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@Tradesecret
you ever recieved the holy spirit which is made evident by speaking in tongues? acts 10:44-48
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@Tradesecret
manifested.
Romans 8:19 “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.”
Romans 8:19 “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.”
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@YouFound_Lxam
remember to not speak ill of leaders. God sets up whomever he desires.
exodus 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
acts 23:1-5
1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. 2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. 3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? 4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? 5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
ecclesiastes 10:20
20 Curse not the king, no not in thy thought; and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber: for a bird of the air shall carry the voice, and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.
daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
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@DebateArt.com
seems like you responded finally! good.
sucks i have to say hard things to get anyone notice this.
lets take this apart.
I can implement many things, but there are priorities and hiding comments and posts is not one, at the moment.
good, at least you are confessing that you dont care about the mental state of those on your website. free speech has a price, the evils of language. You dont want to empower people to block what is evil in their/this site, therefore you make everyone more resentful of the evils they percieve.
I am not even mentioning the amount of potential edge cases for a feature like that.
thats not a problem to consider when initating it, tomorrows problems. its a poor excuse to not try. they can be fixed as they come up, you and the other developer(s) want to make the site accessable so more will come. no one wants to come to a site where you get people mocking or trolling you for what you think and can do nothing about it, except leave anyways.
Frankly, I fail to understand what you are trying to say here.
kids bully kids and make them lash out at others. the bullies here use words and they dont have a teacher or room to seperate them.
All of that apart, do you understand that this is a website that doesn't even cover its expenses?
thats a poor business strategy tbh. if you cant cover your bills, why keep working? you not only hurt yourself, but others by your financial decisions. just close the site down and do something different, we arent responsible for your choices.
And you are demanding stuff like it's unicorn start-up with millions of dollars of investments.
not hardly, i even asked you what is needed to block others 3 days ago. No answer. and now you whine and treat me like the bad guy because you didnt even tell me the work needed. i dont do coding for this website, you have to tell us what is fesible.
Also, it doesnt take millions of dollars to make a script to alter a user ai. (not with my phone anyways) it might take 5 months of work though.
I never "demanded" anything, i asked and got no answer.
Man, I don't know, you could at least donate something just for decency sake before demanding stuff in such a disrespectful manner.
why would i donate money to a website that wont even consider my questions and then attacks me for pointing out they arent intrested in my proposal? I cant even get a RO without the mods, why would i invest in a site that i cant have my questions treated seriously?
again, i didnt demand anything. Also my comment wasnt disrespectful. you took it as an attack on your work. What i was trying to say (that you asserted was me disrespecting you/website) is that a website that falls apart because people can no longer see other people's comments, didnt have a strong foundation. That is ASSUMING the website would fall apart.
no tldr's. you need a break or something, let the website go, get some money, get more people to help you. Then try again
luke 14:28-30
28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
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without the bible being true, the concept of christianity is powerless. paul put it best.
1 corinthians 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
why deny ourselves if there is no ressurrection? why heal if people die anyways? why try to be good when all people go to the same place regardless?
you wanna talk about nihilism and existential suffering? a christian without ressurrection would make the most hardened nihilist despair. they would tell us to just die, as there is no point.
scripture is the foundation for being a christian, you cannot be a christian if you dont obey and follow after christ.
my advice is stop listening to ignorant people and read scripture, actually talk to the God who they claim exists. see what he has to say.
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@IlDiavolo
you no longer want to discuss it do you? Do my reasons surpass yours? are you wearied because i dont change my mind about this?
your compassion fails you, and in time, reason will leave us all.
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almost 3 days and not a response. It seems to me that you have no intrest in developing it
in which case, you allow spread of harassment, trolling and poor conduct which hurts a site dedicated to debates, instead of helping it.
if a site cant survive just because people no longer see a persons comments or debates, well, it wasnt much of a site to begin with.
