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Give me your best and hardest trolley problems, and I will give you my solution to them.
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@Benjamin
I think they boil down to whether the ends don't justify the means, or whether proportionalism is moral. I think dogmatism goes too far with trolley problems and things like terrorists and torture and abortion etc
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There is two people
One on each side
Who do you choose? 
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I won't chose either one, but hide and do nothing, let the track decide. The survivor should not feel any guilt from knowing that their life came at somebody else's expense.
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woah
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If there's a train going at 5 and all u have to do is pull a lever where it changes course and kills only 1... it's immoral not to pull the lever even tho ur action resulted in someone's death
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There is two people
One on each side
Who do you choose? 
The white one
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Here is a better question. Let's say you just bought brand new expensive shoes and are walking home and you see a boy drowning in the nearby pond.. Do you jump into the pond to save him and ruin your brand new shoes or keep walking?
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Those are your only 2 options.. 
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What if they both are white
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Take your shoes off.

And any other item of clothing likely to impede your rescue efforts.
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In stead of wasting time faffing about with levers, just suggest that playing on tracks is unsafe, as trolleys are a problem.

If your advice is ignored, then you will have nonetheless, done your best.
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What if they both are white
Then they can both die
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On one side, there is a beautiful girl.

On the other side, 10000 ugly autistic men.

Well, this is easy, as logically the value of one girl outweighs the value of 10000 ugly autistic men.


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I save the 10000 ugly autistic men, and now they owe me their life. Now I have an army of slaves who can help me get rich and get even better girls.
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Two trolleys are on the same track a distance 100 km apart heading towards one another, each at a speed of 50 km/h. A fly starting out at the front of one trolley, flies towards the other at a speed of 75 km/h. Upon reaching the other trolley, the fly turns around and continues towards the first trolley. How many kilometers does the fly travel before getting squashed in the collision of the two trolleys?
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The trolleys will meet after 1 hour. So the fly will have flown 75 kilometers in that time. But if it was a smart fly it would probably fly to the side to avoid certain death.
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@Benjamin
Yep. Apparently there's also a way more complicated method of solving it.

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Oh and also, the fly will have already collided with each of the trolleys and infinite number of times and survived before they collide with each other, so props to the fly I guess.
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Wheels came off.
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Half of an alien civilisation or half of Earth’s?


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How many aliens are there? I mean, I will prioritize humans of course, but a trillion aliens on each planet in an entire galaxy, is probably more important than everyone on earth.
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Let’s say everything is equal, apart from them not knowing about us before you wipe half of them out. 
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If everything is equal then its a no brainer. I don't want to lose my family. Plus, they won't be able to retaliate if we are twice as strong as them.
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A runaway trolley is headed toward 12 people. You can divert the trolley to another track, but that track has an infant on it.
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Thats just extra late term abortion.
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Thats just extra late term abortion.
For the infant or for the 12 adults?


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Tis but a joke.

After birth its no longer abortion. But yes 1 infant is less morally valuable than 12 people of any age.
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But yes 1 infant is less morally valuable than 12 people of any age.
Can you explain the moral philosophy underpinning that?

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1 < 12

12 dead infants is worse than 1 dead infant. Unless that 1 infant has exponentially more ethical importance, but that was not specified in the scenario you gave me.