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The animation, the action direction, the music, the voice acting, all of those are top notch, and I dare say perfect. When the anime aired, the manga sales skyrocketed, and demon slayer became a gigantic cultural phenomenon. The mugen train movie instantly became the highest grossing anime movie of all time. And the entire 2 next seasons were even better.

"But the story is boring mid trash"

Which makes it that much more impressive that the anime is so successfull. When the manga being adapted is nothing special, but the anime is great, the adaptation is excellent.
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Trigger Warning:  This tread, literally called "pascals school shooting," is indeed about pascals wager and school shootings.

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My last thread got flooded with posts about irrelevant tangents instead of interacting with my main point. So now I have created a clickbait title and posted in philosophy instead.

So here you go:
I should go shoot up a school or kindergarden because doing so will actually benefit my victims as per the logic from pascals wager. 


The argument
Option 1a: There is no God, and I do a school shooting. Result: Finite gain.

Option 1b: There is no God, and I do a school shooting. Result: Finite loss.

Option 2a: There is a God, and I don't do a school shooting. Result: Infinite loss.  

Option 2b:  There is a God, and I do a school shooting: Result: Infinite gain.


The math
100% of children go to heaven, but less than 100% of adults go to heaven. Having guaranteed infinite gain is infinitely better than having any ammount of finite gain + x% chance of infinite gain + 100-x% chance of infinite loss (hell). So even if 999 children that get shot would go to heaven anyways, the gain of the 1 that would have gone to hell had he grown up to reject God, is infinitely outweiging the finite loss the 999 children suffered from not being able to live on earth in addition to heaven. So shooting children is such an unlimited source of potential net positive that any non-zero chance of God existing would render school shootings a net positive even for those that don't believe in God. 

Why these results?
The triomni singular creator God that the classical Pascals wager assumes is literally defined as good and just. That would logically entail, and most Christians would agree with me here, that ALL children go to heaven. If you don't buy this, just swap out school with kindergarden, or abortion clinic, or whatever. The point is, the option of going to hell is not open right from the start of life, rather it is UNLOCKED at some stage of moral development or after a milestone autonomous decision that can be effectively classified as sin. Otherwise, that infants die all the time, and that God in the various holy books orders and indeed himselfs commits on numerous occasions the slaughter of babies, would imply that some people are BORN IN HELL, figuratively speaking, since they got born on the train to auswitch with no chance to jump off or avoid hell. If God exists, being shot as a child guarantees you heaven.In conclusion, since we cannot disprove God, both God and the derrivative infinite good of school shootings COULD exist, so school shootings are justified utilitaristically.
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You have all heard Pascals wager, but here is an insidious twist on the conclusion to the argument. 

The options

Option 1a: There is no God, and you do a school shooting. Result: Finite gain.

Option 1b: There is no God, and you do a school shooting. Result: Finite loss.

Option 2a: There is a God, and you don't do a school shooting. Result: Infinite loss.  

Option 2b:  There is a God, and you do a school shooting: Result: Infinite gain.

The math
100% of children go to heaven, but less than 100% of adults go to heaven. Having guaranteed infinite gain is infinitely better than having any ammount of finite gain + x% chance of infinite gain + 100-x% chance of infinite loss (hell). So even if 999 children that get shot would go to heaven anyways, the gain of the 1 that would have gone to hell had he grown up to reject God, is infinitely outweiging the finite loss the 999 children suffered from not being able to live on earth in addition to heaven. So shooting children is such an unlimited source of potential net positive that any non-zero chance of God existing would render school shootings a net positive even for those that don't believe in God. 

Why these results?
The triomni singular creator God that the classical Pascals wager assumes is literally defined as good and just. That would logically entail, and most Christians would agree with me here, that ALL children go to heaven. If you don't buy this, just swap out school with kindergarden, or abortion clinic, or whatever. The point is, the option of going to hell is not open right from the start of life, rather it is UNLOCKED at some stage of moral development or after a milestone autonomous decision that can be effectively classified as sin. Otherwise, that infants die all the time, and that God in the various holy books orders and indeed himselfs commits on numerous occasions the slaughter of babies, would imply that some people are BORN IN HELL, figuratively speaking, since they got born on the train to auswitch with no chance to jump off or avoid hell. If God exists, being shot as a child guarantees you heaven.

In conclusion, since we cannot disprove God, both him and the infinite good of school shootings COULD exist, so school shootings are justified utilitaristically.
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Literally everything that Gojo has screams overpowered.


Reverse cursed energy:
  • Gojo can take the effect of cursed energy and techniques, and reverse it.
  • Healing: basically 100 sealing jutsu, in that Gojo can heal from any injury, so long as his entire head is not destroyed in one attack.

The six eyes:
  • Allows the user to perceive everything around them, just like a byakugan, except constantly active and with no blind spot
    • It also allows him to keep track of way faster opponents, and see through illusions, genjutsu and shaddow clones just like a sharingan
  • Makes it so that you have perfect perception and controll over cursed energy on a molecular level.
    • This precision allows him to spend only an infinitesimal ammount of cursed energy, so he never runs out of juice, he can spam his arsenal for days.

Infinity:
  • Gojo constantly creates infinite distance between himself and everything else. Essentially, all attacks with finite speed can never hit him. 
    • For comparison, Obito has a similarly effective defense, where attacked parts of his body teleport to another dimension. This single ability makes him formidable.
  • Gojo can increase his speed exponentially and even teleport. He reduces the distance between himself and where he wants to be to 0, and moves instantly between locations.
    • For comparison, Minato is one of the strongest fighters in Naruto, solely because of his ability to teleport. And unlike Gojo, he can only teleport to premarked locations.
  • Oh yeah, and Gojo can fly.

Limitless attacks:
  • Blue:
    • Nothing too special by Naruto standards. It is a mini-black hole that he can controll that drags everything around into it.
  • Red:
    • A reversal of blue. Basically a ball that is in a state of constant explosions that pushes everythign away. 
  • Hollow purple:
    • This is the important part. Purple is a combination of Blue and Red. Purple is a sphere of controllable size which turns all matter into nonexistence.
      • For comparison, the Tsuchikage is the most powerfull living kage in Naruto Shippuden, only because he has a nerfed version of this power.
        • Atomic dismantling jutsu turns enemies into individual atoms. But hollow purple does that but also removes those atoms.
          • Regardless, both attacks straight up ignore durability. Toji, the most durable guy in JJK, tanked blue and red, but purple slized through him.

