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@PREZ-HILTON
you arent thinking about this in the right way. They arent going to change, they dont care what arguement you bring, they hate God and think you are a fool, they will never be convinced because they refuse to.
even scripture tells us to not talk with certain people and convince them. are you smarter than God who is trying to give you peace? or do you think God is a coward too?
Ili would honestly kick their asses,
turn the other cheek boy.
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@DebateArt.com
i usually dont do sarcasm, but i thought it was funny to word it like that.
but speaking seriously, just make people aware of what a rated debate is. if they cant figure it out, a few losses aren't gonna hurt them.
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@DebateArt.com
oh the poor children, they may click the rated debate and lose then complain about it! For the children we must make sure they understand how rating works before letting them do a rated debate! God knows we dont need more people complaining about their own ignorant choices.
it seems i must stand alone in this conflict against ignorance ... For the children!
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@PREZ-HILTON
its not cowardice. thats the largest and most foolish arguement against blocking.
when you block someone, you arent saying you fear their words, you are saying "i dont want to hear/see you." its a method of bringing peace and regulating good voices from evil ones.
assuming you believe in Jesus Christ, should i allow a 3 man team of athiests to always knock on your door, cuss you out and then leave? or, would you be right in locking the door, not answering them and potentially calling the police?
this philosophy of "cowardly people block others" is so stupid it almost makes me vomit.
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just tell him God kills sinners with earthquakes, he blocked me over that.
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you have to practically pay the mods to get them to do anything here, or make the wrong person unhappy. So its no surprise that people disregard most guidelines.
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its demons. People call lots of things mental disorders that is actually sin and demonic power. Its not natural to just despair of life because of identity.
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@bmdrocks21
I guess I’ll go buy a 6 trillion round clip and full auto short barreled rifle from the local gun vending machine
sounds like cyberpunk
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@DavidAZ
when you say fear. do you mean actually be afraid of? or to honor him?
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you could get out of social security by being part of a religion before 1950. hint hint nudge nudge.
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@Reece101
innocent people? LOL you are hilarious. everyone is a rotten evil sinner worthy of eternal suffering and despair.
its the grace of God that we arent just thrown in.
in reality though, earthquakes and other "natural" disasters are because humans keep sinning and doing evil.
but of course you have to pretend outrage about how evil God is while you do nothing to fix the problem, nothing gets done while people complain.
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its not my ignorance you cant tolerate, its my view of reality i hold through Jesus Christ.
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lacking knowledge or awareness in general genius, NOT lacking knowledge on any particular subject.
did i specify lacking knowledge on a particular subject? or did i say that everyone is ignorant?
oh, he blocked me, must mean he ran out of patience in dealing with me
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@Intelligence_06
well. if you want my opinion. mankind errs in not sharing knowledge/awareness of such things, and also errs in disregarding that information if they are made aware of it. If i were a judge and had to settle a case regarding manslaughter and natural disasters, i would have to disregard the U.S law.
but to sum it up.
If they were aware of the potential and still chose to be there, they have made their own choice, no one was at fault.
if they were unaware of the dangers then i would probably demand reperations to the survivors from the people who should have made them aware of it. If i see the same person/people continually neglect to warn them, then i would seek to have them removed and possibly imprisioned for their willful negligence.
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@Reece101
im not saying either or. im saying and both.
man sins and therefore earthquakes.
AND mankind makes choice via knowledge and ignorance.
If a building which was poorly made (which is a sin) causes an earthquake, then did not sin cause an earthquake?
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or block everyone and be blissfully unaware of who says what.
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ease of access does affect ease of disregard.
if (action) is easily accessible, then action is more likely to happen.
of course making it less easy wont remove the killings, it just makes it riskier for the killer.
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i agree that there should be a smaller time limit for voting as a minimum and a larger time limit for round debates as a minimum.
give like 24-48 hours for voting
push the 2 hour debate window to at least 4 hours.
if we didnt care about ratings we'd just get judges to vote that will back up our opinion and disregard voting procedures entirely. Go ahead and make all debates rated except for when voting is done by judges to negate bias.
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truely, this act shows works of a foul spirit that give them ignorance of human nature and what is right.
God shows us in his word that reparations are given to those to whom the wrong is done to, not the children.
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depends on your perspective and how you define wicked. If you believe God is the absolute and/or objective morality author, then what he says is wicked, is wicked.
but if not, then its according to your or mankinds perspective, which is as stable as wind.
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@Intelligence_06
trying to apply legal concepts to the idea of natural disasters and human ignorance is such an extensive headache of subjective logic that i wont even entertain that question.
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obviously the staff is untrustworthy to fairly nuance what fairness and harassment are.
people say its good, its good in precept if we operate in a website that has no bias, no favortism and isnt on the verge of shipwreck. but alas, we dont, and i have screenshots that prove 2 of those 3.
NAY
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@PREZ-HILTON
you assume i follow that false doctrine just because you disagree with me on how scripture defines riches?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
or just dont make explosives. problem solved. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
but hey, if people want to blow things up, thats their right.
