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If the last US election has been any indicator, pundits and politicians seem to be convinced that the winning strategy is to come up with a "coalition" of voters from different race/gender groups. Much attention gets paid to who is winning what demographic. But for all the talk about race and gender divisions, I have to wonder how useful it really is for campaigning. For example, if you know your campaign is behind on "black men," and you want to appeal to them, you have to assume you know what it is black men want. And if you did know that, you probably wouldn't be losing that demographic in the first place. Then if you try to appeal to black men, you have to make sure you're not losing other demographics, which is a never-ending whack-a-mole of appealing to different groups.
It seems to me that a better approach would just be to look at what swing voters or likely voters in general want. Ideally, you could appeal to all of them at once. It doesn't matter if your coalition is 20-year-old Latino men or 80-year-old Jewish women, because at the end of the day, all that really matters is having the most electoral votes. Knowing that some ad increases your support among swing voters seems much more useful than knowing it increases your support among white women or Chinese men. It also doesn't seem like a good thing that politicians care more about appealing to one demographic rather than pursuing what's best for the country as a whole...but I suppose that's the temptation of cross-tabs.
Politicians keep doing it, so they must have something telling them it's a good strategy, but if the last presidential election was any indicator, political advocates are at their worst when trying to appeal to a specific race or gender. "Real men for Harris" was endlessly mocked, and Trump saying he would "protect women" did him little favors, even if he did end up winning the overall election. The Democrats were convinced that a bunch of white women secretly wanted to vote for Kamala but didn't realize they could vote anonymously....why they believed this, I have no idea. What's good for the goose is usually good for the gander, and one might wonder if talking points that only appeal to one group are even worthwhile policies to pursue.
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What are you going to do to support the president?
Will you continue to ridicule or stand behind the president?
What are the numbers anyway?
78 percent right now.
What do you predict in the next four years regarding:
1. Crime
2. Taxes
3. Unemployment
4. Healthcare
5. Border wall protection
6. Project 25 so called
7. Area 51
8. Over seas wars
9. Critical race theory
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As far as the swing states are concerned Trump has Nevada, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina in the bag.
This puts Trump at 268 points. That's his minimum.
Kamala needs to win Michagin, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. If Kamala wins it's because she swept those 3 states. I just don't see it happening and Trump could potentially flip Virginia here making her path much harder, but these 3 states are what you need to look at on election night.
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Maricopa county officials said to get rid of the ideal of election night and that they will be taking up to 2 weeks to report their vote.
This is a blatant attempt to wait until after republican districts vote so they know how much to rig the vote by. The only solution is for republican areas to hold off on counting their votes until Maricopa has counted theirs to deny them the ability of knowing how much they need to rig the vote by
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WyIted did this kind of thing for the last one, but since he’s not here anymore, I figured it might be fun for me to try it.
I’ll be watching most of it, but I might have to break in the middle for dinner.
If anyone else wants to watch it live, you can use this thread to talk about it. I’ll try to post a few times throughout.
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This may sound like old news, but given the current context in which liberals can't get Trump out of the elections, do you think liberals are capable of doing what the title of this thread says?
Remember that in the US history there have been several political assasinations, even to a president (JFK), so many people think Trump's time has come. Personally, I think it doesn't make sense because democrats will lose anyway whether Trump is in the election or not. However, there is a renowned prophecy circulating on the internet that speaks of the assasination of an important american politician that the prophecy calls "the orchestra man", so people think Trump is "the orchestra man".
What do you think?
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It looks like more and more people are raising the alarm about the election fraud in the 2020 election.
Big names complicit in the fraud are trying to stop audits of the vote, trying to stop an investigation or audit is as good as a confession in my book btw, honest people want to be investigated and cleared.
I doubt the election will be overturned, but the more and more time passes, the more evidence of fraud surfaced.
It looks like the capital hill ruoters may actually have in fact been heroes trying to preserve the integrity of the election.
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DebateArt is a website where people can argue and create
But lately people have started to evacuate
The election was a sham, a mockery of democracy
He bribed the voters with his money and hypocrisy
And now the president of the website is lazy and aloof
He does not listen to the feedback or any proof
That his website is failing and needs his care to revive
Or it will reach its bitter end and cease to be alive
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The midterms are today. Go vote, then come here and post all your darkest fears, then watch the results come in, then cry hysterically about America's future. Ready? Here we go!
