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@zedvictor4
Ah
Can you think of a cosmic idea of why the flattened subdivided triangle would infold to the 3D tetrahedron { not shown }.
Not sure why I cant think of a cosmic idea there. And it can do it in two differrent directions.
If this were cosmic scenario in Euclidean space or curved space, it is almost as if it it would be doing that --not saying Universe does-- a reference point to itself in someway. I dunno
Sorry I dont have good graphics to such ideas.
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@zedvictor4
Oh yeah Zed, I forgot the link to 3D volumetric VE ---tho sure you've seen it before-- before in infolds to the flattened subdivided triangle.
VE > Octahedron > octa-truss > semi-3D --i.e. superificiall appearing as 2D-- flattend subidivided set of the original 8 surface triangles
VE infold/contract > octahedron > infold to octa-truss > flattened 8 triangles > infold those 8 to a 3D tetrahedron { not shown }.
Simple enough for you to grasp how the four outer triangles of the flattened subdivided triangle, fold to a point to create a 3D tetrahedron.
If there is cosmic angle{ idea/viewpoint } for that last infolding to tetahedron, I dont ever recall thinking of one.
Simple enough for you to grasp how the four outer triangles of the flattened subdivided triangle, fold to a point to create a 3D tetrahedron.
If there is cosmic angle{ idea/viewpoint } for that last infolding to tetahedron, I dont ever recall thinking of one.
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@zedvictor4
I don't bother now.
Vaccines exist because they work to aid in health. I got the shingles vaccine, the two pneumonias, the three heptatis, RSV, regular flu shots etc.
I still forget what I read about why there are no cold virus vaccines. Seems strange they never happened
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@FLRW
Did you get the mRNA vaccine?
Yes, sorry FL, I see I did not explain clearly --grammatically-- that yes I got all mRNA vaccines plus the booster fro vaccine from around 1960, that, online there was some info that it might help reduce detrimental effect. That is the one I mentioned in #1 above. I forget what that vaccine as a child was for exactly. I think it is the one that left this half-dollar size thingie on our bicept for a week or more afterwards.
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I finally caught the covid the infection three or four days ago. Yay!. I began getting a vaccinesto counter covid even before the first covid vaccines { mRNA } were created and all of these helped to lessen the detrimental effects.
I stayed out of work for 2 days, and plenty of energy on third day so went to work, tho I was little hoarse from darker snot from viri that dribbled into chest from sinuses. I finally got tired around 2:30 PM. Still made my 8 hour day tho.
So today is 4th day and coughing out some darker snot from chest. Interestingly to me is, it is not the typical dark green or lighter yellow Ive had from several colds or flus in past years. It seems to be a color between of dark yellow between the dark green and lighter yellow.
It is possible I will have a relapse in days ahead, however, I think not, because these days I use neti-pot saline solution as well as other stuff, ---ex beta-glucans shiitake etc--- much more than I did in past years.
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@zedvictor4
I think that I suggested that.
You may have Zed, yet your not using those words.
Unfortunately we cannot see billions of years into the future.
We can and do anticipate this or that, based on what we humans have observed and this is why in the late 1800's scientists invoked concept of 1st law of thermodynamic conservation ...naught is created nor destroyed ergo eternally.
So we make best guesses based upon current understanding.
Thats correct Zed. Humans assume the fermionic proton has a natural decay rate based on most or all of other known fermions having a natural decay rate.
Five and only five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra are not a guess. Humans know ---not a guess-- there are eternally exist cosmic principles ergo finite limits of what is possible with Universe or the parts compose it.
And as the Universe progresses and understanding develops, then so do best guesses develop also.
Ive been sick and tired for two days with covid for the first time Zed. So sorry if I ended with not much reply last time. Ex you mention entropy and does Universe just fizzle out. Well of course eternally existent means Universe does not fizzle out ---naught is destroyed----.
After good nights sleep, I realized an a possible transformation of Universe that is likened to your fizzle out comment is that of the older idea of heat death of Universe via entropy.
1} >>>simplest answer<<< I ever read of that, ---and have offerrred various geometric scenarios here at DArt addressing Heat Death of Universe over the years--- was that Universe becomes one very ultra-large, ultra-long wave { low frequency } --ergo nearly flat-- single photon. In this scenario no total energy is lost, only spread out, even tho it is a finite, limited lowest frequency of EMRadiation.
1} >>>simplest answer<<< I ever read of that, ---and have offerrred various geometric scenarios here at DArt addressing Heat Death of Universe over the years--- was that Universe becomes one very ultra-large, ultra-long wave { low frequency } --ergo nearly flat-- single photon. In this scenario no total energy is lost, only spread out, even tho it is a finite, limited lowest frequency of EMRadiation.
The sum total of energy of Universe still exists, and only transformed to an ultra-large { spread out } pattern of existence of all of its occupied space energy.
At that time, and to this day I offer this Euclidean --static not dynamic-- graphic of the 3D Vector Equlibrium{ VE } aka a cubo-octahedron as a flatten subdivided triangle defined by the original 8 surface triangles of the VE. A finite 3D volume flattened and spread out to very thin, yet never loosing its structural { triangulated } integrity.
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f6108.html
At that time, and to this day I offer this Euclidean --static not dynamic-- graphic of the 3D Vector Equlibrium{ VE } aka a cubo-octahedron as a flatten subdivided triangle defined by the original 8 surface triangles of the VE. A finite 3D volume flattened and spread out to very thin, yet never loosing its structural { triangulated } integrity.
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f6108.html
From the semi-flattened out 2D version, it unfolds back to the easily visisble 3D VE, does this infolding collaspe { Heat Deat semi-2D } and the out-folding expansion to the visible 3D volume, repeat eternally
I wont go into the more complex versions of this I presented over the years
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@zedvictor4
Elon Musk. Saint or sinner? Dangerously clever or cleverly dangerous?
