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@Lunar108
My feelings are reliable enough to choose friends and a spouse. Sorry you live in fear of others because emotion is infallible. My gods don't claim to have invented universal laws. My parents didn't practice a religion. My family who did are not my religion. Your treading into atheist bigotry. If you get to decide what I do in my home I can decide things for you too. My child has not been taught my religion. Quit letting your hate decide how people live and actually engage with others. Oh wait, you can't.
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@Lunar108
Well that's the problem with the religions that have holy books which tend to be the monotheist religions. Now they can claim that their miracles are scientific but they're not and if people are trying to apply science to explain them then they have no faith. Most of the things that happened in myths did not happen on the Earth. If they had there would be more proof of them. If religious myth isn't being taught in school with science, then whether or not a person wants to think of it as science really isn't any of your business. When they want to teach it in schools or they want to apply it in a way that affects you then you can have a problem with it. If you want to use science as a reason to not believe in gods again that's fine that's your prerogative. But you're not going to convince me that I need to use science to decide whether or not there's are gods because science has nothing to do with religion.
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@Lunar108
If you were to say I can't be religious because I can't apply science to it to verify it I get that that makes sense. To say religions are false because it's not scientific isn't the same thing. Religion involves ritual and worship of a deity of some kind, one or many, but the point is there's an interaction between the believer and a god ( s). Religion works on faith the same as any other interpersonal relationship. Now if you were to say to me I also can't believe in religion because I can't see the being that I have a relationship with or I'm interacting with I get that. But for those of us that are theist and genuine theists there should have been some kind of point where you felt an interaction with that being on some level. That is what's referred to as a calling or an experience. Where at some point during prayer, meditation, ritual or worship you experienced an internal feeling where you felt you were interacting with something outside yourself. That feeling should have triggered a continued feeling of interacting with the being outside yourself. That is belief / faith and religion is an organized worship of that being based on your belief /faith. If you haven't experienced that then you're not going to ever be religious. But there are plenty people who have experienced that, outside yourself universal wholeness, that don't necessarily attribute it to a god that engage in a spiritual practice. Those are traditions that tend to lean towards a soul but no gods like Buddhism. But again there's that sense of being more to existence than just being a person on the Earth.
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@Lunar108
Very few religions have stories where the gods don't have some kind of origin. Only monotheism has God creating the actual universe. If you look at most stories where man is created the universe already exists. If you look at stories where the universe is created or they try to explain the universe it usually involves an animal or the elements.
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I can't imagine a parent who has children just to punish them. That is some trailer park storytelling. Thank goodness there are creation stories where the gods made man because they they just wanted to they wanted to have someone to converse with. I mean the god you're talking about is more like Zeus who sent Pandora's box to Earth to punish the fact that man have been made. And when you look at what else you said he is not decent or nice he like raped like 75 women. I just I don't I honestly don't get it. And when you compare that to Jesus they're not anywhere near close. I don't think Jesus was talking about the God of Abraham at all. I think he was talking about the true creator that's why I say the best Christians are the ones that never read the Bible they just decide they like Jesus and want to follow how he lived.
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I'm asking everyone who is a theist to completely avoid this one. I know some of you won't because you have to engage but just on this one let the atheists wallow in the mud by themselves. There's insults and then there's insults this one's pretty bad. It's barely even a religious question.
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So if a theist agrees with you politically they're okay, if they disagree with you politically you hate them. LOL.
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Being illiterate on how pre-Christian gods work is not my problem.
If you spend years debating theists and haven't grasped a basic concept of a calling you have failed.
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@Lunar108
1.god created humans in the perfect shape ,2.god have a plan for everyone ?3.religions tend to be extremely homophobic take islam and christianity for example.
1. No.
2. Not exactly. Some have goddesses of fate who monitor and a person's path.
3. Nah. There are gay and gender neutral gods and goddesses in polytheism.
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What a very professionally written article. /sarcasm. Nature happens, medical conditions happen. Not sure what god(s) have to do with it.
