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@MAV99
Interesting. So God created something imperfect?

Creator God is meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual fantasy.  Simple

Finite, occupied space Universe a God is tainted. Eternally off-center  --inward >then  outward > then inward etc---  ergo pulsations between various finite set of possible tranformations as this, that or other, eternally.

Symmetric perfection is finite set of meta-space physical laws and meta-space cosmic principles.
Symmetric perfections is the ideal ex a perfect circle-sphere is meta-space mind/intellect/concept.

Symmetric four line, semi-linear pattern
.0.................................6........................................12...............................................18
......1.....................5p........7p........................11p.........13p............................17p........
...........2p.........4......................8...........10............................14............16......................
.................3p.................................9............................................15..............................

Asymmetric four line pattern --inside-outed-- version of the above symmetric perfection of sine-wave

.....1.......................5p........7p.........................11p............13p.......................17p...........
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.0................................6.............................................12..........................................18....
.................3p....................................9..............................................15.........................
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..........2p.........4.........................8...........10................................14.........16...................

Number 9  --aka 9th nodal event---  is off center position/nodal event--  from a set of three nucleated triangles... \Y/... \Y/... 9... \Y/...., that, define the minimal tubular pulse of Universe, the quantum graviton-darkEon. 1 - 13p.

13p = off-center { numerical odd  number } numerical set

1} Ex the asymmetrical 12-around-1 equal,  radius spheres, that, define the asymmetrical Vector Equilibrium ---8 surface triangles and and 6 surface squares---. B Fuller commented that the VE is closet we ever knowing God, as has 24 equal length outer circumferential chords, balanced with its 24 equal length radii, when constructed from four circles or hexagons.  See grahic B  http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5511.html


..." Tubulin dimers polymerize to form microtubules, which generally consist of 13 linear protofilaments assembled around a hollow core (Figure 11.37). The protofilaments, which are composed of head-to-tail arrays of tubulin dimers, are arranged in parallel. Consequently, microtubules (like actin filaments) are polar structures with two distinct ends: a fast-growing plus end and a slow-growing minus end. This polarity is an important consideration in determining the direction of movement along microtubules, just as the polarity of actin filaments defines the direction of myosin movement. "...

...Hammeroff and Penrose suggest microtublins in brain are a most significant to origins of biologic consciousness

3} as I speculate above, my  mentione of the  9th nodal event being odd-event-out within a 13p minimal, tubular, nucleated, quantum pulse of Universe, the graviton-darKeon.  

4} 13p is the 6th prime number ---2p, 3p,5p 7p, 11p, 13p---- ergo, associated with one of the most common biologic patterns found in nature. hexagonal based on triangular grids in brain for location finding in some mammals brains including humans

5} 13p is the fourth prime number in Fibbonacci sequence 0, 1, 1, 2p, 3p, 5p, 8, 13p, 21, 34...
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@zedvictor4
For sure. Occurring with no known cause.

Zed, not sure what your referencing here.

..' no known cause '... is not the same as saying there is no cause.

Cause/action  eternally exists, as does effect/reaction and resultant/consequences.

Not knowing, or uncertainty of any, or all of  this set of primary three-ness is a differrent concept

What goes around, comes around again, eternally.

(.....)( * i  *)(.................)(........................................................................)( * i  * )............( * v * )(........................................................(..)..........(*)...........

AI... ' The line "We're captive on the carousel of time" appears in Joni Mitchell's song "The Circle Game," which uses a carousel as a metaphor for the passage of time and the cyclical nature of life ..... we go round and round in the circle game


The Circle Game
by Joni Mitchell

Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star

Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like when you're older must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town
And they tell him take your time it won't be long now
Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
There'll be new dreams maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game


...She wrote this song in response to Neil Youngs song Sugar Mountain, wherein he was 19 going on 20 years old. Cartwheels of a child turn to automobiles tires going round......



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@n8nrgim
You only have a point that we might not have free will, we might be elaborate flesh robots.

All of occupied space Universe is cause > effect > resultants.

Access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego only occurs via brain/nervous system.

Brain/nervous system is based on  cause > effect > resultants.

All of Universe is technology i.e. cause > effect > resultant combinantions, inter-actions, interfering fermions and bosons, that can only follow cause > effect > resultants pathways, irrespective of whether humans can identify those specific pathways, ergo, leaves human uncertain pathways and other.

Cause{ action } > effect{ reaction } > resultants { consequences } = principles of least action aka stationary zero and I believe is related to the old saying, that, gravity follows the path of least resistence. Ex water follows the path of least resistance because of least strong force phenomena of gravity, is pulling water inward toward center of earth, and water hits a resistance and goes around the resistance, or collects enough to rise over top of resistance, or in some case perhaps finds way under the resistance.

Nervous system is based on charged particles ergo, gravity is often over come by charged particles interactions.

I just found this Hammeroff vid about micro-tubules as source of consicousness ergo memory and access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. I found it interesting starting at time stampe 12:00 because he goes into this threeness aspect with the micro-tubules.

Also on another site --Pub Med Central--- I found this little blurb of interest.
.." 
Key to these functions is the fact that microtubules are “dynamic.” As with actin, the polymer dynamics are driven by nucleotide hydrolysis and influenced by a host of specialized regulatory proteins, including microtubule-associated proteins.

However, microtubule turnover involves a surprising behavior—termed dynamic instability—in which individual polymers switch stochastically between growth and depolymerization. Dynamic instability allows microtubules to explore intracellular space and remodel in response to intracellular and extracellular cues.

Here, we review how such instability is central to the assembly of many microtubule-based structures and to the robust functioning of the microtubule cytoskeleton. "..

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@zedvictor4
Yep. Magical is the logical solution.

Again Zed, it depends on how were definning or framing the word magical and that involves context, circumstances etc.

FInite, occupied space Universe created from truly non-occupied space is illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking.

Eternally existent finite, occupied space Universe, that, has immense amount of magical-like qualities is aka extra-ordinary. Ex there use to exist our local, on the corner, small food market, and then many years later we have the first super-market so and so on.

Gun powder discovered by Chinese, was magical to all who came before its discovery. 

Atomic bomb and nuclear energy would appear magical to people living 500, 1000, 2000 years ago.

First humans new of the sun.  Then Nova's, the super-novas and now hyper-nova's and each new discovery seems to have magical-like qualities, beyond humans current understanding, except for in some cases we scientists who know enough to predict the existence of these magical-like things to exist in Universe.
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@zedvictor4
Well, such is a nightmare scenario. Though without memory it's just unknowable repetition.


True, it is only a nightmare scenario thinking of it now, before it eternally repeats, as when occurs, it is no differrent than the life we lived, cause as you say, the human will have no memory of their existence some z10^10 zillions of years ago.

Transformation seems to be a reasonable option.
Then if it repeats eternally, nought is created or lost.

Yes, I think we agree


A beginning Ebuc. It's the itch that won't go away.

Initial state of whatever in an eternal regeneration of finite, occupied space Universe or its parts

The initial states can change over time, within a finite set of what is possible.

Initial state of pudding may some times change due to temperature, moisture, dust in the air etc including the person doing the recipe etc.

