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@Casey_Risk
Sorry we lynched before you got back.
Even while I’m convinced you’re scum, I had meant to unvote to let you speak (traveling this weekend, so intermittently very busy).
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@JoeBob
if you haven’t already DMed the host with your night action , you should do so now. Wyited or Earth is my suggestion, for a non-manipulated vig shot.
This is assuming that you’re actually town, and that the power will still activate.
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According to lunatics active player counter, most likely the officially passive players choose to not do the NK (therefore partnered with JoeBob, Barney, or Wylted… faking a successful defense), or both scum are among the active players and if scum targeted Wyited or Barney, the defense was successful… come to think of it, a mix of the two is also likely: one in and one out, with the one who is in doing their thing and attempting a night kill, and the one who is out having a passive power.
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Now off to go dance.
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@JoeBob
You should full full claim. If you already have, copy/paste to refresh everyone.
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Will probably go right back on it, but I've got several things to take care of.
unvote
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Casey_Risk
This is ending in a no lynch unless we all work together to pile the votes on one target right now.
Since Joebob is on and can lend needed support, I suggest we murder Moozer.
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@JoeBob
Ctrl+F, enter your name, and see what everyone is saying.
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@JoeBob
Please defend yourself.
Also if alive tonight, giving the cube to Wyited is optional… Actually, not sure if it’s still passed if dead, but locking him in now is a safe bet.
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Oh everyone else, due to JoeBob and I having such similar roles, please don’t lynch anyone without confirming we’ve DMed the host (we lock in targets during the day before the hammer)
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@WyIted
Lynching JoeBob…
- He’s terrible at defending himself, so if town will be an easy mislynch later. Seriously, I shouldn’t have to be the one explaining the flavor connections between his powers and character.
- He is character confirmed due to the flavor text in the mod PM.
- His role follows the same pattern as mine. This could be scum having DP1 role cop abilities, or the host simply reusing some of his work for briefly popular items (Rubiks cubes and RSVLTS… Beanie Babies too had anyone submitted that).
- He could be a fake inventor as Pie keeps saying. I’d need to read up on Mr. Rubiks; but it’s plausible even if I’ve never seen that role.
- Likewise, I could be a fake inventor. Are shirts really an invention? Do they really kill people?
- The two of us could be a lazy scum team, agreeing on a gambit of claiming variants of the same role.
- I need to head to work, but lots of other possibilities
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@ILikePie5
@JoeBob
nothing even remotely related between a Rubix cube and doctor
It’s a commuter, via scrambling the locations of the pieces. Hence much of the issue with Mooney right now.
These roles share an uncomfortable number of aspects. No denying that.
As for the other problem, yes, we have a lot of protective roles in this game. Likely one of the mafia can strongman; that or something even better to make things balanced.
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@Moozer325
I’m not as confident of your guilt as Wylted, but it is a pretty big coincidence that out of nowhere you said commuter instead of vigilante, and commuter happens to be a power that ends up in play.
Plus the confusion on what day you’ll be town confirmed. It seems like it’s not a simple wait to tomorrow, but the day after… That’s a lot of faith you’re asking for.
If you’ve got a better theory on who is scum, please lay it out for us. In the mean time…
VTL Moozer
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@WyIted
I could have chosen to use a different power from the cube, but I used commuter. The power name is actually “Scramble!” In which you scramble the locations on the cube and likewise your own.
The other would have been pretty useful, but there was a high likelihood I’d be NKed, so best to use the protection.
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@WyIted
Looking back through JoeBob, this post stands out as his only mention of commuter yesterday… which was to kill a possible rival to his power; which if you can do without directly counter claiming, it’s best to do so.
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@Moozer325
What did you say to Wyited in the private chat to make him turn on you?
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@Moozer325
Don't see the purpose in lynching him today because if he is lying we just lynch him tomorrow.
Credit to Earth for that line.
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Reads:
- Wylted - Town/role-confired. Obviously I think he's town, and was the most likely NK target after myself, hence why I passed him my protective item (I did so after verifying the vigilante shot would survive for another night). While scum occasionally deny themselves the NK, it seems weird that they'd deny themselves two. As for the shirt disabling his actions, as scum he'd know there were no lethal actions headed his way. I don't know if he was actually turned vanilla, or was just using that as a reference to being 'roleblocked' by accepting the "red shirt." If actually targetted by a role stripping power, I first dislike that anyone was so fast to say it's scummy, but it is odd since the only way his vig would be a problem is if they thought he was going to target one of them...