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@Greyparrot
correct, if people obeyed God and repented, earthquakes wouldnt happen. if people put their house near a fault line, its not the earths fault that they live there.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
like the definition says, lacking knowledge.
the conjuction AND does not negate the previous words but links them in thought to the next words.
this is a new low even for you, arguing the dictionary to not look ignorant or wrong.
after all the defintion you use paints a broad brush of what ignorance means.
but i spare you regarding semantics.
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Let's start with the one reason you don't believe in infant baptism.
right off the bat you assume you know what i think about infant baptism. I assume you will tell me why i eat tuna next?
i dont argue against infant baptism on the precept of silence. i argue against it based on scripture. here is 1 verse.
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
can infants believe God is? no, therefore they cannot come to God, the baptism is of no effect without faith.
But you raised the issue of me not applying the gifts. 9. really, haven't you read Romans?
finally you actually caught the error, its 9 FRUITS. and they are galatians. gj.
Yes, it is elitist and it's wrong.
No, you don't. You have a right to discuss his answers and to respond appropriately.
well, no need to continue those topics, you refuse to listen to me on those, showing you are incapable of understanding them, or that you think you are smarter than me. i vote the latter because you are already trying to tell me what i think, ironically like an egotistical woman. idk if you are one or not, but you share that same arrogance as they.
Jesus cast the demons out by the Spirit of God. I noticed you said faith, that is what so called faith healers say.
you admit that you noticed i said faith, yet still accused me of topically applying spirit. you seem to be good at falsely accusing and then being flippant about it.
he who calls his brother a fool is in danger of hellfire.
you dont have the holy spirit and therefore are not my brother/sister via blood or spirit. We just agree that jesus saves as far as i can tell, no brotherhood there.
Hey it is my view that God heals and not us. Yet that is not what you were saying above. You asked whether we healed or cast out demons. Now you change the goalposts.
another false accusation, i asked concerning your works, not the authority. if you have no works of faith then i dont need to ask the authority, as faith in you is dead.
Do you even read your bible? Or do you just sit on your bed, like Benny Hinn and wait for the Spirit to sit next to you and show you?
i dont know what benny does, nor his beliefs. but i do read AND i pray. which is what scripture tells us to do.
i perdict any future discussion will simply come to more false witnessing and strawman's on your part, you seem angry and emotional. I notice you no longer bless me the moment i started opposing your beliefs.
i believe you will fail soon, and when you hit the bottom, remember that emotions dont guide, they only reinforce.
that being said, i wont respond anymore to you until you seem open to what i have to say and stop acting like a know it all emotionally charged little girl who tells me what i think and believe and you dont even know my name. Until then, i ask God help give you his peace.
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As to Jesus.
God wasnt attempting a test, he went through the laws of his own word to make himself a scarifice for humanity. What makes the sacrifice of God so great is what is not understood by humanity. That a God, holy, immortal, good, king of all things. would put on flesh, suffer all the evil and temptations we do (and more) to give humanity the opportunity to become like him and dwell with him.
again, the fools are evidenced in that they disregard God by disregarding the trials a person faces in seeking God, dehumanizing the process because they themselves wouldnt lift one finger to do anything that doesnt make them happy.
tldr
hypocrites, suffer like christ and abraham suffered before making them seem meaningless.
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if you want to know what scripture says of predestination, ask.
if you want to know my understanding of it, read my debate with speedrace.
do not assume my feelings or thoughts, do not imprint your vexation or confusion on me.
ask, and ill answer. If you dont understand then that is your problem. Especially if i tried to explain.
As to abraham.
everything about serving God is personal, abraham came out from under ur, which was 1 of the cities built by nimrod who organized the people to build babel and defy God.
its easy to say for you that there was no test, because we are looking back in hindsight and God hasnt asked us to sacrifice our son.
what makes the experience of abraham so awesome is exactly what is not understood, by those who didnt live his life. we didnt live in the time where children were offered to gods. The implications of offering what is most important to you to a God that promised him to be a father of nations... in the future, that the land he walked is where his offspring/seed would dwell... in the future, that the 90 year old woman would have a son... in the future, Yet despite all the impossibility, he believed God more than what his life indicated, than his family indicated, than religion indicated.
yet foolish people who dont walk in that lifestyle and are looking back say. "it was no test."
The greatest method of spotting a fool is when they dont regard the struggle of obeying an invisible God. seeing they make no sacrifice to him themselves.
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addictions is more than just drugs btw. it can be hours spent gambling, watching tv, whatever you spend alot of time on doing that requires more and more time to feel good or as good as before.
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the people who do curse God all day long are in alot of pain, the pain is in the heart, they make an atmosphere for themselves one of bitterness and avoidance of certain things. Generally it takes more for them to feel actual joy instead of pleasure or even giddiness.
When people curse God, its easy as breathing to curse others. soon they get to a point where they would actually feel happy if a person they hated died.
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@ludofl3x
you dont have to lie to me. im not here to condemn you, i simply offer another path. Its entirely up to you what you choose, but some burdens never get easier, you just accept them because you are what you are, and you either cant change or are at a point you dont want to.
lonliness grows.