On the one hand it is not magical, and on the the other hand, yes Universe and all of its interacting parts are extremely magical

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@FLRW
What about Clubs for White Holes

Evaporating black holes are white from the information being emitted and event horizon.

FLRW, here is Euclidean visual for evaporation of black hole emitting its internal information ---coding---.

The tetrahedron closes in on itself in this graphic, yet the its 4 planes/openings defined by  6 occupied space vectors { lines-of-relationship } remain, as it goes to zero volume and transforms into Vector Equlibrium { VE } ---aka cubo-octahedron---  that, has an external set of twelve, 2D triangle wings as the information or black hoe being emitted outward.

maintaining the the original four equilateral planes > becomes zero volume, yet,

> 44 new smaller and regular triangles of which the 12 are external, and 8 are surface of the VE, and

> 6 regular surface squares/openings, ergo, a total of 24 newly created lines-of-relationship, however,

>  since the original 4 planes are openings  ex truly non-occupied space,  the VE is just a meta-space concept, unless,

> we envision the original tetrahedrons 6 lines of relationships as four,  great, dual invaginated, space-time horn tori, that, are overlapping and interfering, as their 3D, volumetric existence, moves toward this common center point, then, what would observe?

Would some overlap and interference remain?  Would that become tori become tangent  to each other?  Would they move beyond being tangent to each other?

Yes I think so.  However, in doing so --and if we see this transformation as our finite Universe of these only these four, great, dual invaginated, space and time horn tori---  as the Big Bang initiation phase, once again over eternity, then I think we are mistaken to believe they do move beyond a tangent, or even beyond, as  overlapping and interfering with each other.

That would mean a lost of occupied space integrity aka the whole, the One/Uni-verse.  That is not possible, because of dual integrity of Gravity and Dark Energy, eternally existent and conneted, two sides of the same set of those four space and time tori.

tho not is this poorly deined linear format I show here ....( ^v(^v )^v)(^v )^v )^v (^v ^v( ^v )^v)^v (^v(^v(^v)...........

)(   )    = Gravity and Dark Energy geodesics of space

^v^v = physical reality via sine-wave association as observable { quantize-able } time

So that is one view of Universe of as a black hole coming to zero volume, and in process initiates next phase transformation Universe, using only four space and time tori.    Now think of zillions and zillions of these tori ---as finite, collective, inter-connected set---  doing this everywhere at once, or close to the same time. BAM! WOW!

Houston, this is Universe, we have Re-ignition! I repeat Houston, we have Re-ignition of our finite Universe integrity!
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@zedvictor4
Eternally existent, didn't require programming.

.....Naught is created nor lost only transformed, eternally......

So many people find it so easy to say that, Universe ---occupied space Universe-- is infinite, and they all mean macro-infinite, even tho they dont state it that way.

Yet for them to envision eternally existent, they may often have more difficulty in accepting such, since so much of humans observe is this or that, which have a beginning and ending. Ex humans born and die.  

All humans have observed is biologic human life, coming from other human life as the egg and spermzoa.  So in a sense, our genetic programming is a form of self-programming at least until we die, yet, some degree of it can be passed on via egg and sperm combinations, or in the case of some female species that pop out exact clones of themselves with out any need for male sperm.

There is a scary aspect of our belief in and eternally existent Universe, wherein, all that exists now, will repeat again, and again, and again.  Isnt that like scenarios of hell?  Ex being stuck in cab where the stop light is always red and our frustration boils, then subsides then boils, repeat, repeat repeat etc.....

So there is this one possible fear, that, each of us when we die, will actually re-awaken in the the same scenario, that, led to our parents, then us again, and again and again.  Yes, within context of an eternally existent Universe, even if it is  many zeroes 10^? before we reoccur, and we have no memory of all of those other times of existence.
  ........10^200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...ebuc { * i * }  is born and relives exact same set of possible scenarios, then dies.....000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.......{ * i  *} .....................

I suppose thats not so bad, unless our lives have been awful compared to some other peoples lives.  Then this above scenario is more scary for those who hear of this eternal repeat, repeat, repeat scenario..................................

My bad?  Sorry.




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AI.." Hawking's Confirmation:
Stephen Hawking later confirmed Bekenstein's conjecture by showing that black holes emit thermal radiation (now known as Hawking radiation) and that the entropy of a black hole is indeed proportional to the area of its event horizon. "...
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@zedvictor4
Been very ill though. Admirable person.

Yeah read about the cancer and mastectomy.  
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Why the number 4 in the Bekenstien-Hawking formula on Hawkings tombstone?

Archimedes  was first known person to discover, that, the area of four, equatorial,  ---i.e. great circles--- bisections of a sphere are equal to the surface area of the sphere.

Area =  4 * Pi  * times radius of sphere squared

A = 4 * { Pi * r^2 }

The Vector Equlibrium { VE } --see Synergetics 1 and 2 B Fuller link bottom of this page--- aka cubo-octahedron, is defined by four, hexagonal, great hexagons.  

So the differrence in area between a hexagon --with radius 0.5--- of a circle  around the hexagon, and tangent at hexagons 6 vertices is area of the circle minus the area of the hexagon.

0.7853 area of circumscribed circle of a hexagon with radius 0.5    = circumscription = resultant of spin of the hexagon

0.6495 hexagons area when radius is 0.5

0.1358 differrence in greater { gained } area of the circle over the hexagon i.e. by conceptual  spinning of hexagon, the area increases by 0.1358


.." 455.02 The sum of the areas of the four great-circle discselegantly equals thesurface area of the sphere they define. The area of one circle is r2. The area of the surface of a sphere is 4r2.The area of the combined four folded great-circle planes is also 4r2 and all four great-circle planes go through the exact center of the sphere and, between them, contain no volume at all. The sphere contains the most volume with the least surface enclosure of any geometrical form. This is a cosmic limit at maximum. Here we witness the same surface with no volume at all, which qualifies the vector equilibrium as the most economic nuclear "nothingness" whose coordinate conceptuality rationally accommodates all radiational and gravitational interperturbational transformation accounting. In the four great-circle planes we witness the same surface area as that of the sphere, but containing no volume at all. This too, is cosmic limit at zero minimumness. "..
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@zedvictor4
Everything that occurs, occurs for a reason.

There is a cause > effect > resultant of Julia's walks and talks she created in ....' Best British Walks '...  on Prime video.  I enjoyed most  the four sets of  walks after the first coastal walk. The series ends with Isle of Man ...blustery winds at the top.... and largest functional water wheel in the world.

A few times watching, I had a resultant  feel some emotional tears wanting to begin somewhere in or around my eyes etc.  I think it was because I know I wont ever to take some of the scenic walks in UK, nor the ones Ive had in USA over the years.

This link has many other walks also...." Britain’s 100 Favourite Walks with Julia Bradbury "... Not sure how to access them yet.  If money, I probably cant watch them. 

Awoke this AM remembering a mystery/crime secret agent ---regarding IRA  vs British-- in a novel I read involving Isle of Man and that whole area.  Makes me want to see if I still have that novel to read again.

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@FLRW
Many cosmologists think its origin lies in so-called quantum uncertainty, which is known to allow energy to emerge literally from nowhere.

