Reincarnation: a real phenomenon that Christianity hid on purpose

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Jesus death was not a human sacrifice in the same manner as other types of human sacrifice. It wasn't an ordinary sacrifice like the animal in the temple. There were vast similarities and vast differences. I've touched on some of those things above.  Yet none of these things diminish the role he played. 
Jesus was crucified by the Romans. 
Was crucifixion common in the time of Jesus?
Crucifixion in Roman times was applied mostly to slaves, disgraced soldiers, Christians and foreigners--only very rarely to Roman citizens.

How many people were crucified during Jesus' time?
Conservative estimates are that in the Roman period 300,000 people were crucified, including large numbers of enslaved individuals, most in Europe, in Italy. But a figure of more than two million is more realistic.

It’s the Jews that did not perform human sacrifice. They were forbidden by God.

It wasn't just a dead Jew, it was a particular line - of the promise - that would bring us to the Messiah. That would point out who he was. The Holocaust was evil. And anti-Semitism has no place in the world.  And without the Christ, then all humanity would end up in destruction - completely of their own free will and choice. Your words demonstrate where you stand. And that is a matter for you. 
It was not the Jews that performed human sacrifice. They were forbidden by God. The Romans crucified Jesus and 375 years later turned his crucifixion into an act of salvation. Spreading the belief as Gods chosen people the Jews could forgive sins. Then using Jesus as an example introduced the Holocaust to sacrifice Jews in numbers to forgive the growing population of Christian sinners.
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You're right that crucifixion was a brutal and common Roman punishment, especially for non-citizens and slaves. Historically, Jesus' death was viewed as redemptive by Christians from the very beginning, not as a later Roman invention. The early church, particularly the apostle Paul, emphasized Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection as the cornerstone of salvation.
Regarding Jewish practices, it's true that Jewish law strictly forbade human sacrifice (Deuteronomy 12:31). The suggestion that the Holocaust was some form of "Christian" act of atonement is historically and theologically false. The Holocaust was a genocide driven by anti-Semitic ideology, which was entirely opposed to the teachings of Jesus and Christian values.
Jesus' death was not a human sacrifice in the pagan sense. It was a voluntary act of love and obedience, fulfilling God's promise to redeem humanity through the Messiah. His sacrifice was unique because He was sinless and divine, taking on the penalty of sin for all people. Christians believe that His resurrection confirmed the victory over sin and death.
These distinctions matter because they prevent misunderstanding and highlight the message at the heart of Christianity: God's love demonstrated through Jesus, not hatred or violence.
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Tradesecret wrote @ Shila: Jesus' death was not a human sacrifice in the pagan sense.  It was a voluntary act of love and obedience.

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The Reverend never ceases to amaze, does he?  Take slow long look at the bold underlined above, Shila.  Particularly the words "Voluntary" and "Obedience".  
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Jesus' death was not a human sacrifice in the pagan sense. It was a voluntary act of love and obedience, fulfilling God's promise to redeem humanity through the Messiah. His sacrifice was unique because He was sinless and divine, taking on the penalty of sin for all people. Christians believe that His resurrection confirmed the victory over sin and death.
Jesus was crucified by pagans, the Romans did not believe in Jesus. Even the Jews shouted crucify him, crucify him. Jesus was betrayed by Jesus and Peter lied about Jesus 3 times. His crucifixion was not unique.

Why was Jesus crucified according to the Romans?
Jesus was arrested on a charge of treason and was crucified, a common form of execution for condemned criminals. To the Romans, Jesus was a troublemaker who had got his just desserts. To the Christians, however, he was a martyr and it was soon clear that the execution had made Judaea even more unstable.

How many people did the Romans crucify?
Conservative estimates are that in the Roman period 300,000 people were crucified, including large numbers of enslaved individuals, most in Europe, in Italy. But a figure of more than two million is more realistic.

The people chose Jesus over Barabbas to be crucified.
Matthew 27:17 With the crowd before him, Pilate said, "Which prisoner do you want me to pardon: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus the so-called Christ?" The crowd picked Barabbas to pardon.

Jesus could not save himself or his disciples. They were all killed after he was crucified.
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The people chose Jesus over Barabbas to be crucified.

Whose full name was Jesus Barabbas.  Which Jesus died?
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@Shila
You raise important historical facts. Yes, crucifixion was a common form of Roman execution, particularly for crimes like treason. What makes Jesus' crucifixion unique isn't the method of execution but the theological significance attached to it. Christians believe that Jesus' death was not a political defeat but a divine act of love and redemption, fulfilling centuries of prophecy.
Regarding the crowd choosing Barabbas, it's a tragic reflection of human rejection of truth and justice. Yet Jesus willingly went to the cross, not because He was powerless, but because His mission was to lay down His life for humanity (John 10:18).
As for His disciples, many were indeed killed, but their willingness to die rather than renounce Jesus is remarkable. Historical records show that they boldly proclaimed His resurrection despite facing intense persecution. This courage suggests they genuinely believed they had witnessed Jesus alive after His crucifixion.
The crucifixion may have seemed like a defeat, but for Christians, it represents victory over sin and death. I understand skepticism about these claims. However, they remain central to why Christianity grew and transformed lives, even in a hostile Roman world. Would you be interested in exploring any of these points further?
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The crucifixion may have seemed like a defeat, but for Christians, it represents victory over sin and death. I understand skepticism about these claims. However, they remain central to why Christianity grew and transformed lives, even in a hostile Roman world. Would you be interested in exploring any of these points further?
Even though the Romans were polytheist they rejected Jesus and crucified him.

What religion was Rome before Christianity?
Roman Religion & Mythology | Overview & Beliefs - Lesson ...
Polytheism. What was the Roman religion like? Prior to the arrival of Christianity, Romans practiced a polytheistic religion, meaning that they worshipped multiple gods. Unlike many contemporary religions like Islam, Judaism, or Hinduism, the Roman religion had no official name.

How long did it take the Romans to see Jesus the jew they crucified as a self sacrifice?

How long did it take for Rome to accept Christianity?

Over time, the Christian church and faith grew more organized. In 313 AD, the Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, which accepted Christianity: 10 years later, it had become the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Why did the Jews continue to reject Jesus even to this day?

Why did many people reject Jesus as the Messiah?
Jesus was preaching about forgiveness of sin and repentance. Many Jews refused to acknowledge him as the Messiah, as Jesus was preaching a doctrine contrary to their beliefs and expectations. In their eyes he was far from being the 'Messiah.

Where in the Bible does it say Jesus came to save the Jews?
Matthew 15: 24
It is recorded in Matthew 15: 24 “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Remember, God chose the Israelite's as his own and He was their God. If you were drawn to God, you didn't remain a Gentile and worship God, you were circumcised as a male and became Jewish.

The Romans went on to destroy the temple after crucifying Jesus and replacing Judaism with the Roman Catholic Church by turning the crucifixion of Jesus a criminal to a sacrifice of salvation. Turning Jesus into a God out of the many Gods they worshipped.