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@IlDiavolo
my life has never been happier or more fulfilling since i gave it to Jesus Christ. i have no fear or worry or doubt and if i ever should, i know he hears me when i cry.
he loves without reservation and he never changes. giving more grace and mercy than any creature deserves.
my life continues onward. the thing about God is that he isnt an escape from reality, he is a help in reality, a strong tower, a comforter, a friend, a wise advisor and a lover of my soul no matter how much good or evil i do.
i do good because i want to be like him and make him happy. eternity is not far from any of us.
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@IlDiavolo
its the same as it was the past.
you seem to think the concept of following christ changed just because billions do it wrong or attempted to subvert or destroy it.
i hold to the pure doctrine, that is. What my father in heaven tells me and speaks through me.
of course there were other writtings that were God breathed or inspired, but their loss or corruption of text via translation, doesnt negate or disprove what the living God says.
of all the thousands of documents that have lasted longer than 1500 years, the bible has been the most tested, tried, written, rewritten, translated, translated x3 or more times, and yet still retains an uncorrupted text. Of course thousands of years will wear away documents, but when compared with contemporaries or a different translation, the message isnt lost.
tldr, you only proved my point that nothing changes and that there is nothing new under the sun. God's word still remains.
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The most important thing God changed my mind about however, is to wait on him.
when i was younger, i was zealous, more impatient and emotional. I let my heart guide me into doing what i thought was good. It turned out that what i was doing was evil.
God taught me to wait on him and ask his favor before i make any decision in life, a life made unstable by emotions will crash and burn. A life decided by what our hearts think is right will lead us to a wilderness of our own making.
Wait upon the Lord, he will give you strength and direction to do what is right and most benefical for humanity.
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@IlDiavolo
that is the reality, those who never were of God, will leave God.
just like those who were of satan, will always leave God.
this is an established precept known throughout thousands of years, there is nothing new under the sun. just a different name from what history may tell us.
no, i dont ignore the research the pew has done, i simply was not needful of it to know this 1 truth: Everything that can be shaken, will be shaken. proving where humanities faith and heart dwells.
i dont complain, im not even discouraged, almost 2000 years ago God told the church that there MUST be heresies and that now is the time of FALLING AWAY.
rather, im looking forward to Christs soon coming.
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i can honestly say that in the past 4 years that i havent changed my mind about anything. God changed my mind about somethings however.
1: Faith in humanity. He taught me that its not the human mind or body or heart i should believe in, but his spirit inside them leading them toward good.
2: Evil is militant. I once believed that everyone could change, and while it is possible, God has shown me that its by him alone good is done. Man would be committing greater evils, fighting and moving towards destruction by satan, if God didnt have grace toward us and restrain us from satans goal.
3: education and knowledge is worthless compared to knowledge of God. nuance is required with this one, i used to believe that education was essential and that life has to follow particular phases and steps. God has taught me otherwise, that while knowledge is good and so is understanding, that knowledge and faith of Jesus Christ is better in every way compared to any other knowledge.
God still isnt done teaching me yet, and he will never stop.
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neither. its just gonna be what it is. And those who were never christians yet claimed to be one, will flock to it.
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@IlDiavolo
you lie. you only complained about preaching in the religion forum under my thread "faith stands" the problem is you.
im willing to discuss scripture, but it must be under the assertion scripture is true, im not gonna debate someone who denies God.
and basically as long as you remain civil and dont troll (see https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4209/posts/173402 ) then i have no problems.
everyone who is blocked has violated 1 or more of the 3 reasons above. they arent strict. basically you dont mock God or me and dont deny scripture when we do discuss it.
so, whine if you want, you made your own problem.
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acts 3:13-20
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
acts 2:22-24,37-39
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
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depends on what differences you notice. every voice is different and so is everyones hearing or method of differentation.
to a large amount of white people in the usa, im sure you could find a consensus.
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basically i get it from wherever in whatever im intrested in. I dont take all of what they say is true, as humanity is often ignorant or biased in information. but if any news shows a building on fire, i accept the fact a building was on fire, i disregard the rest of their info.
i dont trust humanity in general, ive come to a place where i dont really seek for information about alot of things, im content and i have peace and my future is secure, why should i worry? I care about my community and i pray for leaders (when i think about it) other than that im basically a hermit.
short answer, bible.