FLRW, as I presented from the vid Andrew Strominger, it early 90's it was a 50:50 ratio of scientists who believed information ---because of GR's math, that information is lost via incomplete null geodesics of a photons trajectory inside the black hole aka singularity.
And states, ---the vid was posted 3 months ago... that, of some 1000 scientists, only two of the still believe that GR's math is the final correct theory ergo, they believe information is truly lost as a singularity.

Ive never ever believed this singularity concept. 

I once again, want to get into why the use of the number 4 in the Bekenstien-Hawking Entropy { S } = Area formula on his tombstone.

Before that tho I present this blurb and link.

..." In 1996, Strominger and Vafa showed that there are indeed C⋅exp(c3A/4Gℏ)microstates (Cis a subleading factor not affecting entropy) in a particular extremal black hole with a macroscopic horizon in five-dimensional spacetime.

..This work has been followed by 1,600+ other papers...snip..

...which have extended this work to various near-extremal, non-extremal black holes, seven-parameter families of black holes (in various dimensions), and even rotating black holes in an ordinary four-dimensional spacetime (which only borrows some "core" of the string calculation). In all of them, the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy has been confirmed by a calculation that is a priori totally different and independent so all these matches look like small miracles (although they directly follow from string theory's consistency as a theory of quantum gravity). "...

I like that rotating black holes { Roy Kerr fame }   --Roy Kerr points out that all black holes are rotating.. and that is where partially why GR is incomplete, tho Kerr also states he doesn't know for sure what happens as core of black holes. Roy Kerrs work also leads to tori being created around black holes.

Ok,  so none of the above or anywhere clearly clarify's to me why the use of the number 4 in Bekenstien-Hawking formula.

Ive given my explanation for this over the years.  Will do so again soon. It has to do with an Archimedes disovery.

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Part 1
Found this 3 month old vid yesterday. Narrated by Briane Green and Participant: Andrew Strominger and Vafa came along before the leading string theorist, Juan Malcendena  and his AsD/CFT  ----leading edge of string theories regarding black holes---   showing how Gen. Relativities math predicts these incomplete null geodesics ---aka a singularity-- is an incomplete theory. 

Go to 58:25 to see the orbiting photon ring{s}---geodesics--  around a black hole { M87 } the physicist  Andrew  and Narrator Brian Greene show the technology to know the geometry of the black hole is very close to experimentally doability. 

This vid is from the World Science festival supportedd by Johna Templteon Foundation.

To get some context for the orbiting photon rings --via G Relativity equations-- you have to go back 56; or 54 etc time stamp.  If your not familiar with this info, you will be satisfied greatly.

For me especially because, the prior geodesics --as lines-of-relationship embracing object{ ex black hole (O) }-- preceding the post above, seems very relevant to me { my bias of course }. Anyway Ive only watched half of the vid --with much pertinent, historical context--- till about 1:10:00. 🍀 😇 👈

Part 2
Go to 52:00 in the World Science Festival vid, I posted above where Andrew tells how he was asked by the astronomers who took the photo of M87 black hole, how can we learn more about the black hole at center from this photo. That is all interesting after that and leads to GR and photonic rings  --not yet seen--- tho by 2031 they hope the money will appropriate the first launched technology to gather the first photonic rings info from M87.

The photonic rings are about understanding how black holes --specifically M87--  shape space and time.

The only other point I want make is regarding the loss of information or not, with regards to black holes.  Start at time stamp 44:40.  Early on Andrew states in early 90's it was 50/50 with most physicists/cosmologist etc, and now it is like  998 believe information is not lost and 2 who believe it is.

Since I first learned of singularities, and latter on this information loss or not in black holes, Ive never believe in singularties --yes GR math predicts it and Penrose 1965 verifies the math is correct, tho that is incomplete theory--.

Part 3

To see the formula epitaph of Hawkings tombstone, go to time stamp 18:56, and shortly after Andy begins in on Hawkings famous and mysterious and unusual formula for black hole entropy.  This vid via Andy Strominger really has so much interesting stuff packed into it, and Im only 2/3rds of the way through.
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SD..Even dumber than Trump is all the morons who think he is smart, the 51% that elected him are even dumber than him.

OMG, that is so correct. I had forgotten the old terminology, MAGA Morons.  So fits the bill and we're only going to see more of this comical reality show in next four years.  It will become a competition for who is most dumb in Trump administration.
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@Sidewalker
SD....The message sent to the US Military was "You can't trust the Secretary of Defense or the Commander in Chief", that's not a particularly valuable strategic message to send either.  
So the gone-ape-on-press man claims there was not any times, no plans, no this, not that etc in the released info.  Then Tuesday Atlantic releases more of the info showing there was planned times for various aspects of this classified ---at minimum should have been classified{ aka incompetence }--- that contradicts our gone-ape-on-press Sec. of USA Defense. 
Putin must find these USA 3rd graders hilarious.

Trump/MAGA etc is a comedy reality show of elementary 6th graders for Putin, who appears to Trump/MAGA as being an inspirational 12th grader.   

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@Mharman
.." Hegseth is 'literally the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in history': Sen. Duckworth blasts "...

The list of dumb and dumber is current top leaders of USA government. 

Please do not give our Social Security and Medicare info to DOGE, Elon Musk etc. 

Please do no interfere with USA citizens SS entitlement benifits.

Please stop posting USA's  classified information and non-secure public chat apps.

Please stop with dumb narricsistic ideas of changing name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America.

Trump questioned on Greenland. .." Now, decades on, change is afoot once again, as Donald Trump has his eyes on gaining control of the country.

Asked in January if he would rule out using military or economic force in order to take over the autonomous Danish territory or the Panama canal, he responded: "No, I can't assure you on either of those two. But I can say this, we need them for economic security."...

...."
After the proposal to buy the island, Trump has now doubled down on his rhetoric, apparently open to satisfying his territorial ambitions in the North Atlantic by military means. "..

Myself and magine others fear that if USA uses military, or other to acquire Greenland, he try and  sell it to Putin at a MAGA profit.



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@zedvictor4
All AI platforms are dependent on the internet. It cant do it because there are no pictures of wine  glasses full to the brim with wine on the internet. Without the internet AI platforms couldn't put two words together, rhetorically speaking. AI is a catatonic downs syndrome retard without the internet.

Zed calls it the clever stupid gene. 

1} Chatgpt AI response to does AI have clever stupid gene..." The concept of a "clever stupid gene" doesn't exist in the scientific literature. However, the idea could metaphorically refer to the limitations and quirks of artificial intelligence. While AI systems can exhibit impressive capabilities in specific tasks—such as pattern recognition, language translation, or playing games—they can also demonstrate unexpected failures or "stupidity" in situations that require common sense, emotional understanding, or contextual awareness.

These limitations arise from the fact that AI is trained on data and follows algorithms structured by humans, which may not account for every possible scenario or nuance. Thus, while AI can achieve remarkable feats, it can still produce seemingly nonsensical or "stupid" outputs in certain contexts.
So, while there's no "gene," AI does have its own strengths and weaknesses, reflecting the complexities of the data and algorithms it operates on. "...