Saint is a joke, yes?
Technologically savy intellectual for sure.
Technologically savy intellectual for sure.
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@zedvictor4
Its real simple Zed, eternally regenerative, dynamically, transforming, occupied space Universe.
If you cant grasp this simple scenario, then not much I else I can say over and over again to aid you understanding the above.
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@zedvictor4
Time and Space are eternal potential.
Potential what specifically? Observed { quantised and quantified } time and space { occupied and truly non-occupied } exist and that I agree with.
Stuff is that which occupies and develops.
Occupied space Ive already laid out clearly many times. A something and your preference is word stuff. Ok
Occupied space Universe is dynamically transformative and you prefer word ' develops '. Ok
Occupied space Universe is dynamically transformative and you prefer word ' develops '. Ok
Interim events are relative occurrences and development.
' Interim ' .." in the meanetime "....Yes we wever established many times occupied space events and interim time between various events exists. within context of Einstiens relativity. I agree
Relative to Time, Space and Stuff.
Relativity { Einstein } exists in respect to time and occupied space { stuff? }, yes. Of course.
As a thinking organism caught up in universal events, I would suggest that the above is a basic understanding of the universe, rather than a belief.
Yes, as a human organism Ive been stating all of this for years without use of --or much use of--- words stuff, interim. Many synonyms exist. Ok
All humans --that includes Zed--- have beliefs based on their observations and resultant understandings of those observations. Ive been laying that out clearly for years. Great!
All humans --that includes Zed--- have beliefs based on their observations and resultant understandings of those observations. Ive been laying that out clearly for years. Great!
Other than that, I speculate as to whether or not a universe is predestined, either by influence, or more so by physical law, to inevitably proceed in a certain way towards a conclusion.
Finite, occupied space Universe is eternally existent. 1st law of thermodynamics is one law of two laws of conserveration that point in direction of such eternal existence.
Naught is created nor destroyed only transformed, and again Ive bee saying that for years. Ergo eternally existent
If you agree, then that is great, If you dont, then I think your lacking some logical, common sense critical thinking on that specific issue.
Given that we think we exist and are aware of material development, especially in terms of technological progress, I therefore also speculate upon why this would be so.
So you like words material and stuff. I prefer two words that covers all those synonyms. Occupied space. Simple, no confusion with what is meant.
Development = eternally existent, dynamic transformations our finite, occupied space Universe. Clear and simple.
Yes humans think they exist. And with good reason. If others want to question whether they exist, tap there self on head with knucles and feel and hear. Simple.
Yes humans think they exist. And with good reason. If others want to question whether they exist, tap there self on head with knucles and feel and hear. Simple.
By chance or for a purpose.
Only humans apply/assign a ' purpose ' for any and all actions, including the eternally existent, dynamically transforming, finite, occupied space Universe.
Universe just IS. Universe does not contemplate a purpose. If you think it does, then conditioning has led to some incorrect belief system.
Universe just IS. Universe does not contemplate a purpose. If you think it does, then conditioning has led to some incorrect belief system.
I then further speculate as to whether the unfulfillment of any role within a universal process would therefore lead to a universal failure.
1st laws, naught is created nor destroyed --your word is failure-- only in eternal dynamic transformation. teh 1st law integrity and humans observe integrity in techological creations by humans ---ex structure { triangulation of walls } of house, and biologic cells that live and die. Yes there are the immortal jelly fish that return to there polystage, so it appears there is a core there of biology that does not disintegrate.
Been while since I researched those jellies. However, there cells may very well die off even as new ones grow. THink of salamander that have cells that regrow a leg.
Yet, if the core poly of jellie is no in proper water environment the integrity disintegrates.
We dont know that the proton has a natural decay rate, yet is pressumed it has one, only that is many years before it occurs
Been while since I researched those jellies. However, there cells may very well die off even as new ones grow. THink of salamander that have cells that regrow a leg.
Yet, if the core poly of jellie is no in proper water environment the integrity disintegrates.
We dont know that the proton has a natural decay rate, yet is pressumed it has one, only that is many years before it occurs
For example, the inability to reinitiate from an entropic state to an ectropic state....The GOD principle if you like.
I have no idea what your God principle is. Even after all these years of you repeating such words.
Eternally dynamic, transformative, finite, occupied Universe. Ive been very clear with use your words above
Eternally dynamic, transformative, finite, occupied Universe. Ive been very clear with use your words above
And of course, the thinking organism will inevitably wonder how matter can exist at all.
Yeah Universe and all of is part are strange. The more we observe some of those parts, the more the become less strange to us.
A stranger is someone we have not met before. Over time they become less strange to us we get to know them. Generally speaking we find the commnalities with ourselves and for most part all is cool
There is of course those whose behaviiour is a little to strange and may make us uncomfortable so we may try and avoid them. So it goes.
There is no avoiding the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, except with death of the biologic organsims that is eaten/absorbed by bacteria > fungus > fertiliszer/syntropic integration with forest, etc. Eternally dynamic transformations of biologic life, unless it is killed off on Earth or elesewhere in Universe
There is no avoiding the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, except with death of the biologic organsims that is eaten/absorbed by bacteria > fungus > fertiliszer/syntropic integration with forest, etc. Eternally dynamic transformations of biologic life, unless it is killed off on Earth or elesewhere in Universe
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@Sunshineboy217
After ten years some of those controllers were rehired.
Not say Regans move caused accidents, only that --as presented in the quotes I presented--- it takes two years minimum to train these controllers.
That technicality was also mentioned on news today, in regards to what it takes to become an air traffic controller.
And again, Im just saying it was reminscent of out with the old in with the new in both cases involving airports in general.
