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@Snoopy
It is speculated that climate change is going to continue on a path with an increasing average temperature and total amount of rainfall.  That will probably translate to an increase in arable land.
1} Not if the rainfall occurs mostly  in some places and not in others, i..e over all world-wide,

2} not if increased rainfall comes in downpours that tend to just runoff more rapidly into creeks and river and ultimately the oceans{s} that, are only going to rise..

You to really think  -educate yourself-- more about Erratic Climate Change short and potential long term effects.



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@RationalMadman
I am heavily into game theory and I believe in evolution strongly.
Fullers speculative pre-history of humans is a scenario  that has humanities beginnings in the South Pacific with less aggressive peoples, that, once they came onto the south east Asia mainland, encournted tigers and this MAY have led to humans aquiring a more aggresive nature.





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@TheRealNihilist
You failed to provide evidence and resorted to name-calling. 
1} You did not answer the same questions I askde you twice and not three times. Did you read the prior posts by me in this thread, for starters?

2} Find evidence and rational logical common sense in those posts,

3} I dont recall of finding any "name calling" in my last reply to you.  These 3 items are just furthe evidence that your dazed, confused and lack degrees of intellectual integrity.

PLease share when you want to have a rational, logical common sense disscussion.



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@TheRealNihilist
Garbage would eventually get high enough. If less people wasted it wouldn't be a problem. That isn't an overpopulation problem. 
Your confused, dazed, uneducated and in denial of the obvious.

Oh your a left winger. That argument would work for abortion since a fetus is a life. Are you going to ban abortion?
Yeah I am pro-humanity and  guns { weapons } will only lead to humanities  destruction.  This is a  minimal brainer for those who choose to follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.  Why you think I want to "ban abortion" lacks any rational logical common sense.

You like to say off the wall, diversionary, irrelevant stuff.  Bad sign for you intellectual integrity.

The research has already been done if you actually read my post #2. You would realize nuclear is safer than before.
Your living a dazed confused fantasy world brought to you by the energy companies and other profiteers.

Do you know how many coal mining accidents occur?  
Yeah dont answer the question and diverge away because you lack the intellectual integrity abillity to follow rational logical common sense pathways of thought. 

Wind not viable for every day.
You really are confused and uneducated human.

Hydro requires a ton of water and removing residents from their households near the water since it requires a lot of space to create.
Yeah dying from the detrimental effects of ionizing radiation is so much better, You confused dazed, ignorant and refuse to even attempt to follow rational logical common sense pathways of thought.


Hydro-thermal is basically extracting volcanoes. Are you telling me nuclear is worse than harvesting from a volcano?
Natural gas basically farts. Are you going to shove a energy storage up a cows backside or something?
Electrolysis requires electricity so you would need another energy source like solar panels generating it to make it happen.

Nuclear is safer now than in the past. That isn't ego.
Meangingless dribble as nuclear power will never be a safe answer for long term survival of humanity.  You lack the ability to follow rational logical common sense in these regards.

Keep avoiding the question and further show you lack of intellectual integrity.  Do you really think there are not going to be more signifcant ionizing nuclear accidents in the future?  Get real dude.


Humanity won't unify over energy it would have to be ideas.
IS that really the best you have to offer.  Idesa about energy population and all I mentioned previously is priority. Nor Mars nor nuclear power nor nuclear weapons production.  You are not able to attempt any raitonal logical common sense in these regards.

Lunatics, Mar-a-tics and Nuke-a-tics share a common traits, Waste of humanities valuable resouces when much greater priorities are at hand for immediate survival and long tern survival with least amount of surrering.  You dont get it and never will because your ego is in the way.

Ego is a double-edged sword that can offer the  greatest danger to humanity and greatest ideas.

Your ego that unifying humanity requires not using nuclear is more than my lack of ego while stating the facts of nuclear.
Yeah my ego has led me to follow rational, logical common sense on many various topics.  That is not a problem and none of them are invalid for long term survival of humanity.

Nukes are not smart for long term survival of humanity.  Common sense.  Please try it some time.

You have not anywhere provided evidence for your claims instead a analogy and some stuff about ego. Can you actually provide evidence or are you incapable of doing so?
Evidence that nukes are not the best way forward for humanity. You obviously have not read any my original posts in this thread.  I asked you have you did ---for starters-- and you refused to answer. Bad sign for you intellectual integrity. Avoid, diverge deny etc.