2] Should Gulf of Mexico be renamed to Gulf of America? Chatgpt states..." Renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America would likely be a contentious issue, as geographical names often carry historical, cultural, and political significance. The Gulf of Mexico has been known by that name for centuries and is recognized internationally under that name.

Arguments for a potential renaming could include a desire to promote a sense of American identity over a specific geographic feature. However, many might argue against it, citing the established name's historical context and its connection to the region's culture, history, and geography.

Ultimately, any decision to rename a geographical feature would require careful consideration and broad consensus among various stakeholders, including historians, geographers, and local communities. It's also worth noting that changing such an established name could have logistical implications, such as altering maps, educational materials, and navigational systems."....


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@Lemming
Possession is 9/10th of the law as they say.

Correct and Trump respects that fact with Russia/Putin taking Ukraine's territory.

Trump wants Greenland sooner rather than later.  Perhaps the easiest way for that to occur is to have Greenlanders change their countries name to Hawaii.

I think Putin would approve of re-naming as Hawaii as long as Trump removes more sanctions from Russia.

The new world order moving towards disorder, chaos etc and what better way than simple re-naming of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of USA?

The MAGA trifecta gives all the powers of a dictator to narcissistic Trump-et, or least they certainly want to act that way. Project 2025 are on the inside as is Musk.

If Putin can get Trump to rename USA to Russia,  then, Europe will soon have their name changed to Russia also.

That only leaves China, India etc to be renamed to attain a new world order.
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Chatgpt cannot create a full glass of wine.

This is vid explains why Chatgpt cant produce a full glass of wine.

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@Greyparrot
Is De Niro playing a nutter, or is he a nutter naturally?

OGP, once again, you exhibit clueless-ness. Watch the movie and then get back to me. If your still stuck in clue-less universe, I may attempt to enlighten you, in regards to what the movie is expressing. Best wishes for all of humanity, not just democrats who came out short by less than 1% of vote in

Here is what some website states..." Some commentators have pushed back, noting, for instance, that Trump’s 1.5 percent popular vote victory is one of the smallest ever — just a fraction of Lyndon B. Johnson’s 22.6 percent landslide win in 1964. Trump failed to secure a majority of the popular vote, at 49.7 percent, unlike George W. Bush in 2004 (50.3 percent), Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 (52.9 percent and 51 percent) and Joe Biden in 2020 (51.3 percent). And while Trump won all seven swing states, his 312 electoral votes were only a handful more than Biden’s 306 in 2020 — and far less than Obama’s 365 in 2008 or Ronald Reagan’s 525 in 1984.'..

There is a reason why I call Trump Trumpet. Tooting narcissistic giberrish most of the time.  MAGA elects clueless narcissistic president. 

H,mm or is it all about him, or is it all about Christian right Hymms of a coming apocalypse, ---that thinks erratic climate change is a hoax-- on riding six white horses from heaven in the sky above us.  Wow, my mother might eaten those nutter scenarios with her whiskey and one hand ciggerrettes in the other and the bible in between. 

Love my mother for at least having communication of many ideas with me, and for getting me a public education where at at least learned how to read. Thank  you mom and dad. Love you both

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Zero Day is great movie starring Robert DeNiro as ex-president dealing with either a conspiracy or his prescriptions messing with his head. It is slow starter, --not lot of action/intrigue--  then kicks in as more and more info comes to light.

This movie does not depict the current inept Trump/MAGA government  however, it is very much in line with the current day politics and right-wing conspiracy nutters.

.. " It is about a former president investigating a devastating zero-day cyberattack in the US.[1] The series was released on Netflix on February 20, 2025 and received mixed reviews from critics "..

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@Double_R
But her emails

I forget the specific classified information that Atlantic was included in on from Hillarys emails.  Was it her daughters surprise birthday gift?
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Apparrently it was a third party app, that the inept Trump/MAGA/Republican party was using. 

So Jeffery and probably most countries of the world were not far behind in getting access to this apps War Chat info. 

So who do the republicans blame for this inept-ness. Jeffery and the Atlantic of course.

Trump is clueless and stated such to the press. ... ' I dont know anything about it '.... aka inept/clueless president.

So republicans win the trifecta with less than 1% of election vote, look it the inept people MAGA and their clueless sheep have installed.

Immorals who attack judges for citing the law  --if not also the potential to cause MAGA to ape on judges and their families---, post war plans and third party chats ---accessed by who knows how many countries--- and the president who claims to know nothing.   

Hegseth, on vid goes ape on others instead of looking at his own flaws.  Duhh! Welcome to MAGA reality of immoral lack of integrity.

This all appears to me to be Saturday Night Live Version of Welcome Reality Government where contestants compete to see who is most inept in shortest amount of time in office.  And those like Musk who were not elected to office. 
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@zedvictor4
Something is either unique or not

Each type of animal species have developed one or more unique or special aspects/qualities.

Humans unique speciality is the ability generalize their enviroment via their unique access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego to much greater degree than other animals. 

It is this ability to generalize that leads to:

1} objectively harvesting of wider set of information in more generalized ways,

2} sort the information into wider set of catagories,

3} winnow out patterns and principles,

4} subjectively applying those learned patterns and principles with technology to advance their standard of living-ry and weaponry, in potential support of the integrity of ecological environment if not the Universe.  ..Parphrasing Bucky Fuller with those latter four comments 1 - 4.


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Do you hold position that consciousness of a person cannot be permanently lost, but that it always appears again somewhere, even after person dies?

I hold strictly to my previous position, that in an eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, the limits of what can exist, what goes around, will come around again, and again, and again....etc.

That includes the consciousness we each --ergo all of us, animals, plants, fungi etc---  experiencing together now,  will eternally repeat itself.  Would we call that memory. I dont know.

Maybe there exist other aspects of Universe some would label memory.   Ex a photon is a bosonic force quanta that primarily --if not solely--- interacts between electrons { fermionic matter }

So every fermionic matter particles of a specific type --ex hadrons { 3 quarks }, neutrinoes, quarks---   have bosonic forces as inter-actions between them.    Is that memory, I dunno.


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Consciousness is made of two parts:
1. Ability to sense environment and produce knowledge which replicates it. That knowledge is usually smaller and reduced version of reality.
2. Ability to store and save said knowledge.

My approach presented was from simple > to > complex, and that only takes into the topic with question mark, consciousness emergent{?}, within an eternally existent Universe.
The environment of otherness for the one-ness { O } was two-ness aka otherness as and occupied space somethingness.

If we only had the one-ness as finite occupied space Universe, then background environment that embraces/surrounds is truly non-occupied space, and that does not count  for being awareness via other-ness.  Only O---O is twoness plus the line-of-relationship as Gravity or EMRadiation etc.

As for your #2, consider that Universe is eternally existent ---naught is lost nor created, only transformed--- ergo, I would invoke and old saying, ..what goes around comes around...

There is always and eternally a finite set of inviolate physical laws and cosmic principles, ergo, what can  and does exist now, will exist again, once we consider eternally what can occur and re-occur, given enough time, if not Universal memory, then just logically, common sense critical thinking can tell us.  What goes around will eventually come around again. Simple. Yes?

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Part 3 Consciousness Emergent?
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The Wolfram unfolded graphic shows 13 lines-of-relationship{ LoR's }.

