What If Everything You Do Was Never Your Choice?

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You only have a point that we might not have free will, we might be elaborate flesh robots.

All of occupied space Universe is cause > effect > resultants.

Access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego only occurs via brain/nervous system.

Brain/nervous system is based on  cause > effect > resultants.

All of Universe is technology i.e. cause > effect > resultant combinantions, inter-actions, interfering fermions and bosons, that can only follow cause > effect > resultants pathways, irrespective of whether humans can identify those specific pathways, ergo, leaves human uncertain pathways and other.

Cause{ action } > effect{ reaction } > resultants { consequences } = principles of least action aka stationary zero and I believe is related to the old saying, that, gravity follows the path of least resistence. Ex water follows the path of least resistance because of least strong force phenomena of gravity, is pulling water inward toward center of earth, and water hits a resistance and goes around the resistance, or collects enough to rise over top of resistance, or in some case perhaps finds way under the resistance.

Nervous system is based on charged particles ergo, gravity is often over come by charged particles interactions.

I just found this Hammeroff vid about micro-tubules as source of consicousness ergo memory and access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. I found it interesting starting at time stampe 12:00 because he goes into this threeness aspect with the micro-tubules.

Also on another site --Pub Med Central--- I found this little blurb of interest.
.." 
Key to these functions is the fact that microtubules are “dynamic.” As with actin, the polymer dynamics are driven by nucleotide hydrolysis and influenced by a host of specialized regulatory proteins, including microtubule-associated proteins.

However, microtubule turnover involves a surprising behavior—termed dynamic instability—in which individual polymers switch stochastically between growth and depolymerization. Dynamic instability allows microtubules to explore intracellular space and remodel in response to intracellular and extracellular cues.

Here, we review how such instability is central to the assembly of many microtubule-based structures and to the robust functioning of the microtubule cytoskeleton. "..

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For sure.

Occurring with no known cause.
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For sure. Occurring with no known cause.

Zed, not sure what your referencing here.

..' no known cause '... is not the same as saying there is no cause.

Cause/action  eternally exists, as does effect/reaction and resultant/consequences.

Not knowing, or uncertainty of any, or all of  this set of primary three-ness is a differrent concept

What goes around, comes around again, eternally.

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AI... ' The line "We're captive on the carousel of time" appears in Joni Mitchell's song "The Circle Game," which uses a carousel as a metaphor for the passage of time and the cyclical nature of life ..... we go round and round in the circle game


The Circle Game
by Joni Mitchell

Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star

Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like when you're older must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town
And they tell him take your time it won't be long now
Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game

So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
There'll be new dreams maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game


...She wrote this song in response to Neil Youngs song Sugar Mountain, wherein he was 19 going on 20 years old. Cartwheels of a child turn to automobiles tires going round......



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@WyIted
That's like saying science says color is based on certain wavelengths of light, therefore green does not exist.
What? No LOL

If the brain determines what to do and it's made up of atoms and chemicals and electrical impulses that tell it what to desire and tell it what to do than by extension there is no "I" that is in control.
I think I understand your point and it makes sense.

If all my posts were inane, offensive, and bigoted, then I suppose I’d want people to believe it’s not my fault too.
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This post isn't bigoted, and that's impressive considering how much of a nigger you are being right now.
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@WyIted
This post isn't bigoted, and that's impressive considering how much of a nigger you are being right now.
I get it, you are doing MAGA Philosophy, stupid, no accountability, and no responsibility, the three pillars of MAGA Philosophy.




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@WyIted
This post isn't bigoted, and that's impressive considering how much of a nigger you are being right now.
Nope, I'm not being anything, you are just being a hypocrite, you contended that "If the brain determines what to do and it's made up of atoms and chemicals and electrical impulses that tell it what to desire and tell it what to do than by extension there is no "I" that is in control."

Therefore, I'm not being anything, everything just is.


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Nope, I'm not being anything, you are just being a hypocrite, you contended that "If the brain determines what to do and it's made up of atoms and chemicals and electrical impulses that tell it what to desire and tell it what to do than by extension there is no "I" that is in control."

Therefore, I'm not being anything, everything just is.

The phrase "you are the sum total of your thoughts" suggests that your thoughts and beliefs shape your actions, behaviors, and ultimately, your reality.