Debate?

For it was said by Christ himself "this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Don't expect to figure it out on your own.

The Orthodox Catholic Church is the Christian Church. That being the case, instruction should be received from the holy orders of the church.

Ask Ramshutu. I can't debate this. It will take too long given the amount of depth I would have to go to.

If Ramshutu doesn't want to do it then simply have it open and if unitelligble people accept the debate you will get free wins and you can  use the comment section to decide a better candidate. 

Sorry about that. Learnt my lesson for accepting debates that I have no real interest in partaking in like the more recent border wall. It was a catfight turned into a debate. Rarely turns into something fruitful. My main reason is still time even if I was given a week to post arguments. 

So you're conceding the debate? After all that fuss about "truth" & "wrong"... should've known.

"Canon law" is a very Roman Catholic way of refering to the canons of the church. The Orthodox Church is not a legalistic entity.

I must again point out that the church was pushed into a position of governance under the Turks, and this arrangement in itself is not canonical. That is why today the church doesn't operate in this manner.

Of course we know why you don't agree with The Church on what Jesus taught or even about who Jesus is. It is because you believe the false prophet over The One Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

But the fulfillment of your religion is in Jesus Christ, and it is impossible for you to understand this with a Muslim understanding of Jesus. You must have an Orthodox understanding of Jesus.

For it was said by Christ himself "this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

You know sure as I do that The Ultimate Reality is God, and there is no other. You don't know Jesus Christ. For knowing Jesus in the  way you know Jesus is not eternal life.

Church canons are not secular laws. 

Jesus Christ appointed apostles. The apostles appointed bishops. We know what Jesus taught. We know who Jesus is. 

We do not believe in three gods, we believe in One God.

Yet Jesus Christ promises that the gates of hell will not overthrow the church, so there can not be a time when the church ceased to exist. The chain is not broken. 

I understand you must believe this in order to justify Mohammed, but we certainly see him as a false prophet and forerunner of the antichrist.

That might not sound nice to you, but it is what we believe. Several of the things that he taught about Jesus were condemned as heresies centuries before he lived. The writings of the apostles themselves testify against him.

In fact, if you make Jesus a mere man or prophet, you disrupt the very prophecies that He came to fulfill.

You don't understand what the trinity is. We certainly believe in one God. In fact, tritheism we recognize as a heresy. As is calling Mary a part of the trinity as your Koran claims we believe.

Acknowledging The Trinity is how we know God and recognize God rather than mistaking a conception of God as God.

The Son is The Most Perfect Image of God. The Word of God. The Truth.

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of Truth.

The Father is revealed in The Son by The Holy Spirit that proceeds from The Father, through The Son, and acting in us through cooperation and submission to His Will.

As Jesus Christ said, "true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him."

Worshipping The Father in Spirit and in Truth. This is The Trinity.

So if The Father is known to us by the spirit of Truth in The Most Perfect Image of The Truth, what does that tell us about The Father?

We both know that God is The Ultimate Reality. The Truth.

And so The Trinity explains how God is with us. The Trinity, One in essence and Undivided. Not three Gods. Not God in 3 parts. 

This is called a divine mystery for a reason, but it is important and it means something. As I said, it is the difference between worshipping a conception as God and recognizing that as created beings operating in the realm of creation, our relationship with God is through creation.

And it is in the hypostasis of The Son that all of creation is united to God.

God manifests Himself in creation through His Word and Spirit. This describes how God relates to man and how we relate to God. 

The Word is Truth. Surely, God is The Truth.

The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of Truth. Surely it is The Spirit of Truth that enlivens all things.

If it is The Spirit of Truth that comes from The Father, through The Son, and reveals The Father to us through The Son, what ellse can The Father Be?

The Son is The Most Perfect Image of The Father.

The Son is God incarnate in creation. That is, God with Us. The Truth.

We are not simply talking about prophets when we speak of Jesus Christ, we are speaking of The Word of God made flesh, dwelling among us. That through His death and resurrection, Christ conquered death by death bestowing life to those in the tombs, drawing all creation to Himself, and uniting it to Him.

Eternal life is to know The One True God, and The One sent, Jesus Christ.

You know as well as I do that The Ultimate Reality is God, and there can only be One. It should also be apparwnt that our relationship with The Uncreated is through the medium of creation as created beings. The Flesh of The Word is creation.

do you have any evidence of miracles happening to muslims in recent time? do you have any evidence of near death experiences with content that verifies islam in recent time? 

- So, Jesus is the incarnation of God on Earth, & is also part of the creation

- How can Jesus -the god- conquer death?! If he was god incarnate in man, then he can't die to begin with. If he was man raised to god, then he isn't divine to begin with.

There are two natures of The Son. Fully Divine, fully man. The man part is creation, because God became creation. The incarnation effectively deifies creation, uniting it to God in the fleshly nature of the hypostasis of The Son.

This is not the same as pantheism, that is, saying the universe(creation) is God. We are more accurately described as panentheists. That is, God is everywhere present in creation, but pre-exists creation. Is of a distinct nature. Uncreated rather than created. In fact, God's word even pre-exists time, being co-eternal with The Father. God is present in creation through His Word and His Spirit.

It is the incarnation of God that gives creation its reality.

Not god, God. The persistent reality is Christ. The Divine nature does not die, it is the fleshly nature that dies. For the present to exist, the past must die. For the future to exist, the present must die. But Christ is here past, present, and future, and all of creation rises along with Christ, united to His flesh. On the last day, all of creation will be resurrected, and the light of Truth will shine through all revealing everything as it truly is. In doing this, death is abolished. 

It is written by The Apostle Jesus loved, Saint John the theologian, "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

The second death being the death of death. That is why we say that the divine glory of God on the day of resurrection is both the light of heaven and the fire of hell. It is both eternal life and eternal death. Eternal life because to abide in God is to abide in life. Eternal death because to abide in delusion is to abide in death. As it is written by the Prophet King David, "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.", and so the light of Truth conquers death, for death has no dominion over The Truth. Yet all are resurrected, either to glory or shame. There is no escape from God.

Jesus Christ not only taught in parables. His entire life, from his conception in Mary the theotokos' womb through his crucifixion and resurrection was a parable. 

And so Jesus Christ fulfills all the law and the prophets. The one they point to is Him.

- If God is everywhere, then he is bound by space & time, which makes him un-god. Panentheism is an incoherent self-defeating belief.

- So Jesus is just like everyone else, resurrected & risen to heaven for eternal life...

- Where? What is the proof for any of this?