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@Lunatic
Earth's role is a bit scary and can't really be verified as Town vs. Mafia aligned. But if it disables at Mylo/Lylo then I suppose it doesn't need to be a policy chop.
Oh I see it. Yeah this is a bit sus. I'd like a character claim in this case. Chance are it is a bigger character than he thought, but if it isn't that is a bit odd. Cerulean can you at least answer if your character is on my list?
Main Characters Likely to exist:Main Protagonists:Eragon: I would be surprised if Eragon wasn't in the game as he is literally the protagonist of the books. He's the first person to bind to a dragon since the fall of dragons.Roran: Leader of the Caravahall resistence, Eragon's cousing. A complete Fvcking badass and my favorite character in the books. "Stronghammer". Wields a basic blacksmith hammer but destroys everything he comes into contact with. Doesn't have powers like Eragon to be a complete badass.Saphira: Eragon's dragon, can communicate with him telepathically. Can do basically anything a dragon can do. Likely in the game.Brom: Brom is like the Gandalf of this series, there is a very high chance he is in the game. He teaches Eragon Magic, and mentors him. It's also later revealed that he is actually Eragon's father as a big plot twist. He dies fairly early on in the first book, but is still likely to be in the game with how prominent he is.Arya: Eragon's love interest, she is the daughter of Queen Islanzadi.She accompanies Eragon through most of his adventures. I think she rejects him due to an age gap initially despite having feelings for him. She is like 100s of years old of and hes literally a prebuscent teenager. She's a badass in combat too if I remember correctly.Big Side Characters:Orik- King of dwarvesOromis- Eragon's second mentorNasuada- Daughter of Ajihad, leader of the Varden after he father dies.Angela- A Fortune telling time space and dimension traveling witch, who has a cat and gives Eragon a big hint to his future early in book 1.
My character is not anywhere on that list.
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@Mharman
Why's that? If our roles are closely tied to our characters, then it stands to reason that the evil players also have roles that are closely tied to their characters. So if we can peg some likely characters, we might get a good idea of what sort of evil roles there are to deal with.I absolutely hate how his role speculation idea
Is that what makes me feel "off" to you, or something else?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@WyIted
Vaguely irritated at the existence of 2 0-posters almost a full Day in... Where are you two?
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@AustinL0926
It means you can't really coordinate on what roles/characters to ask about. Coming up with a fake claim very often tends to be a collaborative experience for the whole Mafia team, so giving them a guess & check mechanic like that while they're split up seems like a weird choice, design-wise. Not 100% totally out of the question, but I feel that it makes the scenario significantly less likely.Hypothetically, what would stop an independent mafia from simply asking Pie, and being informed if their partner had already used questions? It's an interesting point by Casey but I'm curious why it made you drop the idea in particular.
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@Casey_Risk
Oh, I did forget about that. Seems fairly conclusive unless we want to make assumptions about how that would be run with independent Mafia, then.
a 7-2-1 isn't out of the question
We only have 9.
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My character and role are also very closed tied together.
It might be worthwhile to say if our characters are on the "Important Characters" list here. I ask specifically because mine isn't. This might narrow some things down.
Regarding the Secret Hitler similarity. I don't believe in this as much as I did last night, but I noticed this line from the Inheriwiki page about Durza, who seems like a potential Mafia-aligned character:
This has me wondering if we might have a gimmick at play which could involve evils not having full information- like lacking a factional chat or not mutually knowing each other's identities immediately.
Just want to throw that out there. We might want to keep an eye out for codes, if this is a realistic possibility.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
...Hm.
Has anyone here played Secret Hitler before? I promise this is relevant. I'll elaborate later.
ADOL, how are you feeling about the game, at the moment? Open question, answer with however much specificity you'd like. If you have any questions about how the game works, feel free to ask the thread.
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Evening, all. I haven't read this series, but I'll take some time to look it up in more detail later. It would definitely be worthwhile to see if we can at least speculate on what Mafia might have access to, role-wise.
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This is the link to the scum chat, if anyone is interested in what was going on there.
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@whiteflame
The Mafia had these factional abilities:
Factional Attack: Target a player during the Night. You will attempt to kill them. This ability is assigned and trackable.
Factional Anti-Claim Roleblock: Target a player during the Night and identify an album. If your correctly identified your target's album, you will roleblock them and be told it was correct. This ability may not target the same player successfully two Nights in a row. This ability is assigned and trackable.
