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Do you want me to screenshot more of that to call you on that bullshit. I can screenshot the entire dm

Your entire goal in that message was to try and convince me he was being mean to you.

"Your friend is a bully"

You literally spent that entire thread trying to paint him as a bad guy claiming that whiteflame and I are blind to it so you hope that when you don't respond we will be able to see it 


Gtfo with your gaslighting bullshit lol 
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I was genuinely asking you if you could justify to me why not replying was a remotely optimal approach when he was calling me out for not replying.

It was as simple as that.
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I don't pander to anyone. I just understand how unpleasant you are to interact with. You are socially braindead so don't have the mental capacity to read situations in a way that makes people want to be around you. So no, I'm not forcing like 5+ people to engage with you when no one likes being around you. You have max not responding to you because you are so dense and he's literally nice to everyone. 
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You see, you and Luna relish in 'triggering' me calling me a snowflake and all this other shit.

Real snowflakes are people who need to ban somebody because they can't handle how authentic and independent he is from their groupthink.
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You are not banned from the website because the goal of this is to be able to engage and debate with people who you agree / disagree with 

The goal of our local discord is to have people we enjoy hanging out with and playing games with. Chilling and having a good time. No one puts you in that category and most literally will not come around if you are there. It's not just you I banned I have banned other users for having the same vibe. If and when you gain social awareness and aren't a plague, you are welcome back (if they want you back). Granted I think you want to join as much as they want you there. 
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Dear Mikal, one day it is possible that you will get social awareness and realise what an asinine self-deluded bully you are.

Until then, have fun playing this 'I'm really the good guy here' role.
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The irony of that statement is so meme worthy that it's a perfect way to end this conversation lmao 

Keep drooling on your keyboard brother. 
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No, are you saying Ragnar came up with the 6 months?
No? drafter was the one who wanted the 6 month ban. He even later suggested permabanning you. Ragnar was okay with three months, and after the fiasco with the thread you made and a combination of me talking to him, he wanted to go to 1 month ban. 

The length of your ban is beside the point,  I am discussing the reasons for your ban and pointing out to you the guy making those decisions used annoyance as a factor in making those decisions. Hate me as much as you want, but I talked people out of banning you multiple times in that discord.  This was all back in Augest of 2020.

They later wanted to permaban you and it seems we had changed a lot of minds at that point.

Virtuoso: @Everyone, thoughts on perma banning RM for extreme toxicity? 

Supadudz: Strong No, asbolutely not

Whiteflame: I don't think permabanning is the way to go

MisterChris: I don't think he warrants a permaban

Ragnar: Permabanning him would be like an endorsement


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He's defending Ragnar because Ragnar happens to have agreed with him on one topic. The second Ragnar disagrees with him he's going to go back to his Ragnar filled hate rants. He's 1 dimensional and low iq
Oh I know. I am well aware that RM doesn't actually stand for anything. He was doing this all election as well with Max, which is why I kept saying he didn't actually support max lol 
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Okay, then Supadudz didn't lie, he just confused drafter with virtuoso (and given how he makes mistakes in Mafia, I'd believe he could do that) when telling me something about that chat.

Thank you for defending me. I am not sure what to make of it, however I don't want Airmax in President seat with whiteflame in chief mod seat without others mods that will stick up to them, it's too unanimous control.

I also want to thank Supa and MC.
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No I'm brutally honest and you are a whiny bitch. You change your bias based on who you dislike more in the moment. Two months down the road when Luna and I disagree on something you will be messaging one of us saying you agree with us and not the other. It's how you operate. Do whatever you can to justify your confirmation bias. 

It's literally why you dmed me when I told you to stop responding to Luna. You wanted me to feed into your worldview that he was bullying you and I don't play that shit. 

100% ^^^
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Two months down the road when Luna and I disagree on something you will be messaging one of us saying you agree with us and not the other. 
Why is this me having not real view?
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Side note. Can you confirm we literally have took a vote before with like ten+ people in chat and like 8/10 said no to him being in the discord. Me being ironically one of the two who did not care. like people saying they would not play Mafia or come around if he's there so he doesn't think I'm some overlord dictator

Not that I care , I just want to purge that from his worldview so that he can accept he annoys everyone and it's not me unilaterally deciding it. 
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Two months down the road when Luna and I disagree on something you will be messaging one of us saying you agree with us and not the other. 
Why is this me having not real view?

We are saying you side with whoever is against the person you currently have the strongest emotions against. You sided with pie, because you hated me more, despite the fact that you and pie have clashed multiple times in the past. You sided with Ragnar because you hate me more than him right now, despite multiple clashes with him. You sided with 3RU7AL after calling his campaign sh1t for weeks, just because your grudge against me was worse. The only time you ever "Sided" with me was when I first took your side against the mods trying to permaban you two years ago, but then you went back on that when I did the same thing for wylted because you didn't like wylted. Then later you admitted you had no idea of the context for why wylted was being banned, and said you were wrong.

See a pattern here? You only agree with people as a means for manipulation. Whoever you hate the most at the time, you will literally side with anyone who also seems to be "against them". If you stood for something or had a real view you would stay with that view no matter who it was for.

