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I was talking to airmax recently and was wondering why he failed to fulfill his duties as president. He personally told me to send this message to you guys, and sorry I am logging back on. I really am leaving permanently but so many members are reaching out to me and pouring out their feelings to me.
Dear DebateArt.com community,
It is with a heavy heart that I write this message to announce my departure from this once-thriving intellectual platform. Today, I, airmax1227, join what is being called "The OG Exodus" as a response to the rampant antisemitism that has plagued our community.
When I initially joined DebateArt.com, I was filled with hope and excitement to engage in stimulating debates, expand my knowledge, and connect with a diverse range of individuals. I believed that this platform fostered an environment of inclusivity and respect, where intellectual growth could flourish. Regrettably, recent events have shattered that illusion, exposing a distressing undercurrent of antisemitic sentiment.
Antisemitism, in its many forms, has no place in civil discourse or any aspect of our society. Yet, it has become alarmingly pervasive within our community, permeating conversations, threads, and interactions. From subtle microaggressions to outright hate speech, the presence of antisemitism has tarnished the very fabric of DebateArt.com.
As a Jewish individual, I have personally borne witness to and experienced the effects of this bigotry. The derogatory remarks, offensive stereotypes, and discriminatory behavior have left me disheartened and disillusioned. It is dispiriting to see a platform that was once a beacon of intellectual exchange succumb to such toxic and hateful rhetoric.
The decision to join the OG Exodus was not an easy one, but it is a necessary step to combat the prevalence of antisemitism and push for change within this community. The movement represents a collective effort by individuals who refuse to accept this status quo and strive for an inclusive and tolerant platform.
DebateArt.com was intended to be a space where ideas could be shared, perspectives could be challenged, and respectful dialogue could flourish. Unfortunately, the unchecked antisemitism has eroded these principles, stifling free expression and perpetuating harmful stereotypes. By standing together in the OG Exodus, we hope to shed light on this issue and implore the administration and the community as a whole to take action.
My departure from DebateArt.com should not be seen as an abandonment of intellectual discourse, but rather a strategic decision to seek out platforms that prioritize inclusivity, respect, and empathy. I yearn for a community where diversity is celebrated, and all members are valued for their contributions, regardless of their religious or cultural backgrounds.
To those who have engaged in meaningful discussions and fostered an environment of acceptance and understanding, I express my gratitude. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed. However, it is essential to recognize that change must come from within the community as a whole. It is imperative to address antisemitism directly, challenge harmful narratives, and create a safe space for all individuals to participate and grow.
I hope that DebateArt.com will heed our concerns and take significant steps to eradicate antisemitism from its ranks. It is my fervent wish that this platform can regain its former glory and become a beacon of intellectual discourse where bigotry has no place.
Thank you to all those who have contributed positively to my journey on DebateArt.com. I cherish the friendships and connections I have made here and look forward to continuing intellectual pursuits in spaces that embrace diversity, inclusivity, and the values that define a truly vibrant community.
With heartfelt hopes for positive change,
airmax1227
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Feel free to listen to this theme tune as you indulge:
I am so sorry for the dull travesty that was Airmax. Let us all take a small moment to bow our heads and mourn how stupid any of us were to consider this corrupt mod out of the shadows that said 'vote me or I ditch you guys'.
Thank you for that moment. Now, is my turn to say sorry for more.
I am sorry DART, I was not the sexy beast the first time around, I was a beta bitch that got toyed with and tossed by Lunatic, Wylted and many others but those 2 spearheaded it from different angles/agendas.
It is time to tell you what the past year taught me and what I have tried to exemplify:
- I was an idiot to not accept that freedom of speech is important on a website like this. Of course it is, this is the place where the biggest sins should be doxxing or genuine horrific severity to levels we must censor. I did think that part already but I also implied some things that I've changed on. If we cannot harden our metal against pro-scummy ideas (I mean really scummy), we are weak and I see that what people attracted to this place are is unwilling to stay mentally weak. That's where I went wrong, no more pandering to the pansies, if you're in a bad place mentally get the help you need that's alright.
- I was wrong that the mods need much balancing. They don't. Whiteflame is actually very evenhanded and under him, other than a random outburst about 'vote corruption' on a debate where I got threatened and a little drama only he and I and the mods know about when I thought he tried to trick me into getting banned, I like the guy's quiet style of moderation.
- I don't think Supadudz is that wise or fit to lead the website in the position he is in. I think honestly I am one of the best contenders here to hold my own against the mods, I think I am now at a much better stage in my relationship with whiteflame and barney at the very least to see eye to eye on matters and talk them down on others and reason with users.
