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If you weren't a MAGA supporter before, you are one now residing in the states.
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The Maga movement isn't going anywhere. I know recently on the site a few have speculated that without Trump's cult of personality it collapses.
I think this mistake is due to a short memory or the site leaning very young. The Maga movement comes from the tea party movement that looked to unseat neocons and make a stand against their own party. It does cross party lines to a certain extent also which is why the teaparty movement backed Sherrod Brown in Ohio when he was first elected. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/21/1100386445/trumps-maga-is-marching-down-a-trail-blazed-by-the-tea-party
The movement very much exists without Trump. This is not about where the MAGA movement came from but whether it has sticking power and I regret to inform liberals that it does.
Movements grow in a very specific way and I studied the formation of the early Christian church to learn how movements spread or at least can spread. The study of the Christian movement by the way is why I know the woke movement regardless of what name it goes by, will also stick around, though it may be at its natural breaking point for the size it can grow to.
Early movements usually start with uneducated outsiders. Christianity was formed by slaves, women and the poor. Or that is where the bulk of the movement was just after the death of Jesus anyway.
This is where the MAGA movement was when Trump took it over. The uneducated. The interesting thing is that just like the Christian movement and you can look at early criticisms of it at its earliest stages. A lot of the Roman texts still survive. They were .locked for being poor and stupid and people of low class. This is similar criticism as what the early MAGA movement got.
If a movement is to spread it has to leave this stage. The stage of the ignorant masses adopting it, and so successful movements go to stage 2, where some wealthy people attach themselves to fund the movement. You see the parallels with Billionaires such as Musk and Trump himself. What comes in around the same time though is what are called "apologists" these apologists are what cause the movement to spread because they give a philosophical case that can be picked up by the elites of society and spread from the elites down. This gives the movement stability.
Just listen to Ramaswamy and Vance debate. These are the MAGA equivalent of apologists and they are what is responsible for the movement spreading beyond just the lower classes.
The MAGA movement is I. This stage so you can expect to see it predictably spread and likely the 2028 election is in the bag as well because it's going to grow beyond the current 51% of the population
The response to this growth up to 60% will be the democratic party fighting for MAGA votes and we saw some signs of this in some elections where democrats were advertising that they agreed with Trump tarrifs.
Fetterman and Bernie sanders despite their different policies us where you can see the type of person a MAGA Democrat would look like.
Anyway MAGA is here to stay and will spread beyond Republicans and you may see a party shift as well, where we have the populist party containing the Trump, Sanders and Fetterman types and the Democrat party with the Cheney, Clinton and Obama types. .
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Biden and Trump are actually friends. Biden had a change of heart when he was asked to join Obama on the ticket in 2008 and then learned what's really going on early into the first term. When he told the news that there is going to be endless immigration, he wasn't saying that to boast, but as a warning to those who wanted to listen at the time. Since before Trump's first presidency, they had agreed for Biden to begin involving Ukraine into the democrat party. Biden hates that bitch Hillary so much its unreal. So Biden begins putting the bait out for all the power hungry democrats for evidence when Trump got into office. He then sees what they did to Trump in his first term, despite his efforts to already expose them. So he and Trump agreed that he would steal the 2020 presidency, but not himself. He would let the democratic party steal it for him, and he reported all findings back to Trump. When it was time for Trump to run again, Biden agreed to begin playing the part of the decrepit, senile old man. At first it was working, that's why Trump got so pissed when they replaced him with that whore bitch Kamala. But in the end Biden still had some tricks up his sleeve and reassured Trump to press on. Once Trump takes office, he will use the evidence Biden has collected over the last 4 years to indict the deep state once and for all. But they're not out of the woodwork yet. As a matter of fact, you should know by now.. all along..
Biden is Q. Q is Biden.
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Even if Trump loses he can still win
If the house and senate end up a majority, the moment that babbling bitch takes the oath they can impeach her on the grounds she was not elected as a candidate by her party, she was installed and that was not following the legal process.
If she is impeached and tampon boy with her, then the speaker of the house becomes president...which would be Speaker Johnson...then Speaker Johnson picks Trump as his VP, he resigns, Trump becomes President, picks JD Vance as his VP.
This would put Trump back into the White House...and since he was selected as VP by Johnson he could run for President in 2028 and if he won he'd technically have 3 terms.
FUCKING MAGA.
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Liberals are correctly pointing out that Trump's McDonalds appearance where he worked the fry station was a publicity stunt.
