Melcharaz

i dont believe anyone should limit how many debates a person can engage in. if they have the mental capacity, focus and free time, who are we to limit them? most people here are adults and have the right to do what they wish with their time and strengths they have.

if its a question of how much the website can handle it however, thats a different arguement and reasons altogether.

fact, as you portray it, is bound to your own understanding. Truth is what is and what happens regardless of understanding.

this world is tired, its in sorrow, it heaves with groanings and stumbles as if drunk.

objectively and truthfully, we are in sorrowful times.

the primary difference between gold and indigo is vision and application.

a person who follows the indigo tide wants to save the community, state, country, world. From what, and what that salvation means is up to them.

they consider things at a species level even.

an indigo person would tell the thief to turn themselves in, regardless of their personal need.

wereas gold is specific, you want to help others, starting from the individual level and upward. you see a need, emotional or physical and are willing to sacrifice. They do care about the big picture, but their focus is not so much to improve humanity, but to help whoever they can with a need. Not solve a political problem, but help the politician if they have need of help.

a gold person would try to help the thief by getting them a job or help pay off debts, they may tell them to turn themselves in, but only if there is no other way.

everyone on a debate site has a tiny bit of silver. most people want to influence peoples thinking, for the better, or at least their own idea of better.

what is the greater good?

which one?

every now and then the government decides its time to flush the toliet, so, some info leaks out (which most of the time is partly true, but also false) and the bad guys are down the drain, until its time for another bill to pass or someone learns/does something that endangers the ego of others.

indeed. this website wasnt much to start with, too much freedom given to a select few who established the rules and power structure.

agreements between mods and developer over certain areas being "their turf"

but the most damning of all is the unwillingness to listen. That, is what is going to shutdown this site in a few years.

i have changed my mind, this debate will not go forward.

please disregard this thread.

as Lord liveth. Judgement will come.

as you have disregarded others, so will you be disregarded. as you have judged others, you will be judged.

this is not a threat it is a promise.

Now is the time to seek God and obey him. do not listen to man, mankind is full of error and God said cursed is the man that trusteth in man, in the arm of flesh and does not trust God.

dont be afraid to ask others what they mean when they speak. debate is not a competition, only a platform for understanding. such a thing has been lost here.

anasum atiqueia

instead of asking questions, you assume. instead of seeking understanding, you fight.

your mind is blinded by arrogance, you are a child in wisdom. you simply wont listen

i have no more words for you.

the usa is doomed, judgement is coming. why would i invest my emotions and effort into a lit fuse attached to a bomb?

now, the people? thats another matter, the people need help.

you seem to be looking at scripture from a personal point of view, allowing your emotions, experiences and pain to affect your interpretation.

all of scripture works together to show who God is and how he works.

That being said, i would never play the lottery, nor just read the gospel of luke (which, according to paul is the beloved physician, his work prior to meeting christ gave him understanding of people in poverty, as well as when he followed christ) without considering the other gospels.

the way i present things, you have to ask me questions, i do not operate according to most people's thinking (just ask anyone who knew me from 3+ years ago) Do not assume i say everyone should be rich or poor. infact, its in psalms that david prays to neither be poor to the point of stealing, nor rich to the point where he disregards God.

otherwise we would have to go kill all the amalekites like God told saul.

edit: 1 timothy 6:9-10, 17-19

no. what Jesus told 1 person to do doesnt mean everyone should do it. method is in alignment with obedience, not obedience its self.

to the fool(s) i leave this message for you to try and contridict:

Do not confuse the means with the desire. evil and good are allowed by God for his pleasure. yet those things evil in his sight are allowed only to show how good he is.

it is inevitable people confuse cause with the effect.

when love works through someone, a emotion will often (but not always) accompany it.

if i give my right arm to save a life, i may have no joy during the process, i may even feel resentment. nevertheless i do love that life in that i give even my arm for that life.

Jesus Christ had no joy (or even desire) in going to the cross. but afterword, joy unspeakable.

an intresting strawman. Jesus only told 1 person to sell all he had, the rich young ruler. because he would still be a ruler.

scripture tells us in james that there is no evil in being rich. God commands the rich to not love money, otherwise it is evil.

another strawman is that most people who say they are christians, arent actually christians, because they dont obey God, nor do they the works of Christ.

a misunderstanding people have about heaven is what the reward is, its not money, its relationship and joy with God and Jesus Christ. scripture tells us that heaven is righteousness, joy and peace in the holy ghost.

many people dont even know what the bible is about because they dont read it, or they dont understand it.

if its a question of good, then publically giving doesnt qualify. a gift in secret and done through love, is good.

as to what charity or why. i dont care.

