I finally understand why Jews try to trick God

1. The laws were the laws before the prophets existed

2. why would you quote the gospels to someone who doesn't see them as authoritative or useful?

for a start ;)

Who said anything about justifying anything? Why don't you go back through the Jewish bible and make a list of all the prophets who were killed. Then look to see who killd each one and what the consequences were.

See, that would be called "learning" and you should look into it.

The only time in Jewish history of mass persecution of God’s Prophets occurred was in the  lifetime of Prophet Elijah (I Kings 19:14) who told God: “I have been very jealous for the LORD; for [many of]  the children of Israel have forsaken your covenant, thrown down your altars, and slain your prophets with the sword; and I, only I am left; and they seek to take my life away.”

And of course there was the actual example in the Gospels of the Jewish King Herod as a Prophet killer. The Herodians had already done away with Jesus’ cousin Prophet John when he criticized their personal family affairs (Mark 6:17-29). Now “King Herod heard [reports about Jesus’ healing and teaching] for Jesus’ name had become [well] known. Some were saying, “John the baptizer has been raised from the dead; and for this reason these powers work in him [Jesus].” But others said, “It is Elijah.”  And others said, “It is a prophet like one of the prophets of old.” But when Herod heard of it, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has returned to life.” (Mark 6:14-16)

There are two narratives in the Hebrew Bible that relate how a Jewish king killed a specific prophet: The first is in 2 Chronicles and involves Zechariah son of Jehoiada the high priest who lived in the days of King Joash of Judah (ruled 835-796): “The spirit of God then invested Zechariah son of Jehoiada the priest. He stood up before the people and said, ‘God says this, “Why transgress God’s commands to your certain ruin? For if you abandon God, he will abandon you.” They then plotted against him and, at the king’s order, stoned him in the courtyard  of the Temple of God.” (2 Chronicles 24:20-21).

The second narrative appears in the Book of Prophet Jeremiah, during the reign of King Jehoiakim (ruled 609-598): “There was another man, who used to prophesy in God’s name, Uriah son of Shemaiah, from Kiriath-Jearim. He prophesied exactly the same things against this city and this country as Jeremiah. When King Jehoiakim with all his officers and all the chief men heard what he said, the king decided to put him to death. “On hearing this, Uriah took flight and escaped to Egypt. King Jehoiakim, however, sent Elnathan son of Achbor to Egypt with others, who brought Uriah back from Egypt and took him to King Jehoiakim, who had him put to the sword and his body thrown into the common burial ground.” (Jeremiah 26:20- 23).

So your claim remains unsubstantiated. Kings who worshipped idolatry killed prophets. And they and the nation that worshipped idols were punished.

See how great learning is? It points out what you don't really know and gives you an opportunity to change your position when faced with more facts.

God stopped sending prophets to save the Jews because the Jews were famous for disposing off their prophets. According to the Bible Malachi was the last prophet sent some 450 years before Jesus. So what did the Jews rely on to preserve their knowledge of God? It goes back to dieting and observing circumcision. These two aspects of Judaism is well preserved and observed.

And the cessation of prophecy (about 320 before the common era, not 450) had no effect on Jews' preserving their knowledge of God. They had both written texts and orally transmitted laws. They practiced their religion well beyond "dieting" and circumcision. Do you even have a point to make or are you just a rnadomly firing shotgun, hoping that one pellet will land?

If the Jews were loyal to their God, why didn’t their God preserve them from their neighbours? Was it because the Jews only observed dietary restrictions and circumcision that left them helpless. Today they rely on American weapons which is why they are still around.

God did which is why there are still Jews here and there. You keep ignoring the most obvious "why" answer -- the one the text attests to: idolatry.

Seriously, you are getting your stupidity mixed into your hate and it is just making you look worse and worse.

The Arabs own land 400 times the size of Israel. They control 2/3 the world’s oil reserves. There are 1.9 billion Muslims compared to 14 million Jews. God blessed the descendants of Ishmael who was circumcised.

Genesis 17:20

And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.

One way or another rules is oppression.

And man makes rules to oppress his fellow man.

And I don't need to prove that there isn't a GOD, because currently there isn't one.

You stated that "God commanded", which is therefore incorrect.

So I know, that what you think you know and what you actually know are two different things.

I'm glad your faith system validates the biblical prophecies. So much to look forward to!

Matthew 27:25 And all the people yelled back, “We will take responsibility for his death—we and our children!”

Exodus 34:7 says that God “[visits] the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation.”

So much to look forward to!

And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries into which I have driven them, and will bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. (Jer 23:3)

The Arabs own land 400 times the size of Israel. They control 2/3 the world’s oil reserves. There are 1.9 billion Muslims compared to 14 million Jews. God blessed the descendants of Ishmael who was circumcised.

The Jews now have to resort to stealing land from the Palestinians. The covenant of circumcision can only take the Jews so far only to be overtaken by the Muslims.

One way or another rules is oppression.

that's where your knowledge of reality fails completely. You are also ignoring that the text promises the land to the Jews. Why don't you see Israel's existance and growth as fulfillment of biblical prophecy?

Oh yeah, because that doesn't fit your narrative or play to your ignorance.

Are you really that ignorant of the Bible and history? You disprove yourself both within messages and between them. You keep reposting the same material. I'm beginning to think that you are a bot, or whatever the stupid version of a bot is. 

Plagiarising from multiple sources material which isn't relevant. Yup. Sounds like a bot.

If it is the truth what does it matter who said it first.

The Jews were repeatedly punished throughout their history by God and their neighbours.

There are a lot of dos and don'ts in the 613 commandments. But I could not find any commandment that tells Jews to be 'likeable'.

With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.

I don't mean to be disparaging. But would adding one more commandment to be likeable to the existing 613 be so difficult?

Would adding that same commandment to be likeable have saved Jesus who was a Jew and stopped at the 613 commandments? Why didn't Jesus add the commandment to be likeable himself?

who cares. Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.

Not true!!!

Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.

you don't read well, do you. You are explaining that Judaism had a lot to do with Jesus. That may be but who cares?

I said that Jesus was nothing to do with Judaism. Stay focused.

so, still not reading, still repeating the same paragraphs and now you added another irrelevance -- " The Jews had a lot to do with Jesus. "

My statement was that Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.