I am not a partisan so I am going to shoot straight with you guys. This is disgusting. I REALLY thought that Trump applied to work at McDonalds, went through the interview process and got a job there. I also thought he would be serving random people going through the drive through despite recently surviving 3 assassination attempts.
Further more. WTF is wrong with the girl during his McDonalds shift asking him to not let America turn into her home country Brazil? Disgusting bitch believing in American exceptionalism and that we should strive to be great https://www.youtube.com/live/lXK_UVX9pN8?si=wBSxDWxJKsPpujYT
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So Trump posted a picture of himself as a really buff guy in a Pittsburgh steelers uniform on his Twitter .
Leftists such as myself are pissed about this and newsweek as well as other completely unbiased media sources are reporting that Trump is a big fat liar and apparently has never played NFL football.
Many Trump supporters were shocked after reading this article, stating the image of a roided out Pittsburg steelers football playing Trump was a lie https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fake-image-nfl-star-pittsburgh-steelers-1972064
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It's official the october surprise has just dropped. Tim Walz has been confirmed to be a pedophile. I am not making judgements just starting the discussion thread so people can discuss.
https://x.com/DocNetyoutube/status/1845607885125882231
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I heard that once Mr. D.J. Trump goes back in the white house office, he will make America pray again.
Now it makes sense of all the hate , slander, ridicule and attempted killings.
Jesus said they hated him , know they will hate you.
It's not the smokescreen of charges and whatever, it's the protest of keeping state and church separate which is impossible.
So much hate for trying to make America pray again and passing the buck and blame about what others did at the insurrection and blaming the so called pandemic on a hated man.
Many hate what is the great. Many speak of none of whom supposedly are greater.
They don't even have proof that the person's wife hates him.
You want her to hate as you hate him.
I bet not one person can say what Mr. Trump has done to him to hate him.
The media taught you to hate him didn't it?
What he do to you?
He stepped on your toe.
I'm sure he'll apologize to you.
Almost took a bullet for you trying to correct your country. You wished the shooter was successful, don't you?
Don't have all this hate. Just do what you're supposed to do at the polls.
Abraham would be ashamed at you.
Roosevelt would be ashamed.
John F. would be ashamed.
L.BJ., Ford and Nixon may continue to chuckle.
Washington may be laughing at many of you that don't have a clue what so-called racism is.
So you really want the separation.
I think JLP said he's hated because he's a Christian conservative.
True.
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What makes America great?
What made America great?
What is the so called American dream?
If you're an American, are you proud to be one?
If you're not one, do you want to be an American?
Does capitalism make America great?
Has liberalism destroyed it?
Chime in people, even the oblivious folks, y'all come on too.
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Having a man hated , talked about while secretly being supported.
Envious of his success and financial status, insulting his intelligence , making judgments about his spouse and family.
Then you try to kill him.
These men keep coming back , you can keep talking , they will be your president. That is the greatness of America. Truly you don't want greatness so you move to another country right.
Make sure you submit the correct vote if you're a registered American citizen.
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The old guard is bitching and moaning about JD Vance being the future of the republican party along with other associates of the PayPal mafia such as Vivek Ramaswamy.
Not that it matters. If you happen to be a neocon or a Wallstreet guy. Please know that your party was taken from you by an alliance of hillbillies and silicon valley tech billionaires and you deserve this, and it doesn't matter if you don't like it because you are bitches and pussies and will fall in line to do what the fuck you are told or you can just let lefties win and tax you at 75%.
I personally cannot wait until That stupid slut Liz Cheny runs in 2028 and is publicly humiliated by Ramaswamy, and then fucking endorses him because she gets to eat a cookie and cry about how her and the evil people she associates with lost the party.
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Do you still find yourself shocked by anything that goes on in the world today?
Why or why not?
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Why or why not?
What good do you see or don't see living in land of North America?
If it is not great what would make it great?
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I have been reading a lot of Roger stone's writings lately. Watching his interviews. This not merely because he has contributed to the cause of freedom than any man alive. It is because he is a master strategist and I was hoping to pick up on his political strategies.
Trump listens to this guy but not nearly enough. It's the reason why the January 6 plot to save the country failed.
Anyway he has 2 strategic principles he helps repu lican candidates utilize. He has many more butthis thread is about these 2 principles.
1. The VP pick should be somebody who isn't going to harm your campaign.
This is why people Roger stone consults with usually have boring VP picks.