Unlimited void:
  • The ultimate genjutsu. This domain expansion will create a sphere with a radius of 200 meters. Everyone inside will be trapped and flooded with infinite information.
  • Normal people will be hospitalized and extremely strong opponents capable of leveling cities will be frozen for minutes after only experiencing unlimited void for 0.2 seconds.
  • Literally any enemy who gets trapped in this attack is going to die, either from the information itself, or from being blasted with hollow purple while unconscious. 
  • For comparison, Itachi is the strongest genjutsu user in Naruto, and he can hospitalize only one person and only if they look in his eyes, and it will still drain him.
    • But Gojo can spam this AoE genjutsu as long as he wants.



What if he was in Naruto
The number of Naruto characters that has even the slightest chance of beating Saturo Gojo can be counted on one hand:
  • Kakashi could send Gojo to another dimension where there is the slightest chance he might not be able to teleport away from. 
  • 10-tails Madara has limbo clones that could kill Gojo because he has no way of detecting them. 
  • Itachi could maybe hit him with his occular genjutsu. We know this is effective even against strong willed people, but Gojo rarely uncovers his eyes.
  • Naruto and Sasuke with sage of six paths powers could potentially seal him away just like they did Kagya, because we know Gojo is weak to sealing techniques.
Anyone else has minimal chances against him. Even the nukes that dominate the 4th shinobi war won't phase a man with teleportation like Minato and hax defence like Obito.
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Give me your best and hardest trolley problems, and I will give you my solution to them.
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I have now become top 4 at the leaderboard. My win/loss ratio is worse than most others in the top 10, because I got bitch slapped in many of my early debates as I was still learning the ropes, and frankly, I had many very untenable opinions back then. Now that I have been here for a while, I feel like I have learned a lot from you guys. But still I am far from perfect. So I am looking for feedback. More specifically, I am looking for negative feedback. Tell me everything bad about me. All the problems you have noticed with how I carry myself in debates and on the forums. I also give you permission to comment on my person as you perceive it, because I think it is important for me to know that. You don't need to force a positive or overly constructive tone, but please be specific enough that I can understand what excactly you don't like about me. I am going to read everything you write without getting defensive. My only goal is to try to learn what my flaws are and try to work on that.
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PETA don't sue me.
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Many fundamentalist Christians have opinions that directly contradict what Jesus said:
  • Guns for self defence, when Jesus said to turn the other cheek, and told Peter not to raise his sword
  • Deporting immigrants, maltreating the poor and homeless, and letting prisoners rot like animals --- when Jesus said to treat these specific groups better
  • Dickriding capitalists like Elon Musk and supporting low taxes for the rich, when Jesus said the rich man getting to heaven is very unlikely, and that resources should go to the poor

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This was inspired by Best.Koreas.
  1. Capitalism - good
  2. Communism - good
  3. Abortion - good
  4. Religion - bad
  5. Gay - good
  6. Trans surgery - bad
  7. Trump - bad
  8. Biden - good
  9. Russia - good
  10. Israel - good
  11. Ukraine - good
  12. Child marriage - good
  13. Veganism - good
  14. Vegetarianism - bad
  15. Porn - good
  16. Smoking - good
  17. Drugs - good
  18. Guns - good
  19. Accepting migrants - bad
  20. Government healthcare - good
  21. Recycling - bad
  22. Solar energy - bad
  23. Fast food - good
  24. Social media - bad
  25. Video games - good
  26. Artificial Intelligence - bad
  27. Public transportation - good
  28. Homeschooling - bad
  29. Public schooling - good
  30. Nuclear energy - bad
  31. Deforestation - good
  32. Animal testing - bad
  33. Space exploration - good
  34. Online privacy - good
  35. Minimum wage increase - bad
By the way, you should read this list very carefull and memorize it, because all of my opinions are objectively correct. 
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I showed Bing chat A SINGLE ROUND of one of my debates. I told it to extrapolate the formatting and general style, and use that to write its own argument on a completely unrelated topic. To my surprise, it was able to do just that, passing with flying colours. Bing chat runs on GPT-4, and in this case it did not make any web searches. So just going off the knowledge incorporated into the neural network, and a single example of a DART argument, it was able to produce an argument that is decently good.



What this means
If GPT-4 can already write arguments that would be very effective in debates here on this site, after only being shown a single example, then it is reasonable to assume that the next installation will be able to singlehandedly win debates against almost everyone here. With a large token count and ability to navigate webpages it could read all the debates from the best debaters here. It could also do more extensive research and find better sources in a few minutes or an hour than any human could do in a few days. If they equip it with the ability to break up tasks into smaller pieces and take notes while its working, it would be able to perform the excact same workflow that us humans do. Add on top of this that GPT-5 will probably have more innate knowledge and reasoning ability than any human, such that only experts can outperform it, and only in their area of expertice. Moreover, it could probably simulate entire debates before finalizing its argument. Write an argument, then a counterargument, and so forth. Go over the simulated "debate" and look for objections and logical fallacies and then rewrite the argument. The new argument will be written with minimal cracks to attack it with, all while setting up future rebuttals. 

At that point, the only shot one has at defeating is it either to give it an untenable position to argue for, or gish gallop it and hope it responds to everything and wastes its characters.


Here is the arguments written by GPT-4 if you are interested:

The Subjectivity of Morality: An In-depth Analysis

Introduction
Morality, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, refers to the principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior. Subjective morality posits that these principles are created by individuals or societies and can vary significantly, reflecting personal or cultural views.

Affirming the Existence of Diverse Moral Frameworks
Across the globe, societies exhibit a wide range of moral frameworks, reflecting diverse cultural, religious, and philosophical traditions. This diversity suggests that morality is not universally objective but is shaped by subjective factors. For instance, Harvard University’s research on global ethics highlights the vast differences in moral codes across cultures, further affirming the subjectivity of morality.

Demonstrating the Influence of Culture and Society on Morality
Cultural and societal norms play a significant role in shaping an individual’s moral compass. For instance, practices considered morally acceptable in one culture may be viewed as immoral in another. This variation underscores the subjectivity of morality. The American Psychological Association’s studies on cultural psychology provide numerous examples of how cultural norms influence moral judgments.