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There are plenty of spiritual practices that have an afterlife that don't have anything to do with gods. Religion is the organized worship of gods. The belief in eternal spirit predates most religions it's called animism. With the pagan religions animism developed with the gods and you have this sort of nature/shaministic / cycles of the year religions that involve gods that have things to do with natural occurrences. Eventually a lot of those natural occurrences are attributed to one God and you end up with the monotheist religions. When I look at Judaism part of the reason I don't think the afterlife is all that important to them is you have one God and he tells the Jews he's the God of their people if you look at their stories he has pulled them through things and out of the fire over and over again so there's I believe this idea that unless you're really evil and you completely blow off the law then you have some type of afterlife that's beneficial or not bad. Sort of like once Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden they still interacted with God they just weren't in Paradise so I don't think Jews ever believe they're truly cut off from God unless they're absolutely horrible people. But I'm not Jewish that's just my impression of it.
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There are plenty of religions that don't have omnipotent gods if that's what you're looking for. But honestly you're not looking for a god to follow so I don't understand why you're asking. Even if you're raised in a religion you at some point have to feel a calling to follow that god or you don't anymore.
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Isn't each religion teaching that those who don't accept its theological paradigm are destined, by definition, to violent punishment.
No. Only monotheists religions have a worship me or suffer stance.
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I hope you can see it's kind of hard to buy that your God's existed from the very beginning of the universe but he didn't bother to send anybody to help everyone out until Jesus which was literally just over 2,000 years ago. In the meantime he basically let the devil set up a bunch of other religions that are false just to prove his is right? When you talk about God at the very beginning of the universe and then try to relate it to Christ you can see where it looks like God's a basically uninvolved piece of crap. The god of Abraham is not the Creator. Gods are nothing more than evolved beings. The Creator, the source completely different.
And you can't say there's anything such as death if we're eternal. Spirit doesn't die, the body quits working and the spirit leaves the body. We are eternal.
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Someone who uses more than one identity on a website doesn't get to call anybody anything because they're very dishonest. Especially when they're going to lie about a religion they supposedly practice and are involved in just to look good.
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There's nothing interesting about someone creating an account, not using it for years and then all of a sudden deciding to post as a "Gnostic Christian". Gnostic Christians aren't all atheists either so they're totally misrepresenting the religion that they supposedly engage in. This is nothing more than someone using the word Christian in their name to try to get away with bashing Christians so that it doesn't look like they're bashing Christians because they are one. The question is which banned atheist is using the account.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Then you're in the wrong place.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
It's so easy.
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Look at atheists arguing over who is more like God/Jesus. The envy is hysterical.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
LOL
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Atheists should be glad there are theists. You know who you are better than. Your whole identity is based on it. You're welcome.
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@TheUnderdog
If the fetus is a human being then I should be able to take out a life insurance policy on it, it should have a birth certificate, I should be able to get an ID for it and I can't do any of those things. Do you know why, because it's not born yet therefore, It's not a human being yet. It is a potential human being and until it's born it's not a victim.
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@TheUnderdog
The unborn did not have rights there is no victim in an abortion.
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@TheUnderdog
Having done investigation for adoptions I can tell you it's an extremely expensive process. And I don't know what you mean by poor but there are middle class families who can't afford the attorney and the investigation fee.
Obviously it is considered an extraordinary because it's segregated out from every other medical procedure on the planet.
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@Lunar108
Myths did not happen on Earth. They happen in spirit realms. They are not fact but they are not false. Have said this before. Gods don't walk the Earth like they do in myth or we could see them in physical form. They exist in realms accessed by shaman who tell the stories.
You think people separate their personality from their deep religious belief?
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@Lunar108
If that is their religion then that is how they think. Of course I don't hang out with them. I go around family on the holidays for parties, we don't hang out other than that.
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You can't separate a philosophy that you think is hate filled from the people who practice it. No one says white supremacy sucks but I can hang out with white supremacist. I am sure atheists will say "sure we can" but that's a lie. No one does that. So you can say it to please some here, I know better.
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@Lunar108
You can't separate a philosophy that you think is hate filled from the people who practice it. No one says white supremacy sucks but I can hang out with white supremacist. I am sure atheists will say "sure we can" but that's a lie. No one does that. So you can say it to please some here, I know better.