There is long list of why nukes is not the saviour for you humanity that you seem to think.  Yo need to go back and read my posts Ive laid out some of the answers to your questions why nukes and nuclear weapons wil make humanity extinct if Irratic Climate Change does not get us first.

Your head is in a hole in the ground listening to the energy companies pull he finincial profiteers wool of over your nose, ears, eyes, and mind.. Sad :--(


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@TheRealNihilist
Prove to me we have an overpopulation problem.
Were you around some years back when headline news was this barge of garbage in ocean that no country included USA could find a place for?
Get real { serious } dude.  Your playing mind games now.

This argument can work for guns. Are you for banning them as well?
First you correct "this argument works" and guns is distracting side issue to this thread and yes humanity has no need of guns except dart guns for tranquilizing wild animals and crazy white nationlist supermacists.

Nuclear energy is less impactful to the environment yet you are against it. What do you propose people use when we remove fossil fuels?
Not in the long run it is not, and nobody really knows the amount of cancers and genetic mutations that have resulted or will result from humans venture into nuclear power to date.  Do you really believe there are not many more nuclear accidents going to occur?  Your really ignorant if dont.

Wind, solar, hydro, hyro-thermal,  natural gas, hydrogen and if we can burn all  the garbage floating around on barges that no country wants without considerable pollutions to atmosphere, lets do it. 

Time moves and we can't stop it. If you are talking about energy advancement. Coal is older than nuclear therefore by using nuclear we are advancing.
Yeah, and when a smart ship Captain realizes his navigational error is going 180 degree in the incorrect direction, they drop their ego and turn to go forward in the correct direction. Duhh! Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.  You dont get that yet.

Mars and nuclear power and nuclear weapons are NOT the priority for a unified humanity that wants the longest days forward with the least amount of human sufferring. Please read my lips/text.

I agree which is why I am for nuclear energy if it means it replaces fossil fuels. 
Ergo you likened to the ship Captain that cannot drop their ego and change course. 

You never answered my question.  Did you not read my posts in this thread? For starters.


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Why do you believe in God?
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@3RU7AL
@disgusted
Reality and Imagination.
Sleep walker states " I dreamed I was walking in my sleep".


Supernatural become natural as it becomes more common to more people ex general store led to super-stores.

Novas lead to super-novas.  Conceptual imaginary black holes led to discovery of black holes or at least three distinct types.

Local gods and concept of God led to more wholistically comprehensive sets we label as God/Uni-V-erse.

Humans access to metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts and ego { }  ergo complexity can be considered to be supernatural in respect to most other biological life.

Natural = simple and common

Super-natural = most complex and not common.

Uni-V-erse ergo God is the most complex set.

"U" ni-V-erse ergo "G" is even more complex set because it is inclusive of the macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces our finite Universe/God.  123, ABC thats how easy universe can be.

Aka the Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities.

Observed reality { /\/\/\/ } ergo Observed Time { /\/\/\/ } is based on triangulation 0, 3, 6, 12,15, 18 etc is rather simple for those who tend toward follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

...Space( > * < )   ( > * < )Space......

Gravity = (  ) positive shaped geodesic Space

Dark Energy = )(  negative shaped geodesic Space

/\/\/\/ = resultant of inversions from geodesics of gravity and dark energy

Significance of numerical 4.  Archimedes was first to discover that the area of internal, four circular hexagons that define a spherical cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron, are equal to the outer surface area of the same spherical cubo-octahedron and this is similar to black holes in that what exists inside a black holes is expressed on its even horizon surface.  This was first discoverd by Jacob bekenstien.

surface area of sphere = 4 * Pi * r^2

volume of a sphere = 4 / 3 * Pi * r^3

Surface Area = 4 × Pi^2 × Radius × radius LINK

Volume of torus = volume of cylinder = (cross-section area)(length)


..."This is hardly a rigorous proof, but I am hoping that it conveys a qualitativeunderstanding. The notion of cutting objects into thin, measurable slicesis essentially what integral calculus does. Archimedes was practicing thismethod about 1900 years before the era of Leibnitz and Newton."...

Line 1} .....1..........5....7.............11......13............Gravity outer surface of torus all primes except  2 and 3 and non-prime odds


Line 2}..0.................6.....................12..................Observed Time/Reality...triangulated no primes
Line 3}............3................9..........................15....Observed TIme/Reality...triangulated and one prime


Line 4}.........2....4...........8....10..................14........Dark Energy inner surface of torus is all evens and one prime


These four lines exist as four semi-great circles of a specifically defined numerical, helical torus with inversion-outversions{ >< }






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@dylancatlow
But apparently you liberals only heard the words you wanted to. 
I'm not famaliar with that web site ergo I have no reason to trust its validity.

