Moozer325

Yeah, obviously Barney won’t vote for himself, so that will tie it. If we don’t want that, I think our best bet is to get Vader of Barney, but that will be tricky.

That’s a fair point, and I probably should have expected that. You said you could go with Luna maybe?

I’m not goi to convince the die-hards here, so this one is mostly aimed at Vader and Whiteflame. Even though barney claimed late, he still did claim, while pie and Luna have not. I urge to join me in voting pie, and Same goes for you barney. The four of us can make a voting block, and take out the real mafia, but if two of us are stupid enough to get fooled, then we’re done for.

It’s fine if you don’t want to claim, but if your going to be aggressive at getting others to claim, the you have to claim also.

Then why are you forcing everyone else out? You keep contradicting yourself, just like the

mafia would.

Sam thing here. You’re defending your not claiming, and then going after other people to claim, so you can have more information about who to kill. 

Mark my words, if I’m dead before the next morning, it was you or Luna.

Mostly because they have actually claimed. You are insisting on stalling by saying, “my role is confirmable next round”. Sure it might be, but why can’t you just tell us in advance, because that’s what everyone else it doing! Sure I don’t “know” anything, but it’s not just that your aggressive, your doing exactly what the mafia would do, not to say that you are mafia, but you’ve made a much better case for yourself than Whiteflame, and maybe Barney. I could be wrong, but this is the hill I’m dying on.

I am doing the opposite of bandwagoning. I know that two of either pie, you, or Vader are scum, and the other is just bandwagoning. My guess is the town one is Vader, but if it’s you, you need to wake up, or we won’t have enough votes to be able to lynch anyone.

Alright, here’s where I stand now.

Whiteflame: probably town, seeing as they claimed pretty early on.

Pie: More likely to be scum mostly just as he’s been very aggressive hounding out other people. I would put him in direct opposition to Whiteflame, so if Whiteflame is scum, pie is almost certainly town, and vice versa.

Vader: Normally would have voted for them, but they agreed to the plan to see if Whiteflame and him are town or not, so I’ll suspend my vote for now. Well find out tommorow

Barney: I think their town, mostly because they have a good strong claim, and the only person going against them is pie, and his arguments weren’t that great.

lunatic: Don’t know much about them, but they would be next on my list, after pie. 

If you were originally going to vote Vader, I will encourage you not to, because he has agreed to the plan, so that will excuse him for now I think. I hope you will join me in voting pie, if not, I could settle for Luna.

Finally, if I die tonight, I guarantee it was either pie or Luna. If it does happen, I doubt there will be enough votes to actually lynch them, but I hope this helps.

I’m game for this is you are too. If all goes well, we get two people confirmed town. If you agree, I’ll remove my vote on you. What do you think?

Alright, that makes sense. I’ll stick with Vader for now, and you’re welcome to join me. I am sorry, but I completely forgot how me and Vader can confirm you, can you say that again?

Like i said before, it’s mostly just that he did give us his role (albeit after a little proding), but his claim seems pretty solid to me, but like said, change my mind.

Who would you have me use it on?

can we get a time check?

Alright

I've been pretty scattered about my thoughts recently, so here it is all compiled:

Probably town: Whiteflame, Earth

Maybe town: Barney, Lunatic

In the Middle: Ilikepie5, Vader

Probably Scum: No one here yet

Vader: Pie made a good point about him doing the same thing about saying he can't confirm yet, so I would bet good money that at least one of them is scum.

IlikePie5: I've made my feelings known here

Barney: He's probably town, but I put him in maybe seeing as he took so long to confirm

Lunatic: Hasn't really proven himself yet, but hasn't done anything super sus

Whiteflame: they could just be a really good actor, but my gut says they're on our side, and the evidence backs that up too

Earth: Kinda wanted to put in maybe, but they haven't done anything to trigger suspicion yet, but still hasn't claimed, so they're on thin ice up there unless they claim soon.

No offense pie, but I’m calling bullshit on that. You may be right about having a complicated role, but it just seems to ridiculous, and you make no sense. Anyone who wants t vote with me can, but this is mostly just me voting with my conscience, even though I wont get anywhere.

Why do you insists on only claiming tomorrow? 

Why not now?

Seems like a pretty clear stalling tactic to me

Anyways, until you do claim, I would have everyone else at least take your claims with a grain of salt, and I would still like you to claim now, so I’m keeping my vote.

You might have a reason, but it seems like pretty clear stalling to me, and that is super counterproductive if your with us.

To uphold my end of the bargain:

The way I see it, no one has really jumped out at me as being incredibly suspicious, so I’m working my way through, trying to get a feel for each person one at a time. 