Me and you have been arguing with each other for weeks for example. Ragnar keeps saying the only reason he is lecturing me about things and not you for doing the same things is because I am not reporting your posts. If I wanted you banned or in trouble I could do that, but I don't want you banned. Regardless of your opinion on me, fair moderation is something I have stood for from the beginning, regardless of who it is for or against. And even though you hate me, I do not want you banned because I see you as a valuable member of this website, even if you can be extremely stubborn sometimes. 
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See a pattern here? You only agree with people as a means for manipulation. Whoever you hate the most at the time, you will literally side with anyone who also seems to be "against them". If you stood for something or had a real view you would stay with that view no matter who it was for.
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 You sided with pie, because you hated me more
No, you hated Pie more actually.

I just hated your voter intimidation.
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 You sided with Ragnar because you hate me more than him right now
do you believe Ragnar will stick up to whiteflame and airmax when the time comes?

If yes, I want him there.
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Side note. Can you confirm we literally have took a vote before with like ten+ people in chat and like 8/10 said no to him being in the discord. Me being ironically one of the two who did not care. like people saying they would not play Mafia or come around if he's there so he doesn't think I'm some overlord dictator

Not that I care , I just want to purge that from his worldview so that he can accept he annoys everyone and it's not me unilaterally deciding it. 
I can't remember exactly, I know there was a couple people who said they would not join a mafia game if he was there. But I don't really approve of banning anyone from my discord. I think I called you out for it at the time, and convinced you to unban him. 




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You sided with 3RU7AL after calling his campaign sh1t for weeks
His campaign was so shit, Athias hardcarried it.
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Yeah I forgot. I actually did unban him

Was like a large majority of the people who were there for that game, yes. I totally forgot we removed it. Not naming names because it's mean but I can recall exactly who said it and it was around 8. We had like 13 people there that night I believe. Was before I yeeted the other one as well 
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 You sided with pie, because you hated me more
No, you hated Pie more actually.

I just hated your voter intimidation.
No because after that you started using pie and that thread to serve your agenda, despite that fact that I told you multiple times me and pie worked out our beef via PM. 

do you believe Ragnar will stick up to whiteflame and airmax when the time comes?

If yes, I want him there.
You are implying that Max will commit some "wrong doing". Ragnar has moderation power here, all Max can do is advise and potentially veto a decision. That is literally it. And as I keep telling you, Max and Ragnar are friends and always have been. My argument with Ragnar is my own. This "ragnar is a man of the people" standard you are setting is irrelevant to the discussion. I am just pointing out that your defense of ragnar is funny in light of the fact that he would have sought out oppertunity to repress you in the past had it not been for me defending you. 
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No because after that you started using pie and that thread to serve your agenda, despite that fact that I told you multiple times me and pie worked out our beef via PM. 
Because it wasn't about Pie, it was about your behaviour.
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You sided with 3RU7AL after calling his campaign sh1t for weeks
His campaign was so shit, Athias hardcarried it.

Right, so you agree with me that you only side with people as a matter of convienence of them being against someone you hate more. Got it. 
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You know sometimes life is a sick and twisted joke. The only ones who have been nice to me or remotely open-minded during this time are the people from DDO I resented. I appreciate this experience a lot, let me know where I really stand with people and now I understand exactly what the DDO crowd were saying about DART. There is something seriously backstab-oriented about DART's social landscape.
This aged well and ironically backs up Luna's point. You were nice to us (this post was literally about me ) because we were defending your ban 
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Because it wasn't about Pie, it was about your behaviour.
What does my behavior have to do with anything? My beef with pie is mine alone. I could bring up your past behavior with pie if I wanted to as well. You guys weren't exactly friends either. 
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You are implying that Max will commit some "wrong doing". Ragnar has moderation power here, all Max can do is advise and potentially veto a decision. That is literally it.
  1. Max is a corrupt motherfucker oh yes he is. Thanks, don't talk laissez-faire BS with me about Maxipad. I am the one user who knows his dark side for sure.
  2. Ragnar is shady given that you revealed his stance was as it was. However, if Ragnar is against Max and Whiteflame (and Max is very influential over WF, he has a way with words and social power) I absolutely want Ragnar in that position, able to stick it to the man.

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You know sometimes life is a sick and twisted joke. The only ones who have been nice to me or remotely open-minded during this time are the people from DDO I resented. I appreciate this experience a lot, let me know where I really stand with people and now I understand exactly what the DDO crowd were saying about DART. There is something seriously backstab-oriented about DART's social landscape.
This aged well and ironically backs up Luna's point. You were nice to us (this post was literally about me ) because we were defending your ban 

SO true bro.
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This aged well and ironically backs up Luna's point. You were nice to us (this post was literally about me ) because we were defending your ban 
Am I supposed to say sorry?
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Max is a corrupt motherfucker oh yes he is. Thanks, don't talk laissez-faire BS with me about Maxipad. I am the one user who knows his dark side for sure.
This is an extremely biased take that you refuse to substantiate. Also you are judging him for a ban years ago. You don't think you are both different people now? 

Ragnar is shady given that you revealed his stance was as it was. However, if Ragnar is against Max and Whiteflame (and Max is very influential over WF, he has a way with words and social power) I absolutely want Ragnar in that position, able to stick it to the man.
RAGNAR ISN'T AGAINST ANY OF THEM LIKE I KEEP SAYING. What makes you think that Ragnar is against max and whiteflame lol. They have been nothing but friendly and cordial with each other. 


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He didn't vote either candidate in the election.

I will wait for Ragnar to say his stance.