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According to reports, a man from Florida painted himself orange and announced his candidacy for President. He said in his speech, “Not many people know this, but I have been President before. I did a great job, really tremendous. Some say the best ever, better than Lincoln. I don’t know, but they say that, lots of people say it.” Many witnesses to the event asked him why he chose to paint himself orange. According to the Florida man himself, “Why do you hate orange? Orange is a great color. Sad!” After his announcement, a loud yawn of boredom was heard across the nation. “Again? I’m so tired of this guy already,” said one American, who looked suspiciously like an antediluvian turtle with a cocaine habit.
Many people are skeptical of the Florida man’s chances of victory, given his previous record. When asked for comment, he replied, “A lot of people keep saying that I lost the last election. Wrong! That’s fake news! That was a guy from New York. That wasn’t me. I don’t know him, but I heard he is a terrible guy, a big loser.” For some reason the news is also reporting on the reaction of a random old white guy who was found wandering around aimlessly. According to Mr. Random Wanderer, “What, who? Is that Corn Pop? Malarkey! Let me at him!”
Another Florida man was seen in the area of the incident with a massive grin on his face, but he quickly left to deal with Hurricane Libtears, which suddenly appeared as a result of the orange Florida Man’s announcement.
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It has been an interesting couple of weeks, and I've enjoyed the campaign and especially talking with old and new friends.
To my supporters, thank you for your support, we now have a lot of work to do, and I will now need your support more than ever.
To every member of DART, thank you for your contributions to this community and website. If you aren't a supporter of mine, don't know who I am, or are simply indifferent, I hope that I can still make you proud by my efforts this year. If you have any interest at all in contributing to this goal in a specific role, let me know, I'm sure I can use your services. If not, then just keep being the great contributor to DART that you are, and know that it is appreciated.
Over the coming days I plan to get started with my goals, and I'll do my best to share the details of each step as we move forward. I'm going to need help from the community, so please don't be shy to reach out to me directly, or to express your interest publicly. I will soon be making threads asking for specific help in specific areas, with particular members volunteering to be dedicated to particular needs, so keep an eye out for that. I believe that some of this will be quite challenging, but is going to be very fun every step of the way, and it's going to be even more exciting, and even more fun, if we do this together as a community. So share your interests with me, share your feedback, and please know that I appreciate every offer of help that I receive. Your passion for debate and this community can surely be utilized to the betterment of everyone, and I'm super excited to get started and use the talents and enthusiasm of everyone that wants to be involved.
So Join Me, and Let's Do This DART!
I'd like to congratulate Thett3 on being elected VP. While Thett may be joking, and simply assumes that I'll ignore this development as I may have a few times on DDO, he shall have no such luck this time. As far as I am concerned, Thett is my duly appointed VP, and shall take all responsibilities of that role. While that may mostly be ceremonial, it should be known by all of DART, that as an official statement, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, that I name Thett as my VP, and should something prevent me from completing my duties as president before the next election (assassination, internet ban, baby mama drama etc), and should a special election be required, that I, President Airmax of DART, fully endorse Thett for this office.
Now, I realize that VP is only responsible for two things: A) Parroting whatever I say in public, and B) Secretly forming a coalition of discontented revolutionaries to undermine me politically, and I do imagine Thett will do either of these things to whatever degree he is comfortable, I do fully view him as my endorsed replacement should that be necessary, and more importantly, I expect him to work hard with me for the betterment of the community. Good Luck Thett, Congratulations, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Thanks again to everyone who voted. Even if you didn't vote for me I still appreciate your interest in the site, and I am still going to do my best to convince you that I deserved your vote. I hope you will share your interest with me, so that I can have goals that appeal to every single person here. To those that are skeptical, I understand, and I hope to change your mind in the coming days, weeks and months. I hope we can work together regardless of our differences, and form a team that can't fail in making DART even better.
With all that said, if you have any questions at all, about anything at all, please feel free to ASK ME ANYTHING.
Thank you so much DART, it means a lot to me to have your support,
Your humble President,
-Airmax1227
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I'm not sure what is allowed or how much I'm supposed to say in these nominations, but I'd like to nominate 3RU7AL for DebateArt President. I've spoken with and informed 3RU7AL of my intentions to throw his hat in this race. And to be frank, I normally wouldn't get involved in these sort of procedures as it relates to site management, but I sincerely couldn't imagine a better candidate for the job. 3RU7AL has actively tried to make this forum a better place whether it be his suggestions on the modification of voting rules, his suggestions on Civil Debates, but most prominently the example he sets through his own decorum, which have not only garnered my respect but that of many others. Not to mention, 3RU7AL has experience with site administration. 3RU7AL would be the only candidate (currently?) whose intentions with the office wouldn't be a residual of an effort to "seek authority" after failed attempts, or an expression of some nihilistic fervor to watch the site's rules burn. 3RU7AL in his time here has unfailingly shown respect not only to this site's moderation staff, but also to this site's members. And even when there's a disagreement with some of the measures taken by the moderation, 3RU7AL seeks an open forum to discuss them, not just poo-pooing on their authority. If the DebateArt Presidency is meant to be a serious position, then DebateArt could do no better than 3RU7AL.