2. Do whatever you can to expand your base without pissing off your current base enough to get them to not vote for you.
Tucker Carlson and Vivek Ramaswamy both violate rule number one and neither of the 2 will expand Trump's base.
There is a prevalent myth that DeSantis voters won't be as excited to vote for trump but I can tell you that when I was in Florida there were already a lot of desantis/trump 24 hats and shirts. DeSantis will probably not harm Trump in Amy way with his actions but he also is unlikely to expand his base.
In one interview that Trump had he exposed his shortlist of VP picks. The one that would I think expand his base a bit without doing anything that will effect trump in an overly negative way is on the shortlist.
Trumps comments lately have also been laying the groundwork for this VP pick.
"We have to put party aside. We need to just do what's right for america and follow common sense. We need common sense candidates" basically things along this line.
This is all to prep everybody to accept Tulsi Gabbard as Trump's VP. She expands the base. She won't say anything overly stupid and she is a fun candidate to watch as well as being anti establishment and keeping an anti establishment message her entire political career.
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Aron Schwartz was arrested by police for the cause of freedom and was set up to spend the rest of his life in prison. https://youtube.com/shorts/F429yqTVUyI?si=tpXKJqAbUsEuVgq1
His crime. Making information free.
Edward Snowden has to now lives in a shithole because he stood up for America by opposing the surveillance state.
Mr. YAMAGUTCHI singlehandedly saved Japan from becoming like China and North Korea and Japan owes him a great debt of gratitude for saving their asses. https://youtu.be/I6Mlyc8nhyI?si=cIOIDoHmGAvHYrF- (video of shinto Abe assassination not gory but could be disturbing)
Julian Assange gave up his freedom to expose the government.
Bradley Manning had his life destroyed to expose evil shit the military was engaged in https://youtu.be/njvqAuh3dYs?si=1AJs4znpbr2rMt5F
He was later transed out as punishment for saving America.
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This is a place everyone can come and celebrate the return of our president.
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Remarks by President Biden on the Continued Battle for the Soul of the Nation
Independence National Historical Park
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
(September 1, 2022)
My fellow Americans, please, if you have a seat, take it. I speak to you tonight from sacred ground in America: Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
This is where America made its Declaration of Independence to the world more than two centuries ago with an idea, unique among nations, that in America, we’re all created equal.
This is where the United States Constitution was written and debated.
This is where we set in motion the most extraordinary experiment of self-government the world has ever known with three simple words: “We, the People.” “We, the People.”
These two documents and the ideas they embody — equality and democracy — are the rock upon which this nation is built. They are how we became the greatest nation on Earth. They are why, for more than two centuries, America has been a beacon to the world.
But as I stand here tonight, equality and democracy are under assault. We do ourselves no favor to pretend otherwise.
So tonight, I have come this place where it all began to speak as plainly as I can to the nation about the threats we face, about the power we have in our own hands to meet these threats, and about the incredible future that lies in front of us if only we choose it.
We must never forget: We, the people, are the true heirs of the American experiment that began more than two centuries ago.
We, the people, have burning inside each of us the flame of liberty that was lit here at Independence Hall — a flame that lit our way through abolition, the Civil War, Suffrage, the Great Depression, world wars, Civil Rights.
That sacred flame still burns now in our time as we build an America that is more prosperous, free, and just.
That is the work of my presidency, a mission I believe in with my whole soul.
But first, we must be honest with each other and with ourselves.
Too much of what’s happening in our country today is not normal.
Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
Now, I want to be very clear up front: Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology.
I know because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.
But there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country.
These are hard things.
But I’m an American President — not the President of red America or blue America, but of all America.
And I believe it is my duty — my duty to level with you, to tell the truth no matter how difficult, no matter how painful.
And here, in my view, is what is true: MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of law. They do not recognize the will of the people.
They refuse to accept the results of a free election. And they’re working right now, as I speak, in state after state to give power to decide elections in America to partisans and cronies, empowering election deniers to undermine democracy itself.
MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards — backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love.
They promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country.
They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th — brutally attacking law enforcement — not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger to the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots.
And they see their MAGA failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections.
They tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people. This time, they’re determined to succeed in thwarting the will of the people.
That’s why respected conservatives, like Federal Circuit Court Judge Michael Luttig, has called Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans, quote, a “clear and present danger” to our democracy.
But while the threat to American democracy is real, I want to say as clearly as we can: We are not powerless in the face of these threats. We are not bystanders in this ongoing attack on democracy.
There are far more Americans — far more Americans from every — from every background and belief who reject the extreme MAGA ideology than those that accept it.
