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@Stephen
I don't care what they are I'm not a f****** monotheist nor do I have live by the Bible. This post is just another one of those we all hate Christians so let's post something about monotheism that we want to pick on Christians for and let's not discuss any sort of positive religious topics or other religions because the atheist don't give a s*** the only reason they're here is to tell theists we're all f****** mentally ill.
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Supernatural is a false term. If something occurs in nature and it follows natural law therefore it's natural. People can recognize it comes from some higher source or from within themselves. Most atheists don't believe in either thing. They just believe we're randomly born, randomly live and randomly die.
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@Stephen
I think you're just cherry-picking which of the monotheist religions are going to criticize because you don't want to talk bad about Jews and Muslims because you don't hate them as much as you hate Christians.
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Well atheists believe that all theists are mentally ill so of course it's all made up the fact that we make up the same things makes us even more mentally ill.
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@949havoc
You have to remember that the anti-Christian atheist and theist here believe if one Christian believes it then all of Christianity follows it.
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@Stephen
The verses are all Old Testament why don't you include Jews in your hate filled rhetoric.
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@Lemming
I have no idea why he's allowed to continue to post in the religion section of this forum. Almost everything he post is a calling out of members of the forum which my understanding is against the rules.
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Age of consent is about protecting those who are mentally vulnerable to those who are more mentally savvy. To state that a 30-year-old having sex with a 14-year-old is appropriate is not appropriate. Taking advantage of a 14-year-old are convincing her that she wants to have sex is exactly the kind of thing people have been talking about when it comes to rape or lack of consent. I'm for protecting children, and not penalizing people who are close in age from having sex. Cases should be done on an individual basis to determine whether or not some sort of consent violation occurred. But there's no reason people under the age of 18 should be having sex with someone that's more than 5 years older than them there is a huge difference between the mental and physical body of a 14-year-old and a 19 year old.
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Animals don't have rights as much as we have decided they should not be abused be cause they are living mammals. You can't beat or starve an animal but you can humanely kill and eat one. You own your animals but you can not treat them poorly. Sex with an animal is abuse because most animals don't breed out of species. Only certain animal have sex for pleasure.
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Intelligence and compassion are not synonymous.
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Not sure where the if you believe in a god your happy stuff ever came from.
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@drlebronski
It's getting to the point people here are too stupid to even talk to.
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@drlebronski
Only someone who's not sure about their own sexuality thinks someone can be coerced into being a certain sexual orientation.
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Do people really care if people they think are stupid racists die?
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@Stephen
And don't ask me about it again I already answered all that s*** and I told you Jesus said specifically you can do all the good works you want it will not get you into heaven the only thing that gets you into heaven is believing on the son of God and accepting that I died for your sins. Arguing with me that's not what said but it is. you weren't asking about me this, it is about Jesus I already answered you with my personal opinion about my personal life you don't like my answers so you're going to be a dick about it that's fine I really don't give a crap I can move on to the next subject just fine.
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@Stephen
I'm sure some of them do but you can do all the good work you want when you're a Christian it does not get you into heaven. So to say I do good works cuz Jesus will let me into heaven is not correct Jesus said the only way into heaven is through me so you can do all the good work she want if you don't believe Jesus died for your sins technically you don't get into heaven. If we are going by the book.
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Are you spirituality is anything that helps a person to improve themselves or bring them peace without necessarily a god involved. This could be meditation or fly fishing.
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@zedvictor4
You can't legally be dead if you're not legally born I'm not talking about f****** biology or morality I'm talking about legality which is all that matters in this argument. You can't be considered dead if you were never born you can't be considered murdered if you were never born. If you believe that abortion murders or kills a baby then you are pro-life and should quit arguing the pro-choice argument because you're a hypocrite.
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@Stephen
Works does not get you into heaven Jesus specifically said that that's why your statements false.
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@Stephen
If you're giving something to someone with an expectation of something in return it's not a gift. So no I don't expect if I'm giving to someone or helping someone for them to do something for me in exchange other than to not take advantage of the fact that I help them.
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@Stephen
Rewarded by whom?
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@Stephen
Actually Jesus is the only way to heaven is through him not through works so that point doesn't make any sense to me.
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I'm not sure how living a good life and being decent to people being reward in its own right is something that's anti-christian or anti any spirituality.
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@Bones
No I don't feel I'm supporting the wrong side I'm tired of talking in circles around morons that bring up things like oh if I lose my birth certificate are you allowed to kill me because it's stupid and it doesn't mean anything.
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I'm in plenty of humans that think they deserve to be worshiped they'll know why something is advanced as a god wouldn't feel the same way.