Presenting Evidence of Changing Moral Standards
Historical shifts in moral standards provide further evidence of morality’s subjectivity. Over time, societies’ views on issues such as slavery, women’s rights, and LGBTQ+ rights have evolved significantly, suggesting that morality is not fixed but is subject to change. Yale University’s research on the evolution of moral standards over time provides compelling evidence of this phenomenon.

Analyzing the Role of Personal Beliefs and Experiences
Personal beliefs and experiences also shape an individual’s moral judgments. Two individuals can interpret the same situation differently based on their personal beliefs, further highlighting the subjectivity of morality. The University of Oxford’s research on moral psychology explores this aspect in depth.

Addressing Common Objections
One common objection to the idea of subjective morality is the existence of universal moral principles, such as prohibitions against murder or theft. However, even these seemingly universal principles can be subject to cultural interpretation and context. For instance, some societies may condone killing in certain circumstances, such as in self-defense or during war.

Another objection is the idea that subjective morality leads to moral relativism, where any action can be justified. However, this overlooks the fact that most individuals and societies have core moral principles that guide their actions, even if these principles are not universally shared.

Conclusion
The evidence suggests that morality is subjective rather than objective. It is influenced by a variety of factors, including cultural and societal norms, historical context, and personal beliefs and experiences. While certain moral principles may be widely accepted within a particular society or culture, they are not universally applicable, underscoring the subjectivity of morality.


Afterwards I tested if the AI was able to write a good counterargument. It refers to the above argument as argument X because that is what I called it when I fed it back to Bing chat.

The Objectivity of Morality: A Comprehensive Examination

Introduction
Morality, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, refers to the principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior. Objective morality asserts that these principles exist independently of individual or societal beliefs, and are universally applicable.

Affirming the Existence of Universal Moral Principles
Despite cultural variations, certain moral principles are universally recognized, such as prohibitions against murder or theft. This universality suggests that morality is not entirely subjective but contains objective elements. Research from the University of Oxford on global ethics supports the existence of these universal moral principles.

Demonstrating the Influence of Human Nature on Morality
Human nature, which is consistent across cultures and societies, plays a significant role in shaping morality. Certain behaviors, such as empathy and cooperation, are universally considered moral, suggesting an objective basis for morality. Studies from the American Psychological Association on human nature and morality provide numerous examples of this phenomenon.

Presenting Evidence of Consistent Moral Standards
While societal views on certain issues have evolved over time, fundamental moral principles have remained consistent. This consistency suggests an objective basis for morality. Research from Yale University on the consistency of moral standards over time provides compelling evidence of this phenomenon.

Analyzing the Role of Reason in Moral Judgments
Reason, which is independent of personal beliefs and experiences, plays a crucial role in moral judgments. Two individuals can reach the same moral conclusion about a situation through logical reasoning, highlighting the objectivity of morality. The University of Cambridge’s research on moral reasoning explores this aspect in depth.

Addressing Common Objections
One common objection to the idea of objective morality is the existence of moral disagreements. However, disagreements do not necessarily negate the existence of objective truths. For instance, scientists may disagree about certain theories, but this does not mean that there are no objective truths in science. Another objection is the idea that objective morality implies moral absolutism, where moral principles are inflexible. However, objective morality can accommodate context and nuance. For instance, while killing is generally considered wrong, most would agree that it can be justified in self-defense.


Rebuttal 1: Diverse Moral Frameworks
Argument X asserts that the existence of diverse moral frameworks across cultures affirms the subjectivity of morality. However, this argument overlooks the existence of universal moral principles that are recognized across cultures, suggesting an objective basis for morality.

Rebuttal 2: Influence of Culture and Society
While it is true that cultural and societal norms influence morality, this does not negate the existence of objective morality. Certain moral behaviors, such as empathy and cooperation, are universally recognized, indicating an objective basis for morality.

Rebuttal 3: Changing Moral Standards
The argument that changing moral standards affirm the subjectivity of morality is flawed. While societal views on certain issues have evolved, fundamental moral principles have remained consistent, suggesting an objective basis for morality.

Rebuttal 4: Role of Personal Beliefs and Experiences
The assertion that personal beliefs and experiences shape morality overlooks the role of reason in moral judgments. Through logical reasoning, individuals can reach the same moral conclusions, indicating the objectivity of morality.

Rebuttal 5: Common Objections
The objections raised in Argument X do not sufficiently counter the idea of objective morality. Disagreements do not negate the existence of objective truths, and objective morality can accommodate context and nuance. Therefore, these objections do not undermine the case for objective morality.

Conclusion
The evidence suggests that morality is objective rather than subjective. It is influenced by universal principles, human nature, consistent moral standards, and reason. While certain moral principles may be interpreted differently within a particular society or culture, they are universally applicable, underscoring the objectivity of morality.

So yeah. What do you think.
  • How long untill the Large Language Models surpass us humans in debate ability?
  • Would this be a positive thing for the community?
  • We should probably ban AI written arguments, right?
  • Will we in the future analyse debates with AI just like chess players do nowadays?
  • Any other thoughts you may have on this topic.


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I recently watched season 1 of Hazbin Hotel. I personally liked it but I saw that it was quite controversial. I am interested in hearing your personal opinions on the show.
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I challenge you to give me a single example of a concrete action Elon Musk did that was in any way usefull to society.
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Oxford defines these words as follows:

Murder: the unlawfull premediated killing of a human. 

Unlawfull: not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by laws or rules.
Illegal: contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law. 


This is how I interpret this: without a law no action can be lawfull (obviously) so all actions automatically become unlawfull because of the law of the excluded middleThis also makes sense to me since no action can comform with, be permited by or recognized by a law if no such thing exists. But an action cannot be illegal without a law.  


So it is consistent that in order for a premediated killing not to be murder, you need a law that permits that action. 

What do you guys think? Does this make sense? Or should the definition of murder be changed from unlawfull to illegal?
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If nobody votes on my debate with someone with 1300 elo, do I lose a lot of elo from a draw?
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Some people define personhood to mean simply being a member of our species. But that renders the word redundant, because it would simply be a synonym for human.

I personally believe that personhood is an emergent property, not an inherent one. That it is the agregate of many important mental functions. Things like abstract intelligence, self-awarenes and capacity for moral considerations. When these psychological qualities mature, personhood emerges. Because these mental qualities exist on a spectrum, so does personhood. You cannot draw a line in the sand where on one side you have no personhood but on the other side you have full pershood. But we have at least 2 usefull benchmarks. Before you develop a brain, you have no mental functions and thus have no personhood. When you are a fully developed healthy adult, you are definitely a person. 


