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The faith of any who believes in Jesus Christ stands not in the wisdom of man, but in the power of God.
No one who is a follower of Jesus Christ will have their faith in Jesus shaken or undone by the logic or cunning or experiences of humanity, nor by strength of reason or philosophy.
but it is tried by life, it is standing firm in the power https://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/1411.htm the miracles, the manifested nature of God's spirit.
faith comes by hearing the word of God https://biblehub.com/text/romans/10-17.htm
faith stands by power/demonstration of God
faith is built up by praying in the Holy ghost. https://biblehub.com/text/jude/1-20.htm
therefore, debate and discussion and arguement should never affect the faith of a true Christian. but with the word of God, our faith comes.
life and its trials will test everyone's faith, to show that it is sure, or if it is false.
1 corinthians 3:10-15 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
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I like the update, reminds me of forums and threads i made. it serves to remind me who the ignorant are (lots) and who is open minded. (hint: less than 8 people)
what are yalls thoughts on it?
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greater than whatever you fill in the blank
you are made to be eternal, to surpass the stars in longevity, you were made to be happier than you are now.
somewhere in your life you short changed yourself by holding on to what you see, by believing this world is all there is and that all that is in it is truth and your purpose.
when you were young, you saw your enviroment and imagined beyond it, you went beyond the place of your dwelling, to the lands beyond it. you looked up into a sky with stars and tried to imagine beyond the pinpoints of light, beyond the moon and the sun. when you learned of space, you wondered beyond it, galaxies, universe, etc. and then you stopped dreaming, you stopped wondering, it mattered less and less because food kept you alive, and stars did nothing but shine. you stopped imaging beyond your life to the lives of others, because you must survive.
is it so hard to imagine life beyond? you arent all knowing, science and astronomers cant find the end of the universe, why do you believe the physical, the visable is worth dying for?
aim beyond this world, aim beyond the stars, beyond yourself. Hope will never make you ashamed, all that seek, find.
whatever you think is best in this life, imagine it better beyond this life. if you love pleasure, is it impossible to know greater and everlasting pleasure?
God is the forger of dreams, he gave you a desire and expectation, but it cant be fulfilled by life on earth, but by being with him.
where you place your treasures; your time, your money, your energy. that is where your heart stays, where your affections are, where you will automatically point yourself toward when things become chaotic.
point them toward eternity, and this world will never crush you. by your right hand you will overcome the world, because your hope and dreams are beyond it.
hope is more real than the world.
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there seems to be some hesitancy on the u.s. part, but the dollar bill will still be used for 2023 and perhaps next year.
what are your thoughts? with cbdc's gaining traction in other nations, is the the future currency of the world? or just a push back against cryptocurrency to destablise the market?
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In the silence his words poured forth
in quietness, assurance stark as the north
"i am here, i will never leave. i will stay
all your hearts desire i will bring someday."
echos resound to the ground as light shines in.
Light of hope a strong rope i cling to within.
the sorrows pass on the eastern wind, the rain like tears falls again.
Tears of joy as the emptiness flies. and smiles appear as sorrow dies.
the cold presses forth upon me like an army.
i move inside slowly as the truth flows through me.
a river of warmth runs through my body and soul. As i step into the lobby and regain control.
each pair of eyes i see, they all seem to have it better than me.
but i know i shall have victory because what i desire makes me free.
love, truth and connection, it cant be bought. above, proof and destination is what i sought.
i am greater than my pain, i shall never know shame. i deny hope of fame, because i know a name.
so the desire burns out like a fire as laughter fills the air, i speak with others and share as much as i dare. in time, i wont care. because destiny's current will place me there at my home with the remnant who valued love above life.
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im going to do a series on will come to pass in less than 30 years. This is not prophecy persay, this is simply my perspective according to what i know, experience and have been told by life and God personally.
feel free to mock, add, correct, question and dismiss.
