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The first Jew was Jacob, he had a twin brother named Esau. Prior to the twin's births God gave a prophecy. The older twin would serve the younger twin and be more prosperous. 

When it came time to give birth Esau came out first, but Jacob was said to grab his heal and pull him back in and then came out prior. That would make Esau technically the oldest though there is an argument for either. 

It should be noted that Jacob means "one who grabs the heal" which at the time was also a phrase to mean deceiver but preachers and rabbis who recite this story either ignore this dual meaning or use some sort of cope. 

Esau was big and hairy, with red hair. He was a strapping young lad who hunted. Jacob was more effeminate and was a Shephard. 

While growing up at one point Esau had come in from a pretty vicious hunt. He was starving to death and in fact if he did not eat soon he would die. Jacob being the piece of shit he is says to his brother "give me your birth right and I will give you some food". Esau knew his birthright was no good if he was dead, so he agreed.

When you hear a rabbi speak of this story they will praise this evil deed as smart on Jacob's part or some other such nonsense. Really this is just some dick head fucking over his brother. 

Anyway more time passes and the father of these young men is about to die. His sight has faded but he pretty much has his wits about him. He knows he is about to die so he sends esau off to hunt and prepare his favorite dish. 

Jacob's mother tells him and decides to help Jacob once again do something really shitty. She covers Jacob with the hair of a wool  so he is hairy like esau and has him prepare dad's favorite dish while Esau is hunting.

Jacob prepares the dish and comes to his father's death bed.

He says "Dad it is me esau with the dish you asked for"

Dad says "is it really you esau? Come closer so I may give you your blessing (inheritance). So Jacob comes closer and his dad feels his skin and feels the sheep skin he strapped to himself and says, "it is the voice of Jacob but the skin of esau" and asks once again "Is it really you Esau?". Jacob again lies and says it is and then the Dad gives Jacob Esau's birth right. 

Pretty shit thing in general. I have a brother so this story hits me in the feels. I could never do that. Anyway sometime later Jacob leaves for a town where his cousin lives so he can marry her. This is because for whatever reason cousin marriage was preferred at the time. He ru s into his father's brother and promises to work for him for 7 years for his youngest daughter. 

After 7 years he has earned the right to marry the youngest girl but the father puts a fast one and swaps her with her much uglier older sister tricking Jacob. A much deserved trick it was. That's karma bitch, but Jacob just works another 7 years and earns the you gest daughter and yadda yadda dad tries to essentially enslave him so he takes off with his brides and the flock he has earned and heads back home.

Jacob being a piece of shit is not over yet. He gets close to home and fears Esau's wrath. So knowing that Esau might be vengeful and want to murder he has the women and children go first. How brave. His brother did not murder his wife and kids so he decided to meet Esau and started begging him.

"Please Esau let me give you my flocks etc."

Esau says "hey brother I love you I am just glad you are back"

As any normal good brother would but eventually after much begging from Jacob Esau did accept some token gifts .

They lived near each other and Jacob and his family grew too big so they expanded and started bumping into a new tribe. This new tribe thought it was a good ideal to make peace with Jacob so they could intermarry and be good neighbors with trade and other things.

Jacob being the piece of shit he is, concocts a plot. 

He tells the other tribe they have a custom that they can only marry other jews and need to be circumcised. These were such good people they quickly converted to Judaism and circumcised themselves. A few days later when all the men were essentially in bed recovering from such a painful thing, Jacob went in there and mass murdered all the males and kept all the women and merchandise for himself 

That's the story of one of the biggest pieces of shits to ever live and Jews think this guy is awesome and a model for all Jews.
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We all know jews try to trick God with things like having an elevator automatically open up on a floor they are heading to as a technicality against breaking a rule or putting a string up outside and then declaring the outside inside. 

At first I thought, these people are assholes, but then a Jewish friend explained it to me this way.


God is an asshole, which is well documented in the old Testament

The asshole requires jews to follow very specific laws

The laws were written by an asshole and thus are not designed to scale easily into new situations.