- I have learned that I don't care if lose.
I don't care if 3Ru7AL runs against me or not. I was going to campaign harder against that user but I will let the posts, activity level and whatever else speak for themselves.
I want the president position for the following agenda and reasons:
- Given my shaky history with previous mods, I am not exactly capable of ever setting foot into the mod realm here or being officially anything. I will always be seen as a flight risk and I am, I speak my mind, I am not super tame and that's fine. I want to prove in an actual official capacity (not even been allowed to be a vote mod or forum mod simple low level, despite asking) so I want to be President as a leg-up. You can cringe at this and say 'yeah put that on your resume' but this website and what it stands for is important to me. I literally want to guide online debating as a passion and whatever else if I can. People are so fucking weak, they stick to those that agree to them and like it, that's fine but it's not where people like us can last. We get pushed aside, alienated and having muzzles on our faces. I want to help you breathe free with me. I want to let the troll in you, the madman/madwoman in each of us to meet the rational scientist and yin-yang ourbrains in a way few activities and hobbies other than debating and reasoning itself can do.
- Aside from a passionate urge to finally become something special here, I currently have a problem. All new members get to interact with me ASAP (for better or worse). I make sure of it. I doubt most of the noobs know who the hell ilikepie or 3ru7al are and there's a reason for that. I am unique, I have an edge and despite being an introvert, I have a way of making everyone in every avenue here notice me and exchange words and thoughts. Yet, when one is in conflict, when one wants to know the rules, they naturally at always led to the mods. If you didn't know, lazy ass Airmax was supposed to be the liaison, the ambassador of even the mods themselves to the people. The President is meant to be that smiley face who can turn grim just as easily to the mods as to a toxic user and discipline both. If anybody here denies I am the most fit person here to be that guy, they are delusional and deserve an Airmaxv2.
- I am experienced in all areas of the website. Literally look at the stats on the leaderboard, not just Rating. There is no way other than nepotism and double-standard BS to say I am unworthy to be the gel of the website at least for a year (it actually is a 2-year limit, not 1-year Airmax was just disqualified for being so inept and such).
- I love this website's concept. I don't care about DART, I sure as hell didn't care about DDO. I am not here to shake hands with Mike that's lost faith with it. I want to be in that special Discord with the mods and lead the forge onwards if things go wrong. I am so not here to dig into the past of DDO, Lunatic forced that last time and I took it hook line and sinker, in fact another member brought it up before that. I am saying, my agenda is very simple; online debating gang above all else, my heart belongs to this like a fucking partial meaning of life. There is something about the idea of this actually succeeding, growing and not having any doxxing, cancel culture and that part of sites like Reddit and Quora hitting us that delights me... What if... It could get medium instead of tiny and avoid that drama fest? We will never know. I want to be the asshole, egotistical and mad as I am, to be officially instated as something so when/if things go to shit, I am there with Barney, Whiteflame, Oro and whoever else thinks I'm a loose cannoned fool to ride it out with them. Imagine this grows one day? Imagine us keeping this tiny joke of a fire burning actually becomes a fucking fiesta?
I never cared about DDO but I miss it too... The activity level, the way you could debate so hardcore and know votes would turn up, at least 2 solid tries if you campaigned for it... That was the shit you guys can't fathom... We've lost the magic here, If not for Mike the guy barely interested to be loyal to his promises to revamp and update the site... This would be gone too.
Vote me or throw your vote away, it's that simple.
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This is NOT a callout thread. I am EXPLAINING my stance, this is not a subliminal.
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I want my previous supporters, most of whom are either abstaining or heavily considering to vote 3RU7AL due to familiarity, to stay with me here and understand why I've endorsed Airmax1227. I was not 'played' which may make you think there is some kind of game going on, I want you to all fully understand my stance. Ignore all toxicity towards me, ignore the tone or words (don't have to ignore it but just asking you to for this thread) and pay attention to the situation, the platforms and the agendas at play.
Agendas as RM perceives them
RM - Make the site grow by stopping big bans by more gradual intermediary moderation as well as a general 'clean up the site' approach to induce harmony and repel less users away.
Wylted - Stop RM doing that. Increase freedom, keep the mods in check and push hardcore freedom of speech and expression. Main motive beyond stopping RM is to stop the site dying.
3RU7AL - Push for more quantifiable rules, apply them uniform.
Airmax - Don't give much of a damn clarifying stance on moderation, push for the site to grow incredibly much but only if he wins.