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@zedvictor4
Note Zed, in #79 I mispoke and meant to write without a specific
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@zedvictor4
As I see it. Potential is eternal.
Zed, as I see it, the use of the word " potential " with a specific reference to other this or that, is sort of meaningless mind game via use of only that word. No offense intented
Stuff begs an explanation.
Stuff? Are you refering to any of my previous comments in #71? Occupied space, and use of word something as reference specifically to occupied space. Is that your stuff your refering to? I also gave examples of foot/soccer ball ergo, 3D volume of an occupied space something.
And meta-space power or intelligence would require the same answers.
Access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts via human nervous system and to whatever degree perhaps some other animals is pattern of recall abilities, formulated in our nervous system, from which more and more complexities arise with those abilities.
Why humans have access more than animals may have to do with integration of those memories into correlated pattern firings in our nervous system.
With this greater access humans greatest attribute is to be able to generalize specific patterns via our development of more complex language. Other animals have great attributes yet they are more specifics t a few special-case tasks, and not the ability to integrate those memories into more complex generalities expressed in more complex language patterns.
Interim events may or may not be necessary or purposeful.
Sorry you lost me here with this sentence. I ask again for you to give logical, common sense critical thinking responses ---based on human evidence---, to your beliefs, as presented by you in #70.
Various kinds of human mind games zed, that, we all play in differrent ways and some times overlapping or exactly the same way. Sorry we dont have a chat with microphone and video ability to communicate. Ive been doing that some lately on a Discord server I joined a week or so ago. I have a Discord server called ' Theory of Everything Universe ', that,
I tried today get channel for vid and microphone happening. Couldnt figure it out. It may cost money to have those features I dunno. Still learning about it. Ha I figured out and didnt know I had done it. Now I have to many of them of almost the same name. No figure out to delete them
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@zedvictor4
Hi Ebuc.
Hi zed. First of all let me say that I watcching doc. on Prime called The Vikings Last Voyage, and how King Charlemene violently tried force Christianity on the lower regions of the Danes{ Danish vikings } around late 700's or 800's. Eventually, Vikings saw it was was to their advantage to allow them selves to be Baptized --whether the believe any of Christian stuff-- and this allowed to then have peaceful trade, and settlements within in this Saxony Coralinginans Europe of that time.
Is the Universe eternally existent and occupied?
Please share when you have logical, common sense critical thinking --based on observed evidence--- that would lead you to believe otherwise.
Or should I ask...Was the Universe always existent and occupied.
Via logical, common sense critical thinking, based on what humans observe, then of course the answer is yes. Ex only occupied space { some things } ---ex a foot/soccer ball-- is functional for the sport if they --humans, milk cartons etc--- has structural integrity to keep its shape.
Maybe it wasn't but now is (potentially).
Potential? Zed, there is potential for whatever is possible to, exist. What is possible is limited and Ive repeatedly over the years presented at DArt, that, there is no potential for a 6th, symmetrical/regular, and convex, polyhedron to exist in Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts, or in occupied space.
I'm sure there are many other examples of what is limited --has a limit-- and just cant grab a another good one for you at moment.
For me, it ceases to be a scientifically answerable question.
What part of human existence does not involve the mind and all sorts of games of saying what is not possible to exist, to exist dynamic as an occupied space, and not just magic trick done with 3D pixels on 2D screen of a laptop. Ex do you believe it is possible to have a biologic life, that is polka dotted Unicorn, produced in a Toyota car factory, based on your access to logical, common sense critical thinking based on the evidence your aware of?
Again I go back to the concept of limits of what is possible to exist. Anyone can say yes it is possible to have 6th 7th etc regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedron, yet it lacks all of the above I mention already
And becomes a mind game.
I agree Zed, however, as presented above some mind games follow logical, common sense critical thinking based on what humans observe, others do not.
If you want to believe, that, anything is possible, the more power to you. That is not the path I choose to follow and would say those who do say because they believe that, are also playing a mind game that will never lead to any occupied space existence.
Your a smart dude, yet I think there is some aspect of your traditional ways conditioning keeps you wanting believe there is this Meta-space power, or intelligence or etc out there or in there or everywhere, that is going ride in a Unicorn like Zeus with the lightening power that can break any Meta-space, cosmically finite principles
For Charlemene it was Christian God. For others some else. For me it is an eternally existence set of interfering --more at less in all of eternity---fields, that, composed our Universe, and some of those fields may come and out of existence, yet never the whole as sumtotal of cosmic accounting i.e., maybe it for a brief moments becomes one kind of a cosmic field, the diversifies again.
And repeats eternally those comings and goings of a vairious fields, the one common field, then diversifies. I dunno the specifics over and eternity regarding finite limits of Universe transformations.
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1} no creator-of-Universe God exists except as a Meta-space mind/intellectual concept,
2} ancient life can be so awful that to find something to have faith or belief in, is an effort to bring peace to desperate peoples,
3} Christianity was spread via violent force, for the most part, if understand history correctly --im no expert---,
4} a common cause, belief or faith is good for the social condition to celebrate as one humanity under the stars { Sol } ---Universe---,
5} people need each other for support, for the most part, and they need to find commonality to avoid violence, or, to fight violence with violence.
...All-for-one and one-for-all... is the most important spiritual belief for humanity in general.
AI....."Divide and conquer" is a strategy that involves causing division among people to weaken them and make them easier to control.It can be used in many contexts, including politics, business, and personal relationships ".....
Universe divides into Fermionic matter { fields } and Bosonic forces { fields } and each of those has its subdivided particles { fields }.
Why? Is just eternally that way? With an eternally existent occupied space Universe, do there exist times of only one common field? Does the common field actually have diversity i.e. not totally symmetrical?