I don't really have any opinion on either of them, It's just that they're both candidates right now, and I'm trying to narrow it down. 

No offense to you, but you have been pretty aggressive on hounding claims out of people. Not that it's necessarily bad, it's just a little suspicious, and you haven't really given us a big claim either, so I think I have the right to be at least a little sceptical. I do agree with you that we need a hard claim barney, but I would like one out of you too before you go asking for other people's.

I totally agree with you about pie here. If you can give us a better claim, I'm with you if you want to go after him next, but I need that claim first. 

Also, I do agree with Pie that we need a few more claims, but he's been pretty aggressive in targeting other people. He's also on my possible suspects list, not super high on it, but on there.

I'm here. 

BTW sorry for not being that active everyone, I'm still a little new to this.

I think Barney is definitely a candidate seeing as he won't give us a claim yet.

To clarify, one person just gets bullet proof for a round, and another has there abilities unable to be tampered with. I can only used it on one night though, so I'm saving it for not. Also, sorry to everyone else for not being as active, I'll try to do better. I do think we should get a claim from Barney. VTL Barney 

No strong feelings as to who it is yet, so I feel like we need a few more claims.

I can only use my ability, protecting one person and making one other person's ability untamperable for one night.

I did nothing, seeing as I only have one shot, so I better use it well

Alright, I'll just vote with the majority when most people have voted.

Can I vote for no one. like can I vote to not lynch anyone?

I'll suppose I'll be honest. I'm a castling, I can use my ability once to protect one piece (king), and make one piece's next moves untamperable (rook).

Oh, and I did read the rule guide, and it sounds a bit more complicated, but fun too.

I know the normal rules from summer camp, but are there any special chess mafia rules?

/in 

Sure! I know the basics, but any special rules I should know about?

Uh, ever heard of Mutually Assured Destruction? I would personally like to PREVENT Nuclear war, not Provoke it!

Good point, didn't think of that

This is ridiculous.I'm a democrat, and I think your just being stupid here. Besides, It doesn't even really matter if their dog haters or not, we should judge politicians on their ability to govern, not random things you make up.

I agree, and disagree with you. I would agree with you on matters of say, Israel vs. Palestine, where neither side is completely in the right. I would also agree with you for things like Vietnam, Iraq where we only get involved to have a regime favorable to the U.S., and to stop communism. In those cases, our country has a long track record of only looking out for ourselves and not considering the rights of the other nations involved. I'm no communist, but I believe nations should be able to decide for themselves. But this is where I stop agreeing with you. If a Ukraine is being cruelty invaded by Russia, I think we have a duty to prevent WW3, but as a world super power, we also have a duty to help the little guy out. It's not transgressing in foreign affairs when the country in need is asking for help, and has done nothing to provoke the attack, and I think though we are not mandated to help, we do have some sort of duty to.

Ps. sorry for making these so long, I have a lot to say

Here's my 2 cents. This is a bad analogy, so cut me a little slack here, but it's kinda like when your mom gets mad at you and your sibling for fighting. Yes your brother (Hamas), might have called you a name, but that still gave you no right to destroy his actions figures (civilians). And maybe your brother called you a mean name because you kicked him in the shins last week, and maybe you kicked him in the shins because he stole your cupcake. You get the point. Israel has a right to defend itself and to prevent these attacks from happening again, but the atrocities committed in Gaza are a huge over reaction and humanitarian crisis. And maybe Israel should not just fight fire with fire, and look at the root of these attacks, and then they might see that they have as much blame in this as Gaza does. In the words of my mother, "I don't care who started it, JUST STOP FIGHTING!"

Here's my 2 cents. This is a bad analogy, so cut me a little slack here, but it's kinda like when your mom gets mad at you and your sibling for fighting. Yes your brother (Hamas), might have called you a name, but that still gave you no right to destroy his actions figures (civilians). And maybe your brother called you a mean name because you kicked him in the shins last week, and maybe you kicked him in the shins because he stole your cupcake. You get the point. Israel has a right to defend itself and to prevent these attacks from happening again, but the atrocities committed in Gaza are a huge over reaction and humanitarian crisis. And maybe Israel should not just fight fire with fire, and look at the root of these attacks, and then they might see that they have as much blame in this as Gaza does. In the words of my mother, "I don't care who started it, JUST STOP FIGHTING!"

FYI I'm left wing, but I do totally agree with you here. As long as people aren't spreading misinformation, repeatedly attacking someone online, or calling for violent action, you have to take the good with the bad. That's free speech.