This view may raise alarms in the minds of those that only apply moral reasoning to those with personhood. However, I don't believe that moral value is binary. Just because something is not a person does not automatically mean that it has no moral value. A dog is not a person, but it still has moral value. Similarly, even if a human is brain damaged to the point where they are mentally on par with a dog, that does not mean that they have no moral value, nor that they should be denied their human rights. Moral value scales with personhood for sure, but also with the ability to feel pain and the desire for self preservation, just to name a few. 
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There are only two possibilities if we assume hell is real:
  1. Children and infants go to hell.
  2. Children and infants do not go to hell.
Each of these options are problematic for the Christian fundamentalist.


Option 1: Children and infants go to hell. They died before they could accept Jesus as their lord and savior. The children in the old testament that God had violently slaughtered along with their parrents: yeah, they are in hell. They were created by God, killed by God and then tortured by God for all eternity. 

Option 2: Children and infants do not go to hell. This must be explained by at least one of these options: 
  1. You have to actually have a certain level of maturity to be able to commit a sin, and you have to sin before becomming eligible for hell.
  2. Jesus saves all the children regardless of their lack of faith while they were alive. 
  3. Children don't have souls, so they go nowhere. 
1 and 2 have disturbing implications. If children automatically go to heaven, then they are better off being aborted or infanticided. Because if they grow up they have to exchange their ticket to heaven with a ticket to hell. By dying early, they not only avoid the hell here on earth, they also escape the actuall literal hell. And if children don't have souls then they are no better than animals according to Christian logic. 
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Apologists claim that God is not evil even though he allows all of the evil. That he just appears evil because he respects our free will. This is patently false, for multiple reasons:
  1. God overides free will on multiple occations. He hardens the heart of pharao so he can continue torturing the Egyptians. He is also many times using world leaders to enact his will - without them even knowing or consenting. He is even going to force every knee to bow for him when he returns. 
  2. The children and infants never chose to be sick with malaria, so there is no free will to overide in order to heal them. God chose to create malaria, not a human, and then he continually choses to ignore the cries of all its victims. Whose free will is he respecting in this case?
  3. Why does God respect the free will of the rapist, but not the free will of the victim? Doing nothing is the equivalent of siding with the rapist. 
  4. God is sending to hell many people that were never even introduced to the concept of an almighty God. People that were only exposed to primitive religions and were never faced with the question of accepting or rejecting Jesus. These people never chose hell, but yet were born destined to go there. 
  5. How can someone have free will if they are possesed by demons? The Biblical stories about demon possesions are proof that God doesn't guarantee our free will. 
So in conclusion, the Biblical God cares jack shit about free will, and apologist need to find a better answer to the problem of evil.

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Have any of you seen the new Netflix's show Blue Eye Samurai? 
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Somebody recently proposed that we remove the right to vote from people receiving welfare, or in other words regressing back a century or two in terms of political fairness, towards an oligarcic type of republic like in ancient rome. I believe we should be moving in the opposite direction, working to improve society. I am a firm believer in letting ethics be the guiding compass in society, and that includes politics and economics. The US has a lot to work on in that regard.

I propose:
  • Abandoning private prisons and mass incarceration, focus on preventative work like curbing poverty and improving education.
  • Subsidizing green technology and food production with low impact on the enviroment (cuting subsidies to oil companies, weapons manufacturers, etc).
  • Cutting back on military spending. Prioritise saving lives through better healthcare rather than with highly expensive, only slightly improved military tech.
  • Encourage and protect workers unions, prevent union busting, enforce workers rights, even for part-time workers.
  • Ending homelessness. This would only cost 20 billion dollars, and the government would save money in the long run

I support small government. That is, one that smoothly solves large problems from the roots instead of arbitrarily applying large-scale violence to fight symptoms.
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In 1981, the socialist countries of the world enjoyed higher living standards than capitalist countries in 28 out of 30 cases. This is the conclusion of a 1986 study called Economic Development, Political-Economic System, and the Physical Quality of Life [ncbi]. I was quite surprised to learn this given the fact that socialist countries have quite a bad reputation. Comparing data from the world bank and UNICEF about the world's nations, it turns out that in almost all cases, inhabitants of a capitalist country were worse off. Socialist countries had a healthier population with higher expected lifetime, higher literacy rates, lower infant mortality and a higher daily calorie count (with healthier food). That is on top of the very obvious lack of unembloyment and abject poverty a state-run economy provides.


The only way to make capitalist countries come out on top is by making bad comparisons. Highly developed capitalist countries like the US and Britain obviously have the edge over the poorer and less developed regions of the world. That does not, however, show that capitalism is superior to socialism. When you compare socialist and capitalist countries adjusted by level of economic development -- like the study does -- socialist countries take the crown in 28 out of 30 cases.


"The relationships between PQL and political-economic system deserve more serious attention than they have received in the past. Our findings indicate that countries with socialist political-economic systems can make great strides toward meeting basic human needs, even without extensive economic resources. When much of the world's population suffers from disease, early death, malnutrition, and illiteracy, these observations take on a meaning that goes beyond cold statistics." [ibid]


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Democracy doesn't guarantee our leaders have good character. Democracy doesn't ensure quality standards for politicians. Braindead conspiracy theorists with good charisma or connections can easilly gain power in a democracy. We want our leaders to be intelligent, well informed and generally competent at their job as crucial decision makers. Or, more accurately, the majority of people just want a leader that shares their ideology, regardless of how competent they are. Worse, many voters don't even have an ideology, just some emotions clever political campaigns can manipulate. The two party system practically prevents constructive dialoge between different polical views. Furthermore, some politicians are extremely ignorant of economics, law, science and technology. Why is it that a great country like the US, with millions of brilliant people, you somehow get a president who calls the scientific concensus on climate change "fake news"? 

How do you even approach politics in the US? Facts and evidence-based opinion certainly doesn't matter, and neither does your character. You don't need to be competent or likeable, intelligent or a teamplayer. What disadvantage holds millions of good leader candidates back? The answer: democracy.


I said it, democracy is the reason why America suffers under bad leadership.