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@ludofl3x
if what i say comes to pass, then its not a fantasy.
you know i am right about the evil of cursing God, you see the addictions present in your life.
what if i am right about the benefits?
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@Stephen
you have never asked me or challenged me on knowledge of scriptures. you assume im ignorant, but you dont know.
ask what you will.
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but, what if i spiritually identify myself as a bride?
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@ludofl3x
its not a chance. it is promised. It will happen, unless you repent of course. Then, things will get better.
i can tell you the benefits of serving God, since i already told you the detriments of opposing him.
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@Stephen
i dont believe he and i had much contact at all, i dont even remember him to be honest and i never blocked him.
in what way do you think i am a phoney? in what way do you think im a thicko? whatever that means.
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@ludofl3x
actually, on earth as well. The thing about mocking and rejecting God is that evil more slowly accumulates in the persons life. They become miserable, their choices go toward an addictive nature where they eventually make their lifestyle revolved around pleasures that require more and more effort to satisfy.
the heart becomes harder, the emotions more distant, soon, not even loved ones affect them as much.
like a revolving door, so becomes their emotions and choices, revolving around the object of addiction, until all that remains is pleasure or apathy, rarely anything more.
this, is a type of death, slow, creeping and terrible.
and other things will happen as well, i dont have time to explain the myriads of evils.
mercy is what keeps all of humanity alive, it and God's grace working in humans is what keeps them from doing even greater evils. imagine the worst thing you can... that, is tame compared to the evils that could be done every day, if not for God's mercy.
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@Stephen
I couldn't have put that better myself ludo. 10/10
are you confessing he is smarter than you?
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@ludofl3x
what will happen is the same thing that will happen to all. Judgement.
God is very merciful, thats why judgement isnt immediate.
as you read this, you are learning about God's nature wether you wanted to or not. are you angry that i violated your predestined ideas of choice? there is much to learn of what God is. And that he overides the supposed concept of freewill.
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@Stephen
my head does indeed have bone, more than 1. Thank you for acknowledging that.
reason? i have many reasons to block. they arent valid to you, as you arent me, nor do you care for me at all.
you simply refuse to block me because it makes you feel superior over me, ego. that for some strange reason, you want to prove to yourself and this insignificant debate site that you are in a twisted way, better than me. but the reality is that we are all equal, differently equal sure, but still no better or worse than anyone else.
besides, you enjoy mocking and insulting me. though not once have i insulted or mocked you. ironic.
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@ludofl3x
it seems to me you have no desire to know God. That is your choice of course.
but if you are a person of integrity, do not ever mock God or question his ways again. as the knowledge was offered to you, but you rejected it. Making yourself willfully ignorant.
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@ludofl3x
actually the opposite is true. one of God's chief complaints in scripture is that people dont know him.
and i offer a perspective that is unique. As i have the Spirit of God in me. The Holy Spirit. therefore the insights i can offer are much more... personal and intimately connected than you have by observation.
think of it this way.
you see a man shopping.
you ask his wife of 20 years what her husband thinks about shopping.
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its weird how people named planets after gods and imprinted characteristics on them.
what if the gas giant we call jupiter is actually just lazy and sluggish and fat? not the king of gods?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
no, its reality.
tell me without looking it up how many liters of rocket fuel was used to launch the first spacex rocket.
ignorance simply means that you dont know something. nothing more.
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if you wish to work with the laws, i will try to explain God's nature and why they are, and the axioms of it.
if not, you are just entertaining notions that you cannot have faith in. as no human has entered heaven without pain.
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@ludofl3x
no, the experiences are for YOUR benefit. in learning the evils of sin, you appreciate and love the lack of it even more.
reality is written a certain way. if you want to think beyond its precepts and laws, its thought experiment only. making no impact on you unless you try to DO something regarding them.
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@ludofl3x
you are disregarding the experiences as part of the process to get into heaven.
its easy to not think of pain as learning to lean on God, ignored as learning to cry out to God, betrayed as learning to love God, blessed as learning to appreciate God. etc
the thing about being predestined is that just because you know the end result, you dont know what it means or took to get you there.
im going to assume you have read a book before. Did you guess the ending before you reached it? if so, did knowing the ending make the book less enjoyable?
likewise, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.
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@PREZ-HILTON
you are speaking of placing your heart...
you are attaching all worldly goods to treasures and where the treasure is, there your heart is also.
Many people can place their treasure and heart in heaven without having to sell all they have.
How? they give 10% to church, they donate to missions, they invest in companies that support human welfare, they invest time in doing activities that please jesus christ. There are rich christians whose heart is in heaven.
the opposite is also true. there are people who are poor, but only seek their own welfare, that beg on the street for money so they can get their next hit or beer or joint, instead of food or supporting anyone else. their treasure and heart is their belly, their nervous system, their dopamine. and their god is not Jesus Christ.
consider this.
riches = time, posessions, energy.
if your riches determine where your heart goes, then
riches in earthly = hellish heart
riches in heavenly = heavenly heart
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