They did indeed have an Anti-Claim, but it was fairly weak, since it was assigned/trackable, each one of them could only take one factional action per night, and it specifically required an album claim, not just a role. The threat of anti-claim was more important in my design intentions than the anti-claim itself being powerful.
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I'll write a more complete discussion of the roles and the game overall later. As for right now, I await the Town players (Mharman) yelling at me for including Lunatic's role.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Endgame.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
Endgame.
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Night Actions:
Night 1:
Casey I give you all you need to know (Janitor) -> Pie
WyIted Neighborize -> Casey
Earth Doctor -> Austin
Austin Strengthen -> Mharman
Whiteflame Ability Check -> Earth
Pie Factional Kill -> Casey
Pie Commutes
Lunatic Rewrite -> Mharman
(Feedback changed from
"You were targeted by Austin!
You were targeted by Lunatic!"
to
"You were targeted by Austin!
You were targeted by WyIted!")
Night 2:
Austin Strengthen -> Lunatic
Whiteflame Cop -> Pie
Pie Factional Kill -> Earth
Pie Redirect -> Austin to Whiteflame
Lunatic Rewrite -> Whiteflame
(Feedback changed from
"Your target is Mafia-aligned!"
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"Your target is Town-aligned")
(It's unfortunate that Whiteflame didn't notice the lack of punctuation in his Night 2 result, which effectively outed Pie. That might have shaken up that last Day quite a bit.)
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With the concession of the last member of the Mafia, the Town has won!
The already-deceased:
Greyparrot (Town Treestump)
Casey (Town Nightmarish God)
WyIted (Town Miller + Neighborizer)
Earth (Town Odd Night Doctor)
Casey's full role is flipped:
You are The Downward Spiral! https://open.spotify.com/album/7a7arAXDE0BiaMgHLhdjGF?si=gS9WxzqhTGqsd6BAuM7ypQ
This 1994 album, released by the Nine Inch Nails, reflects, well, a downward spiral. The mentality of the "main character" of the album gets worse and worse throughout, eventually ending in his suicide. He suffers from increasingly harmful delusions. As a result, you are the Town Nightmarish God.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
Delusions (Compulsive, 6-shot): You must choose one of the following actions and a target each Night. Each action may only be used once, and you will be informed what each action did afterward.
I am the hate you try to hide (1-shot): For the Day after you use this ability, your target becomes Hated. It takes one less vote than majority to eliminate them. Your target is notified of this status.
I am the silencing machine (1-shot): For the Day after you use this ability, your target may only post 10 times. After their 10th post, the player can only post to change/place votes.
I am the lover in your bed (1-shot): Your target is roleblocked.
I give you all you need to know (1-shot): If your target dies during the Night this is used, their flip will be hidden the next Day. It will be revealed the Day after that.
I am the truth from which you run (1-shot): If your target does not visit anyone during the Night this is used, they will receive a list of two names, at least one of which is guaranteed to be Mafia-aligned.
I am denial, guilt, and fear (1-shot): Your target will not receive any feedback on this Night, except for feedback notifying them of a restriction/requirement for the next Day.
Eliminated Day 3:
Who needs please when we've got guns?
Who needs peace when we've gone above
But beyond where we should have gone?
Lunatic
You are Sleeping Through The Static! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_krdoBB_U9y3KoTSn_yVT8bsKfB2udhDnM
This 2008 album by Jack Johnson touches on some heavy themes, like climate change and war. It performed very well, setting several records, such as the most iTunes downloads in a single day. One of the major topics in the album is how people will often simply live in willful ignorance of important topics- or "Sleeping Through The Static." Because of the callout of this ignorance, you are the Mafia Feedback Rewriter.
Your goal is to reach parity with Town-aligned players and eliminate any other players who wish to see the Mafia lose.
You have the following abilities. You may use one of your abilities in addition to one Factional ability per Night:
Or You Can Sleep Through The Static (2-shot): Target a player. You will see the feedback they would have received tonight, and may rewrite it however you wish. You cannot remove or alter feedback that would notify your target of a restriction or requirement for their posting the following Day phase.
Conceded:
He was like a flowing wind
He was like a flying kite
Pie
You are 3 Idiots! https://open.spotify.com/album/7shstgp8BAiSrFryJu4K8I
This 2009 Indian dramedy performed extremely well, as the highest-grossing Indian film at the time. But that's the film, what about its soundtrack? The music goes through quite a variety, from the peppy "Aal Izz Well" to the more somber "Behti Hawa Sa Tha Woh." Because of these contrasting songs throughout the soundtrack, you are the Mafia JOAT.