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its possible that one group of gentiles paul referred to is the maltian in acts 28
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if you want an answer to your question however. Assuming it is true ignorance and not willful. scripture has this to say.
romans 2:12-16
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
you are accountable to judgement by the good in your conscience and knowledge of the law and word of God.
so if a person sins ignorantly and has no knowledge of God, their conscience will trouble them, and they will know that they have done evil. If however they do a wrong and their conscience does not trouble them, yet they have broken the law of the land or of God, and they knew it, they must be held accountable of that transgression
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acts 17:22-31
22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. 23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
there are sins of ignorance, and presumpteous sin.
psalms 19:12-13
12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
basically you repent over the sins you do know and have committed, then search scriptures and ask God to reveal sins you arent aware of that you commit. This is holiness and pleases God.
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@IlDiavolo
you can discuss how that faith doesnt work the way i suggest.
it seems to me you are making your own problem, you can discuss with me any of my forum topics. If you dont like my posts, just go to stackoverflow and ask them how to not see certain user handles or divert javascript from your ui and voila! i no longer exist.
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there is a way to make blocking actually block words and identifiers (for lack of better words) of people via javascript (and webviewer for certain phones) to make it where i no longer see their names and posts. why has there not been a similar development on this website? Im sure that you can implement it if you wanted to but it seems like there is no desire to. Is the nuiance of coding it that great for a website?
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@IlDiavolo
what do you mean? would you like to discuss what faith is?
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@YouFound_Lxam
i can honestly say that all of your statement are basically irrelevant to the subject.
also, you are wrong about some of the things you mentioned. but it doesnt follow the topic of my post. we can dm about it.
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The faith of any who believes in Jesus Christ stands not in the wisdom of man, but in the power of God.
No one who is a follower of Jesus Christ will have their faith in Jesus shaken or undone by the logic or cunning or experiences of humanity, nor by strength of reason or philosophy.
but it is tried by life, it is standing firm in the power https://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/1411.htm the miracles, the manifested nature of God's spirit.
faith comes by hearing the word of God https://biblehub.com/text/romans/10-17.htm
faith stands by power/demonstration of God
faith is built up by praying in the Holy ghost. https://biblehub.com/text/jude/1-20.htm
therefore, debate and discussion and arguement should never affect the faith of a true Christian. but with the word of God, our faith comes.
life and its trials will test everyone's faith, to show that it is sure, or if it is false.
1 corinthians 3:10-15 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
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@Tarik
understandings is plural, it could be full understanding, part understanding or misunderstanding. or nonunderstanding.
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you called God a hypocrite.
also, there are alternate ways of truely blocking someone, certain apps and webviewer and javascript manipulation can block out words and links on my UI.
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@YouFound_Lxam
im gonna tell you something revelatory. You ready?
satan is dumber than God.
the lack of belief in God is satan's work his blinding of minds. He subdues truth and thereby confounds and shortchanges logic. so those who do not believe in God are entirely dependent on God unblinding their minds as their spirit seeks truth, waiting for God to visit the body it dwells in.
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life is balanced in such a way that truth can be what you decide for it to be. Even if reality opposes your own idea of what truth is.
objective truth is what governs all of reality and the universe as we know it. However, we have the freedom to say and live "nope" or "thats wrong" according to our understandings. you might be surprised at how many people here deny objective truth. be prepared for opinions!
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God exists, he is all knowing. dont bother arguing otherwise with me.
logic is subjective because man uses it, ergo its dependent on the user's knowledge and lack thereof.
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logic is subjective anyways. its useful, but only indesputable if the being is all knowing.
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to clarify, there was a meep at that time that had to do with trolling. However, it ended up in a manner i was not happy with at that time.
I do believe people shouldnt troll others and insult others. but blocking and proper adjustment of javascript can make the words disappear.
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I like the update, reminds me of forums and threads i made. it serves to remind me who the ignorant are (lots) and who is open minded. (hint: less than 8 people)
what are yalls thoughts on it?