This does not address any of my other comments as stated, and your the one who is ignoring. Not I.

Trump and all of his racists, white nationalist supremacists need to be banned.

Please share when you want to stop ignoring truth and encouarging racist, bigoted white nationalist supremacist.

So now lets here from Moscow Mitch { Putins bitch } who is another supporter of racist, bigoted. white nationalist supremacism.

Trump has grown the swamp of immorality and violence.  Trump has surrounded himself with only the worst and you Dyncatlow are in denial of these truths.  Why? Because your ego and spiritual soul is ashamed. As it well should be. Sad :--(





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TRUST NO ONE
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@3RU7AL
When does cheating payoff?
50% of the time for the cheater.

When does cooperation payoff?
100% of the time for the cooperators

When does forgiveness payoff?

100% of the time for the forgivers and those they forgive.

And eye for and eye leaves the whole world blind

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Safe Nuclear energy?
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@TheRealNihilist
Why?
Did you not read any of my posts in this thread? For starters

No Nukes is a minimal brainer Just Say No To Nukes is not a rocket science conclusion for those who follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

1} we have a human population problem for some of the  dangerous systems  ---nukes and coal---  we have in place to supply the energy needs being asked for,

2} parts of humanity are not  being considerate of its actions and dangerous resultants thereof i.e. humanity has yet learned to prioritize what is best for humanity,

3} both 1 and 2 can only be addressed significantly via a unified humanity that does not place financial profit above ecological environment that sustains all biological life on Earth,

4} humans are going butt forward into the future instead mind forward ergo the resultant is a bruising of humanities 'butt' over and over and over again and again and again. Ex over hunting whales,

5} all of the above require a comprehensive wholistic set of considerations, that, could be done independantly with computer modeling just as humans have done with climate modeling, however, the scale and desire{ spirit } to do this has to be driven by a broad base coalition of humans spiritual intent on finding options forward for the longest term survival with the least amount of human suffering,

6} ??? what am I forgeting ?? in all of the above ??







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@dylancatlow
I want to know your source.

I'm seeing today that Trump disbanded domestic violence officials and downgraded the person who led that task force.

And the financial resources were cut for those task forces.

Dylacatlow, your in denial and continue to promote and encourage the  sick-n-the-head actions of this immoral racist white nationlist president.

Wasnt Steve Bannon a white nationalist? He is sick-n-the-head just like trump and all of their cult followers. Sad :--(

...."We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon said in July, using a term that is really just a rebranding of traditional white nationalism. 
Under Bannon, Breitbart published a call to “hoist [the Confederate flag] high and fly it with pride” only two weeks after the Charleston massacre when the country was still reeling from the horrors of the murders.
Under Bannon, Breitbart published an extremist anti-Muslim tract where the author wrote that “rape culture” is “integral” to Islam."....

.....The Trump administration has invited multiple right-wing figures and conservative groups to a “social media summit” slated for July 11. Some of these figures have ties to white nationalists and far-right figures, and others have pushed extremism and conspiracy theories themselves, such as the “QAnon” conspiracy theory, anti-Semitic attacks on George Soros, and smears targeting multiple Democratic presidential candidates."...


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@dylancatlow
That you choose to denounce him for "failing to speak out against" a group of people he condemned by name suggests that your emotions may be getting in the way here. I call what you're saying a "lie" because it is directly contradicted by Trump's statement following the Charlottesville car attack.
Never have I ever seen him denounce white nationlist supremeacist. Never until today is what I stated and if you have evidence he spoke specifically against white nationlistic supremacist in past, please share the evidence.  I ve never seen it.

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@TheRealNihilist
Are you against nuclear energy?
For the most part yes. I guess I had not been clear enough in this thread.

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@dylancatlow
Contrary to what he is allowed to claim, Trump *is* something very close to a White Nationalist and the Left is right to be terrified.
The wicked evil he speaks of starts in his own soul.  He has not not spoke-out against white national supremacist   ---because of his primarily white nationalist cultist base of Trump followers--- until  today.  He has seen the writing on the wall that it his own rhetoric that is major part of inciting this violence.

What this narcissists will never  do is admit his part in inciting this white national supremacist violence.

  He can only barely allow himself to equate white national supremacist with terrorism.  His words are meaningless dribble.

HIs God blessing on Toledo and Texas   ---not El Paso--- rings so hollow it makes me want to puke on the ground that rascist like Trump walk.