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@Tradesecret
1} no creator-of-Universe God exists except as a Meta-space mind/intellectual concept,
2} ancient life can be so awful that to find something to have faith or belief in, is an effort to bring peace to desperate peoples,
3} Christianity was spread via violent force, for the most part, if understand history correctly --im no expert---,
4} a common cause, belief or faith is good for the social condition to celebrate as one humanity under the stars { Sol } ---Universe---,
5} people need each other for support, for the most part, and they need to find commonality to avoid violence, or, to fight violence with violence.
...All-for-one and one-for-all... is the most important spiritual belief for humanity in general.
AI....."Divide and conquer" is a strategy that involves causing division among people to weaken them and make them easier to control.It can be used in many contexts, including politics, business, and personal relationships ".....
Universe divides into Fermionic matter { fields } and Bosonic forces { fields } and each of those has its subdivided particles { fields }.
Why? Is just eternally that way? With an eternally existent occupied space Universe, do there exist times of only one common field?
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@Greyparrot
@zedvictor4
@Double_R
M A G A / M A Dumb Again = fear of trans people and there is long list after that. M A Dumb Again, wants to purge all ideas of diversity.
The reason so many men are homophobic is because they fear its existence --to whatever degree-- in themselves.
Im hearing that two of the air traffic controllers were doing two jobs at same time:
1} watching helicopter traffic, and,
1} watching helicopter traffic, and,
2} watching commercial airline traffic. Apparrenty this is was an abnormal practice for this time of day and it was due to a shortage of air traffic controllers.
History repeats itself this is so reminiscent of Regans actions in 1981 >< Trumpet { 2025 }.
Helicopter was on a standard corridor, however, this whole area is very tight/congested with traffic.
We dont know why the helicopter rose from 200 ft to 400 ft.
Trumpet and M A Dumb Again claim to know. Only time ---not fear-- will gives us more accurate knowledge.
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@Sidewalker
Within days of taking office, Trump immediately fired the heads of the TSA and fired every committee member of the federal Aviation Security Advisory Committee, with no thought of the consequences...
I seem to recall Regan firing a bunch aviation people when he got in office also.
Political Smell Permeates DC
..ebuc....
..ebuc....
Two birds of feather, crashed together,
Regan { 81 } Trumpet { 25 }, two leaders did dump-it,
So now we guess, who will clean this mess?
.."On August 5, following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work, the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order,[13][14] and banned them from federal service for life. In the wake of the strike and mass firings, the FAA was faced with the difficult task of hiring and training enough controllers to replace those that had been fired. Under normal conditions, it took three years to train new controllers.[1][page needed]
Until replacements could be trained, the vacant positions were temporarily filled with a mix of non-participating controllers, supervisors, staff personnel, some non-rated personnel, military controllers, and controllers transferred temporarily from other facilities. PATCO was decertified by the Federal Labor Relations Authority on October 22, 1981. The decision was appealed but to no avail,[15] and attempts to use the courts to reverse the firings proved fruitless.[16]
The FAA had initially claimed that staffing levels would be restored within two years; however, it took closer to 10 years before the overall staffing levels returned to normal.[1] ""
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@Lemming
.." Questions about decision-making transparency, ethical boundaries, and appropriate levels of autonomy need careful consideration. How do we ensure these systems remain aligned with human values and interests while maintaining their ability to operate independently? "....
Humans --with all of there misgivings { intended or not }-- are shaping Agentic AI, General Adaptive AI, etc.
Any logical, common sense critical thinking person will come to a conclusion that a properly shaped AAI, GAI, will arrive at for humanities longer term existence.
A spiritually empathetic path of all-for-one and one-for-all is the final sane solution, with the desire to have least amount of suffering for all humanity.
> cause >
What humans feed into the AAI/AGI is the algorithmic recipe, that shapes the dough { nervous system body } of;
1} data bits harvested, ---> action >----
1} data bits harvested, ---> action >----
2} winnowing out specific relevant data to the programmed task, --- > action >---
3} finding patterns, --- > action > --
4} > resultant > assembling those patterns as a plan-of-action, for humans to study, adjust and implement or not, in support of the greatest wholistic set of humanity going forward, with least amount of sufferring. A shared desire for a shared pathway, to a shared outcome/resultant.
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Freaky is all in the mind
Yes Zed, freaky is likened to,.... strange to us, so it freaks us out.
Like the day the Earth stood still. Quick shoot the strange freaky looking robot before it kills us all, type mentality.
Same goes for strange creatures on Earth. Some poisonous some not.
>Some thumb nail size Jelly fish off coast of Australia have the worse toxin,
>Then small yellow amazonian frog
>Then some snake in middle of Australian desert that humans rarely encounter,
>some humans that may or may not seem a little bit odd, kill you then eat you,
>some beautiful sunken grassy glades were non-smelly gas will kill any biologic
>killer shrooms
>killer asteroids and comets
>water kills more humans than any other catasrophy each year,
>heat kills more humans than cold each year
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If someone could let Faux know I attempted and unblock on his profile from my end. Just click persons profile > actions > see the lock and click on it.
Faux...Yeah, we blocked each other a few years ago. I'm willing to unblock, but it may take a bit. I don't remember how it's done, just know it can be.I went to your profile and under ' Actions ' the lock icon said block, so I clicked it and now it says unblocked.
Oh, yeah...Armstrong was a genius. Had an opportunity to see him perform once, long, long ago. Magic!Thanks for the reminder.
I was taking a hike with friends in forest Sunday, and one of them was trying to remember the words to that song. We all kept working on it till collectively we recalled few more lines correctly or close enough
For some reason the poem you presented set of memory of that song in my mind. I had forgot it was Louis Armstrong.
For some reason the poem you presented set of memory of that song in my mind. I had forgot it was Louis Armstrong.
That you saw him in concert is sort of intriguing relationship to our my friends having it in mind, then it popping into my mind after reading the poem.