Jewish religious scholars, therefore, need to figure out actual laws to make sure they don't get fucked over by their asshole god. This process of figuring out if the real laws (in the Talmud) are fulfilling the requirements of The Asshole's laws (in the Torah) is what "pilpul" is

Since their god is a dick the jews only follow the letter of the laws, not the spirit. Why be considerate when your god is the equivalent to the ATF writing bullshit laws to fuck you over?

The silly tricks you see are this, following the letter of the law in a way that still lets jews do the stuff they want to do

I really gotta say that Judiasm makes a lot more sense once you realize that Jews don't actually LIKE their God even though they follow his commandments. It's like if you lived under an oppressive government.  


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So people pretty much fall into 4 categories when it comes to their opinions and since some of you have retarded opinions I thought I would start a thread to allow you to share your opinion and I can tell you if your opinion is retarded. 

Let's limit this to political opinions, but here are the only 4 possible political opinions to have

1. The correct opinion. This is where my opinions are

2. A retarded opinion

3. A wrong but your heart is in the right place opinion

4. A not very practical opinion, slow your fucking roll we can maybe do that later but nobody is in a position to genocide people yet. 

Let's show the 4 opinions with gun laws

1. Correct opinion we should have the right to bear arms

2. Retarded opinion- Let's ban all guns

3. Well meaning and naive- Let's start shoving guns up women's vaginas when they are pregnant and just giving baby's guns in the fucking womb. Yee Haw

4. Slow your roll opinion- every God damn white man should have access to rocket propelled grenades, subsidized by the United States government. 

Share your opinions below
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While studying Islam I ran into his story. Apparently Muhhamed went to the 7th level of heaven and God gave him 50 prayers to give to the Muslims. He went down to the 5th Heaven and told Moses about the 50 prayers. 

Moses convinced him to jew down the number of prayers, so Moses goes back up to the 7 th heaven and jews them down to 40 then back to Moses who said "too many"

This went back and forth several times until Muhhamed with the help of Moses Jewett God down to 5 prayers and then Moses told Muhhamed "Good job" . 

And that is why Muslims pray 5 times a day now.

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For those that don't know;

An 18-mile fishing line connects 1st to 126th street. It’s part of Jewish Sabbath traditions, and the line is called an Eruv roof, which is a symbolic fence and boundary. Jews that observe the laws of the Sabbath are not allowed to carry anything from their private residence out into the public domain on Saturdays. That includes any essentials like a wallet, cellphone, and keys, to name a few. Exodus 16:29 asks Jewish people to stay in to rest on Saturdays. An eruv symbolically extends your private residence into the public domain so you can perform ordinary activities like taking your dog for a walk or carrying your child.


So we have exodus 16:29 that demands that on the sabbath Jews stay in their house and not leave it to rest on Saturdays. They are to stay in their residence as ordered by God. Jews believing they can trick God have created this line to symbolize that their house in fact extends out to the grocery store or a starbucks. This is an attempt to trick God into believing their actual home actually extends to the starbucks across the street, so when they meet God and he says

"Why did you not obey the sabbath like I commanded" The Jewish person will immediately start an argument with God.

"Oy Vey God, but this line makes my house extend down the street to starbucks and so i can leave the house to walk my dog or perhaps Go for a jog"

I have no ideal why they think God will be tricked into thinking the line actually extends their residence or even the inside of their dwellings to also include every house, place of business and street within the lines. Perhaps they convince themselves the Eruv line is their home, despite their property deed disagreeing, but even if they manage to fool themselves they will not fool God.

This is not a one off thing. Jews do other things like put a water bottle under their car seat to fool God into thinking their car is a boat. they typically also argue with God and he punishes them for it. Moses argued with God about the 10 commandments. God wrote the 10 commandments and moses essentially broke them in half and said to God "Your laws are stupid, try again idiot" Moses was fortunately punished for this but it was absurd.

the city of sodom was about to be destroyed and I shit you not Abraham calls God out and even insults him by doing so by attempting to gas light him "Would you actually murder innocent people if they are there God"?

It's none of your business Abraham. It's God if he wants to sweep up the righteous with the evil it is literally none of your business and it is really disrespectful to question a decision God made.

Let's mostly ignore history though and I would like to see some people try and claim the Eruv line is not an attempt to trick God and themselves by trying to reason that fishing line now extends the inside of their house.
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XX

XY

stop. just stop and think, very very hard.