- Barney - Scum, pure scum! As scummy as the Spanish Inquisition! https://youtu.be/vt0Y39eMvpI?si=_ntqdqQpEvYibd0Q
- IlikePie - lean-scum/role-confirmed. It's mainly a gut feeling. The speed at which he jumped to being role-blocked (or vanilla swirled) equals scum, gave me a bit of whiplash. And of course I'd bet money that he has more powers (anyone with one power is most likely lying in this game).
- Joebob - Town/role-confirmed. Had been someone I'm ok with lynching, but with no NK and me being on of two people protected (and I've played plenty of games with more than one protective role) makes me favor him... Now to get back to playing with this box... https://screenrant.com/hellraiser-2022-puzzle-box-lament-configurations/
- Casey - null/null. A big cup of null; so someone I'd be ok lynching (not that I want to, merely part of the lynch pile)
- Moozer - scum/unconfirmed. It's a believable claim, but I don't believe it due to how it's been used. Investigative roles are the most important, and giving that up for confirmation later in the game... An investigation can reveal someone as scum, which was worth so much more than 100% town confirmation.
- Lunatic - lean-town/unconfirmed. Not too much to go on, but I do like the bear and how the mod has handled it, plus the counting thing is not something I would expect from scum as it could lead to them getting lynched when more is revealed..
- Earth lean town/role-confirmed. Earth is always a blank slate to me, but the power is confirmed. I am trying to imagine it as a scum power, and not sure if it would be.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
Would both of you mind asking our host if your powers count as active?
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Dashboard
Player DP1 NP1. DP2. NP2
Wylted. passive used bp shirt and vanillaed? (worst time ever)
Barney. Wyited. Cube(commuted)
IlikePie. Lunatic(unvoteable)
Joebob Barney ???
Casey. N/A
Moozer. null
Lunatic n=5
Earth wylted/moozer
Wylted
"You are a piece of shit for even asking me for my character claim, fuck you. Now I think you are scum and we should lynch you faggot."
Lynchproof (DP1, maybe more), + shirts from Barney
Barney
Shirt auction for kill, shift gift for protection.
RSVLTS + Cube from JoeBob
Pie
Donald Trump
Stop the steal! Prevents someone from being voted.
Joe bob
Erno Rubik
Cube. Multiple powers, thus far revealed that scrambling it causes a night as a commuter. (unknown if pin head shows up with the right combination)
Casey
Un Chien Andalou (AKA “An Andalusian Dog” a 1929 French/Spanish surrealist silent short film)
??? Something passive
Moozer
Bart Simpson
A bunch of powers, including innocent child DP3 if no others used? Otherwise can track, and a couple other things.
Lunatic
If a Bear fart in the forest, and no one is a round to smell it, does it still stink?
Night action counter.
Earth
Rohirrim Charge at Pellonor Fields
Gets people to talk to each other (I'm sure he can describe it better).
Graveyard
Savant. stole vote from Earth
“Robin Hood” aka The Joker
Vote thief
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So looks like we're at 5, unless Lunatics and/or Earths powers don't count as an active one.
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@Earth
Why does Wyited think you've been recruited into the scum team?
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@Moozer325
I’ll admit that yesterday I had a good gut feeling about you.
You saying you have an investigative role and are actively choosing not to use it…
VTL Moozer
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I see a drama storm starting…
To limit the information available to scum, I fibbed (aka lied).
My role has two powers, to both kill and protect via items.
The fashionable shirt (red shirt as Wyited called it) is activated during any dayphase. Then during the nightphase the target may put it on or not, with donning it costing them any other active actions for the night as they’re too distracted by how good they look… but who could kill someone who looks that good? So it protects them against all lethal actions. It does not destroy items (so the vig shot is still available, just not on a night they’re protected).
The Rubik’s cube gives two options. The one I selected turned me into a commuter for the night.
JoeBob stating that it’s also a day phase ability, makes me trust him more. Plus I can’t think of any game where Mafia actually had a protective role.
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With the currently available information, Wyited or myself must have been the NK target.
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@ILikePie5
I definitely don’t trust Wylted
Our host would have to be a true bastard mod to make a lynchproof scum.
Why did you assume Lunatic would be a lynch target today? And why not yourself since we pretty well all agree that would all but town confirm you?
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@ILikePie5
First things first, Austin is bastard for making a townie vote thief. The role is insanely scummy. Public apology to Savant.
How so? While it can be scum, it is most often town (I thought this was covered to death already)
Plus even if it were to be most often a mafia role, that would not assure a bastard mod until the end game when balance can be properly reviewed.
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Dashboard
Player DP1 NP1. DP2. NP2
Wylted. Self. RBed
Barney. Wyited. Used item
IlikePie. ???
Joebob Protected Barney w/item
Casey. N/A
Moozer. ???
Lunatic
Earth
Wylted
"You are a piece of shit for even asking me for my character claim, fuck you. Now I think you are scum and we should lynch you faggot."