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If you don't believe adoption should be free, you're not pro-life. If you don't believe all children under the age of 18 should have complete healthcare coverage, you're not pro-life. Vasectomies are now reversible if you get a woman pregnant you're as responsible as she is as far as the finances of the child after being born. A woman has every right to not have a child come out of her body. The fact that you don't know the difference between money and an actual human body being forced to go through an event that could cause their own death is why men should not make any decisions regarding pro-choice or pro-life. Most abortions are done via pill and people still complain that they don't want that available to people. It's nine times out of 10 the monotheist religious psychotics that want to prevent any and all birth control, abortion without surgery and sex education. If you decide a woman has no right to privacy when it comes to abortion then no one has any right to privacy on any medical concern. And the government should get to decide whether or not you have any medical procedure.
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@PGA2.0
So sorry for your loss.
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If you hate all Muslims because of the bad ones then hating all men because some are rapists is ok too.
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That's not true. Atheists are perfect and not one thought isn't unique to them and them alone.
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It's funny because when it comes to religion he will tell you that just because you experienced it doesn't mean anyone else does. And because you experience it doesn't make it true. But when it comes to guns he will tell you because he felt powerful the first time he shot a gun and that everybody feels that way, it's everybody's experience because it was his. It's the biggest piece of hypocrisy I've ever seen him type out on this website.
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@Lemming
True, vampires need blood to exist it sounds like she just like to kill children and drink their blood.
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@FLRW
Were we supposed to care that you look something up on Google?
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Oh look another atheist ancient aliens cult member. Many of the creatures listed are not religion based. If your going to argue religious mythology at least try to be accurate.
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The ol' atheist claim that they were present during the creation of every single religion. How old are they? Older than those guys in the Bible. Maybe that's why they're so bitter they're just sick and tired of being alive for thousands of years.
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Okay and then the first time you ask for something and it doesn't happen how is it a f****** opiate. So that covers the Christians do you care to address the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Pagans...
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I have no idea what kind of solace you think religion offers on that. The belief of possibly seeing someone again on the other side has to do with believing in a soul or spirit, that's not exclusive to religion. The Catholic Church ( and some Protestant ones) stance is that those who commit suicide and children who aren't baptized can't get into heaven. Religion doesn't create any sort of opiate for people who lose their children or loved ones in that way. I have yet to see where religion is the opiate of the masses other than in circumstances involving Christians running for office. And even then it tends to stir people up not calm them down.
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I'll clue you not enough posts get deleted in this forum and the ones that do you might as well leave them because people say the same thing just nicer.
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Imagine more than half the world's population being born with brain lesions since the beginning of time. What a fluke.
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It's not up to theists to explain to atheists why you can experience deity. That's a self analysis thing.
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Obviously it's not my core stance or I would have said so. Do you want to be pissed off about guns be pissed off but don't make up s*** about me thanks.
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Hunting and shooting at targets.
I have not seen a single if we gave the students guns there'd be less shootings comment once other than yours at least in this topic.
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I didn't work in juvenile probation because I was indifferent to kids getting shot at school. I actually enjoyed working with you and now delinquents and juveniles at risk. The fact is just like adult crimes where adults are the victims there are juvenile crimes where juveniles are the victims. It's not a matter of indifference is a statement of fact and honestly the matter of guns gets addressed here constantly I didn't even know this had happened to you posted here because it didn't even come up on my news. Once the fourth victim died it did because then it becomes a mass shooting under the law and that's what makes it interesting to the news media. But I have to say I don't know what would be addressed in this topic on guns that haven't been addressed in other topics on guns the fact is getting rid of the guns won't stop juveniles from committing crime on one another and I don't feel I should have to give up my guns because some criminals somewhere uses them. I don't like the fact people are starting to drive cars in the crowds of people I certainly don't want to lose my car for it. So maybe I am indifferent because when I look at the topic I know that no matter what we addressed nothing's going to get done because it has nothing to do with guns but that's what it's about and it seems indifferent because I have guns and therefore I don't want to blame guns. I'm a blame people kind of person and until we start addressing some of the problems with the United States in general it's going to continue to happen it's been happening since what's his hell climbed up the clock tower.
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I'm just glad you are finally being open and honest and not hiding behind the I'm more moral than you bs.
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