Your goal is to reach parity with Town-aligned players and eliminate any other players who wish to see the Mafia lose.
You have the following abilities. You may use one of your abilities in addition to one Factional ability per Night:
Aal Izz Well (1-shot): If you use this ability, any abilities that target you tonight will fail, giving no feedback.
He Always Made His Own Paths (1-shot): Choose two targets. If the first target tried to visit someone tonight, they will instead visit your second target.
As My Heart Jives Along (3-shot): Target a player. During the next Day, they will be forced to include a snippet (at least eight consecutive words) from a song in their album in one of their posts. If the target's album is not in English, an English translation may be used to satisfy this.
Won:
I'm playful with it, yeah, basically
Too great to mimic, you hate, you're bitter
Mharman
You are Clouds! https://open.spotify.com/album/7eQGtkzCgrIWDOe76E9F8t
This mixtape was released by NF in 2021. Several of the songs throughout are about NF's personal journey in the rap world, along with a narrative called "STORY." Because of the introspection involved in this album, you are the Town Insomniac.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
Stick To My Guns, I Don't Even Flinch (Passive): If you are targeted during the Night, you will know who targeted you. You will not be told what they did.
Won:
I am the storm, I am the storm
I am the storm so wait
Whiteflame
You are Beneath the Skin! https://open.spotify.com/album/2mD97VgxTRfwB8F5tvkwrL
This 2015 album was the second album released by Of Monsters and Men. One member of the band talked about how, as their second album together, this one was improved by the band getting to know each other better and being able to get more personal with each other. Because of being able to get "beneath the skin" in such a way, you are the Town Investigative JOAT.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities. You may use one ability per Night:
I See It All So Clear (1-shot): Target a player. You will see the exact text of one ability they use tonight. If they used multiple, you will see the least incriminating one.
I Can See Through You (1-shot): Target a player. You will learn their alignment: Town, Mafia, or Other.
I'll Be The Hunter (1-shot): Target a player. You will be told who, if anyone, they visit tonight.
Won:
People held up the legends of bounty
Reaping the peace that they sowed
Austin
You are PARALLAX! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQzUaZGDJ80&list=PLCGBAij5Y0sRV_X4L2ipSeuQBIS758s2Y
This 2021 album was TheFatRat's first. This album has a lot- a love story, a war, giant mechs... In any case, the climax of the story arrives when the main character finally decides to stop running from a conflict and stand her ground. As a result, you are the Town Non-Consecutive Strengthener.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
We Won't Give In (Non-Consecutive, Unlimited use): Target a player during the Night. They cannot be redirected or roleblocked that Night. This ability cannot be used on the same player two Nights in a row.
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I have doubts. Maybe I've missed out, but most of the pictures I've seen of the shooter have been... lacking, at best- so how was he positively identified? I also find it unusual that he was still carrying the weapon. If he made it all the way to Pennsylvania, why didn't he dispose of it? Why still carry it around on his person?
Granted, maybe he's just stupid and got lucky killing the CEO in the first place. But it wouldn't surprise me if this is a frame job to create the appearance of competence, since a lot of this doesn't make sense from the shooter's perspective.
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@WyIted
I can lend you my alt, if you'd like.
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Also, I would have said this in the thread, but it appears to already be locked- the Albums Mafia game is over via concession. I will be posting the endgame thread in about 11 hours, after work.
Also, I would have said this in the thread, but it appears to already be locked- the Albums Mafia game is over via concession. I will be posting the endgame thread in about 11 hours, after work.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Day 3, FINAL VOTECOUNT
Whiteflame: 2 (Lunatic, Pie)
Lunatic: 3 (Whiteflame, Austin, Mharman)
Majority is 3.
Lunatic was eliminated! He was Guilty!
Send your Night Actions now. You have 24 hours to do so.
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Day 3, Votecount 5
Approximately 8 hours and 40 minutes remain.
Whiteflame: 1 (Lunatic)
Lunatic: 2 (Whiteflame, Mharman)
Majority is 3.
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The extension has been granted. So, the new deadline is 6:40 AM Eastern Time tomorrow, December 9th.
That's approximately 15 hours and 20 minutes from now.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Is there a way we can get an extension till like 10pm cst?
I typically only accept extension requests this late in the game if there's unanimous agreement. Especially because you've had three days.
