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Am I supposed to say sorry?
Admitting you can be hypocritical would be too much to ask, let alone ever expecting you to appologize for something. 
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I am not going to apologise for being nice when you helped reduce my ban time. That's just plain dumb, fake or not. It wasn't fake but given your interpretation of me, I see why you take it as fake.

Both an authentic and a fake person are inclined to be nice to people they owe.
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I am not going to apologise for being nice when you helped reduce my ban time. That's just plain dumb, fake or not. It wasn't fake but given your interpretation of me, I see why you take it as fake.

Both an authentic and a fake person are inclined to be nice to people they owe.

I never asked or expected you to apologize. I understand that sort of behavior is beneath you. 
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You don't have to say anything. You spent an entire week flaming me prior to this and when you learned I was arguing with mods over you being banned, you sent me a discord dm and said you appreciate it and then made that post.

A few weeks after that, literally after you praised Connor you messaged me calling him scum because you disagree with him about borat (literally after you just championed him)


8/12 2020

The invite links to the server are all expired but I just wanted to add lunatic to thank him


10/24

I left your shithole server btw
Connor is a seriously sad piece of shit
Just know that

I can not make this shit up 
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That implies authenticity.

A fake manipulator would do everything to stay on the good side of these useful people.
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That implies authenticity.

A fake manipulator would do everything to stay on the good side of these useful people.
You are the one making the claim that he is a manipulator, and is not authentic. BOP is on you to support these claims, instead of spouting conspiracy theories about his intentions. 
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I don't think you are manipulating people per say. I think you would suck a pp to have someone agree with you. 

I'm so happy Connor linked that thread. It's so relevant to this 


Like. 

Literally you were praising him in a pm for like a week saying how grateful you are to the old guard of ddo sticking up for you and that dart was a shit hole for banning you. 

Then a few weeks after you disagreed with him about borat and would not stop saying how shit of a person he is. 



Like you talked to me specifically about everything that had happened with us *and apologized* then got mad at me for taking his side in the borat thing like a week or two later 



I don't know what other proof you need to justify what he's saying but this is literally gold. 
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No, it isn't at all.

I can already prove it with how a guy who has 80 posts across all years of DART, before the election ends up winning it all. I can prove it in many ways and every bit of effort I put into it will only motivate him to dig into me in revenge as that is his manipulative nature.

I am not here to sabotage Max, I am here to prevent him sabotaging the website's moderation integrity and if you and Mikal both want Ragnar to step down, then yes you are right; the enemy of my enemies (that are allied heavily to my Presidential enemy Max) is perhaps a useful person, whether ally or enemy himself.

Supa has in no shape or form implied he will stand up to Max and WF despite in other ways having backbone, Ragnar already has even in moderating you.
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Tell people what Borat did then so they know what he is defending.
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It's not about what you think he did or the argument itself bro. Literally take a look at yourself and read into this. 

You went from calling this man and myself your friends and people who defend you. To apologizing to us and thanking us for sticking up for you and saying how grateful you are 

To calling him and I shit people for disagreeing with you about a fucking movie lol. 

This is literally the argument that Tim and I had about using the word lynch in Mafia but in a diff avenue. 

Do you know what a normal person does when they disagree with a friend or someone? Cool bro, agree to disagree. You took that shit from loving him to calling him a shit human being in like one conversation lmfao 
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No, it isn't at all.

I can already prove it with how a guy who has 80 posts across all years of DART, before the election ends up winning it all. I can prove it in many ways and every bit of effort I put into it will only motivate him to dig into me in revenge as that is his manipulative nature.

His post count here has nothing to do with how he won, and no you can't prove it or you would have done so already. And Max has no interest in getting revenge on you, nor does he have the ability to do so. In what was you do you think he would get revenge on you? He has been actively trying to ignore you, you on the other hand make threads like this begging for his attention, yet you think he cares enough about you to sabotage you?

I am not here to sabotage Max,
That was the entire point of this thread lol

I am here to prevent him sabotaging the website's moderation integrity and if you and Mikal both want Ragnar to step down, then yes you are right; the enemy of my enemies (that are allied heavily to my Presidential enemy Max) is perhaps a useful person, whether ally or enemy himself.
The ragnar issues had nothing to do with this thread, they were talked about elsewhere. Some of the stuff got dragged over here, but this thread was purely so you could call max out after being salty about an election. Also I was waiting for you to say the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" line. That is blatant proof of what we are talking about. You are willing to use one enemy against another you hate worse. That line is used to justify survival, not broaching friendships. People who use that line realize they are having to sell a bit of their soul, idea and belief so that aren't wiped out of existence lol. 