TheHammer - Oppose Airmax for the luls, hey RM I will vote for you in good faith.
Now, I want you to watch something that happens when we analyse these agendas.
There are 3 users trying to stop the site dying:
RM, Wylted and Airmax and based on prior track record from years ago I can tell you that Airmax is equipped to stop a dying debate website from truly dwindling, he was overcome by brutal adspam and lack of admin access to the website. At least that's my understanding.
There are 2 other users;
3RU7AL and TheHammer.
I don't know a politically correct or polite way to say that TheHammer is running as a joke candidate, your vote to TheHammer will be wasted in my opinion, sorry to say it. I based this both on public and private discourse and a bit of knowledge about the user from the past. If I am wrong and Hammer is sincere then I do apologise.
3RU7AL wants to do something that can't be achieved by a President (make qualitative rules become quantifiable) as this is a moderator-only capacity to change. Furthermore, with regards to pushing for the site's popularity or event, I doubt this user will use their powers at all.
This here is a summary of why I unironically and genuinely dropped out to endorse Airmax1227.
I encourage my previous supporters to see this as a necessary evil (that they are appeasing a user who for all intents and purposes will not help the website nearly as much if he loses the presidency and I would go as far as to say it's out of spite).
I do not like Airmax, I respect his ability to make a site stop dying, specifically a debate website. It's that simple.
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Scumbag traitor, this is a callout thread,
But you're too laissez-faire to lock it like a rasta's dread,
You ditched the debating community as it screamed and fled,
Don't let your president position get too far into your head,
You're the one to lead your people but when they're bleeding, you're in bed,
Snake-ass motherfucker, bled populace is shed,
You're quite honestly emotionless, robotic as it gets,
Always out for power, you're a coward with your bets,
Strolling in when the site's at its weakest to make the meekest of threats,
As Ramshutu said, who the fuck is this man to not invest for all the profit that he gets?
You made a mockery of policy, 'gold medal' cheated, you owe so many debts,
Better pay up on your way out or understand a scorned DART never forgets.
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It has been an interesting couple of weeks, and I've enjoyed the campaign and especially talking with old and new friends.
To my supporters, thank you for your support, we now have a lot of work to do, and I will now need your support more than ever.
To every member of DART, thank you for your contributions to this community and website. If you aren't a supporter of mine, don't know who I am, or are simply indifferent, I hope that I can still make you proud by my efforts this year. If you have any interest at all in contributing to this goal in a specific role, let me know, I'm sure I can use your services. If not, then just keep being the great contributor to DART that you are, and know that it is appreciated.
Over the coming days I plan to get started with my goals, and I'll do my best to share the details of each step as we move forward. I'm going to need help from the community, so please don't be shy to reach out to me directly, or to express your interest publicly. I will soon be making threads asking for specific help in specific areas, with particular members volunteering to be dedicated to particular needs, so keep an eye out for that. I believe that some of this will be quite challenging, but is going to be very fun every step of the way, and it's going to be even more exciting, and even more fun, if we do this together as a community. So share your interests with me, share your feedback, and please know that I appreciate every offer of help that I receive. Your passion for debate and this community can surely be utilized to the betterment of everyone, and I'm super excited to get started and use the talents and enthusiasm of everyone that wants to be involved.
So Join Me, and Let's Do This DART!
I'd like to congratulate Thett3 on being elected VP. While Thett may be joking, and simply assumes that I'll ignore this development as I may have a few times on DDO, he shall have no such luck this time. As far as I am concerned, Thett is my duly appointed VP, and shall take all responsibilities of that role. While that may mostly be ceremonial, it should be known by all of DART, that as an official statement, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, that I name Thett as my VP, and should something prevent me from completing my duties as president before the next election (assassination, internet ban, baby mama drama etc), and should a special election be required, that I, President Airmax of DART, fully endorse Thett for this office.
Now, I realize that VP is only responsible for two things: A) Parroting whatever I say in public, and B) Secretly forming a coalition of discontented revolutionaries to undermine me politically, and I do imagine Thett will do either of these things to whatever degree he is comfortable, I do fully view him as my endorsed replacement should that be necessary, and more importantly, I expect him to work hard with me for the betterment of the community. Good Luck Thett, Congratulations, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Thanks again to everyone who voted. Even if you didn't vote for me I still appreciate your interest in the site, and I am still going to do my best to convince you that I deserved your vote. I hope you will share your interest with me, so that I can have goals that appeal to every single person here. To those that are skeptical, I understand, and I hope to change your mind in the coming days, weeks and months. I hope we can work together regardless of our differences, and form a team that can't fail in making DART even better.
