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Wicca wasn't a religion in until the early 1950s
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@Reece101
Okay well let's talk about this then the concept of God must be older than 2000 years if there were people worshiping gods in the bronze Age which was 3,700 years ago. Jesus is 2,000 years old other religions including the god of Abraham are older than that. If you can't figure out what people are saying or you don't understand the concepts involved in religion in general don't freaking come here and argue about them. The concept of God is much older than 2,000 years old and if you don't actually believe that then you are an idiot because there is actually archeology that supports the fact gods were worship longer than 2,000 years ago whether the gods exist or not they were worshiped so the concept existed.
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Why is it that atheist associate everything in a religious text that is myth, as fact. Just because it's in a book doesn't make it science. Myths aren't meant to be scientific they're meant to be fantastic because you're talking about supernatural beings. It's it's sad this is what you spend your time on. Instead of reading the Quran for a scientific information maybe you should try science book.
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@FLRW
Yeap must be why you like to slum it here.
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@Stephen
Your choice to ask after being told no twice. Just so you are aware again your were told nope.
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@FLRW
Or they're smart enough to know to stay away from you that you're a bigot and you like rapist.
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@FLRW
Every atheist was present for the beginning of every religion what a miracle.
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@Stephen
I told you earlier I'm not discussing it with you and you continue to bring it up this is at this point the 22nd reference to it.
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@Reece101
I didn't care if you believe its true or not what you need to do to be accurate. If you're just going to make stuff up then you're not even addressing the material. You're just saying what you're saying to be antagonistic without being accurate makes you look stupid. It's like talking about the stay puft marshmallow man's role in the Harry Potter books yeah it's all fiction but you look dumb as hell saying it.
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@Reece101
Nowhere in Christian beliefs does it say God came into existence 2,000 years ago. It says Christ was born 2000 years ago. If you can't understand the difference between the two concepts you shouldn't be here discussing them with people. It has nothing to do with Christian's beliefs it has to do with being accurate to the myths involved in the Christian religion.
And honestly theists before atheists. Don't pretend you don't lump theists in one big freaking pile of illiterate, mentally ill, mentally incompetent human beings.
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What's really important is what non-belief means to the atheist. Don't forget this Christmas to tell the theist in your life but you really think of them and see how that works out for you. Quit being cowards and only say it on the internet.
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Lots of people visit Notre Dame too. Tourism is a money making industry. Thanks for participating. Again a worthless topic, on a worthless forum.
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@Reece101
I can't believe you think anyone should take you seriously at this point.
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@Reece101
By my estimate God has only existed for about 2000 years. Try to think that through.
What?
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@Stephen
Those gods were predominant and worshipped in the Bronze Age as well. That's before the Iron Age right? but it probably goes back before that. It's an animist based religion not sure exactly when that might have started.
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@Stephen
I'm not a druid so no. I'm also not a member of a coven, I'm a solitary. My religion is Heathenism, the pre- Christian gods of the Germans, Norse and Anglo-Saxons. Stonehenge is not part of my wheelhouse but it would still be interesting to see.
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The thing about ancient monuments is before light pollution the sky would have been so bright and the stars would have been so defined that our ancient ancestors had a far more familiar relationship with the skies than we do. There are reflection pools at Aztec temples where they did stargazing so they didn't have to strain and look up the whole time. While the moon would have been their timekeeper from month to month, they had to find a way to mark what time of year it was. There's a reason that a lot of these monuments line up with a solstice because the solstice points are midway through the season. You could then based on where the moon was in relation to the solstice when it would be safe to plant and not lose your seeds to frost. I would not be surprised if there wasn't a table or platform at some point in Stonehenge where offerings would have been made in the form of live animals being sacrificed to make sure that they got through winter without starving. And I believe it's that general area too where they found bog people and they've kind of determined that those were probably human sacrifices. It is nice though that they get to go and celebrate at Stonehenge because it's my understanding most of the time it's shut down you really can't get very close to it.
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Santa is a known lie intentional told to children knowing one day you will tell them you lied. Any theists feels their gods are real and would not pass them as real now fake later. Most people don't have Santa experiences. No idea why this comes up.
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@FLRW
Because Christianity is not a religion based in Judaism. Christianity is actually based out of the Roman area. Because Paul was Jewish and had a background the Jewish faith it was mixed in with it, but the base core of Christianity is out of Rome and that's why the Catholic Church was Christianity until Protestantism. And that's why god impregnated Mary because that's how it worked in the Roman stories. It's also why Christmas is it the same time as Saturnalia and not Hanukkah.
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Says the guy who in another post says his favorite god is Zeus because he gets all the women but in the stories where he gets all the women he rapes them. Makes no sense to me either but hey that's the way the atheist mind works.