As such, everyone, please message me if you are willing to accept a 12 hour extension, until 6:40 AM Eastern Time on the 9th. You are not permitted to discuss this request and subsequent vote in thread and should not use its success or failure for deduction.
Day 3, Votecount 4
Approximately 5 hours and 5 minutes remain. An additional 12 hours will be added if the extension vote succeeds.
Whiteflame: 1 (Lunatic)
Lunatic: 1 (Whiteflame)
Majority is 3.
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Day 3, Votecount 3
Approximately 11 hours and 35 minutes remain.
Approximately 11 hours and 35 minutes remain.
It's quiet. Nobody has placed any votes.
Majority is 3.
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Insider trading is absolutely not "victimless." Imagine if John Insider had info that a company he has a major investment in is going to send out a press release about some disaster. If he sells all his shares, there would be people buying those shares, yes? And those people might not be buying those shares at that price if they knew about the upcoming disastrous press release. Those people would be harmed by John Insider's trading then, would they not?
Lets say I walk by a horse and notice he has an erect penis.
You describe this like it's public information- anyone could walk by that horse and notice that detail. That's different from information that's being intentionally kept under wraps, so your metaphor doesn't work.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Day 3, Votecount 2
Approximately 23 hours and 40 minutes remain.
Approximately 23 hours and 40 minutes remain.
It's quiet. Nobody has placed any votes.
Majority is 3.
Mentioning all alive as your reminder that less than a day remains.
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Day 3, Votecount 1
Approximately 48 hours remain.
Approximately 48 hours remain.
It's quiet. Nobody has placed any votes.
Majority is 3.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Day 3.
Is this the end, or a new beginning?
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The already deceased:
Greyparrot (Town Treestump)
Casey (Town Nightmarish God)
Eliminated Day 2:
So just leave me alone, girl (Leave me alone, leave me alone)
Leave me alone
WyIted
This 1987 album by Michael Jackson was anything but bad. It sold over 2 million copies in its first week and reached number one on the charts in many countries. The songs themselves vary slightly, touching on themes of romance... but also paranoia and worry. As a result, you are the Town Miller + Neighborizer.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
Keep You By My Side (1-shot): Target a player during the Night. Starting at the beginning of the next Day, and lasting until one of you dies, you will have a private chat with that player which is open on all phases.
Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad (Passive): If you are targeted by an alignment investigation, you will appear as Mafia-aligned.
Killed Night 2:
And screaming
Am I too lost
To be saved?
Am I too lost?
Earth
This was the debut studio album by Evanescence, released in 2003. With over 17 million units sold, it's one of the most successful albums of the 21st century (by that metric, anyway). Amy Lee, one of the members of Evanescence, explained that the point of it was that everyone goes through bad times, so nobody is alone in that. As such, you are the Town Odd Night Doctor.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
I Know I Can Stop The Pain (Unlimited use, Odd Nights only): Target a player on an Odd Night. If they are attacked, you will prevent their death. Neither you nor your target will receive feedback if you prevent their death.
ALIVE:
Mharman
Pie
Lunatic
Austin
Whiteflame
The Day phase will last until 6:40 PM Eastern Time on December 8th, or a little over 72 hours from this post. The Day will end early if a player is eliminated with a majority vote.
With 5 players alive, the majority is 3 votes.
I have no witty quip for you this Day. Good luck. You'll need it.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
Day 2, FINAL VOTECOUNT
WyIted: 4 (Mharman, Pie, Earth, WyIted)
Majority is 4.
WyIted was eliminated! He was Innocent!
Send your Night Actions now. You have 24 hours to do so.
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WyIted lynch is locked in. I won't be able to do the ending post for a few hours, since I'm on mobile.
Somebody ask the mod if somebody compulsively visits themselves if they could be redirected to somebody else or if the redirection would fail
I will not answer this specific question, but in general, a question of "Is X possible?" Is very likely to be answered with "Yes," considering this is a closed setup. The array of roles possible, while not infinite, is very, very large.
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Day 2, Votecount 1
Approximately 61 hours and 20 minutes remain.
WyIted: 3 (Mharman, Pie, Whiteflame)
Mharman: 1 (WyIted)
Majority is 4.
I've received questions in messages such that I would like to remind everyone to read the Day 1 OP and the flips carefully.
Approximately 61 hours and 20 minutes remain.
WyIted: 3 (Mharman, Pie, Whiteflame)
Mharman: 1 (WyIted)
Majority is 4.