The formula for five vertexes is, 5^2 = 25, minus 5 = 20, divided by 2 = 10 LoR's.

The 10th LoR is the between the the two diametrically opposite ends of the presented di-pyramid, ergo an inside-the-di-pyramid --Euclideian or other-- LoR.

The wolfram pattern presents an internal set of 5 LoR's.  My way presenting 2D pattern for the this 10 LoR's is as follows.

....2p........4...............outer
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1......................5p......outer with internal LoRelationship 1----5p
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.........3p..................... outer

However, if we go back to my comments of invoking 7 vertexial events, then we could imagine various patterns with 7 vertexes. H,mm 🧐

.....2p........4............6...........................................outer
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1.....................................7p.................................outer and 21 surface chords and 6 internal LoR's
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..........3p...........5p...........................................outer

This would be di-pyramid with a mid-girth pentagon { 2p...3p...4...5p....6 } or circle  --we may not want to loose site of our original  2D space as spun as a **occupied space**{?} area  warped as a spire/cone, that, now became 6 triangle surfaces and now here above, becomes 10 triangle areas and,

7^2 =   49, minus 7 = 42, divided by 2 = 21 LoR's. Minus the 15 surface chords leaves six internal LoR's if Ive correctly identified the whole set.

Via spin and inside-outing oscillation we arrived at less complex and slightly more complex the pentagon { mid-girth pentagon or as circle area above } three, horizontal line patterns as an  increasing complex set, as consciousness.

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Part 2 Consciousness Emergent?

Next we could consider a primary motion most humans are familiar with, and that is of **spin**.  Spin the 2D triangle plane around in direction to get an area of circle, since the the three vertexes. three outer chords and three inside-the-triangle radii and nuclear vertex fill the circle as a 2D area.

Note: we could invoke a some part of a holographic surface event horizon of black hole with this graphic in that, it would be a 2D { flattened } 3D tetrahedron on surface event horizon of black hole.

However, if a the black hole is spherical, the the above  graphic as area circle would be a warped 2D plane, ergo a cone aka a spire.

As Euclidean tetrahedron also a Euclidean cone/spire.

In both cases the warped 2D plane --Euclidean or other--  the nuclear/central vertex, if considered to have another primary motion of inside-outing, then the nuclear vertex could be imagined to be oscillating between both sides of the abstract 2D, non-warped plane. Inside-out and outside-out.

Now we have invoked two primary motions. That of spin and inside-outing and then back to outside-out.

If your not familiar with inside-out and outside, imagine a glove on your hand as outside-out as is supposed to be worn, then we take it off some times the it inside-outs itself as we remove it from our hand.

With these two motions, we have created and bilateral oscillation and we could consider that as being an aspect of our our brains --especially womens brains--  of action between the two hemi-spheres via the corpus callosum between the hemi-spheres.

This brings me back to the 2p, 3p, 5p, 7p set of four, that, could be said to inherently included 4 and 6 if not also 1. If we do that, then we have 7 vertexial actors on within our environmental background/stage for performance as minimal next phase of more complex consciousness.

5 vertexes defines a non-truncated, triangular based dipyramid having 5 vertexial events and 9 { surface only } lines-of-relationship.

Link To Wolfram di-pyramid

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Consciousness is based on awareness aka otherness ergo twoness, however, the aware-ness does not exist without a line-of-relationship between the two-ness.  Ex O----O is a three-ness.  A geodesic pattern is another option for the line-of-relationship. (O)(  )(  )(  )(O)

A fourth aspect can also be considered, and that is the eternally existnent, environmental background against which the three-ness exists.  Three-ness { 3 } is structural integrity and four-ness{ 4 } is systemic integrity.

Mathematically they add to a seven-ness { 7p }. 7p includes, 2p, 3p, 5p and 7p primes.  Four-ness inherently invokes a nuclear aspect to a 2D area of triangulated three-ness. An a subdivision of that triangulation.

This  subdivision is birds-eye-view of the minimal, 3D polyhedron of Universe, tetra{4}hedron.
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@Savant
Anarchy and dictatorship are opposites.
If paradoxes can truly exist then.....so be it. :--) O (--:

Trump and Putin sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G,

First came love, then came marriage,

Then came Trump pushing Putins carriage.
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@Greyparrot
Government tried to kill Trump.

Again, oppinion and no evidence

Trump/MAGA/OGP want to end SS  end entitilements benifits ergo, a further evidence of your lack of access to your empathy centers for ageism.  This is just the first step in the removal of humans from those who lack access to their empathy centers ergo compassion.

I recall how it was during Clintons presidency{?} and  these empathy centers--anterior insular cortex-- in brain could be shut of by neighbors, who then committed violent atrocities on their neighbors.

Your continue to dance around these truths to insulate yourself from your obvious lack of moral integrity on these issues, Old news that is becomes clearer now that Trump/Musk are part of the trfecta of USA governance and will attempt degradation of democracy and fufill their desire for tyranny on USA citizens who do not cow tow them. 

:---( . )--: pea brain thinking is the opposite of all-for-one and one-for-all spirituality.  So it goes with barbarism on Earth for countless years......>
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@Greyparrot
Even if you believe there's no waste and fraud being safeguarded by stubborn federal holdout employees, we can't afford 2 trillion a year. It's gotta go one way or the other. I am totally good with Trump taking the blame if it means USA is saved.

Read my lips/text again. 

1} never stated what you state above, --show evidence of fraud claimed by Trump/Musk/MAGA-- still waiting even for any of significance from you,

2} Musk stated on tv that, SS entitlments must be eliminated, 

3} Tromp has sworn retaliation to his enemies and that is all democrats, to open SS personal data to Trumps/Musk DOGE thugs against democrats lacks respect, morals and integrity---you need get a dictionary--,

4} governance costs money, and democracy has place immoral, disrespectful lack of integrity into tyrannical power  ---just barely tho--,

5} you want to eliminate the SS entitlements just as Musk does, ergo, no respect, no morals no integrity is old news for OGParrot.

Welcome to Trump/Musk/MAGA/OGP tyrannical agenda.  Destroy the USA governance that barely put them in power. 
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@Greyparrot
I guess we will find out once those walls are down.

So view is your and MAGA have  no evidence because of some "walls"?

And again, sounds similar to MAGA claims about electron fraud.  Where is the evidence and how significant was it?

Lot of hot air huffing and puffing from MAGA as they attempt to blow down --destroy/disintegrate USA governance---, without little to no evidence to back their repeated shouts of ' Wolf ' only to falsely alarm/scare USA citizen.

You need to get a dictionary OGP and learn what the words moral, ethical, insignificant and  integrity mean to humans who care and not just being bullies for sake of being bullies.  Grade school strategy with false pretension of logical, common sense critical thinking and empathetic adults. Sic-n-head. 

Pea brain thinking :--(  .  )--:


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@Greyparrot
If the existing employees allowed corruption for 50 years, why work with them?

DOGE nor you are showing the evidence to SS employes or us here at DArt.

Start with some logical, common sense critical thinking and not the your and  MAGA oppinnions only.

Is'nt there some old saying about oppinions only. ...' Put up of shut up '...