The society we know it will become more conglomerate, there will be a world union of powers. however the dominion will be a general one, the specifics of country and nation law will become chaotic as principalities and powers that be will govern territorally according to the amount of evil they invoked before hand.
as an example, over the ages the south american powers have been fairly consistent in empowering REBELLION and VIOLENCE both in the nuclear family and to the extent of countries, the powers given dominion over that will have more territory and authority than say the usa whos main powers that be have been broken, but were reinforced for INDIVDUALITY and empowerment via GREED/PRIDE and will be much more fragmented and hold less authority.
when i refer to powers and dominions i am referring to specifically demonic powers. However they will have a figurehead via human representation.
this accumulation of land, people and government by demonic powers will of course be after the saints suddenly die, or the Holy Spirit of God that restraints such powers is lifted off the earth. Then the man of sin shall be revealed.
The true currency of the nations will not be so much determined by food, although resources will always be a necessity, but via desecration of moral and Godly values on a global scale. blashemy and ultimately defacing of God and those who obeyed him will earn more favor among the demonic powers that be, such favor is precarious, especially in territories of BETRAYAL and MADNESS where getting favor might get you food and home, which then is burned down the next day. HOPELESSNESS and DENIAL OF GOD will be penultimate purpose of society, but it will be advertised and propogated as peace and safety. After all LYING is the greatest power of the kingdom to come.
it might be shocking in the years to come how much private influence certain nations will have, but publically wont be mentioned as much. After all, mankind has an inherent morality tied to God and subtility will be needful.
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Ai is becoming more and more realistic. wont be long till streams are AI and not people.
we have over 20 years of media on the internet that is accessible for AI to mimic human behavior and respond in a human-like way. All that needs to be done is develop the tools to make the vessel.
could be a debate topic as well.
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title. what new saying would you come up with?
mine is "gladness loves company"
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How will you greet them?
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icing is better than frosting.
peanuts arent pea sized.
fish don't ing. therefore fishing doesnt exist
terriers rarely tarry
michael vs mikael
people named jim are more reliable than people named bob
the i is in it
naginata vs bisento
will update later... or not.
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the title. i have seen quite a few debates about God and how in debate they approach his existence logically.
one that i enjoyed and found easy to read and understand was between bsh1 and david(virtuoso)
its not perhaps the finest, there are times where a question is begged, but i still enjoy reading it, the broad stroke of arguements and logic combined with the challenge of kritiks never gets old.
what debates do you like and why? feel free to link!
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according to matthew 24:5-8
love God and then he will teach you to love others. love is not an emotion, its a behavior rooted in the Holy Spirit. which is necessary for salvation and can only be given to those who obey God, asking and waiting on it in faith.
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i am looking for contender for a debate on contridiction and How it is needful for change.
i and contender will agree on judge(s) for this debate and the judge(s) will have to comment their method of judging via multiple criterions in comments section once debate starts.
if anyone is intrested please dm me. this debate will mostly be a test, but will operate in good faith.
also, some please post a screenshot and explain multiple criterion options Here. as examples incase any new person wishes to be a judge. Thanks!
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I have recently been playing Torment Tides of numenera. Its an intresting game and kinda categorizes and labels ambitions in a non moral way.
The Tides represent complicated concepts that aren't entirely definable by language. Those who acknowledge the Tides have given them symbolic colors based on how they appear to correspond with emotional and psychological reactions:
- Blue Tide: Represents wisdom, enlightenment, and mysticism. It is the Tide of people whose goal is to expand the mind and the spirit.
- Red Tide: Represents passion, emotion, action, and zeal. It is the Tide of people whose goal is to live in the moment, to experience life to its fullest, or to follow their heart wherever it leads them.
- Indigo Tide: Represents justice, compromise, and the greater good. It is the Tide of people who view life's difficulties from a broad, global perspective rather than an individual one.
- Gold Tide: Represents charity, sacrifice, and empathy. It is the Tide of people whose primary goal is to help others, especially at a cost to themselves.
- Silver Tide: Represents admiration of power and seekers of fame. It is the Tide of people who seek to influence the lives of others or who actively seek to be remembered.
this is just for fun, which tide would you say represents you best?
me, based on my actions i lean towards gold and blue. sometimes a little indigo, but my understanding of morality affects that introspection.
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Been a few years. How is everyone doing? i got an email about dart qualifications and stuff.