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This is not a joke. Colorado thinks elections will be more secure if we never check to see if they are secure. https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1624058757958m.jpg
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People were asking for some evidence of election fraud last thread. Democrats in the media were claiming that fraud was impossible, because their was no remote access to voting machines. Well now it looks like their was remote access and breaches. These breaches should if we lived in a law and order society decertify the election
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The first votes are being counted. Now we will see if the polls are right or the silent majority materializes.
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I've been thinking about making this topic for a while, but I never had the time or the words. Thankfully, Dan McClaughlin had both. So here is the conservative case against voting for Trump (though not for Biden).
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Disclaimer: This is purely for entertainment. It is not intended to parody any specific person, nor is it intended to be an accurate representation of any political movements mentioned in it. I am entirely aware that no one actually thinks like this (I hope, anyway). I wonder whether anyone actually reads these copy-pasted disclaimers. This is completely satirical. None of the below content necessarily reflects my own opinions and beliefs.
Editor's Note: We are just twelve days out from the 2020 presidential election, and debate rages over who will win. By all appearances, we are on our way to a record turnout. If you're looking for clarity in these confusing times, then I have some good news for you: the Bard's experts have gathered together to give informed predictions about the election outcome. Without further ado, we will move on to their predictions.
Trum Porter: After the 2016 election, we all learned how inaccurate the polls are. Throughout the last four years, the media has spewed nonstop hate of the president. People know this, and they aren't going to tell pollsters from the fake news media that they're voting for Trump. The silent majority is out there in every state of the nation. It's going to be a fifty-state sweep for the president. The Republicans will sweep both houses of Congress and ensure that the best president in history will have as many terms as he needs to keep America great! The libs will be so triggered and run to their safe spaces while TRUE PATRIOTS laugh at their tears! MAGA!
Environmental Wacko: The polls were accurate in 2016, and they're accurate now. Trump will lose in a landslide, and all those racist Nazis who voted for him will be put in their place. It'll be so-o-o sweet to watch the conservative snowflakes cry. Hate will never win! Harris 2021! Er, I mean Biden/Harris 2020!
ScumAnonymous: Look, fellers, we all know how this is going to go down. Everyone's gonna be sitting on the edge of their seats on election night, but they ain't gonna get results. They won't get results the next day either. No way, pal. The election officials ain't gonna finish counting those early ballots for weeks. And when they do, a whole lotta swing states are gonna be real close. And then, pal, then the recounts begin. Both sides will accuse the other of cheating, and just before they start shootin', the results are gonna come back, and it'll be 269-269. At that point, it ain't gonna matter who wins. It'll all end in flames. And how do I know? Because 2020, pal, because 2020.
Carl Engels: An old, rich, corrupt, bourgeoisie member of the elite will win. He will trod all over the proletariat as they suffer. Which one? It doesn't matter. The bourgeoisie will laugh either way, safe in their positions of power. When the great revolution begins, they will know the feeling of a boot stamping on a human face, forever.
Conspi Theo: Does it really matter which lizard person wins? They're both part of "them". They're out to get you. I just saw a YouTube video that exposed their Satanic plot. Whichever one wins will shapeshift into the antichrist! We will see the establishment of the New World Order, Babylon the Great! The guy in the video also discovered why the Illuminati launched the plandemic. They needed to keep us all inside so we wouldn't see them send rockets to the moon to plant evidence that they really landed on the moon. Someone was about to figure it out, so they had to maintain the hoax! "They" are lying to you!
Editor's Note: If any of these predictions are wrong, the guy who made the YouTube video reserves the right to retain full prophetic credibility for any future predictions.
Grandpa Curmudgeon: Back in my day, America was already great. Didn't have none of these cheesy slogans. No sir, we had distinguished, sophisticated platforms like "I like Ike." Politicians didn't say the dumbest things you ever heard every time they opened their mouths. Leastways, if they did, we didn't have no internet media telling us about it. Well, that's why Trump should win, cause he wants to make us great agin. But that's also why he ain't gonna win, cuz all you young rips don't know what greatness looked like. Look, boy, you wouldn't know greatness if it hit you like a brick. You spend your days with your eyes glued to yer phones. If you'd look up for two seconds and read a book, you'd know that socialism ain't never gonna work. But no, you all gonna vote for Sleepy Joe. Well, when I was yer age...
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