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@rbelivb
Most of the conversation here revolve around Christians and the monotheistic religions. Sometimes I like to chuck a log on the fire to remind people there is more than that out there. Even if we are a small population in the west.
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@rbelivb
I believe all the gods exist as distinct individual beings. I believe there's probably gods that we don't even know about because we don't have access to them based on where they're at and where we're at. Whether or not my personal experience is accurate really doesn't matter it's my personal experience and it's how I choose to live my life. I would never expect you to make choices based on that. And as long as I'm not infringing that on you you really have nothing to say about it.
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If a Christian dressed like Jesus to go to church I would laugh at them and so would you. LARP is not a religion. I have no issue with clergy wearing something sacred or special but I am not a Viking. It's 2021, I am usually in jeans and a t shirt.
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Atheist continue to admit they are only here to bully theists for their own enjoyment.
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@Bones
Everybody knows what's being spread here.
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@EtrnlVw
Yeah they will be even more confused on that one. I don't think they get deism any more than any other concept.
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@EtrnlVw
Well aware of that I believe that the creator of the universe is that has nothing to do with gods and gods are beings and evolve the same as humans in a way that's different to us on different to us because they're on different planes. I don't have any problem with anyone arguing a Creator without bringing all the other little gods into it but Tradesecret is very specific about what he thinks so he had every right to have that question posed to him.
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@EtrnlVw
The question was raised to Tradesecret who certainly has chosen a creator inside a religion and certainly has said that religion involves Jesus Christ so your explanation for how you feel is legit, you can not include Trade in that. He can still be asked and can decide to answer.
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@EtrnlVw
Nope. If you want to discuss that you believe in a Creator outside of all religions that make sense and everything you said applies. The minute you say I believe in Jesus or the God of Abraham and choose a religion of which that Creator exists you now have to explain why it is that none of the other religions, some of which are way older than Jesus don't merit the same standing as your Creator God. If you say you're a Christian, or believe that the God of Abraham is the creator of the universe then you're an atheist to all other religions and gods. The other atheists have every right to ask you why it is your god warrants belief and all the other ones don't. This bull crap that somehow monotheists are more enlightened than polytheist is just atheist rhetoric with one god. Once you pick a religion and say that this religion says how the world was actually created and that God's the Creator then you've chosen the other religions is wrong. Atheist + 1.
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@Stephen
Your little rape joke with your buddy is even more offensive than normal for you congratulations.
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As an avid camper I've peed outside on many occasions. Sexist pig.
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@Stephen
Take 5 minutes and read some posts, jerk.
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Doesn't seem like there's any reason for the atheist to be posting here if it's all been summed up in 14 minutes on a YouTube video. You guys are really wasting your time, it's kind of sad when you think about it really.
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Zeus was a notorious rapist, why am I not surprised he's your favorite.
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There's a topic for you every single theist that's ever lived is schizophrenic how the hell has the world functioned if every single theist is schizophrenic. A handful of atheists that exist in the world have kept it going since beginning of time amazing. You guys must be really f****** tired. No wonder you're so angry and bitter. Have a Snickers and a nap.
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What does original sin have to do with kin punishment. Kin punishment has to do with the fact that most places didn't have established legal systems where people that have done something wrong could be punished. This is one of those I don't have anything else to post but I want to post something cuz I want a b**** about it so let's come up with something stupid and relate them to one another.
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Just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder so proof of gods. There's no actual factual, archaeological proof that any gods exist other than signs of worship. If you require proof to believe you do not have faith and are not a true believer, sorry but you're not. Any and all proof that any gods exist are based on personal experience of the believer and while those personal experiences can be shared with other people who have had those similar experiences, and agree with someone and form a religious group around those beliefs that is not proof anyone outside of those personal experiences. Your proof is not even proof to someone who believes the same as you and practices the same religion you do because their experience, while similar, is not exactly the same.
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Feel free to pass it on to Iceland. Seem their atheists are dumber than theists. Better tell them to shape up.
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WTF does this have to do with religion.
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@Tarik
The only interest is spouting hate at theists. It's what makes them special in their book.
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There is always the atheist pagans, lol.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
LOL All you guys do here is complain about how Christians are in your life and ruining the world, but now you've brought them to heal. Get over yourself, you are a narcissistic, power hungry little man who thinks because he calls himself a gnostic he is somehow better than the atheist and the Christians.
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Atheist love telling people what to do, even other atheists. LOL Some people actually like interacting with others face to face.
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@Lunar108
Polytheist religions aren't like that and they usually don't have holy books.
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All gods exists so each religion is true for those gods. Religion isn't meant to be universal. No god created the universe. Just their world or worlds.
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