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You can report for cross thread or call out if you want. I just want to show ragnar how he Should have done the listings
1. Conducts in regards to trolling
Voting "yes" to this question will add the following rule to coc
- Removal of the trolling and insults rules, but adding a no targeted harassment rule.
2. conduct in regards to mod harrassment.
Voting yes will effect the following rule.
- Removal of the harassing the moderators is ok rule (don’t worry, we’ll still have thick skin).
3. rules to protect children
• Added clauses to protect children.
Full text is available at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DT0dprecA-ehRtRHO4tDPmUZel4hlUrWKdydLbyFlKk/edit?usp=sharing
4. Allow PM sharing with moderator approval?
Voting “yes” would add a clause to the no sharing of Private Messages rule, to allow moderators to grant permission to settle disputes.
Currently there have been outright lies about the contents of PMs, and the victims are without real recourse. This is intended to correct that oversight.
5. Change the Voting Policy to have S&G to include organization
Voting “yes” would amend the Spelling and Grammar in the Voting Policy, to allow consideration of organizational issues, such as a 10,000 character true wall of text (no line breaks) vs a case which is easy to navigate.
Note: This is intended to inform a larger effort to overhaul the voting policies in a similar manner to the CoC.
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I will make a general explanation of why i block people, generally there are 3 reasons.
1: continual disregarding of rules. This can range from constantly going off topic on my threads, to the person doing direct attacks, fighting words or trolling and personal attacks to me, or being done more consistently to others.
2: religious views. This is probably the biggest reason, its not that i hate you or anything, you just simply disregard and/or mock my views of God. If there is a desire for you to learn about God, ill do what i can to help nuture that. But these people simply dont care about God and tend to do DA or PA against me (DA direct attacks, PA personal attacks) or use fighting words.
3: ya ticked me off, i got angry and blocked ya so that i dont make the situation worse. OR we just simply disagree too much.
No call outs and i probably wont respond to anything but direct genuine questions of when and why i blocked ya.
Take care.
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In a fictional world, a race made this contract with "God"
Whereas the "Blank" (hereinafter known as `the Worshippers') wish to establish a long-term relationship with an omnipotent and all-knowing deific entity (hereinafter known as `God' or `god') which shall mutually benefit both parties, the parties agree to abide by the following terms and commitments for the rest of eternity.
The Worshippers hereby promise to perform faithfully and to the best of their ability the following:
- Worshippers shall make regular and sincere obeisance to God, including but not limited to prayer, sacrifice, and the building of large structures.
- Worshippers shall make every attempt to convert non-believers (hereinafter known as `Them') making sure to obtain signed documents from same attesting to said conversion.
- Worshippers shall not enter into an agreement with another deity, without written permission from God.
In consideration of the above correctly performed obeisance, God shall provide:
- Continued existence with little or no modification to the perceived reality of the Worshippers.
- No fewer than 3 miracles (Force Majeure), whose exact nature and timing shall be left to God's sole discretion.
- Worshippers shall enjoy some form of life after death which shall remain a complete and total mystery to the Worshippers until such time as they die.
We, the undersigned, hereby swear to fulfill our obligations as defined above.Signed, "Blank".
(God, being omni-present and all-knowing is considered to have signed this document, by default.)
What are yalls thoughts on this kind of agreement?
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Star control 2 is a computer game made back in 2002. https://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters
Its still playable today! So, starting off. Which race do yall like?
I like the druuge, not because of what they do, but i find their philosophy intresting, like captialism on steroids into a full facism based on wealth and corperations.
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When it comes down to a relationship with another person that you like, what are you looking for?
Do you want a one night stand? A friendship? Friends with benefits? Romance? Marriage?
For me, i want love and affection, where we both desire to please each other and we can talk about anything! (Basically marriage)
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I plan to make this thread to show updates of bills, resolutions and agendas specifically regarding UN. And Congress based on their respective websites.
This can be a conversation or w/e but here are respective websites for time being. We can address w/e as it comes along.
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This is more a thought experiment than an actual discussion. People attribute omnipotence to God and say things like. "He cant make a 4 sided triangle." Or. " he cant make a rock he cant lift."