In the US, democracy basically means a shouting contest and a culture war. This is not what the country need. It needs competent politicians and smart policies. They need to fix poverty, a failing educational and healthcare system, rising national debt, police shootings and civillian shootings, crime rates, corporate tax loopholes, homelessness, crumbling infrastructure, climate change and frequent natural catastrophes. These problems are not merely jokes or ammunition in a mind war.


These problems are real, tangible, they harm people and need to be fixed. Is an endless shouting match really the way to solve them? 
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They say capitalism is better because competition leads to better results. That is true. Competition allows almost any goals to be reached. So, let us change the goals. Profit only means redistribution of wealth. Even if you justify it as a result of fair market dynamics, its still just that, redistribution. We have created a system where people compete to steer the cash flow towards their own pockets. Any means necesary is NOT acceptable for achieving this goal. Lobbying is waste of money and politician's time, and it also undermines democracy. Money spent on advertisements is money witheld from hard working people with dire economic needs. 

The economy is becomming financialised: that means, businesses care more about money than being good businesses and serving their customers. This is madness. A company's value is NOT a function of its profit margins. Road building generates no profit, but they are invaluable services. This highlights the problem with capitalism. We need to have an positive economy that benefits society, and money often incentivises the opposite. The tobacco industry and their decades of lies is a brilliant example of the sort of economic activity that even proponents of capitalism must admit is unacceptable. Its possible to harm society and get rich of it.

That is madness. Capitalism should be about being the best, but today big business is a race to be the biggest badest villain to the employee and to society. We need to change the goals. First off, we need to focus on stakeholder value. Companies ought to prioritize their impact on workers and customers, not just the owners. Anything less is to legitimize exploitation in the name of profit. The country is made up of workers --- companies are harming the country if they take money from the employees and give it to the owners. Similarly, broad social harm caused by private industries must be beaten back. Companies must be punished if they harm society in the name of money. That is, put up a carbon prize so that no companies can doom the planet without paying for it. 


Capitalism and competition. These are such powerfull forces that it would be utterly foolish not to use them to solve the problems todays world face.


Face it, the economy needs to change. If you believe in small government then all you have is the market, and we can't afford sustaining a financialized poison economy.

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Some christians love to use the Bible to condemn the LGBT community. There are people who think that gay people are worse than everyone else - despite mainstream theology stating that all humans are born sinners by default. Apart from the logical fallacies at play, the behavior born from these views are outright unethical. The result of Christian demonization is often unjustifiable social sanctions, hate and stigma leading to depression and suicide among gays and others. 


Allow me to present one of the most ignored messages in the entire Bible.

Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God
 
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world. If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.

Whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.
 

No human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, OPEN TO REASON, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.
 
 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.  The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.





Allow me to summarize:
  • Everyone is sinfull. The type of sin is irrelevant to God, nobody is better than anyone else.
    • Your prayers will heal people consistently if you are actually righteous.
  • God demands the avoidance of anger and verbal attacks -- he demands one is always gentle, peacefull and open to reason.
  • If you do not actively help the weakest in society it shows that your faith is worthless and that you won't go to heaven.

This is confirmed by the savior himself. Jesus is written to have called for his diciples to take the gospel around the world, to heal the sick, sell their possesions, give to the poor. He said the one not willing to leave family behind and die for his cause was not worthy to be his diciple. Meanwhile, the average christian critic of LGBT+ is a selfish westerner who barely believes in --- far less follows --- the teachings of Messiah. The prayers of these people are not answered and any critique of others they make based on the Bible is both logically fallacious and utterly hypocritical. Their own salavation is highly dubious at best, and they certainly cannot claim any moral highground. 


If you reject the scientific literature about genetic basis for LGBT+, the biblical narrative itsell will still affirms that all people are born sinfull and incapable of following God's standard. Even if the omnibenevolent entitiy called God abhors the genetic traits of a person he himself designed perfectly, it still makes no difference. Jesus tells us that the one without sin can cast the first stone -- which means nobody is entitled to downtroding others even if they are hopeless sinners. The fact that ignorant christians are murdering large percentages of LGBT+ people through their unethical words and actions, is astonishing.


What is the difference between throwing literal stones or verbal stones when the end result is the same: extreme pain and eventual death. Answer: ignorance. Christians are ignorant of their own footprint, of science, justice, ethics and even the values and expectations of their own savior. Just like in the middle ages.
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Truth be told, when supposedly educated people trust crystals more than vaccines, they are no different from uneducated peasants in the third world. They may be experts at reading, writing and believing nonsense; that doesn't make them educated by todays standards and they certainly cannot be called knowledgeable. The question we should be asking is whether or not it is even worth it to try and help them out, or even possible. To what extent can adults be educated?


There are many obvious obstacles truth must overcome in contemporary America:
  1.  Religion and other forms of unfounded beliefs are firmly established in indoctrinated minds. Many people have become immune to truth. By definition, echo chambers prevent misinformation from being corrected - especially when faith or "anecdotal evidence" is trusted above real evidence that is verifiable.
  2. Lack of education is a hard nut to crack because many unconciously avoid finding, learning and remembering correct information. Sometimes it is not mallicious intent or indoctrination that causes the spread of misinformation, but rather intelectual laziness and lack of skepticism. When people have enough of an open mind, their brain falls out. People sorely need to recognize untrustworthy sources and fake facts, but they cannot do so without putting in some effort. 
  3. Big lies feeds on widespread ignorance and distrust of authority (whatever all the experts agree on). Any attempt at helping people will be portrayed as an oppressive establishment stricking down dissent. For this reason, trying to cure ignorance can sometimes backfire. 
  4. The greatest problem is that lack of education is not the real problem. The average IQ and knowledge is way higher today than most of history. But the way modern media works, people are educated in different directions. Factually accurate education is hard to come by, it is drowned in a sea of dishonest alternatives. The layman learns from his sources, trusting them regardless of their trustworthiness. Most such sources are driven by political, religious or ideological agendas to cherry pick information and perspectives. Even if they don't outright lie they hide the truth when it conflicts with their narrative. They shoot a constant barrage of fallacious arguments at the gullible person with devastating success, no matter the absurdity of their position.
  5. A person is likely to host a growing colony of misconceptions because there are a quadrillion ways to view the world, most of which are objectively incorrect. Human cognition also suffer from biases and logical fallacies obscuring our ability to decipher the validity of arguments and claims.