With all that said, if you have any questions at all, about anything at all, please feel free to ASK ME ANYTHING.
Thank you so much DART, it means a lot to me to have your support,
Your humble President,
-Airmax1227
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This user signed up January 16th and will be voting Airmax. I do not 100% know it but I can guess very effectively due to kfc image and you will fine that quite a few more accounts like this:
and others, which I won't reveal or specify yet so they are not sure what I have kept track or or am onto, are going to fradulently ruin the election by voting Airmax by signing up last minute.
On DMs, whiteflame told me this about Airmax's side doing it:
"As long as they're actual individuals and not instances of multi-accounting, they have the right to vote."
This is 100% in-context, on this topic, if need by I will screenshot.
On DMs, supadudz then warned me this:
"Just gonna let you know now if you are planning to recruit people from other sites to vote for Max, that's a violation of the rules and will get 3RU7AL disqualified"
This is sheer corruption and double-standard to the highest degree.
Do not worry though, I am not some dumb fool. I would never say shit as a candidate doing any of this and am aware both candidates are smart enough not to either. The question is about standards and fair play.
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If you are voting Airmax and want an Axolotl profile pic, answer the following:
- Why Airmax?
- What kind of image do you want?
- What vibe?
- Cartoony or Realistic?
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I drop out, officially.
I endorse Airmax1227, semi-regrettably and want to say the full reasoning why you (my solid support base) and even you (my extended support base who are bit 'maybe, maybe not') should vote Airmax1227 this election.
The President role really is useful for 2 things:
- Stopping mod abuse
- Officially holding site events
At first, I was really skeptical about his return, why did he come back now right? Just to win?
And yeah, if you ask me he kind of did, he has a 'thing' for being in power on an Internet Fiefdom perhaps.
Then, I ask myself what happens if he gets into the President's seat? Honestly, it doesn't matter to me that he's there, the President has only 2 functions and I feel he'd do function 2 with events quite well given his latest promises in the thread he just made.
So, I am left wondering now, what good would happen if I won? The DDO guys will get upset, leave and say 'fuck you RM'. How does that benefit the website? The whole reason I ran was to make it alive. The reason I think it's dead is that so many threads and posts are so toxic and undermoderated that it becomes a horrible wasteland appearing unpleasant for others to join but if Airmax can counteract that by spreading awareness of this website far and wide, then I'm all for it.
The only thing I don't get is why he never did that for the past 3.5 years, why did he ditch us until power came his way like blood to a shark's nose?
If you ask me, there is a blatant power thing for him, even an ego thing and if you properly read the fine-print in the Presidency even though it says 'more than 1 successful term' it's actually 2-term limit, not a 1-term limit because that's a criteria stopping you running for site president, not a criteria overall (so 1+1 = 2 duh) and we're looking at 2-year President here.
I need to accept the reality that my supporters do like me, I chatted with a few of them privately about me dropping out and they were disheartened. It wasn't campaigning, I didn't break a rule, it was a genuine question. I will like to say that 3RU7AL doesn't deserve to win a Presidency election against either myself or Airmax1227, it's not a position for someone as socially uninvolved as them (profile doesn't specify gender, so using 'them' pronoun). 3RU7AL is a fine user of the website but wouldn't properly do either function, especially not function 2.
To my supporters, I want you to know that I have remembered all of you, by username. I know you would have stuck by me through to my defeat or victory and I owe you even though I dropped out.
To name the ones that I mean:
Oromagi, Zedvictor4, Intelligence_06, Outplayz, Polytheist-Witch, Lunar108, FLRW and I kind of presume Reece101 was a supporter as well.
If I left your name out, I totally get if you're offended and am truly sorry!
I also appreciate EtrnlVw and Lemming for implied support though it was just asking me about what I'd do or certain things about me, allowing me to further advocate for myself.
I also want to thank IlikePie5 for being an honest opponent who ended up screwed over by several events during this, I'm not going to name names as honestly Airmax himself is to blame for Wylted dropping out, despite Pie having himself dropped out due to Wylted running.
Do not vote Hammer (I frankly think it's a joke campaign) and do not vote 3RU7AL.
Please listen to me, my supporters and vote for Airmax1227. It will be a genuine benefit to the website even if he is a little power-hungry.
Thank you all, this was a wonderful event that made me thrilled and perhaps a little anxious but certainly stimulated throughout.
Yours faithfully
~ex-candidate RM~
Vote Airmax1227
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