All of the resources Trumpmention teh FBI and law enforcment are doing because they know what is moral thing to do.

Trump only feigns morality because the his immorality is so clearly spread with blood in El Paso an shouts of hate and violence at his Trump rallies.

Ban Trump Now!





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@Christen
Many of these illegal aliens are going to continue to remain in the country until they are caught and deported, instead of voluntarily turning themselves in.
Yeah and in most case continue to provide services to USA citizens who want them, for lesser price if not a better job.

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@Alec
-Cheapest form of energy

False

-Safest form of energy

False

-Reduces atomic bomb count

False

-Cleanest for the environment

False

-Pro tools are in place to prevent a meltdown.

Good luck and Good night Humanity!

-Lasts for tens of thousands of years

Some of its byproducts last even longer. Please educate yourself before expsousing so much falsehoods. Thank you.

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What's up with all the mass shootings & terrorism in USA?
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@Swagnarok
The shooter was most certainly an unstable person to begin with, looking for any excuse to do some "big" thing like this. Because the logic behind his actions make little sense.
Yeah so a little push from a friend ---or president of USA--- is all he needed to pull the trigger. USA has some sad immoral people to vote for the immoral, narrrcisitic pychotic, racist and bigoted Trump.

So add in Moscow Mitch and Putin and we now have  white national supremacy in white house. Go figure.

Some people want apocalypse to arrive sooner rather than later and Trump is excellent candidate for apocalypse  on Earth Moon or Mars. Dude is sick-n-the-head as I presume most of his cult followers are.


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What's up with all the mass shootings & terrorism in USA?
The culprit is always, universally, a human being.

Edited: Thats true, I cant recall the last time I saw any less complex animal shooting, bombing or driving a vehicle over one or more people at a mall parking lot, concert etc.

To some the obvious answer is more guns in hands of more people along with:

more body armor......ma, get your body armor on before you go shopping at the mall.

more explosive bullets.......pa, pick up  a pack of those new hollow point body armor piercing bullets

gadgets that will disable vehicles------ma, get one of those new vehicle disabling electronic gadgets

guide to hateful speech channels..........pa, purchase one of those guide to latest hate speech channels

electronic specific targeting handgrenades........ma, buy a a few of those electronic handgrenades

Top ten best selling movies by genre LINK

1} adventure....are there adventure movies without gun/weapons violence?

4} comedy....and what percentage of those also involve gun/wepaons violence?

9) documentary...........what percentage of those involve gun/weapons violence?




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@Snoopy
The culprit is always, universally, a human being.

Thats true, I cant recall the last time I saw any less complex animal shooting one or more people at a mall parking lot, concert etc.

Gun culture that glorifys the later 1800's.  John Wayne, Ronald Regain, Randolf Scott, John Ford, Gene Autry { the singing cowboy }, The  Lone Ranger,  Roy Rogers. i.e. I think you missed the whole western movies popularity in 50's and 60's.

Ex Clint Eastwood in Good{ white male loner sharpshooter }, Bad { white male with beady { foreign } eyes }, Ugly { dirty  immoral hispani }.

USA is moving more and more twowards open hand side arm on every hip and in your purse.  It is stupidity at its worse.  Oh no wait, the nuclear arms race { M.A.Destruction } prior to 1990s was stupidity at its worst.

And who is getting caught in the middle, local law enforcement.

Who was it that stated stupid is as stupid does? Oh yeah it was funny who lived around the corner, Forest Gump.

I would rather my child be named Gumpy { slow } instead of Trumpy { racist }.

My Gumpy may be slow  but he is not immoral narcissistic, bigoted racist. Thank God or whomever






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@bsh1
Trumpee......Oh Trumpy your so cute, come to papa......come to mama...--we love you so much little Trumpy

Ebuc here I will not be using my Mustarness account again. 
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@Swagnarok
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.Luke 14:26
Was this Luke dude a fundamentalist white national supremacist?

Scary that these loser types are being encouraged more and more in USA by people in power. Very scary!

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@Mharman
ok I read that wrong. That doesn't mean guns should be banned though.
It means this recaist immoral USA presdient should be banned!


First from this low life it was Obama is not a USA citizen,

Then the low life insinuates that all mexicans are rapist and crimminals.

And the list goes on and on of the immoral rhetoric y this immoral, narcissistic sick-in-the-hea  USA president and his cultist followers.

USA has a lot of Trumps type and much worse.  They all have a drive to hate and kill people of any color or religion that does align with their narrow mind set.  