Lynchproof (DP1, maybe more), vig NP1 (from auction)
Barney
Shirt auction
RSVLTS
Pie
Donald Trump
???
Joe bob
Erno Rubik
???
Casey
Un Chien Andalou (AKA “An Andalusian Dog” a 1929 French/Spanish surrealist silent short film)
??? Something passive
Moozer
Bart Simpson
???
Lunatic
If a Bear fart in the forest, and no one is a round to smell it, does it still stink?
Night action count
Earth
Rohirrim Charge at Pellonor Fields
???
Graveyard
Savant. stole vote from Earth
“Robin Hood” aka The Joker
Vote thief
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@JoeBob
Barney can confirm me when he gets on
Correct. JoeBob protected me last night… well “someone” with a Rubiks Cube did. I figure it was either JoeBob, or BobJoe.
If not for that E, we could could randomize the order to BoJoB
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@WyIted
Do you know what the red shirt does? Just a yes or no answer please
Yes.
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Have I missed anyone? And I’ll be at a real computer in a little while to properly catch up and provide some reads.
Dashboard
Player DP1 NP1. DP2. NP2
Wylted. Self
Barney. Wyited
Savant. Earth
IlikePie
Joebob
Casey
Moozer
Lunatic
Earth
Wylted
"You are a piece of shit for even asking me for my character claim, fuck you. Now I think you are scum and we should lynch you faggot."
Lynchproof (DP1, maybe more), vig NP1 (from auction)
Barney
Shirt auction
RSVLTS
Savant
Robin Hood
Vote thief
Pie
Donald Trump
???
Joe bob
Erno Rubik
???
Casey
Un Chien Andalou (AKA “An Andalusian Dog” a 1929 French/Spanish surrealist silent short film)
???
Moozer
Bart Simpson
???
Lunatic
If a Bear fart in the forest, and no one is a round to smell it, does it still stink?
???
Earth
Rohirrim Charge at Pellonor Fields
???
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@WyIted
I honestly thinking barney was scum he would've waited on this until he could better control who got the vig shot
I would have waited for later in the game, claiming it’s to be really sure who is town… or even that the power only activates DP3.
DP1 town outnumbers scum by the highest margin, so while there’s a good argument for DP2, DP1 seems like a good choice. Also drumming up activity and reads (I will post reads, just busy today).
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@Savant
@Moozer325
We need more votes on the shirt to give Wyited the whale!
Wylted is lynchproof, therefore town.
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@Savant
Please clarify if vigilante shoots at day or night.
Just heard back, yes, it's nighttime.
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For flavor, the Kraken is what I picture the shirt to be:
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@ILikePie5
@Savant
Both of you please vote on it.
Basically because you're both accused of being scum, remove yourselves from the potential recipients, while still trying to help town get a weapon.
If one of you is correct, then only one scum is out there trying to get it; that makes it unlikely for them to win, but it can be discussed.
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Everyone else, let's please carefully get the votes within range of hammering, and if anyone jumps for it side stepping discussion, we lynch that person.
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@JoeBob
what exactly does the shirt do, just give the person who votes last a vigilante kill?
Kills by looking so awesome!
But yes, it's mechanically just a bonus kill.
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@Savant
I don't think we can lynch someone if we lynch rsvlts.
We can. First someone claims the shirt, then we have the remainder of the day phase to lynch someone.
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@Savant
There’s the website for stock trading, which played a role in bankrupting a bunch of rich shitheads.
There’s Robin Hood Men In Tights
And a host of others, but the second is best.
There’s Robin Hood Men In Tights
And a host of others, but the second is best.
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@Savant
You probably already answered this, but which Robin Hood are you?
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Wylted - OMFGYS! - confirmable
Barney - RSVLTS - shirt auction
Savant - Robin Hood - daytime vote stealer?
Pie - Donald Trump
Joebob - Erno Rubik
Casey - Un Chien Andalou
Moozer - Bart Simpson
Lunatic - If a Bear fart in the forest… - time traveler! (Joke)
Earth - the Rohirrim charge at Pellenor Fields -
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I’m sure I missed plenty of role claims, please update or tell me what I missed so that I may.
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@Savant
Nope. However, the winning number was random, but less than the total number of living players excluding me.
I actually made a minor mistake. I wrongly thought random meant it would be unknown until someone reached it. Still, maximum people alive gives scum a lower chance of getting it. Probably would have waited for day 2, when we have a better idea who to trust.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@WyIted
@Moozer325
See above…
Lynch the shirt!
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@ILikePie5
@Savant
@JoeBob
@Casey_Risk
I advise lynching the shirt, after everything it did to your family it deserves it!
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