It may be similar to MAGA and Trumps claims of all these dead people who voted in election.   How many were there? Who were they? Evidence? Etc.



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@Greyparrot
Read my lips/text...I saw Musk on tv stating ...' social security entitlements is the big one that needs to be eliminated '.....

GP, do you grasp was stated by Musk on TV?

Are you against this? Should you allow the corruption and waste to continue?
DOGE should work with with those existent federal employees of SS and not go in heavy handed demanding --and firing them-- SS involved USA citizens personal data. 

If there is corruption and dead people then DOGE needs to assist with reason ---not dictator style heavy hand---  steering federal employees to where DOGE has found evidence of corruption and dead people getting money.

You in denial of MAGA, Trump/Musk heavy handed approach to inact revenge on who they consider to be their enemies.  The USA government and specifically democrats and now they --not duly elected Musk---  are the government, they so despise.

They have not respect for liberty and justice for all.   They only want liberty and justice for them selves.

First they came for the weak with least ability to fight back, then who next? The justice dept?   MAGA is beginning of barbarism rise in USA.

How to you expect people to respond to barbaristic tactic imposed on them by a tyrannical dictator who despises rule of law?

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Oops, I followed  and error that Faux was creating not me.  There exists no inside-the-tube with only two lines. Faux was citing the two line pattern.

Ive been very clear otherwise

Some here have respectful integrity for truth
 
The four line pattern Ive presented is clear:

1...2p...4 have  the inside-the-tube 3p as nucleus ...inside-the-tube reality

5p....7p...8 has 6 as nucleus --mid-girth of the dual invaginated, truncated triangular based di-pyramid

10...1p..13p have inside-the-tube 12 as nucleus and as physical reality of observed time { quantised and quantified }

Peace be upon those who seek truth and pathways of logical, common sense critical thinking based on human observation.
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@Sidewalker
Why do you think removing wasteful and harmful government shouldn't be celebrated by the people?

I saw Musk on tv stating ...' social security entitlements is the big one that needs to be eliminated '.....

This one week after lead of house republicans stated, entitlments were not going to be messed with, that, it was only going after corruption and dead people receiving benefits.  

So now DOGE Trump/Musk firing social security employees who refuse to them access to US citizens Social Security data bases. 

Dictators both of these two men seeking revenge on their enemies and that is democrats.  So if they gain access to USA's personal data base, they then free to isolate out democrats and start ending those receiving entitlements for their retirement. 

They will start with the old as the old are waste of money on USA and have little power to fight back against Trump/Musk.
Then who is next? The old handicapped, the old veterans etc.  Those with least resources to fight against this new tyrannical dictatorship unfolding.

It is USA democrats and those who dont yet see that this is the rise of a dictatorship that will stop with revenges just against democrats, it will be against all who support liberty and justice for all.    MAGA is safe as long as the cow tow to Trump/Musk.  

This appears to be the beginning of the end of liberty, justice for all, the beginning of only MAGA's brand of justice for themselves.  Scary times ahead and that is the way they like to operate.  If the predators are coming after USA citizens, how do we expect they will respond? This is not good future headed our way, as  I fear MAGA spreading fear and barbarism in USA.
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I just read Chief Justice is being verballly attacked by Fox news commentators, because Roberts is citing 100 or more years of law that Trumpet thinks he can just crush into dust.

These MAFiA nutters want anarchy for USA and for Trumpet to be a dictator, and stomp on USA rule of law if it gets in his or MAFiA's way.

Wake USA citizens before your put in concentration camps or worse.   These nutters feeling more and more empowered with freedoms to verbally attack others unjustly and I fear much worse is coming soon.  Trumpet calling to impeach a judge for following USA law.

Be afraid  USA citizens who stand for liberty against those who believe freedom means the do what ever please to other USA citizens, because they are empowered by Trumpet and others in power.   Yikes!
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Fauxlaw states i message #39....[I mean ebuc, but he has blocked me]

Thats false. If I have ever had him blocked, I undid block months ago and have since stated many times that he still has me blocked.  He said he would unblock when he figured out how to do it.

As for this apparrent quote{?} ……2p..…..................................................4…….6.. has three surface LoR's

I dont know that is the case, and he does not address it specifically with any logical, common sense critical thinking, or ask what it means.

Ive been very clear for the most part  --grammar or mis-speak does occur---  and I will do so here since faux is clueless --old news---  yet think his clueless oppinions are of significance to validating or invalidating what I express.

1..2p....4 define a triangular surface relationship and 6 { inside-the-tube } is the nuclear to that triangle. 

That is what the true statement should read, and I think ive gotten correct in some messsage around here if not others.

Fauxlaw has no interest in my ideas ergo, they should ignore. Simple.

And yes, several month later he still has me blocked.  There is three nucleated, surface triangles in the dual-invaginted di-pyramid,
Two end nucleated triangles   where nucleus is on surface, and the mid-girth triangle where #6 is inside-the-tube.


Read my lips/text is best for those who have any true desire to grasp relatively easy concepts of the dual -invaginated space and time horn torus I attempt to present with clarity. Simple  This link does not have the set of dual invaginations
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@Sidewalker
SD...I think I was agreeing with you, but you just say it differently, like real extremely differently.

I agree totally SD.  You and I are on  same page regarding gravity not having a  mono-pole particle.

I was  mainly addressing FLRW with the Ha, thanks for you confidence FL comment. Sorry for confusion
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@FLRW
@Sidewalker

Ha, thanks for your confidence in me FL.

However, I think I made two math accounting errors for the simplest tube as graviton-darkEon to exist. 

The total 15 LoR's is correct via Fullers given formula 6^2 = 36, minus 6 = 30, divided by 2 = 15. 

However, total 15LoR's, minus 9 surface LoR's, --not my mistaken 6--  leaves 6 internal loR's, not my stated 12.  Duhh! :--( )--:  

So once again, the following Two line, 2D matrice pattern =  6 events { non-nucleated triangles on each end } > 9 surface LoR's > 12 crossing internal LoR's with total of 15 LoR's.  And of course we have to imagine trajectories connecting all of these. Sorry, still no graphics from ebuc.  :--((

…1……3p...…................................................5…... has three surface LoR's
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…….......................................................................... no nucleated nodal events = no internal occupied space body to any proposed graviton-darkEon
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……2p..…..................................................4…….6.. has three surface LoR's

Terminal end triangle opening 1..2p...3p……………………………..4….5p...6 Terminal end triangle opening

My choice is course for the minimal quantum pulse of Universe is the Four line pattern, that,

> 13 nodal/vertexial events >

 > 3 nucleations to the 3 triangles >

 > 1 free radical/fluctuating virtual agent { 9th nodal event } nucleus  event inside the tube >

> 15 surface LoR's >

 > 63 crossing internal LoR's, with a total of 78 LoR's

And remmember, if we were to not have the 9th nodal event, the total LoR's would be 66, instead of 78. I find that interesting because of my other considerations of Cosmic Pi-Time 66.4.......

So I wanted to point out one other thing in regards to the four line pattern with the nucleated set as body of the graviton-darKeon, and that is in regards to any holographic ideas I would love to assign it. 