And, folks, it is within our power, it’s in our hands — yours and mine — to stop the assault on American democracy.
I believe America is at an inflection point — one of those moments that determine the shape of everything that’s to come after.
And now America must choose: to move forward or to move backwards? To build the future or obsess about the past? To be a nation of hope and unity and optimism, or a nation of fear, division, and of darkness?
MAGA Republicans have made their choice. They embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies.
But together — together, we can choose a different path. We can choose a better path. Forward, to the future. A future of possibility. A future to build and dream and hope.
And we’re on that path, moving ahead.
I know this nation. I know you, the American people. I know your courage. I know your hearts. And I know our history.
This is a nation that honors our Constitution. We do not reject it.
This is a nation that believes in the rule of law. We do not repudiate it.
This is a nation that respects free and fair elections. We honor the will of the people. We do not deny it.
And this is a nation that rejects violence as a political tool. We do not encourage violence.
We are still an America that believes in honesty and decency and respect for others, patriotism, liberty, justice for all, hope, possibilities.
We are still, at our core, a democracy.
And yet history tells us that blind loyalty to a single leader and a willingness to engage in political violence is fatal to democracy.
For a long time, we’ve told ourselves that American democracy is guaranteed, but it’s not.
We have to defend it, protect it, stand up for it — each and every one of us.
That’s why tonight I’m asking our nation to come together, unite behind the single purpose of defending our democracy regardless of your ideology.
We’re all called, by duty and conscience, to confront extremists who will put their own pursuit of power above all else.
Democrats, independents, mainstream Republicans: We must be stronger, more determined, and more committed to saving American democracy than MAGA Republicans are to — to destroying American democracy.
We, the people, will not let anyone or anything tear us apart. Today, there are dangers around us we cannot allow to prevail. You’ve heard it — more and more talk about violence as an acceptable political tool in this country. It’s not. It can never be an acceptable tool.
So I want to say this plain and simple: There is no place for political violence in America. Period. None. Ever.
We saw law enforcement brutally attacked on January the 6th. We’ve seen election officials, poll workers — many of them volunteers of both parties — subjected to intimidation and death threats. And — can you believe it? — FBI agents just doing their job as directed, facing threats to their own lives from their own fellow citizens.
On top of that, there are public figures — today, yesterday, and the day before — predicting and all but calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets.
This is inflammatory. It’s dangerous. It’s against the rule of law. And we, the people, must say: This is not who we are.
Ladies and gentlemen, we can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American. They’re incompatible.
We can’t allow violence to be normalized in this country. It’s wrong. We each have to reject political violence with — with all the moral clarity and conviction this nation can muster. Now.
We can’t let the integrity of our elections be undermined, for that is a path to chaos.
Look, I know politics can be fierce and mean and nasty in America. I get it. I believe in the give-and-take of politics, in disagreement and debate and dissent.
We’re a big, complicated country. But democracy endures only if we, the people, respect the guardrails of the republic. Only if we, the people, accept the results of free and fair elections. Only if we, the people, see politics not as total war but mediation of our differences.
Democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election: either they win or they were cheated. And that’s where MAGA Republicans are today.
They don’t understand what every patriotic American knows: You can’t love your country only when you win. It’s fundamental.
American democracy only works only if we choose to respect the rule of law and the institutions that were set up in this chamber behind me, only if we respect our legitimate political differences.
I will not stand by and watch the will of the American people be overturned by wild conspiracy theories and baseless, evidence-free claims of fraud.
I will not stand by and watch elections in this country stolen by people who simply refuse to accept that they lost.
I will not stand by and watch the most fundamental freedom in this country — the freedom to vote and have your vote counted be taken from you and the American people.
Look, as your President, I will defend our democracy with every fiber of my being, and I’m asking every American to join me.
(A protestor disruption can be heard.)
Throughout our history, America has often made the greatest progress coming out of some of our darkest moments, like you’re hearing in that bullhorn.
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As a Russian outside observer I was very interested in this January 6th insurrection by Trump's storm troopers, but this footage shows they are absolute animals.
Please look at yourself and what you are doing MAGAtards and stop. https://youtu.be/CUO8secmc0g?si=VobHskBlbWwlpPbp
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According to many estimates, the Floyd riots only cost hard working Americans about 1 billion dollars.
The combined total of the current MAGA riots against corporate gays is now reaching around 30 billion dollars.
Who are the real terrorists here?
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