Anyone wishes to debate on the topic of Islam?
Why didn't your god know that Muhammad was illiterate?
An AMA thread would be more suitable than a debate
Will you be eternal in paradise according to Islam
John III Sobieski. After his victories over the Muslim Turkish Empire- aka the Muslim Ottoman empire the muslims called him the "Lion of Lechistan"; and the Pope hailed him as the savior of Christendom.
Did Sobieski deserve both these titles
and why had Allah failed his adherents in not rewarding the muslims victory at this time and not it seems, any other time before this conquering Turkish muslim hoard had taken swaths of Europe, the Holy Lands and and large parts of the Indian continent?
- Yes, though eternal =/= everlasting.
ok, given notorious verses such as 2:191"And kill them wherever you overtake them"and 5:51"Do not take the Jews and the Christians friends"Shouldn't you be out there killing Christians rather than being friendly with them?
Hmm, i'm a bit confused how the two don't correlate.
Let me make the question more specific then: When / if i get the paradise, will i ever die again?
Let me define die a little: Death would mean taking you out of that reality. So dying in paradise would mean you are not in paradise anymore. It doesn't however mean that by you dying you didn't go somewhere else. So, the main point in my question above is can you leave paradise.
This Islamic scholar disagrees....
within which all their desires & wishes come true.
But you don't believe in death.It's a C rate movie as a finite being and i can put up with it bc there is death at the end of the tunnel.
If you're asking why God didn't give victory to the Muslims when they are in the right,
why had Allah failed his adherents in not rewarding the muslims victory at this time and not it seems, any other time before this conquering Turkish muslim hoard had taken swaths of Europe, the Holy Lands and and large parts of the Indian continent?
then this equally extends to all other groups,
for all of them may taste victory as they taste defeat -as Christians in Europe were not given victory over Muslims in countless occasions.
In Islam, we don't believe victory is a sign of divine favor -unless in the cause of Allah ;
The Ottomans conquered the eastern part of Europe,
they did not rule the Indian subcontinent!
--> @keithprosserok, given notorious verses such as 2:191"And kill them wherever you overtake them"and 5:51"Do not take the Jews and the Christians friends"Shouldn't you be out there killing Christians rather than being friendly with them?- Who says I'm not already doing that... LOL! Seriously, I know. It's getting really old though. It's just baffling to me how they can quote that verse & say it incites violence against [insert whomever] with a straight face, as if they don't know that self defense is!! Of course, by conveniently omitting the whole context & the inconvenient bits, like when you read a classified document with all the blackouts... They see "kill them wherever you overtake them"... & not "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you"..."but do not transgress'..."Allah does not like transgressors"..."... they have expelled you* ..."And do not fight them at the Holy Mosque until they fight you there"...'if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors"...etc.- As for the second verse, it's another interesting twist. The Salafis LOVE that, of course when it suits them. Thank God they aren't big on that mantra since Trump, now they are buddy-buddies. The classical schools, however, agree that befriending or loving non-Muslims is only prohibited in matters of religion, as the verses specify. That is, to befriend them or love them for their religion or to support their religion or support them against Muslims: "Allah does not forbid youfrom those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from acting kindly and justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers". (60:8-9), Obviously a Muslim can not support a non-Muslim to transgress against other Muslims, that's treason. The Prophet (pbuh) had a lot of non-Muslim friends whom he loved, particularly his uncle, his son-in-law, his Jewish neighbor... & a lot of allies among them too, the Christian Abyssinians, the Copts of Egypt, most Jewish tribes of Medina (except the three that betrayed him).,,etc! The whole notion is patently absurd.
This Islamic scholar disagrees....
I believe i die from this reality/world. Can i come back eons later, maybe. But, coming back or changing the scenery doesn't matter. I believe i will die and get the hell out of here... either that death will be another reality hopefully nothing like this one, or death is just the end of everything... both would be preferable to any "paradise" i can never die.But you don't believe in death.
I believe i die from this reality/world.
If death means an end... becoming nothingness, you are right, i believe that version less than the alternatives. At least for me. My spiritual beliefs get tricky. If one truly thinks they die and are gone forever... maybe that exists too (i don't know). So, technically i believe both. But for myself, personally, you are right i don't believe in your definition of death. I choose to believe my definition is correct.You don't believe in death.
Why would anyone think anything else except to pacify their fear of death? What has anyone seen or experienced that would suggest otherwise.If one truly thinks they die and are gone forever
I choose to believe my definition is correct.
