could not be denied the office of notary public for not being a believer because it "unconstitutionally invades his freedom of belief and religion guaranteed by the First Amendment and protected by the Fourteenth Amendment from infringement by the States."
But 1961 is a long way from 1776,
And yet seven of the states mentioned in the post have language in their constitutions explicitly prohibiting atheists from holding office. Mississippi’s constitution, for example, states that "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state." In Pennsylvania, the eighth state noted in the post, the rule is not as clear cut.
Thomas Jefferson was not the 'sole definer of what people wanted of their government, or considered the law to be.
"In contrast to this emphasis on separation, the Supreme Court in Zorach v. Clauson (1952) upheld accommodationism, holding that the nation's "institutions presuppose a Supreme Being" and governmental recognition of God does not constitute the establishment of a state church the Constitution's authors intended to prohibit.[3][4]"
There are many other examples on Wikipedia,
But I'm just skimming,
At a skim though, it 'looks to me that a state 'can according to the Constitution, have the 10 Amendments in a school,
Or the Satanist 10 Commandments, if they had enough public and government official support.
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@Lemming
A Zedku for Lemming.
Two steps forwards and one step back.
Clever stupid gene.
And data transfer is what it is,
And a life is but a universal micro second.
A thousand years from now, Earthlings may well have colonised Mars,
And will probably be fighting over it.
And those that were suppressed, will continue to harp on about their indigenous Martian heritage and some GOD or another.
And others will be thinking about where to go next and how to get there.
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@zedvictor4
Two steps forwards and one step back.
Life is a dance of sex and inter-sex, state and religion, female cloning and no male cloning.
Spin your partners as we orbit around, twist your partner as we hop around the grounds.
One step forward two steps back, election day is coming, better watch our backs.
The Supreme sacred mountain blows its top, lava flows to the sea, it will not stop.
Hush my darling, hush my friends, think about the words, before you pray.
Zealot parent: What did you learn today Timmy?
Timmy: I learnt the word pantheon!
Zealot parent: What’s that?
Timmy. My teacher is teaching us about the 10 Commandments. We started with the first one today.
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@ebuc
Nice Ebucku.
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@zedvictor4
Nice Ebucku.
From the top of me head, Zedku, a spontaneous combustion, with not much logical, common sense crtitical thinking applied.
..< .macro......................space( * time *) i ( * time * )space....................macro >
The absolute commandments are the inviolate eternal physical laws and principles.
The relative commandments are those applied by various human families/tribes/cultures/communities.
The Bible itself attests that indeed God wrote the Ten Commandments. The Book of Exodus, Chapter 31, verses 18 and 32:16, states that God wrote the commandments on tablets of stone with His own finger. Additionally, in Deuteronomy 4:13, it is stated that God "declared to you his covenant, which he commanded you to. That was before he was sent to God Prison.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Exactly, the religion of races and Christianity all rolled into one....wasn't there a group formed around that idea around 1865?
Exodus 20:14 gives us the seventh commandment: “You shall not commit adultery.” The command to refrain from adulterous relationships is foundational to the well ordering of the marriage bond and the promotion of intimacy between husband and wife.
LOL, Trump and Stormy