And that is, most complex humans have 64 codons { genetic  triplets } and if take the 63 crossing internal LoR's plus the internal 9th nodal event, we do arrive at resultant of 64.   Yes, I realize this mixing apples and oranges, however, we have to consider, those internal 64 can perhaps be more  likened to a Quantum Field set of vibrations/fluctuations, within the graviton-darkEon, than  the nucleated end triangles that are surface, the mid-girth triangle --tho nucleated internally by 6, it appears as less of a free radical agent than 9th nodal event--- and the other end nucleated triangle is also part of the surface set.

I guess what I feel is signiricant is that the vibrating field { Quantum Field Theory } creates scenario, where there exist no truly non-occupied space within the surface or internal body of the gravition-darkEon. So read my lips carefully there.  Im trying to invoke some way of clarifying that no truly non-occupied space exists within Universe even at the most planck-like scales of existence, that, is the graviton-darkEon.   

..1...........5p..7p.........11p....13p............17p...loops to meet itself in circle, tho not  shared location 17p / 1
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0...............6...................12.......................18.loops to meet itself in a circle as 18/0, only shared location
.......3p.................9......................15.............loops to meet itself in circle, tho not shared location 3p / 15
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....2p...4............8....10..............14....16..........loops to meet itself, tho not shared location 2p/16



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What is the gig raising money for exactly?  Im sure Sad would join in for a good cause. :--) (--:

I enjoyed the movie with Helen Mirren about the older UK women who did the risqu'e calendar to raise money for something or another. 

They with their tops off, yet always mostly hidden behind a cake or whatever.   Great movie based on real events. Love it.

.." Calendar Girls is a 2003 British comedy film directed by Nigel Cole. Produced by Touchstone Pictures, it features a screenplay by Tim Firth and Juliette Towhidi, based on a true story of a group of middle-aged Yorkshire women who produced a nude calendar to raise money for Leukaemia Research (subsequently Blood Cancer UK) under the auspices of the Women's Institutes in April 1999 after the husband of one of their members dies from cancer.[3] The film stars an ensemble cast headed by Helen Mirren and Julie Walters, with Linda Bassett, Annette Crosbie, Celia Imrie, Penelope Wilton, Geraldine James, Harriet Thorpe and Philip Glenister playing key supporting roles. "..

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Simplest geometrical pattern for a tube, with least amount of structural integrity,  is two triangular openings at each end of the tube, ---total of 6 nodal/vertexial events--   and and total of 15 lines-of-relationship { Lor's }.

The 6 nodal/vertexial events are surface only.   Of the 15 LoR's, three are surface and 12 LoR's crossing through the tube, as internal { inside-the-tube } body of the tube.

So the question arises,  why my prior presentation of 13 nodal/vertexial events with their 78 LoR's as the minimal graviton-darkEon quantum of Universe? Yes?

…1……3p...…................................................5…... has three surface LoR's
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……2p..…..................................................4…….6.. has three surface LoR's

12 crossing, internal LoR's

Terminal opening 1..2p...3p……………………………..4….5p...6 Terminal opening

The questions that arise for me. Is tube without a mid-girth  triangular opening set of 3 nodal/vertexial events, truly a minimal structural integrity, as a fundamental, graviton-darkEon quantum pulse  of Universe?

Is the simplest triangular set for a tube, without any nucleated nodal/vertexial events, structurally the most ideal,  quantum pulse fundamental, that, Universe exhibit as the graviton-darkEon?  Yes?

There is no inherent sine-wave pattern of nodal events.

Is 6 nodal/vertexial sufficient to define structural integrity as tubular surface for the minimal quantum pulse of Universe?

Is 6 LoR's ufficient to define the  structural integrity surface for the minimal quantum pulse of Universe?

Part 6

Of the two versions Ive presented, which would other chose to be the most wholistic minimal set, and come closest to being likened to holographic scenario/representation, via our proposed, minimal quantum pulse, graviton-darkEon?

1} 6 events { non-nucleated } > 6 surface LoR's > 12 crossing internal LoR's with total of 15 LoR's

2} 13 events > 3 nucleated to the 3 triangles > 1 free agent nuclear event > 15 surface LoR's> 63 crossing internal LoR's, with a total of 78 LoR's?

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I was'nt clear post #1, we do not see/observe { quantize nor quantify } the outer { top line of the four } Gravity (      ), and,

nor do we observe { quantzed nor quantify } the inner { bottom line of the four } Dark Energy   )(, i.e.
 
we only observe the inside-the-tube { two inside lines of the four } observed { quantized and quantified } time as physical reality.

...space (    ((     )(     ))     )space... so in this format the inside-the-tube reality is the intended-as-circles in bold.

In the 2 four line matrice pattern/formatting will only observe { quantized and quantify } the two inside-the-tube, as ever particle of Universe --except the graviton-darkEon---  the sine-wave pattern of invoked the two inside lines.

.1...........5p..7p.........11p....13p............17p...loops to meet itself in circle, tho not  shared location 17p / 1
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0...............6...................12.......................18.loops to meet itself in a circle as 18/0, only shared location
.......3p.................9......................15..............loops to meet itself in circle, tho not shared location 3p / 15
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....2p...4............8....10..............14....16..........loops to meet itself, tho not shared location 2p/16

The triangulated enumeration works very well for all know families of Fermionic matter i.e:
18 quarks and 18 anti-quarks,

3 aspects of electron, muon electron, tau electron and their 3 anti-particles

3 aspects of neutrinos, muon neutrino, tau neutrino and their 3 anti-particles
Then we have to consider the observed time reality of Bosonic Forces:

EMRadiation { two precessed at 90 degrees to each other } sine-wave of electric { charge ? } and magnetic { charge? }, however, photons are not consider to be charged particles. 
Weak force has three aspects W+, W- and Zo aka Z naught

The nuclear force: is exchange of two quarks between hadrons{ heavy fermionic matter } ex proton neutrons and they are labeled as mesons, and ultra-short lived particles.  No sine of three-ness there.

Strong sub-nuclear force of gluons, that hold three or two quarks together. Mathematically nine of them should exist, and for reasons always beyond my comprehension only 8 manifest themselves.  

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Gravity { attractive/contractive/inward } is believed to create stars. The stars then push outward various frequencies of EMRadiation { photons } and other particles.The brain only sends one kind of signal to our muscles, and that is to contract. Once that signal stops, the muscle relaxes back to its rest state.
Japanese light weight hand saws, are designed to the cut on the pulling inward motions, wherease heavier western saws designed to cut on the push stroke.In olden days, we saw strong man on tv, pulling a box car of train. Sometimes with bite stick in his teeth, or maybe attached to his body in other ways than just using his hands-arms. We never saw the strong man pushing a box car.

The longer, contractive, Gravitational, space geodesic vectors go inward to become the expansive, Dark Energy space geodesic vectors go outward to become Gravity. We do not observe { quantised nor quantify } these phenomena directly, only indirectly.

..--><--- = inward, towards each other aka contractive space Gravity

...<-----> = outward away from each other aka expansive space Dark Energy

(   ) = around aka orbit etc.
The latter three are the only cosmic directions of Universe.