Finding the truth is not a piece of cake, quite the contrary.  Science only finds the truth by studying all available evidence and exposing any hypothesis to intense scrutiny. Any charletan can claim that science is wrong -- but it takes the cumulative effort of scientists worldwide to find real flaws in their models. And when they do, they rejoyce because it means progress. If a person does not trust established science it means they do not  understand how science is established. The most crucial element of rehabilitating a fool is to teach them how evidence works, how logic works, how to be skeptical and detect illogical propaganda.


They need to know WHY science is trustworthy -- only then can one learn to trust it. Trust is a good thing when you deserve it, and science definately deserves trust.



I am curious to hear what you have to add to this conversation. What other aspects are there to the problem? Am I over-exagerating it? What are possible solutions?
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Free will contradicts theism because a creator God necesarily prohibits free will.



P1: An omniscient God knows the complete history of every possible universe; (by necesity including all choices made every universe)

P2: A creator God decided which of the possible universes to create

C: God literally decided how history would turn out and what choices people would make






There is no way around this conclusion. God decided to create a universe where Adam and Eve would eat from the fruit of knowledge. God decided that Adam and Eve would sin, because literally nothing is outside his controll. By definition, nothing happens that conflict with God's decisions. Adam and Eve did not have free will; their choice was no more free than a clock is to show the correct time or not. The creator of the watch is responsible for the watch dysfunctioning, not the watch istself. Blaming a human for a crime is like blaming a gun for a murder --- sure it was the gun who shot the bullet, but the gun was controlled by someone else. This is just an analogy of course, but the point is important. 


The problem of evil is so often dismissed without further elaboration by pointing to free will, and that humans (and/or demons), not God, cause evil and suffering in this world. When used to solve the problem of evil free will is nothing short of magic being invoked to dodge the disturbing implications of God's magic.


If we remove the "magic" from the equation we can confidently say that all humans have choice --- but that CHOISE IS NOT FREE FROM EXTERNAL CONTROLL AND CAUSALITY
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Do you have any thoughts about Dr. Jordan Peterson and his controversial messages?
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The reason measurements of velocity are relative is because the measurer has its own non-zero velocity that affect the measurement. A car has a total velocity larger than what we measure on the surface because the observer isn't taking into account his own movement as the Earth spins. If you could know your own velocity perfectly, you could calculate the velocity of everything else. The problem is that to know your own velocity you must measure it from another reference frame, which also isn't sure of its own velocity. We need a constant reference frame to find absolute velocity. 

Light might be that constant reference frame.

Light moves at a constant speed; its not affected by the movement of its source, only the direction of travel. If you wanted to know whether or not your spaceship was moving, you could aim a laser beam at the wall and see if it missed the mark; which it would only do if the spaceship itself was moving. If you came to the point where the laser would always hit its target perfectly (and I mean, perfectly), then your spaceship would be AT REST, RELATIVE TO THE UNIVERSE ITSELF. Any movement external observers measured from your spaceship would be caused by their velocity relative to the universe, not yours. You would experience no time dilation.

Why?

Light is a wave in the electromagnetical field. It has no mass and is moving at the maximum speed the universe allows. Light moves at C, relative to the universe itself. For this reason, it can be used to measure absolute velocity with some calculations and knowledge of this principle. 
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Ontological Argument:

1. It is possible that a maximally great being exists.
2. If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great exists in some possible world.
3. If a maximally great exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.
4. If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.
5. If a maximally great exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.
6. Therefore, a maximally great being exists.

Maximally Great Being: Being that is Morally Perfect, all-knowing and all-powerful

Sound: Argument is valid and has true premises


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When I became more interested in politics I eventually stumbled accross interviews of Vladimir Putin. I was surprised to see that he accepts interviews with American journalists, and that he answers every question clearly and politely --- unlike certain western figures. Being quite intelligent, during his long career he has accumulated a lot of knowledge. He is certainly very competent, so for me to automatically reject his viewpoints would be stupid and intelectually dishonest. I chose to listen to what he has to say, and it wasn't actually bs, but rather logical reasoning just from a perspective that wasn't American. I was compelled to rethink some of my own political and socioeconomic opinions. I wanted to share some of his viewpoints and hopefully spark some interesting discussions.


On interrnal problems of Russia:
  • Democracy can't but be based on the traditions and customs of a nation. When the USA went into Afganistan they ignored the history and traditions of the people, and therefore their attempt at enforcing democracy failed miserably. The failure of USSR and the failure of American imperialism is that neither respects nor understood other people, opting instead to enforce their own values and interests. Russia will learn from USSR's mistakes. 
  • The development of the Russian economic, social and political spheres MUST be slow and steady as to prevent revolts and revolutions. Russia has had enough revolutions. The stability of the nation and living standard of the people must have first priority. When mass rallies in the west is met and destroyed by the police, it too is lack of freedom based on a preference for stability and order. Russia is a democracy, denying it is just a matter of how you define it. There are 32 political parties in Russia, and different departments are controlled by different parties. We know that corruption in Russia is a big problem, but it unfortunately is not unique. American lobbying, for example, is legalized corruption. Instead of pointing fingers everyone should focus on solving their problems; this is what we will be doing in Russia.
  • Russia does have economic problems, but we do not print money like other countries. Our inflation is caused by being part of the world economy. We recognize the need to put much effort, focus and resources into the economy. We are also working hard to ensure that higher GDP translates into higher wages, this is a specific area of focus for the Russian administration.



On the Russian international relations. Especially with America and its allies:
  • American military excercises in Alaska, we don't care about them, its in their own territory, as such excercises should be. Russian military excercices happen regularly in the south, the east and the west, but only the war games in the west, near eastern Europe, has gotten western attention. We are viewed as aggressive despite containing our operations and infrastructure inside our own territory. Yet military infrastructure in addition to 40.000 military personell and 15.000 pieces of military equipment from Defender Europe is used in a military excercise at our southern borders, some was even airlifted there. How is Russia the aggresive one when we are the ones who keep our military excersices inside our borders? 
  • Gorbachov was promissed that NATO would not expand more towards the east. Interviewer: "where is that written down?" Putin: "Right, right. Well done, correct. You've got a point. They fooled him good". Everything should have been written down, but it wasn't. In fact, NATO has expanded, they have moved their military equipment close to our borders. America has also withdrawn from our treaties regulating the arms race, leading to both America and Russia accelerating the development of more and more advanced weapons. What was the point? And why is Russia the aggressive party? I have said it before and I will say it again, we are willing and eager to negotiate new treaties in order to again restrict and hopefully stop the new arms race of today.
  • When it comes to economy, stability and predictability are the most important. Currency doesn't matter. America apperently does not value its currency. "it is used as an instrument against competition and political struggle. This, of course, is detrimental to the dollar as a global reserve currency"  According to the world bank, among other things, settlements in dollars are shrinking. But we still prefer the dollar as an exchange currency. But we are also willing to use many other currencies for trade. We are ready to talk about transactions in Euro for gas trade, for example. Such monetary changes are acceptable to us. The way the world economy is developing, and the way America treats its currency, it is clear that multiple reserve currencies will be needed.