hmmm. tag debateart. for some reason he doesnt get notifications unless he is tagged, he has been busy working on bugs though.

all good things are from the father. Him alone.

its 10 now.

i often use the title like as the 1st sentence.

i do apologize if it brought confusion, that was not my intent.

i will suffer you this question only. you as well have no need to speak with me, seeing as in the past i harassed barney to get a ro against you.

love has to do with forgiveness and mercy when the person doesnt deserve it. its giving food if the rapist is hungry, its clothing the harlot, its giving water to the murderer. because love isnt about how we feel, or how evil they are. but that God working through us to have mercy on them, as God has and had mercy on us.

no one in heaven or earth can recieve this love unless the father gives it. Love is something we must seek Jesus for as we love him By obeying him. Through the Holy Spirit, which as scripture shows is evidenced and manifest by speaking in other tongues ( acts 10:44-48 acts 2:1-4 acts 19:1-6)

This, we must all recieve before even attempting to serve God, otherwise we operate on our logic, on our inferior love and our pride, which makes us to think we can do God's will without his Holy Spirit. such arrogance will destroy millions in judgement.

that is all i will speak to you regarding this until fruits of repentance is manifest in your life and words.

yall think too much with your own logic and ego.

God has called us to obey him. There is only 1 way to be saved, acts 2:38.

The scriptures tell us that we must be willing to give everything to follow christ, even to the rejecting of family and our will.

infact, its written that with much tribulation and suffering the saints will enter heaven.

but, if you would desire peace and would want the emptiness in your heart to be filled, if you would be free from the chains of addictions and sorrows that bind your hearts. Jesus Christ is the Only answer.

other gods just make you swap chains, or they give disciplines that shift your attention off of them. For satan and his angels are even now in chains are darkness, hopelessness and cannot free you, only offer pleasure to deepen the bondage.

you and i have enough history to know i dont care for your opinion. i advise you to simply leave me and my opinions/truths alone.

or i could troll you, but im lazy rn.

so, ill simply just reply with

derp

according to matthew 24:5-8

love God and then he will teach you to love others. love is not an emotion, its a behavior rooted in the Holy Spirit. which is necessary for salvation and can only be given to those who obey God, asking and waiting on it in faith.

im blessed! God has been good to me. slowly and steadily we work together to make my life better.

other than that allergies got me congested, but im fine.

i get new info very slowly, but mostly thats because its a process to get revelation from scripture.

other than that i do use youtube from time to time as well.

how many debates are you in? i tried to put someone as a contender in my debate but it said they hit maximum number of debates.

it will not be a rated debate. i think ive done less than 5

would you like to be a contender or judge?

once a new contender is come you have 1st spot as judge. we will have minimum of 3 judges total.

thank you for volunteering!

close enough. i was thinking along the lines of walt whitman.

as a contender or judge? im in no hurry and can wait a couple days. if you wish to be contender or judge. dm me

update: Our contender is unable to debate at this time. Looking for a new contender and a volunteer judge!

the debate will specifically be on the NEED for contridictions for change.

what changes and how need is defined will be in round 1 opening or comments before opening.

basically we can argue self contridiction, the philosophy of contridiction. the societal rejection of contridiction. etc

we are now looking for 1 volunteer judge for this debate.

update: contender has been chosen. we are now negotiating judges.

The wise.

also there is still hope that others can recieve wisdom!

i am looking for contender for a debate on contridiction and How it is needful for change.

i and contender will agree on judge(s) for this debate and the judge(s) will have to comment their method of judging via multiple criterions in comments section once debate starts.

if anyone is intrested please dm me. this debate will mostly be a test, but will operate in good faith.

also, some please post a screenshot and explain multiple criterion options Here. as examples incase any new person wishes to be a judge. Thanks!

its alright. just means you can specialize more in emotional, factual work.

wisdom is priceless

Do you see them both as women? How do you define a woman?

ironically the game begins with you falling from the moon in a pod while being chased by the guardian of the tides.

In what way do you think they are seperate?

hmmm. I dont really remember. but i like informal discussions more than debates.

I have recently been playing Torment Tides of numenera. Its an intresting game and kinda categorizes and labels ambitions in a non moral way.

this is just for fun, which tide would you say represents you best?

me, based on my actions i lean towards gold and blue. sometimes a little indigo, but my understanding of morality affects that introspection.

intresting.

what are your thoughts on haley?

i dont know if she will invest alot of effort into a potential campaign.

i am concerned that you

do you mean that as a joke? or do you truely believe existence is acknowledged by suffering?

As to the challenge, i am lazy and dont wanna to do physical stuff. but i shall pray!