But really, isnt this silly? All he would have to do is change meaning of tri angle. And make himself weaker. We humans can do this. So why cant God?
Consider calvary. Jesus (who was God in flesh) couldnt carry his cross. Now under the idea of omnipotence, this is impossible. But we forget that power to be weak is also a power. We humans can do something similar.
We can lift weights and over time bench 175 lbs. But if we choose to not exercise or eat right for say, 30 years. We would be so weakened that we cant even get up cause we weigh 400+ pounds. Or the opposite, so fragile and weak, we break bones lifting over 45 lbs.
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This guy made a hand held laser that punches through metal. Who needs light sabers?
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Time, life and other things have caused victory and defeat for most people on here during debates. I ask that mods consider a rule to make forfeits to become unmoderated or not count unless agreed upon or mentioned in comments of debate.
Who on here has seen moderated debates on tv, phones, computer or irl? How often do people get up and leave those debates? Hardly any.
The integrity of the debate is to explain a view and attempt to convience others of it in a formal setting and approach.
Since formality is automatically asserted in debates (unless violates rules, or said other wise) why would we accept someone "leaving" as a formal victory?
de·bate
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- a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
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- argue about (a subject), especially in a formal manner.
Is debateart more about earning points or about truely discussing a topic?
Perhaps deleting all debates where people dont respond instead of awarding points will show who among us can maintain logic, facts and truth of our views while contested.
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If you could change any one person on earth, who would you change and how would you change them?
No direct attacks, personal attacks or cross thread contamination,fighting words, general attacks, or hate speech.
Not a call out thread, please dont tag others unless to conversate with.
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Title. Is calling people a boomer or zoomer insulting?
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With everything thats going on right now, what is your opinion of online education vs classroom or auditorium education?
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Be mindful of spoilers, i think they actually did a good job of showing a progressive character, i dont think what he did regarding romulans is accurate, the picard of TNG would have never done that.
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He just keeps getting sniped for forfeits. Should he be suspended from debating?
Noob-sniping - the act of an experienced or established user deliberately taking on debates with new (often inexperienced users) to inflate their own win/loss record
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Basically title. I have found that many people here have traded one knowledge for another. The goal of every conversation and debate is to express an idea and to agree or disagree with it. When you use words that have subjective meanings or are disputed at best or misdefined at worse, you create chaos. Use simple words, or come together to agree on which meanings are appropriate. If you cannot agree on what words mean, then how can you express your beliefs or the truth to that person? Consider being open to understanding what the other person says. If you dont agree or understand each other, then speak with someone you can understand. Save yourself from needless headaches, let life shape and convience them if you cannot.
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a person said. speaking in tongues is not evidence of salvation
would this be blashemy? i think it is based on mark 16:17.
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melchisedec, King of salem, priest of the most high God, blesser of Abraham and has no beginning of days, foundation of the priesthood of Jesus Christ.
Isaiah 9:6
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name SHALL BE called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
Hebrews 7:1-10
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. 5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. 10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
hebrews 7:14-17
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
So was christ first melchisedec? will he be melchisedec? Etc,
DISCUSSION IS ENCOURAGED, DEBATE IS NOT.
2 Timothy 2:24-25
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
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A faith that is created is often used for mental sense of security and hope in something better, or is something to help a person feel empowered through their works, beliefs and their attitude toward the world.
However, faith was never meant to stand on just an idea, what is needed is something applicable to a real life. So what is more powerful to a person than something actually happening in real life when it agrees with their faith? Nothing, many people die for faith that truely affects their reality.
To say that you have seen people who were blind suddenly receive sight is almost laughed at as evidence to others, and highly discredited when on video/audio. But when it has happened to you, then you know that the power at work is the thing responsible, not just a presupposed idea.