The Universe works in mysterious ways.
" Universe is everything including me,
The Universe works in mysterious ways.
" Universe is everything including me,
Environment is everything excluding me ".....Bucky Fuller
All is in motion and the poem you presented reflects motion.
All is in motion and the poem you presented reflects motion.
Ask your daughter, where to do bad rainbows go?
They go to prizm { think Issac Newton } and there, they can reflect on their actions. :--)
Technically it is refraction --the slitting of white light--, however, the joke goes over better with general public to say reflect.
They go to prizm { think Issac Newton } and there, they can reflect on their actions. :--)
Technically it is refraction --the slitting of white light--, however, the joke goes over better with general public to say reflect.
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Oops apparrenlty blocked by Faux.
Ask her what a bear dancing in the rain is called?
A drizzly bear. Got that one from a friend who got it from her 6 year old grandchild who apparrently gets them off candy wrappers he likes.
A drizzly bear. Got that one from a friend who got it from her 6 year old grandchild who apparrently gets them off candy wrappers he likes.
You and your 11 year old may love the lyrics of this tune by Louis Aarmstrong.
What A Wonderful World.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqhCQZaH4Vs..." I see trees of green
Red roses too
I see them bloom
For me and you
And I think to myself
What a wonderful world
I see skies of blue
And clouds of white
The bright blessed day
The dark sacred night
And I think to myself
What a wonderful world
The colors of the rainbow
So pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces
Of people going by
I see friends shaking hands
Saying, "How do you do?"
They're really saying
I love you
I hear babies cry
I watch them grow
They'll learn much more
Than I'll ever know
And I think to myself
What a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself
What a wonderful world
Ooh, yes "...
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@Shila
Shila, please once again, will you please take a hike from al threads of started. Your basically a troll I know of at least four others who do not care for your trolling tactics.
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I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now,something of ill-omen, amongst us.
... " At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? Ianswer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us
. Itcannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we mustourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, wemust live through all time, or die by suicide.
I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now,something of ill-omen, amongst us.
I mean the increasing disregardfor law which pervades the country; the growing disposition tosubstitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the soberjudgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for theexecutive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfullyfearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, thoughgrating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth,and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. Accounts of outragescommitted by mobs, form the every-day news of the times. Theyhave pervaded the country, from New England to Louisiana;--theyare neither peculiar to the eternal snows of the former, nor theburning suns of the latter;--they are not the creature of climate--neither are they confined to the slave-holding, or the non-slave-holding States. Alike, they spring up among the pleasure huntingmasters of Southern slaves, and the order loving citizens of theland of steady habits.
--Whatever, then, their cause may be, itis common to the whole country. "....
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@zedvictor4
Fantastic.
Such is the sweet nature of our awesome Universe, and what I believe ---speculate-- to be the space-time horn tori particles that composes it.
We only see the inside body ( ^v^v^v } of physical reality { dough }and not the ultra-micro geodesic curved surface's of jam and custard. ( )( )
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Would today also be the first time you heard of the Universal Doughnut of Jam and Custard?
Yes it is. Do the look identidal the the CMB coloring at time 12:35? IF yes. then I want to try some
Please send them overnight priority to me.
I would remind others, that, time stamp 11:40 she goes over the gravitational lensing effect, where Gravity --or at least the some masses " the big ring cluster "--- cause so called ' SPACE ' to curve ergo the EMRadiaiton photons follow the geodesic curving.
Please READ MY LIPS TEXT! Only an occupied space medium --ex a spoon, fork, human, doughnut etc can bent/warped--- is being warped/curved, so once again, and always using critical thinking, tell yourself that that space is and occupied space medium, in order for it to be bent? You understand that Zed. Dont you?
Ergo my repeated insistence for my space-time torus { doughnut } surface is composed of :
1} ultra-micro, Gravitational Jam on outer positive surface,
2} ultra-micro, Dark Energy custard on the inner negative surface curvature,
3| and both of these two are attracted to each other, ergo, the invaginations, that, appear to us as a sine-wave ^v^v^v^ or physical reality aka Observed { quantised } Time { OT } aka the dough-nut-torus of space-time
Ergo my repeated insistence for my space-time torus { doughnut } surface is composed of :
1} ultra-micro, Gravitational Jam on outer positive surface,
2} ultra-micro, Dark Energy custard on the inner negative surface curvature,
3| and both of these two are attracted to each other, ergo, the invaginations, that, appear to us as a sine-wave ^v^v^v^ or physical reality aka Observed { quantised } Time { OT } aka the dough-nut-torus of space-time
The moral of the scenario, is to enjoy the time we have with our jam and custard along with tea or coffee ;--))
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See message 1290 for three sci-fi and of course ive mentioned here original Blade Runner all time favorite. Alien was big competion for it and I chose it over Blade Runner at that time. Not any more and Im not going to bother ALien Rommulus.
Its all about stimulating nervous system in some or another. I was watching Goldwyn Mayer Russian movie alledged based on getting through the Nazi blockade to Lennigrad, then primarilyy many young and midde-age women building rail road tracks over two or more rivers and, learning to operate assist and all apsects of running trains and systems associated with that, to start getting supplies in to the besieged city.
There was some romantic the aspect, however, the main stimulation came to me mostly when they are getting bombed from Nazies on 100's of the trips the made in and out, that sort of thing who will make it or not, what happens in each situation.
Its all about stimulating nervous system in some or another. I was watching Goldwyn Mayer Russian movie alledged based on getting through the Nazi blockade to Lennigrad, then primarilyy many young and midde-age women building rail road tracks over two or more rivers and, learning to operate assist and all apsects of running trains and systems associated with that, to start getting supplies in to the besieged city.
There was some romantic the aspect, however, the main stimulation came to me mostly when they are getting bombed from Nazies on 100's of the trips the made in and out, that sort of thing who will make it or not, what happens in each situation.