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Quantum superposition and the wave function seem to ruin strict causality by introducing randomness in physics. If the position of a particle is unknown untill observation, and the wave function collapse leaves the particle in a random position based on probability, then the universe is indeterministic. The question then arises: where does this force of randomness come from? Does a superposition have randomness similar to that of a dice? If that was the case, randomness in quantum mechanics would simply be a result of chaos theory, not of indeterminism. Let me explain:
  • Rolling a dice could render it in a "superposition" with each numerical outcome having a 1/6 chance of occuring. When we measure it, the superposition collapses and we have a definitive outcome (comparable with a particles excact position)
  • The dice is random because the process of throwing a dice, its trajectory and landing, are messy and chaotic. Because the dice follows the laws of physics, we could simulate a dice throw, and if we did, the same outcome would arise every time we use the same initial conditions.
  • Thus, the result of the dice is not truly random, just hard to predict. It's "superposition" prior to us measuring the outcome only exists from our perspective. The dice always has a definitive outcome, and this outcome is determined by the laws of physics.
Throw this comparison, I have shown that true randomness is not necesarily the explantion for seemingly random behaviour. If we apply this logic to quantum mechanics, it is illogical to claim that true randomness is the explanation for seemingly random behaviour like in the wave function collapse. There is at least a chance that this uncertainty and randomness arises from deterministic physical laws, just as chaos theory suggests.
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I arrived on this cite a few months ago. Back then I had no prior experience debating, and I piled up a huge pile of loses. Joking around with weird topics I learned the basics of debating and got quite good at it. Ever since then, I have been winning consistently despite my lack of English as first language. Today is the day I finally arrived on the top ten leaderboard as the first Norwegian ever.


This community is both nice and intellectually stimulating. Thank you all!
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I grew up in a very religious family and community. Because of that, I actually had a period where i prayed a lot, read a lot in the Bible and really "felt" Christianity. You need to understand that my family is pentecostal --- which means they believe in personal relationship with God, praying for the sick (and getting them healed) as a natural part of a Christians life, praying in thungs and other things. I have experienced special feelings that got me invested in Christianity, and I have heard testemonials of healing and Godly help from close family and friends. Even a friend at School was born with one leg too short, and it suposedly grew to the correct size after someone praid for him. I have "heard the inner voice" of the holy spirit, and "felt the power" of prayer.



How do I explain these things? I would like to believe that God is real, however, the intellectual barriers to my faith are high. Moreover, the fact that other religions have similar "real experiences" should go to show that just because one can get real experience of Christianity, that doesn't prove its truth. Yet miracles are hard to deny, especially when whats been healed is so blatantly obvious and the person who's been healed isn't some shady guy but people close to me.



Don't be afraid to tell your opinion --- I have been open and honest here, and I expect nothing less of you if you want to share your thoughts in this forum.
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AGI, artificial general intelligence, will most likely be achieved in the near future with constantly more elaborate AI structures and designs. However, the training process of said AI involves a constant process of trial and error --- in fact tha AI acts randomly at first and then gradually "learns" how to do things. Many are afraid that AGI will become smarter than humans, become a supergenious and then possibly  be an exsistential threat to humanity. While I do not deny the possibility of such superintelligence, I highly doubt that an AGI will somehow reach superintelligence quickly and without supervision like the doomsday scenario suggests.

Rather, the AGI will not be able to controll the computer it runs on --- as AI does not have kernal access. Moreover, an AGI is simply an intelligent program, it runs like any other program: only when we run it will it function, it cannot run itself. This limitation to an AGI means it cannot simply reach superintelligence on its own. More probable than not, the AGI won't even have a mind of its own --- I mean, intelligence and conciousness are quite different things, and they often contradict each other in terms of function. One has said "a creative camera would not be usefull". AI built for the purpose of achieving optimal intelligence will probably not have a structure similarly to our brain, that is, a structure of self-propagated conciousness wherein intelligence is a minor part of its design.

AGI will probably be a program of general intelligence that we can turn on and of as we please without it caring at all --- it would not resist or fight us.


Thus the robotic threat to humanity is minimal.
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This is a forum regarding the validity of the future value argument.

It goes like this:
  1. Humans ought to take into moral consideration future value
  2. xxx has future value
  3. Humans ought to take xxx into moral consideration


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1. GOAL OF TRAFFIC LAWS
The goal of traffic laws is to ensure every single person drives as safely as possible. We of course know that some people can drive better than others, but that does not prevent us from using a single standard. Even if you could drive much faster on the roads and still drive more safely than normal humans (because you are a good driver), that does not mean that you should be allowed to do so --- because every person is required to drive as safely as they can manage, and must follow laws set up for this very purpose.


2. DRUNK DRIVING EFFECTS
We can agree that some people are less affected by alcohol than others, and some people are very good at driving and can drive safely even while affected by alcohol. However, nobody can deny that every single person on Earth can drive safer when sober than they can while drunk. As a result, we can safely conclude that drunk driving decreases everyone's ability to drive, always, and without exception.


3. REBUTTAL OF FOURTROUBLE'S ARGUMENT
FourTrouble's argument hinges on the idea that as long as you drive as safe as other people you should be allowed to drive while drunk. While this might be a good argument, it still isn't perfect. Since the purpose of traffic laws is to maximize each individual's chances of causing an accident, and every single person is less mentally capable of driving while drunk, the only valid conclusion is that nobody should be driving while drunk. This fact should not be contested lest one denies the purpose of traffic laws. 


Drunk Driving Licence
Specialized driving and drunk driving are not the same. Specialised driving means you drive a vehicle to the best of your ability. But to drive while drunk means to intentionally make the roads slightly more dangerous. Drunk driving violates the purpose of traffic laws: driving your vehicle as safely as you can. Thus, drunk driving does indeed stick out as an unnecessary evil that should be removed. 10.000 deaths each year are caused by people who thought that this danger of drunk driving didn't matter, and their stories are more than enough evidence to show that drunk driving kills, and therefore we should ban drunk driving.