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Again this is just ammunition for what he's saying. If someone falls in line with your bias then you are gravy and amazing friends. When you disagree , you don't handle it well and snap 
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Do you know what a normal person does when they disagree with a friend or someone? Cool bro, agree to disagree. You took that shit from loving him to calling him a shit human being in like one conversation lmfao 
I literally tried this approach with RationalMadman and it simply didn't work. All of the current beef happened because he refused to simply agree to disagree. And now it's spiraled to the point where I am just a bully for having different opinions than him. SMH
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"I am not here to sabotage Max"

Literally makes a thread calling out max, even has the thread with tagline "callout".

What a meme. 
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Yeah I mean I can even see this rationally but most people come around and accept they are stupid. There have been times you are mad at me because I am playing other games and think I dislike you and you get pissed and I have to be like 

Bro get your head out of your ass

And then you are like, you right I think to much 


Or times when you have called me out for being stubborn. 

The rational way to respond to that shit is self reflect and apologize when you are wrong or stick to your guns when you think it's worth it. But not stick to your guns when you are blatantly wrong lol 
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That was the entire point of this thread lol


Actually this thread wasn't about what you think it was about.

He'd been ignoring me and treating me as if he's 'above replying to me' I was seeing if I could get him to finally acknowledge me and he did.
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To calling him and I shit people for disagreeing with you about a fucking movie lol. 
It wasn't a movie, it was a real-life actor Sacha Baron Cohen's actions.
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You being acknowledged doesn't make this any less of a call out thread. And you keep talking about how corrupt he is and stuff. Be honest. 
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That line is used to justify survival, not broaching friendships. 
Uniquely for me, my survival on this website actually can be dependent on it in this case.
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It doesn't matter what it's about. It could be about 

Fuck God , he's a cunt and you could be a Christian. 

I literally have Christian best friends and we disagree about fundamental worldview shit and we get along perfect. Because we understand we aren't changing each other's minds and let it go 
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You being acknowledged doesn't make this any less of a call out thread. And you keep talking about how corrupt he is and stuff. Be honest. 
Then shut it down and tell the mods to ban me if you want to. You said you wouldn't. However, he needs to himself say he wants it done as he's the one being called out.
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Fuck God , he's a cunt and you could be a Christian. 
No, I would not necessarily be okay with that then depending on the context and how Christian I was.
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I literally have Christian best friends and we disagree about fundamental worldview shit and we get along perfect. Because we understand we aren't changing each other's minds and let it go 
Aquaintances or best friends?
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That line is used to justify survival, not broaching friendships. 
Uniquely for me, my survival on this website actually can be dependent on it in this case.
Your survival on this website isn't hinged to any of us. The only way you would leave this website is if you quit it. 

You being acknowledged doesn't make this any less of a call out thread. And you keep talking about how corrupt he is and stuff. Be honest. 
Then shut it down and tell the mods to ban me if you want to. You said you wouldn't. However, he needs to himself say he wants it done as he's the one being called out.
I'd rather shut you down argumentatively than with a ban. But then you just cherry pick what to respond to so it meets your agenda. 
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This is what I mean when I say you are socially unaware. No one's banning you for this thread. No one gives a shit. It's just annoying. Like you literally made this thread because he would not respond to you and that bothered you to no end. Like you cannot simply accept he was annoyed by you or that you may be in the wrong and are causing it. He is evil for ignoring me, he is wrong, he is bad, he is a bully because he is ignoring me. Never looking at *why* he is. Even goes out of his way to tell you to drop the past and move on and watch what he does not on stuff you disagree about in the past and you still can't let it go.

I literally not understand how you are that socially inept and I'm not even meaning that as a insult. Like how you can not read this situation 
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Even goes out of his way to tell you to drop the past and move on and watch what he does not on stuff you disagree about in the past and you still can't let it go.
Sure, then I want him to condone the actions of you and Lunatic towards me during the election. Then I can accept him.

I want him to explicitly condone your bullying of me and saying I did things that violate the law regarding consent in a rap and later remark towards me.
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Like literal best friends. Known them since they were 7 and grew up and went to school and college together and still do DND 25 years later. 

I have quite a lot of people who I consider best friends. Both online and off. People I literally know without a blink would take a bullet for me or have my back if everything went to shit. 

And I disagree vehemently with those people on a large variety of topics. But you know how you get past that. 

Literally agree to disagree and talk about shit rationally and don't think everyone is attacking you when they don't agree with what you are saying 
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He already explicitly said he does not agree with it. He also thinks you are dumb but will not say it. He can disagree with all 3 of us lmfao. 
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I have quite a lot of people who I consider best friends. Both online and off. People I literally know without a blink would take a bullet for me or have my back if everything went to shit. 
That sounds sociopathic, how can you have so many people who'd take the bullet for you without you taking it instead and on top of that that many you classify as 'best friend'?

That's very odd to me, you sound manipulative.

A human should have like 3 best friends, maximum 4.
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He already explicitly said he does not agree with it. He also thinks you are dumb but will not say it. He can disagree with all 3 of us lmfao. 
I want him to say it, either he condones or condemns it.