So, what then actually affects real life? Well, if we look at religions across the world, almost every founder or instigator was inspired by knowledge they found or took from a strange being, book or writings/drawings. maybe even idols. Some have had direct experience with deities and have documented and eye witness account of what happened to them or what they were able to do. Witchcraft has power for example, but when compared to say the torah from jewish writings, they declare the power to be demonic or under the influence of a god, (demon)
Okay, so we have established that basically the greatest power wins right? the one who is able to do anything and everything they want without regard to other deities or rules has got to be the freest (in regards to other deities) and most likely the most powerful. So what God is the most powerful and most free of all? I would argue YHWH is. There hasn't been a god yet that has defeated him or subjected him or made his words not come to pass other than himself.
Try him, seek his word and read it. ask him questions while reading, ask for healing, ask for peace (According to his word) and see if he does it, and if he doesn't, why doesn't he? If we have one life, why live in doubt? why not try to find peace? healing? meaning?
Untested faith is no better than a lie.
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His heart is without knowledge
The line is drawn across the sand
there is no hope for his kind
They have no rest or peace
But the Lord sees all and he will not refrain justice
They thought he was like them.
he will judge them.
They have no understanding, they go astray as sheep
Compassion will give instruction
Mercy will reveal blessing and law
They keep it not.
The enemies teeth are broken
Their arm lacks strength
Terror comes in the night
They have no rest
There is no peace before them
The sons of God are witness,
The earth declares their sin
The sun is smitten in shame
the moon hides its face
The mighty one weighs the hearts and finds them wanting
Heaven drops down with thunder
With grace of the dew in the morning.
The heathen will yet praise the Lord
He renews his mercy before the sun
After the moon has covered its lines
There is yet hope for the forsaken and forgotten
There is peace for those who seek it
righteousness for the faithful
As phinehas impaled the trespasser
As the javelin was moved through zeal
So shall the lord destroy the wicked
and with promise bless the righteous.
They that cannot hear will not hear
neither they that are blinded can see.
their destruction is sudden, as thief in the night.
The seas roar and are tossed
So are the fools in their hope
Their sound is sudden and great
Then they cannot be found
the wind stirs up the dust
To toss to its circuits
So are they that are of the spirit
The observers are confounded by their paths.
The moon is a witness, the depths will not be searched
Neither shall the heavens be measured
So shall the Lord rule forever
no arrow touches his throne
the court of the sun is humbled
Drop down mountains, the mighty one comes
The saints of the most high shines in his glory
the fires are quenched in darkness
For he dwells in the thick darkness
The heavens and earth shall shake
They will tremble at his feet.
The rocks shall not hide them
The caves shall not prevent his eyes
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In order to define God we often use the words Omni (All) potent (powerful) scient (Knowing) present (everywhere) however God has never described himself as All loving. This is something i feel people used to describe God for 3 reasons
1: They don't understand that God isn't ALL loving but shows his love to all things except for sin
2: They are ignorant of they are talking about
3: It purposely listed in order for them to denounce it so that they can further denounce the concept or omni of God.
I disagree that God is all loving, IF we are looking for an attribute to describe God in a sense that we can understand, we should use "Holy" Holy means sacred or revered and in the context of God it can be simplifed to "Set apart, Different in a sense of reverence" Its to emphasis that he is NOT like us, that he is completely different from us "Whom will you liken unto me?" God asks this question for man to consider if there is anything we can think of that is similar to God in power, in knowing, in presence and in his Difference concerning us.
Consider Omniholy before stating Omnibenevolent.
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From the elder scrolls series, particularly morrowind. Can anyone interpret and understand those things? I get a little bit like how vivec defeated the idea of coincidence/luck through exposure of sychroncity and the implication of meanings, but the rest is kind of blurry for me.
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I would like someone to debate the topic of torture, is it needed? does it work? should agencies use it to obtain information? Is the information from torture more likely to be true than if torture was not used? Sources?
Ill go ahead and advocate one source specifically for U.S. The Senate Intelligence Committee Report On Torture.
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I liked the next generation better, though i won't deny that the original one had a lot of good episodes! KHAN!
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Specifically God of the bible. also known as Yahweh, Jehovah, Yahuah or Jesus/Yushua.
foreordain or preordain means that God has created the sequence of events of creation. aka, he already knows if you are going to heaven/hell and there is nothing you can do about it.
Or does he simply see the future and reacts based on how he sees things?
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