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I'm hoping I wake up, and it's still 2015, and then I realize I took acid and none of this surrealistic shit really happened.
Ha ha, your pretty funny much of the time. Thank You!
The AI Matrix Agents { cloned narrcist's dressed in black } are now running --or is it ruining-- the USA. Your quote below is proof of this AI Agents of the Matrix.
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening" - Donald Trump
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@Sidewalker
I think its was the Economic Summit in Switzerland this AM I saw a comment by woman and/or man USA can ' fuck off ' with their Nazi salutes.
I didint know what they were talking about. Now I get it. It was Elon Musk showing his heart is best expressed with Roman if not Nazi Heil Trumpet, MAFA or perhaps it is to himself projecting out his brad of narcissism.
The billionares have taken over the MAFA asylum in USA.....USA! USA! USA!.....and this is going to be interesting next four years, starting with president Trumpet being charged with violating USA citizens birth as stated in 14th amendment.
The billionares have taken over the MAFA asylum in USA.....USA! USA! USA!.....and this is going to be interesting next four years, starting with president Trumpet being charged with violating USA citizens birth as stated in 14th amendment.
My apoligizes to the two tags. It was only to notify you of this salute thingy with musk and someone in Europe's reply.
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I enjoyed both Battlefield Earth the book 'and the movie.
John Travolta. I didnt care for that movie. Not sure why, it rubbed me wrong way or something.
It is strange/weird for me to not even recall the last ---relatively recent-- interesting sci-fi movie I liked.
The limited series The Expanse on Amazon and Lost in Space on Netflix I do recall enjoying very much.
The limited series The Expanse on Amazon and Lost in Space on Netflix I do recall enjoying very much.
On yeah now I recall one. Aussie made Mad Max Fury Road.
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@Sidewalker
If your reading this message, then your hallucinating. This site was shutdown on Jan 20th. Please seek some alcohol to stop the hallucinations.
Humanity will come to an end 2015, was my prognostication based on the formula involving;
1} triangulating { to get a fix on somethings location } ergo #3,
2} Cosmic Pi-time 66.4,
2} Cosmic Pi-time 66.4,
3} speed-of-EMradiation, that, led to a value coinciding with the human population in 2015.
Where now 10 years beyond that date.
Where now 10 years beyond that date.
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Thanks for that. Though I would confidently state that there are no habitable stars in the Universe.And just think, if the dinosaurs hadn't have been wiped out by an asteroid, then they would perhaps still be in control.Giving some credence to the reptilian theory.
Hi Zed, your welcome sorry for my bad grammar that presented mis-statments, ergo, confusing the issue.
1} Ive not seen any compeling evidence for extra-terrestrials ever having been on Earth during humanities time here,
2} I do believe there is other intelligent, Meta-space, mind acccessing creatures in this overwhelmeingly huge yet finite Universe,
3} dinosaurs yes, reptilian humanoids, no other than those potential aspects of animal midbrain, that I first read of in a Carl Sagan book from 70's or 80's
...AI.." according to the "triune brain" model, the mid-brain is often considered part of the "reptilian brain" which is considered the most primitive part of the human brain, responsible for basic survival functions like breathing, heart rate, and fight-or-flight responses, making it analogous to the brain structure of reptiles;essentially, the midbrain is a key component of this "reptilian brain" located within the brainstem. '..
Since then Ive read that idea of the triune reptilian aspect being given much less credence. I dunno, as ive not researched any of that fr many years now.
12 or 12 bilateral{?} cranial nerves come off the mid-brain and the largest of those being the longest nerve in humans, the vagus nerve, that extends into the lower abdomen. I recall some years back of a opera singer lady, who told how that sometimes, when she was performing she would have an orgasm on stage. She looked into why and it is the vagus nerve stimulating those aspects of female anatomy. Wild!
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So Lamb --recall the the Lamb shift scientist-- another first coined this term term for the ' Axis of Evil ' in regards to the Milky Way's axis being in aligment with this cosmic Axis of Evil.
At about 11:00 or just before this ' Brillant ' sponsored astrophysicist gets into two camps of astrophysicists take on this strange coincidence{?} ---that is one camp-- and at 11:37 she mentions, that, perhaps shape of Universe being a torus { I dont think so } --she does this just in passing ideas around, as to why this Axis of Evil exists---.
Today was first time I had heard of this cosmic Axis of Evil. Time stamp 12:24 addresses a large cluster of galaxies causing graviational lensing might be why the Axis exists, and, there does just happen to be a ultra-large cluster of galaxies out there in the location that could be causing this, however, if that were the case, then creates a ton of other odd questions of our CMB data.
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@zedvictor4
Show us an unequivocally provable close up of an actual extra-terrestrial craft and actual aliens.
Zed, your are correct, as you often are.
This Brillant sponsored astro-physicists lays it best, in regards to do extra-terrestials exist, and what are the chances humans will have communication with them.
This Brillant sponsored astro-physicists lays it best, in regards to do extra-terrestials exist, and what are the chances humans will have communication with them.
1} this below vid is not the one she does on the SETI experiments that found nothing from our EMRadation attempts, she has a vid on that also,
2} this vid below puts in perspective the number of stars in observable Universe, number of haptiable stars in Universe, the probalities on life those, and the probability of those with life being any where near enough to us to have communication when considering the time it takes a civilization with the technologies like ours to attempt EMRadiation signaling.
2} this vid below puts in perspective the number of stars in observable Universe, number of haptiable stars in Universe, the probalities on life those, and the probability of those with life being any where near enough to us to have communication when considering the time it takes a civilization with the technologies like ours to attempt EMRadiation signaling.