USA is headed for only more of these type of terroism and that will lead to more guns in hands of people who want to fight back.

These idiots of USA and humanity cant grasp the idea of preventive measures to begin with.  This ASS Forwards into the future constantly bumping our butts into things that only hurt us, and increasingly more and more.

Read my lips/text do you understand the word stupidity? How about moron or idiot? Seriously, how dumb will humanity allow itself to become before it pushes itself over the cliff?


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Consciousness Twoness Otherness as Integrated Set { To Feel }
Humans have four chamber of heart and the VE has primary four axi that are associated with its 8 diametrically opposing and self stabllizing triangles. 
These four axis are the same four of VE's { jitterbug } opposing triangles that are the four volumetric diagonals of a cube existing between diametrically opposite vertexes { nodal events }.

The three axi of cube are same as three axi of VE's { jtitterbugs } 6 diametrically opposing squares.


These four axi when spun define four great bisecting planes and those planes are the same  angular orientation ---ie, 60 degrees--- as the tetrahedons four surface planes. See LINK that shows the tetrahedrons four surface plane become the VE{ cubo-octahedron } when brought to zero volume { black hole? }.

Each of these volumetric diagonals represent a 4th spatial dimension. See Micho Kaku's book Hyperspace wherein XYZ{ 90 degree } becomes abc and the 4th spatial dimension is the 45 degree volumetric diagonal that becomes truncated by a vertex of an inner  cube inside the external cube.

4 axi of cubes opposing vertexes = four axi of 4-fold VE's opposing triangles
..two potential spin directions { left and right } with each equal 8 spin dimensions....

3 axi of cubes opposing surface squares = three axi of 4-fold VE's opposing squares
...two potential spin plane directions { left and right } with each equal 6 spin dimensions....

That is 14 spin dimensions, that are not inclusive of diametrically opposing axi of cube or VE.

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Conservitards Overwhelming Need To Kill
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@Mharman
are you mustardness? You do realize that if you switch accounts you have to close the old one, right?
Yes and yes and yes Ive sent email to bsh1 to close that other account as It is problematic for me to use it i.e. I will not be using it anymore and have also stated such in one or more other threads.

USA president and Republicans are encouraging domestic violence and should be locked away for their rehetoric that encourages and does not condemn enough that he does not support domestic violence from racist white nationalist males or any one else. Period.

It is sad :--( we have so many immoral  people in power in USA and around the world.

USA has a sick-in-the-head president and Republican senate does not have the spinal courage to shut this horrific mans mouth. Sad :--(
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@Mharman
El Paso. First thing I told my wife was that I bet it is a white male who is racist white nationalist.


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Torque On The Brain
A factor analysis of these asymmetries revealed four different dimensions, each mutually uncorrelated
The 4-fold, VE jitterbug --cubo-octahedron-- has  four primary and diametric axi via the 8, self stabllizing surface triangles.

Fuller refers to 'spin' as the fifth dimension  after the four abstrace surface dimenstions of a tetrahedron it exists as reality in motion via spin if not four seperate axi of spin.

Each axi can spin left or right.

Then there exists also the unstable 6 squares have three axi.  

The VE has 12 nodal vertexes and 24 chords and there exist  12 cranial nerves ---24 if bilateral--  and 24 ribs and 24 thoraic nerves  --48 if bilatera--.


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@disgusted
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26

Was this Luke dude a fundamentalist white nationalist? Scary that these types are being encouraged more and more in USA by people in power. Very scary!

 
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Fluctuation *( i )* of Quantum Cosmic Wave /\/\/\/\/\/
We know that some, if not all black holes do or will eventually emit two jets of EMRadiation <-----O-----> ergo bilateral jets LINK


..."they found that the powerful radio emission that blasts from the black hole is coming from just a tiny area, which could be aimed right at Earth"....

..."They found that it’s coming from a symmetrical source, which lines up well with the “jet” theory, since they blast from black holes in opposite directions. They also discovered that the emission is much narrower than they thought. So narrow, in fact, that it’s coming at us from just one 300 millionth of a degree — suggesting that it’s aimed almost directly at Earth."...
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@Outplayz
Also I recall that the VE as jitterbug  LINK is Fullers Operating System of Universe and the closet we will ever come to knowing God i.e.t he balance equanimity between 24 chords and 24 raddi.

So the VE jitterbug spirals INward as it contracts from 12-around-1 spherical nodes to the 6 of the octahedron, although the 6 are doubled ergo the original 12 and those 12 have 66 lines-of-relationships aka internal chords as seen in my profile graphic fior 12 nodal events.