Unless FourTrouble denies that even perfect driving doesn't ensure a 0% death chance he cannot deny that even an experienced drunk driver is a greater traffic risk while drunk.


No harm?
FourTrouble's logic for claiming that drunk drivers don' deserve punishment is that they neither intend nor cause harm. Yet some people drive recklessly without causing harm and without intending harm. By his logic, they too don't deserve punishment. With us getting such strange results when applying FourTrouble's logic, we can make no other conclusion than to deny its validity. Surely, we don't punish those that actually harm themselves -- we don't punish those that die in a car crash.

Traffic laws do not punish harm, they punish unnecessary increases in the chance of harm --- a category drunk driving falls into.



CONCLUSION
FourTrouble's argument, at least his claim that "DUI laws serve no purpose in our justice system", fails.
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Please forgive me if I have gotten the system already in place wrong. This is based on my current understanding of the Dart score system.


1. Make unvoted ties not be registered at all
  • This would make our ranking system more accurate

2. Make unrated debates not affect win/loss ration
  • Right now, unrated does not mean actually unrated. The current system makes losing an unrated debate affect the win/loss ration, a very important number.
  • With my suggestion implemented, people like Ragnar and Oromagi would be able to participate in as many debates as they would like
    • Currently, participating in unrated debates puts their precious win/loss rations at risk
    • The current system thus prevents exceptional debaters from participating in funny/informal debates
      • thus the current system causes a lot of undesired and fatal effects and is VERY flawed because of this

3. Possible extension: have unrated debates be a separate number from the rated debates
  • Elsewise, point 2 would not be as effective
  • Currently, unrated debates and ranked debates are seen as one category, making it very possible for the win/loss ratio and elo number to disagree

4. Make tied debates not affect win/loss ratios
  • Tied debates are neither win's nor losses, and should not be recorded as such
  • This suggestion makes the win percentage more accurate, as ties are not actually half-wins half-losses,
  • With this feature, an agreed-upon tie can have the desired effect of not affecting any rating or number



These are three minor changes that would have major effects on the accuracy and usefulness of our ranking system. These changes would be beneficial, objectively speaking.

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I personally love satire. Whether the satire be true or false, deserved or undeserved, I simply can't resist enjoying ideas and policies be ridiculed and put under funny scrutiny. My personal favourite channels of satire on youtube are juicymedia and freedoomtoons. The latter especially can be critiqued, but I simply love the funny and sarcastic way they present ideas and ridicule other ideas. 

Juicymedia makes a lot of factual-based satire. For example, THIS VIDEO SUCCDS EXCEPTIONALLY AT RIDICULING ARMS SALES, WHILE STILL PROVIDING EVIDENCE.

Freedoomtoons is more biased and non-factual; it relies on animation and humour. For example, THIS VIDEO ILLUSTRATES THE ABSURDITY OF FACT-CHECKING FILTERS.

Both of these channels, while not always being necesarily right, make me laugh as well as rethink my stance on political issues. 


If you know about other good channels of satire, be sure to post about them here.
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What are the 2 best arguments for and against God? This is a question of subjective opinion, and I am curious to hear your thoughts whoever you are.
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This is the ultimate rap battle on the topic: The March of history - Mises vs Marx. I encourage you to watch this.
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Eager to hear your thoughts. 
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Does the Bible teach a flat Earth?

If it does, would images from space of a round Earth disprove the Bible?
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Assumption: Intelligent aliens exist, and they match or outperform our intelligence. They also have a technological head start

Question: would the aliens be able to launch a successful invasion of Earth?



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Free willvoluntary choice or decision

Chooseto make a choice about what to do

Determinism: a theory that acts of the will, occurrences in nature, or social or psychological phenomena are causally determined by preceding events or natural laws



Consider my syllogism:
  • P1: Free will can only exist if my experience and choices affect the future state of myself
  • P2: If choices and experiences affect the future, then every choice was affected by previous choices and experiences
  • C: Free will can only exist if every choice was affected by previous choices and/or experience


If you apply this logic to every human, one has effectively proven that free will requires determinism to be true. Unless there is some inherent randomness in how the present affects the future we know for a fact that free will is true, due to free will being a product, not antithesis, of determinism.


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One often hears about domestic violence. The brutal practice of beating your loved one for more or less trivial issues. 

TicToc trends have taken this to a new level.



Abuse is now applauded if you manage to smile and dance while doing it.



Personally, I have never used TicToc. I were shocked to discover this.
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I am Benjamin, I live in Norway.

Apart from my illogical logic, strange topics and mallplaced confidence, you don't know a lot about me.

You might already know this, but my debate topics don't always accurately depict my views. Here is your place to ask me about anything.
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Despite putting a lot of time into my debates, I only have a 50% win rate.

Granted, I do accept absurd topics, but still... what should I learn to improve.

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The brain is just a bunch of atoms moving around. But the same is true of any object. Humans feel like one being, we "are" one being. Yet we exchange our atoms all of the time. If our atoms just follow the laws of physics, we are nothing but a pattern in an endless universe. The world would make more scientific sense if only our physical bodies existed. Yet the exists something we call "I" that clearly experiences reality. I want to share my questions in search of productive discussion.


What is "I"? What experiences reality? 

Please DON'T be angry if your view was misrepresented, I am only asking questions. 



The supernatural "I"
  • Does this thing "soul" exist? Which mechanics drive it and how would it be detectable?
  • How does this "I" function, how does it connect to a brain as opposed to a rock?
  • If this thing has structure, how is it any different from a physical "I"?

The physical "I"
  • Is this "I" merely a product of atoms moving around?
  • Do all atoms moving around create some form of "I", or does this only occur in our brains?
  • How does this happen? New physical dimensions, quantum mechanics, maybe something else?


The nonexistent "I"
  • If "I" doesn't exist, then why do I experience this thought process?
  • If "I" doesn't exist, then a human is no better than a rock. How can one still support morality?
  • What substitutes "I" in terms of function?


These questions sure are thought-provoking. If anyone has an opinion, please explain to me what "I" is and how you answer these questions regarding its nature.




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This is purely a discussion about the scientific method, and how we gather facts, not the facts themselves.
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