The number in this vid are mind-boggling, and I would whole heartedly agree with her assiessment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihVzPl7Dys
And those that think intelligent life from elsewhere than Earth, we can add to the people into repetilian conspiracies, or Terreance McKenna other ultra-micro dimensional intelligent life, nutter types.
And those that think intelligent life from elsewhere than Earth, we can add to the people into repetilian conspiracies, or Terreance McKenna other ultra-micro dimensional intelligent life, nutter types.
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I posted a LINK to a site that also has 1998{?} photo of Anne Francis hugging Robbie the robot, so may years later. It may have been 1998 when she died.
The hug on stage below is a repeat from the actual movie where she hugged robbie.
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Ok so now we have quadra-ped --not a bi-ped yet--- robot that can do front flip.
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Forbidden Planet introduction on Utube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxQ9GG6hUDM
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@drlebronski
I like doctor strange best, out of all the Marvels and some of that is because of the conclusion.
Original Blade Runner #1 --soundtrack, cinematographics, android concept, detective/mystery, freaky androids{ with ending android giving life instead of taking life at the end, to prove its nature to be more human or God like etc----
Forbidden Planet ---https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxQ9GG6hUDM preview on utube
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Like I said, I don't know much about it, so my attitude on only this comes from my own lack of understanding. I can't even conceive of how they could surmise the trajectory from the detected particles after a collision. Especially when the outcome is described as mysterious
Well at least it is'nt a false narrative, even if their conclusion is false. I think you understand the differrence there, and I will avoid politics of immoral false narratives we see on the in last 15 years in USA and other countries
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This is what I'm waiting for.
I think it is step forward for some men to release some tension who have social difficulties, however, that said, eventually dealing with the social issues is the best for men who lacking abiliities in those areas to find a partnership that works for them.
Many marriages fail over the years, so, it is an issue for many people that include those with better social abiliites.
Finally I recall again a sci-fi book I read years ago, and this man gets hotel room elects to get one with the female robot. So he has to put in the coins --like arcade machine--- and in the middle of sex act something goes wrong the machine cheeks clamp inward and do not release. So from a cartoon mindset this is funny scenario, whereas from a reality viewpoint, it is not so funny. I dont recall after that, as that is only part I recall from reading the book.
I also remember telling a group of ladys and men friends of mine, how as a child I had this fluffy-like bear doll, that I much loved to hit, and watch it fly through the air, spiraling or flipping over and over before hitting the wall or accidentally the lamp or other stuff. Eventually of course it rip and little by little the stuffing came out.
One of the ladies made some comment --I forget it exactly-- but my response, what are you talking about, it was so much fun I was having. I think her attitudes no child should find fun and punching a fluffy beat doll. I had to reiterate to her, that it was great fun for me! Safe fun a child of 11 or 12 or 13 years old in my bedroom.
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All robots are freaky, and yes some are more freaky that others. Robbie the Robot was my first from the movie ' Forbidden Planet " with Leslie Nielson and Anne Francis..." Francis, a stunningly beautiful blonde with a prominent beauty mark, appeared opposite such stars as Spencer Tracy, Paul Newman, Robert Taylor and Glenn Ford in some of the most popular films of the 1950s. But “Forbidden Planet” and “Honey West” made her reputation. "..
Years later I heard about and saw the movie 1927 ' Metropolis ' with a freaky female robot.
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To the best of the technical abilities they have on hand, I believe is what they surmise to be correct conclusion via those mechanisms at hand.
Stigma 1,2,3,4 5? Who knows, and I dont think their claiming any of those.
.." sur·mise
- suppose that something is true without having evidence to confirm it. "...
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..The Amaaterassu particle and another like it, appear to come from rather empty voids of space.got time stamp 2:06 and watch for 30 seconds or so to hear the story of these ultra-highly charged cosmic ray particles that are not easy to know where they came from, unless very amplified like this one is
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Part eight: A little review.
The 2D lattice is a static presentation, and came along to me by my exploration of prime numbers. It was only later on I developed the ideas that the ideas of lines-of-realtionship between the numerical identifiers for the nodal events.
Some of those lines-of-relationship I percieve as geodesic curvatre ( ) ( ) ( ) and that in turn defines the outer and inner surface of the space-time torus.
1 ( 2p...4 ) 5p...7p ( 8...10 ) 11p etc, so an so on.
The internal two abstract lines define a sine-wave pattern, that, I believe is representative of our quantised and quantified physical reality { Observed Time }. However, take note that any line-of-relationship { as a trajectory } no matter how short { appears straight } is just a short geodesic.
The minimal, quanta of our finite, occupied space Universe, I believe, is the graviton-darkEon, that, is composed of 13 nodal events, however, that, graviton-darkEon only and always exists, within the larger contexts of the 18/0 nodal event, space-time torus.
This may be significant as to our ability at these ultra-micro scales of existence, to ever quantize the quantum graviton-darkEon { quanta }.
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..When I state #9, I mean the 9th nodal event, that, occurs inside the 3D vectorial tube, after the occurrence of 3p...6.... and before the ...12th nodal event.
.........1............5p....7p...........11p.....13p..................17p.......Gravity
18/0....................6.......................12............................18/0 Observed Time - physical reality
................3p...................9...................15.........................Observed Time - physical reality
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............2p.....4.............8.....10...............14.......16................Dark energy
So 78 lines-of-relationship for 13p nodal events
.." Nine Schematic Aspects of the Tetrahedron
..1013.41 Every tetrahedron, every prime structural system in Universe, has nine separate and unique states of existence: four positive, four negative, plus one schematic unfolded nothingness, unfolded to an infinite, planar, neither-one-nor-the-other, equilibrious state. "
I would take issue with this conclusion by Fuller
Synergetically speaking, I believe 9 is more related to the following.