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@Bones
The unborn don't have rights they don't have identification they don't have a birth certificate they don't have anything to verify their even alive because they're not born yet whether you like it or not now quit pulling me back into the conversation when I said I'm done.
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@ILikePie5
They don't have rights because they're not born. The criteria to be a citizen is to be born in the United States. It's not because they don't have rights they don't have rights cuz they're not born. Don't add anything extra to it cuz that's just you lying.
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@TheMorningsStar
We're discussing the unborn having rights if you're going to be like this then I don't need to respond to you again thanks.
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John Lennon hit his wife, Gandhi slept with 14 year olds, Sister Teresa was a cruel b****. Very few civil rights leaders live up to the standard with which people think they should.
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@TheMorningsStar
You are not a citizen of the United States or even someone that can have a birth certificate or get a driver's license or ID or anything else until you're born. Birth is the criteria that establishes humanness. Like it or not that is what my argument is based on legal standing. Morally I would not have an abortion so I won't but that should not keep me from telling someone else they can't because I don't freaking like their moral stance on it. If I feel strongly enough about it then I will join a pro-life group and fight for people to not have abortion and for the unborn to have rights I don't because I don't think they should. Which is why I am pro-choice and support pro-choice candidates and causes.
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@TheMorningsStar
Mugging involves a victim whose rights have been violated. The unborn don't have rights you cannot violate them.
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So because we found muggings to be illegal I want kids to be raised to Spartans is that what you're implying that your moral standards okay but mine's not.
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@3RU7AL
I hope your not implying once you have an abortion you are damaged and can never parent.
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You can list your personal reasons for being pro life.You never have to have an abortion. Your moral standard is not something you get to force onto others. No one wants to be in an accident, that does not stop one from driving. They drive safer. It still happens.
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Big or small, if you suck in bed, you suck. There is more to sex than penitration. Have some skillz.
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@Fruit_Inspector
Personally no. Now I have extreme problems with partial birth abortion cuz I believe once any part of the baby's body is out that child is partly born and to interfere should be a crime. Legally there are boundaries that we put on what is considered life, most states do not have late-term abortions legal because once the brain is developed it's considered bad form to have an abortion. But that has nothing to do with the fact that most abortions occur before a certain time and only occur after that tend to be medically necessary.
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@Fruit_Inspector
Very few if any abortions are late term that is that crap that people whip out when they don't really have anything else to say about abortion.
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@Fruit_Inspector
No it isn't. The only reason Christians care about the unborn is once a child is born they believe they're contaminated with original sin. So somehow terminating a pregnancy is evil but letting people die some other ways just fine it's complete and utter hypocrisy. Stopping someone from being born is not the same as killing them whether you think so or not.
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How do you feel it differs from the maiden mother crone example?
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@TheMorningsStar
I said born that means once it comes out of the woman's body if you want to attach the umbilical cord to the argument feel free to do so but that's not what I stated. Until you're born and you're breathing and alive you don't exist not in a legal sense. If you want to discuss the morality of abortion that's a totally different argument and has nothing to do with the law.
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@TheMorningsStar
Being born outside the mother and their body existing free from her womb
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@TheUnderdog
People marry for all kinds of reasons and some don't involve children. Some can't have them some are too old. What a ridiculous assumption all marriage is to pop out kids and there is not love or companionship involved. Do you save all that for a mistress?
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@TheUnderdog
Complete lie having children is not a requirement for marriage you can be married and never have a child with another person, falsehood. Marriage is a union of two people in their assets.
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All marriages should be civil unions. Everybody should have to go to a judge and form their partnership and then if they want to have some sort of church or marriage ceremony they can do that. Somehow tieing marriage to the church is a falsehood marriage is a state sanctioned Union between two people. I don't care if it's two guys two girls a guy and a girl or more than two people as long as everybody's consenting and of age it really shouldn't matter what anybody thinks the government should acknowledge if they want to form a partnership and make it legal.
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Government wanting to control our life goes back to the monarchy it's the whole reason that the constitution established a Bill of Rights. Pretending people in power don't want to control people not in power doesn't exist as stupid it has nothing to do with covet or mass and in existed way before this bull crap.
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Abortion is not killing anybody. The unborn are not born they do not have a life yet in the sense that they do not have a living body. Comparing abortion to a real life person dying a horrible painful death is stupid.
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Power is more than physical strength. God doesn't even have a body so that's really dumb analogy.
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Luke 1:35: The angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be holy; he will be called Son of God. No sex. Life was put into her womb. Whole thread is lies.
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