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greater than whatever you fill in the blank
you are made to be eternal, to surpass the stars in longevity, you were made to be happier than you are now.
somewhere in your life you short changed yourself by holding on to what you see, by believing this world is all there is and that all that is in it is truth and your purpose.
when you were young, you saw your enviroment and imagined beyond it, you went beyond the place of your dwelling, to the lands beyond it. you looked up into a sky with stars and tried to imagine beyond the pinpoints of light, beyond the moon and the sun. when you learned of space, you wondered beyond it, galaxies, universe, etc. and then you stopped dreaming, you stopped wondering, it mattered less and less because food kept you alive, and stars did nothing but shine. you stopped imaging beyond your life to the lives of others, because you must survive.
is it so hard to imagine life beyond? you arent all knowing, science and astronomers cant find the end of the universe, why do you believe the physical, the visable is worth dying for?
aim beyond this world, aim beyond the stars, beyond yourself. Hope will never make you ashamed, all that seek, find.
whatever you think is best in this life, imagine it better beyond this life. if you love pleasure, is it impossible to know greater and everlasting pleasure?
God is the forger of dreams, he gave you a desire and expectation, but it cant be fulfilled by life on earth, but by being with him.
where you place your treasures; your time, your money, your energy. that is where your heart stays, where your affections are, where you will automatically point yourself toward when things become chaotic.
point them toward eternity, and this world will never crush you. by your right hand you will overcome the world, because your hope and dreams are beyond it.
hope is more real than the world.
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read 1 corinthians 7. starting at verse 1. you denied jesus, but maybe paul will knock some sense into ya.
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@Best.Korea
you cant read bible. i gave you scripture and you ignore it.
i tell you this, you will go to hell if you preach false doctrine. i got bible to tell me i dont have to marry, or reproduce. you better slow down son. God is gonna do what he said, people gonna end up in hell if they do what you are saying. and whoever/whatever taught you these lies is going to hell too unless both of you repent and get it right.
dont @ me unless its to tell me you repented of your false teaching.
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@Best.Korea
God commands everyone to have an offspring:"God blessed them and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it’"The Bible commands the death penalty for an intentional abortion and intentional spilling of seed:"he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also."
these are both misinterpretations of scripture.
1: God didnt command everyone to have offspring, just adam and eve at this time.
matthew 19:10-12 10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
2: genesis 38:6-10 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
the scripture showed onan ejaculated on the ground as he had sex with his brothers wife, he didnt obey judah but instead had sex for his own pleasure and not give tamar children to raise a family. She was now his wife, he had responsibility to her, but he hated her and wouldnt have children because the child would be considered tamar/er's not his.
this is a level of pettiness that even now days is rare, he was killed for treating a woman like a masturbation tool and for disobedience to his father and by proxy, God. not abortion
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before all things, there must be the right attitude and spirit. Those that read God's word must first “Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.” (Proverbs 3:5 KJV)
hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
be ready to believe and seek God's understanding.
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@Skipper_Sr
if you wish to discuss scripture i am avalible at anytime.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
who?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
who are you talking to? me? i would hope my words wouldnt be weaponized. at least, not to bring harm to people.
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@IlDiavolo
if you see me say something that is strange or contridictory, ask me what i mean when i say it.
your concept of God, however you got it, is wrong. God cannot save those who reject his love, but he can still give them life and blessings. the hypocrite is one who says they are something, or claims something and doesnt do it. God wont hear the prayer of someone who wont even admit they are wrong.
But! if the hypocrite acknowledges that they are wrong and sincerely wish to change, God will hear that prayer.
your logic, human logic, doesnt determine scripture or truth. you must abandon your reasoning and ask God to tell you what his perspective is. He doesnt work according to our ideas, we work according to his.
tldr. forsake your concepts, read scripture and ask God what he means. otherwise you will be decieved.
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if you would explain it in a less condescending assholish way, im sure it would be easier to under stand it.
after all, we have to waste our time reading your insults and condescending statements, its possible we lose so much brain power that cannot comprehend your ideas.
or, at the very least, have to struggle with emotions connected to your condescention that we lose focus on what you say and simply ignore you.
@ebuc
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