.." 310.13 There is a phenomenon that we might describe as the eternal disquietude of the Odd Ball promulgating eternal reorderings, realignments, and inexorable transformings to accommodate the eternal regeneration integrity of intellectually differentiable Universe. "
Perhaps as the Hisenburg Uncertainty Principle sometimes known as the random fluctuation of quantum wave or field, that was alledged to create Universe.
Obviously, --at least to me-- that, at best, it is just the semi-free agent, #9 nodal event of Observed Time Reality, acting out its eternal disquietitude for next phase of eternally transforming/regenerative Universe Reality,
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First, clarity as to what a nucleated triangle --four vertexes ergo a flat tetrahedron-- looks like. \Y/ is text character expression
Lets review some of the specifics if any have followed me in the first five parts.
1} 1 -13p = 78 lines-of-relationship --and I suggest equates to the gravitin-darkEon as minimal plancks hbar length value---- and that said I would think I need to take the geometric 78 and power it 36 times { 78^36 , in order} to arrive at number that associates with some classical physics value, --ex electron 0.511 is AI.."One electron volt (eV) is equal to approximately 1.602 x 10^-19 joules '.. } -- in some way or another.
A task that I not sure I will get too any time soon. or maybe a minimal neutrino value, that, I believe has the least mass of all Fermions.
2} The graviton-darkEon only exists withen context of the minimal space-time torus as the 0-18 ergo four triangle sets This means, there is
1a} 1..2p...4 and nucleus 3p...... | .... as seen from side-wise edge view....
2a} 5p..7p....8 and nucleus 6..... | ...-... "" ""
...........................9 is free agent monkey wrench in between.... | ...... wherein the dash is #9
3a} 10...11p...13p and nucleus 12....... | .....
4a] 15....16.....17p and nucleus 0/18 --yes the 0/18 event is outside of 15...16..17p, however, has a relationship and it is the physical reality { Observed Time } higher line of the sine-wave pattern.
18/0...|.....|..-...| .....|........18/0 and when the four lines loop, we have the cojoined location/position of 18/0 top line of phyiscal reality meeting of first nodal events.
Since each triangle is nucleated, that equals four tetrahedral sets of 6 relationships each i.e. the alledged { by me } as the minimal space-time torus, that, we see is composed of four tetrahedra, that, are all connected i.e. 1 - 17p plus 0/18 = 18 events ergo,
18^2 = 324, minus 18 = 306, and divide by 2, = 153 lines-of-relationship.
<I><I><I><I> = four tetrahedra of the minimal, space-time torus { 0 - 18 } either as:
(>- -<)(>- -<) sidewise view with two inside-the-tube planes of reality { in bold dashes } being defined by the invaginations that result in sine-wave pattern 3p....6...9..12...18/0...or as,
( (( )( (( )) ) the birds-eye-view of the space-time torus with four circle planes expressed as derived from the 2D lattice four lines, when looped around to meet their selves.
And I remind the reader, that, the minimal field is the four 2D lines lattice, that is actually geodesic space and time fields of existence, of which, we only observed the two inside-the-tube field lines as a sine-wave ^v^v^v of physical reality { Observed Time }
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Ha, Im not real big on hip hop or Rap, or Jazz for that matter, however, sometimes along comes a tune in one of those genre, that sparks the soul/emotion etc.
Welcome 2 Minniapolis did that for me and wanted to share. Glad you liked it cristo71. Some one posted it for me today and felt I should share it.
I inturn gave offerred them something that sort of blew my mind first time I heard it, as as so differrent, in synch/tight etc. Here it is.
I inturn gave offerred them something that sort of blew my mind first time I heard it, as as so differrent, in synch/tight etc. Here it is.
here is the indian jazz'rock/fusion
THey start slow, but keep watching the hit top speed of 100 as they go through and each does their solos also and the drummer and ring vase man are in synch.
MAHA GANAPATHIM | Classical Fusion song | 53rd Bengaluru Ganesh
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I like it and hope others will also
Welcome 2 Minniapolis // Live Montreal
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This excerpt from B Fullers Synergetics
266.07 ....." Size depends on frequency, and frequency is cyclic. Angle, as only a fraction of a circle, is inherently subcyclic and subsize. But angle expresses a direction: This is where geometry enters into conceptuality.
An angle __or a noise__ has direction in respect to the head-to-heel axis or other system initiators. "....
>> Cause { Causality of three nodal events that define and angle V = 1, 2 , 3 terminal nodal events aka points } >>>>
>>>>>> Effect { a noise V at minimal tho never less than v^v^, tho never less than 6 terminal end point nodal end points ergo a tetrahedrons 4 vertexes plus 2 more events } >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Resultant { variable circumstances }
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>> Motion { Causality-frequency-time } >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Noise { V effect ^ } >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Variable circumstances { peoples/animals attention distracted that lead to other variable circumstantial cause, effect, resultants }
Circles enclose a 2D area ex O or as ( )
Spirals define a cyclic forward, or inward, or outward direction/motion and exists in a 3D, tube like in its nature ======
Spirals define a cyclic forward, or inward, or outward direction/motion and exists in a 3D, tube like in its nature ======
A 3D tube can loop around to meet itself as a 3D torus ( )( ) is side-wise view, or as a birds-eye-view ( () )
What my space-time torus expresses, is that there exists internal body of time { invaginating v resultant ^ } in respect to the outer and inner ultra-micro surface spiral of cyclic events { geodesics of space } that, from a side-wise view, may create the perception { falsely } visually presented as a 2D sine-wave.
Yes, the internal body of reality-as-time, has sine-wave trajectories, and even the shortest trajectory can appear as straight, tho it is a geodesic, that is likened as that of truncated geodesic, because it is so short.
I.e. all trajectories are spatially curved geodesics, however, some are long enough to be more pronounced/presented as a curved geodesic of space and others not.
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