Since the icosahedron, the phase the VE jitterbug passes through also has 12 nodal events it also also 66 lines-of-relationship, as seen in profile graphic.

Pi^4 - 31 =.......... 66.4

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66 80299820175476315067101

Irons mass is 55 or 55.845 u.

66.4 minus 55.845 =  11

31 is associated with 31 great circle/polygonal planes of the icosa{20}hedron and there is both a left-skew and right-skew set of those 31 ergo 62.

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66 80

Humans have 31 bilateral spinal nerves ergo 62 total.

Humans have 12 cranial nerves and 24 if bilateral.

Humans have 24 ribs.

Humans have four chamber of heart and the VE has primary four axi that are associated with its 8 diametrically opposing and self stabllizing triangles.  These four axi when spun define four great bisecting planes and those planes are the same  angulanar orientation ---ie, 60 degrees--- as the tetrahedons foru surface planes. See LINK that shows the tetrahedrons four surface plane become the VE{ cubo-octahedron } when brought to zero volume { black hole? }.





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@Outplayz
I personally see consciousness in levels,
 Ebuc here until I can get my mustardness account closed. I've emaild Bsh1 about that.

On a few occasions when going to sleep a spiraling left{?} or right{?} and a seemingly spiraling vortex inward or spiarlingvortex outward.  On just one occasion this was very intense and I became fearful { high anxiety } of falling into the spiralling vortex .

It wasnt until the  I came to the conclusion that my anxiety was unfounded, as I was merely intensely aware of the fine line between consciousness and being sleep.  It was seeing { being aware } of the moment of a fine line between consciousness awareness and unconsicous sleep and I didnt realize that at the time is all that was happening so I was scared.

Refering  back to post #1 link
.."Information is classically defined as reduction of uncertainty."....

...ergo we are left with finding an order or  using an orderly process to reduce uncertainty...............

I was uncertain of what was happening with that intense spiraling moment. Come to think of it I think I actually pulled back away from being aware of the spiral it a few times hoping it would go away.  I dont think it ever went away until I actually feel asleep ergo the autonomous nervous system rules again.

A quasi-smilar thing happen to me once while sitting at my desk. I forget the actual details but I wanted to take a breath and couldnt recall what mechanisms I should activate to that.  I couldnt recall and after maybe 20 or 30 seconds high anxiety appears and then suddenly autonomous system kicked in and Wow!, what a relief that was.

..."Information is not enough, however, if it is not integrated.".. Again from that initial LINK above.

Fuller address this in his book Synergetics 2, wherein he states the differrence between understanding and comprehension by stating that comprehension begins wit no less than 6 interrelationships { chords } of the minimal structure of Universe, the tetra{4}hedrorn.

With the simplest set of two ME { O } and You { O } we have graviational line-of-relationship aka mass-atraction i.e. moving INwards towards each other O----><-----O.

That is ok representation but I think there has to exist two geodesic relationships as mass-attraction and I see that is two geodesic sine-waves acting  as a feedback system ergo (O)(O) i.e. ( )( )( )( )( ) is two sine-waves over what ever distance.  Those circles are not close because I'm using text characters and that is best I have on keyboard to express my idea.

With understanding we see one, two or three, four, five and six bits of information or lines of relationhship but we have not yet considered them as an integrated whole set as enclosure of space via minimal structre of Universe, the seperates all of the macro-infinite outside and irrelevant information from all of the mirco-infinite and irrelevant inside.

Ex in the above we have ME { O } and You { O } one of two lines of relationship { geodesic or whatever } and the background against which we consider those four or five items of consideration.

So that is five or six items  to consider in comprehending the most simplistic set of consciousness, awareness, twoness, otherness.

Yes it is only 5 if we consider only one line-of-relationship so we can throw in a sixth as metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts as the 6th line-of-relationship in order to complete the whole tetrahedron of comprehensive enclosure of a whole 3D concept as ergo tetrahedral.

As for you spiral dynamics yes I considered that years ago along with 100s of other psychological outlines for consciousness over the last 25 or 30 years. Ive gone more twowards primary sets;

The overal most cosmically wholistic set, that all inclusive erog the most primary fundamental set for consciousness and all occupied space and the most irrelevant macro-infinite non-occupied space is also considered and Ive been very clear with Cosmic Trinity and other formatted hierachies of expressing those concepts like the beginning any good educational book that has a table-of-contents.







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