Which is the default you as a creator would generate in chromosomes?

XX same, nothing new needs to be invented, this being can reproduce automatically via its womb or equivalent and needs no additional being to handle its dualistic chromosomal nature.

XY... competes hardcore to get to reproduce with XX, serves to be disposable meatshield during war and at other times puts in the work hunting and gathering. Can't feel orgasm nearly as deep and well as XX can. Organ is blatantly designed for entry to XX's organ but the reverse is not at all the case, it was built around bearing a child and exit strategy.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm

which was made for which?

try detectives, let's get it going!!!!!
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Just curious how the double standard runs exactly, is it that since the parents mutilate the child via a surgeon, it's okay to remove the beautiful foreskin the way that God made it?

This applies to you oddball American Catholics and Protestants who circumcise despite it being a Jewish and Islamic tradition, same with some African Christians and even tribal Pagans that took on the tradition.
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Three corners, all-seeing eye in the middle.

God is the illuminati leader whom is also the devil.

OT God becomes Satan.

Lucifer becomes Jesus, not Satan yet he is Satan via Trinity.

Holy Ghost becomes Allah.

This is how and why there were three iterations. It explains every plothole including the problem of evil since the god has three personalities.
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When horrific acts are done by people who claimed, carried out traditions and see/saw themselves as members of a religion, often what is done by the politically correct media is to sympathise with the religious group and encourage peace by denouncing those people away from being considered genuine members of the religious group.

This goes for literally any incident or scandal you can think of, I am not just talking about the horrific acts that make the headlines.

The reason this strikes me as somewhat worrying is that while this is done, it then begins to highlight a hypocrisy when we see that people can define themselves, readily and happily, as members of religions we sometimes really resent those who do actually do it just to be part of the group. What I am saying is that let's say you're a person who wants to blend in with your very Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Buddhist etc family, if not friendship circle as well, you'd probably just say you're a member of that religion right? As long as you didn't do anything too scandalous or let's say you weren't caught, you'd be deemed a genuine member of that religion and anyone who would say 'wait no, that's just a poser' would instead get the backlash. What, then, actually qualifies someone as a genuine member of the religion?

To make it very clear what I am saying and the contradiction happening, I will explain it as an either/or statement.

Either
The evil people who know their holy scriptures off by heart and understand their religion's history very well are incorrectly being denounced as 'fake Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus etc'
Or
The not-so-evil posers who use religion to either blend in or get some kind of societal privilege are not actually posers, since the only real disqualifying factor appears to be how troublesome it would be to admit you're an adhering member of that religion.

The further thing to ask is whether it's morally correct and appropriate for people to 'raise their child into a religion' when we don't know which religion is the actual true one, right?

The very fact that entire families are commonly all of the same faith, if they're not atheist, isn't a coincidence and it is a reflection on religion being nothing more than a social construct. Even more disturbing is the fact that things like circumcision and animal abuse involved with many Islamic, Satanic and Wiccan sacrificial festivals are actually completely contradictory since we should be disqualifying them as they're justifying mutilation in the name of their religion. We actually did this with Muslims who endorsed (and a select minority still endorse) female circumcision, as well as many other examples such as what Christians used to do to suspected 'witches'. Similarly, Saudi Arabia has recently begun to cave into international pressure to move away from the strictly sexist elements of its Sharia Law, legalising women to drive and compete in the Olympics. Women are made to be pure subjects of men in the Qur'an, although it's true to say that in Islamic history there have been fierce female empresses and in Pakistan and Afghanistan in particular there have been female politicians who actively have been in charge of taming and handling negotiations with the Taliban.

The problem is that I am not exactly saying that it would be politically wise to be honest when a member of a religion does a very evil act. It's a very appropriate lie to suddenly say 'no they are nothing like what our religion stands for and are 100% fake' but that person probably knew more about the religion and lived more devout in terms of the traditions and lifestyle than most posers who call themselves 'casual followers' or 'modern, progressive' variants of their religion. The thing is, at what stage is religion nothing more than a fancy name to associate your 'group' or 'clique' with? What truly qualifies or disqualifies a genuine Muslim for example? It can't just be whether they're evil or not.
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