I've received questions in messages such that I would like to remind everyone to read the Day 1 OP and the flips carefully.
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Eliminated Day 1:
What a fool believes, he sees
Greyparrot
You are Minute by Minute! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyyQ46HvRjk&list=PLbouzmFCyUKZe7y82Q5Qze1s0agjHfdwA
This was the eighth studio album released by the Doobie Brothers, coming out in 1978. The album received massive recognition and contained the band's most popular song, "What a Fool Believes." Less known, however, is the titular song of the album, which describes holding onto something that maybe shouldn't be held onto. Because of this, you are the Town Treestump.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
I'll Keep Holding On (Passive): If you are killed during the Night, you will not fully die until the end of the following Day. You will be unable to vote or use any Day actions, but you will be allowed to post as much as you want. You can be voted as the Day elimination in this state. Your death will not be revealed, nor will your role be flipped, until the Day ends.
Killed Night 1:
A lifetime of fucking things up fixed
in one determined flash
Casey
You are The Downward Spiral! https://open.spotify.com/album/7a7arAXDE0BiaMgHLhdjGF?si=gS9WxzqhTGqsd6BAuM7ypQ
This 1994 album, released by the Nine Inch Nails, reflects, well, a downward spiral. The mentality of the "main character" of the album gets worse and worse throughout, eventually ending in his suicide. He suffers from increasingly harmful delusions. As a result, you are the Town Nightmarish God.
Your goal is to eliminate all Mafia-aligned players and any other players who wish to see the Town lose.
You have the following abilities:
Delusions (Compulsive, 6-shot): You must choose one of the following actions and a target each Night. Each action may only be used once, and you will be informed what each action did afterward.
- I am the hate you try to hide
- I am the silencing machine
- I am the lover in your bed
- I give you all you need to know
- I am the truth from which you run
- I am denial, guilt and fear
ALIVE:
WyIted
Mharman
Pie
Earth
Lunatic
Austin
Whiteflame
Mharman
Pie
Earth
Lunatic
Austin
Whiteflame
The Day phase will last until 7:40 PM Eastern Time on December 6th, or a little over 72 hours from this post. The Day will end early if a player is eliminated with a majority vote.
With 7 players alive, the majority is 4 votes.
Try not to have your own Downward Spiral.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
See above. Whiteflame, please close the thread.
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@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
Day 1, FINAL VOTECOUNT
Greyparrot: 5 (Whiteflame, Casey, Greyparrot, Pie, Mharman)
Lunatic: 1 (WyIted)
Whiteflame: 1 (Austin)
Majority is 5.
Greyparrot was eliminated! He was Innocent!
Send your Night Actions now. You have 24 hours to do so.
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Greyparrot elimination is locked in. I can't do the ending post right now, so you may continue discussing until I do.
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Day 1, Votecount 6
Approximately 30 minutes remain.
Earth: 2 (Pie, Mharman)
Greyparrot: 3 (Whiteflame, Casey, Greyparrot)
Lunatic: 1 (WyIted)
Whiteflame: 1 (Austin)
Majority is 5.
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Day 1, Votecount 5
Approximately 2 hours and 5 minutes remain.
Earth: 1 (Pie)
Greyparrot: 2 (Whiteflame, Casey)
Lunatic: 1 (WyIted)
WyIted: 2 (Mharman, Greyparrot)
Whiteflame: 1 (Austin)
Majority is 5.
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Day 1, Votecount 4
Approximately 4 hours remain.
Austin: 1 (Casey)
Earth: 1 (Pie)
Greyparrot: 1 (Whiteflame)
Lunatic: 1 (WyIted)
WyIted: 2 (Mharman, Greyparrot)
Majority is 5.
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Day 1, Votecount 3
Approximately 9 hours and 15 minutes remain.
Austin: 1 (Casey)
Earth: 1 (Pie)
Greyparrot: 1 (Mharman)
Lunatic: 1 (WyIted)
Majority is 5.
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Day 1, Votecount 2
Approximately 22 hours and 50 minutes remain.
Austin: 1 (Casey)
Pie: 1 (Austin)
Earth: 1 (Pie)
Majority is 5.
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Day 1, Votecount 1
Approximately 45 hours and 35 minutes remain.
WyIted: 1 (Pie)
Austin: 1 (Casey)
Pie: 3 (Austin, WyIted, Mharman)
Majority is 5.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
...or your sorrowful ballad of defeat.
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
I await your glorious march of victory...
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