Further more, whereas Eiensteins general relativity math lead to null geodesic photon trajectorys  --i.e. just vanish as nothingness-- was verified by Roger Penrose in 1965 for which he won the nobel prize in 2016 for that single page proof.

However, Leonard Susskind the renowned Italian string theory dude, proved that null geodesics are the incorrect solution. Their string theory model called ADS/CFT nothing is ever lost. Yet some things appear to be trapped in black holes forever, however, black holes evaporate.

This vid with Leornard Susskind may be at time stampe 2:5o or so, Leonard states their string theory maths state nothing is ever lost, forever even in a black hole. this may not be the original vid I was thinking of, yet it should deliver the same comments I remmber from Susskind on this issue of photons not coming their end in black hole as null /incomplete null geodesics.
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So the sine-wave follows a circle { a vector }, and if we have two such sine-waves ---or more--, then we define a spherical. The more sine-wave circle patterns --and the higher the frequency--- the more energy of the particle of reality. And I believe it is specific orientations of the two or more sine-wave circles { as vectors }, ---and their interference frequencies--- to each other, that define specific types of particles

Here are two links to assist others with the geometric shape/pattern of a torus and positive and negative curvature.  Also, I believe the 2nd link below --the horn torus-- is what all of my proposed space-time tori is the specific pattern, because it fills the most space.

Neither of these two links show the invagination pattern Ive invoked. First link is a whole torus and 2nd is a cross-section.

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..1...........5p..7p.........11p....13p............17p...loops to meet itself in circle, tho not  shared location 17p / 1
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0...............6...................12.......................18.loops to meet itself in a circle as 18/0, only shared location
.......3p.................9......................15.............loops to meet itself in circle, tho not shared location 3p / 15
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....2p...4............8....10..............14....16..........loops to meet itself, tho not shared location 2p/16

More imagination is needed to imagine the longer space geodesics  from outer to inner ---ex 1 > 2p, 7p > 8, 13p > 14 etc and the  inner back outward ---ex 4 > 5p,  10 > 11p, 14 > 17p etc.

There are shorter geodesic trajectories --I label as invaginations-- that create the inside-the-tube sine-wave associated with observed { quantized and quantified } time aka physical reality or energy. The numericals  are 2p > 3p >4  as invagination,  5p > 6 >7p,  8 > 9 > 10 etc.

Since we do not the quantise/oberved the top line as outer positive geodesic of Gravitationl space, we place it aside from our above inventory, and the do the same with the bottom line, as the inner negative geodesic of Dark Energy space.

After placing aside the top and bottom lines we observe the sine-wave associated with reality { observed time } as the invaginations creating the inside-the-tube { body of reality }, 0...3p....6.....9.....12.....15....18 etc.

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Part 1: Pulling Inward Results in all Pushing Outward Phenomena

We have positive numbers and negatives ergo, math agrees with existence of di-polar electric and magnetic particles.

Historically it was believed that if a graviton { quantum of Gravity  } existed it would be a mono-pole.

I believe Ive discovered why attractive/contractive Gravity{ graviton } is not a monopole particle. because it is involved with the outer, positive geodesics of a torus, and its geodesic trajectory --as Gravtiational space--- leads to the inner negative geodesics of a the same torus, ergo,

expansive { outward vector }, Dark Energy geodesic space, leads back to positive geodesics of attractive/contractive { inward vector } and the Quantum Pulse as graviton-darkEon.

So why do we then observe spherical particles --ex the fuzzy electron cloud of atom--- , and not a torus?  Because the outer Gravity space geodesics and inner Dark Energy space geodesics are not quantized nor quantified by humans.

We do observe sine-waves associated with electron and other particles. The way we have spherical particle --ex the atom with its fuzzy electron cloud-- can be understood with the 2D pattern for the 3D torus via four circles on same plane.

.......outer gravity space geodesic >(    ((   )(    ))    )< outer gravity space geodesic.......

........(    ((    )< inner dark energy space geodesic >(    ))     )........ these two perspectives the  cross-section, bi-section b perspective of a torus from horizontal side view or birds-eye-view.  Following below is the 2D pattern for these four circles in more linear format, where looped circles have to be imagined.
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From 5:00 on. Emotions as anticipations of results is interesting. That sounds like it goes back to temporal difference learning. But again, same message. Don't be fooled.

I agree, and he states such at 6:25 approx.> ...kinda of like emotions... and certainly not fear, hate, jealousy etc.

AI is still and will remain a mathematical programing that handles huge amounts of data, discovered by humans, that, have most complex access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.

Oh yeah, in his comments I mentioned above, he did not mention AI having access to meta-space ego.

Did you see the vid I posted about how AI solveded  the huge number of protein creation problems.  ...The Most useful Thing AI Has Ever Done..

Cant find catagory I posted it in, so he it is here.  Triangulation and a feedback loop was added into the algorithm, --between the two towers of data--- and only then did AI solve the protein creation problem and the team finally won the big prize at the conference on solving this issue.  Truly interesting and astounding vid

Anyway, at 14:20 he mentions cats and their intuitive abiliites and many others that AI and robots are many years away from. Climbing chasing etc that such amazing things the top of the line predators can do.

At 17:00 he also states briefly, like Penrose, someday AI may have consciousness, --to some much higher bar like cats > humans--- 

At 18: he explains the number tokens ---two bytes--- AI programing uses for LLM's and that a human childs brain processes about the same amount of info in first four years of life.

Thanks for the vid. Not sure if can make it through whole thing



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Here is the other vidI promised  to complete the Classical{ Newtons World } - Quantum Mechanics{ Least Action } - Quantum Field theory { Vibrations{ simple }}

There is new story ive developed today, and I will post in another topic.  Suffice it to say, ---at least for now--, that, within the minimal quantum pulse of Uinverse --the 13 vertexial event of the gravition-DarkEon---,  the 9th nodal event is the free agent  --and it makes 12 vertexial events ergo 66 Lines-of-relationship---  become 78 lines of relationship, or the vibrating field, with the 9th nodal event, now a vertexial event being the flittering/fluttering nuclear virtual particle to the 12 triangles of the, triangular based, truncated on two ends, di-pyramid.

truncation on each opposing end, not show in following link
https://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangularDipyramid.html

Again, I have a three part message on this latter above. Another topic coming soon, I hope. TOE and getting closer to a clear pathway to holographic via the 78, primary lines-of-relationship [ LoR's } of the minimal quantum pulse that permeates all space-time tori of Universe as our observation of forward in time { and space }, or the arrow of time [ and space } or the flow of time { and space } etc.

And of most interesting note to me, is that whereas B Fullers has primary set of 73 great circles of mathematical sphere concept., The teh graviton-darkEon quantum pulse has 78 LoR's.  Ha, that is four more than Fullers 73 primaries.

If go even further and say that the 78 LoR's as virtual, 3D space-time tori, then we have Quantum Mechanics, and, Quantum Field Vibrations along with Newtons World.  Hey that is another Cosmic Three-ness. im on a roll my fellow cosmonauts. :-))) (((--:  Oh yeah, I also saw how the 9th vertexial nodal event serves  as bilateral halve of the mid-girth nuclear nodal event the #6. Both internal to the quantum pulse graviton-darkEon.  

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