Reincarnation: a real phenomenon that Christianity hid on purpose

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This is similar to the UFO phenomenon. The Roman Empire translated and changed the meaning of the original bible in order to keep people from knowing the real facts, like the reincarnation. Most first christian sects believed in reincarnation, though nowadays Christians believe that human beings have only one life after which their "souls" are sent either to hell or heaven, according to their deeds and the judgement of a "god". Nevertheless, the bible and the science contradict such Christian belief.

The current bible has no reference to reincarnation because it was removed but there are some hints that lead us to think that reincarnation was a Christian doctrine at the beginning. "Now the Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” John 1, 24-25. In that verse, Elijah had already long died but the Pharisees asked if John the Baptist was him. It's not a direct reference to reincarnation but I think we all understand what the pharisees tried to say.

Also, the science has been researching this phenomenon. There are thousands of cases about reincarnation, one of them even adapted into a movie, "Yesterday's children". I wish I knew more how reincarnation works but at least I can make out several things about it from the many readings I had and also from my observations. From what I understand, what religions call "soul" is actually a sort of technology that resembles an AI. The "soul", as well as the AI, needs experience in order to learn and thus to evolve, that's why the soul incarnates in this life or reality, in order to find the experience it needs to evolve. As it is evident, the soul needs a lot of incarnations because a 60 year life in average is not enough (courtesy of the aliens). The evolution process is still ongoing so we are not going to hell or heaven after death as Christianity claims, we'll keep incarnating and evolving until our bodies get enough long-lived to stop the incarnation process.

Reincarnation can explain several things about us. For example, children that are gifted with something like music, maths, arts, etc. Science can't explain it.  You'll be asking why we don't remember our past lives, well we actually can but we need to get hypnotized because those memories are in the unconsciousness. There are several things about it that make a lot of sense so I think reincarnation is real and is part of the human being nature. We need to be open minded and keep researching in order to find the truth (although the fucking aliens will bring the truth anyway).
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Reincarnation is kinda scary. I was very stupid as a kid. Not sure if I want to go through that again over and over. On the bright side, after AI becomes supreme intelligence, the world will be organized better so my next childhood should be better too.
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Reincarnation is kinda scary.
Why scary? Scarier is to burn in hell for eternity. Haha. 
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Scarier is to burn in hell for eternity.
That is more scary, but this is scary too.

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Reincarnation can explain several things about us. For example, children that are gifted with something like music, maths, arts, etc. Science can't explain it.  You'll be asking why we don't remember our past lives, well we actually can but we need to get hypnotized because those memories are in the unconsciousness. There are several things about it that make a lot of sense so I think reincarnation is real and is part of the human being nature. We need to be open minded and keep researching in order to find the truth (although the fucking aliens will bring the truth anyway).

Why Hindus are very successful?  They have past life experience.
Most Hindus believe that humans are in a cycle of death and rebirth called samsara. When a person dies, their atman (soul) is reborn in a different body. Some believe rebirth happens directly at death, others believe that an atman may exist in other realms.
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Why Hindus are very successful?  They have past life experience.
Most Hindus believe that humans are in a cycle of death and rebirth called samsara. When a person dies, their atman (soul) is reborn in a different body. Some believe rebirth happens directly at death, others believe that an atman may exist in other realms.
What are you trying to say? That reincarnation belief is counterproductive?

I remind you that this belief is present in several countries of different continents and not all of them are fucked as India.
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Why Hindus are very successful?  They have past life experience.
Most Hindus believe that humans are in a cycle of death and rebirth called samsara. When a person dies, their atman (soul) is reborn in a different body. Some believe rebirth happens directly at death, others believe that an atman may exist in other realms.
What are you trying to say? That reincarnation belief is counterproductive?
Read what I posted.
Why Hindus are very successful?  They have past life experience.
I remind you that this belief is present in several countries of different continents and not all of them are fucked as India.
Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world.
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Why Hindus are very successful? They have past life eexperience.
I thought you were being sarcastic. So, apparently you are not. 

In which way do you think hinduism is succesful? 
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Why Hindus are very successful? They have past life eexperience.

I thought you were being sarcastic. So, apparently you are not.

In which way do you think hinduism is succesful?

Hinduism is the world's third-largest religion, with approximately 1.20 billion followers, or around 15% of the global population, known as Hindus. It is the most widely professed faith in India, Nepal, Mauritius, and in Bali, Indonesia.

Why is Hinduism the greatest religion?
Hinduism is liked and followed by many people because this religion gives us freedom of thoughts and actions. No one is bounded by anything. Believers of this religion are free to Express their views on their own religion too, they are free to share and not accept the things they don't want to follow.

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This is not being succesful. As I said, people reincarnate to evolve. India seems to be stuck in the past. Although I think they did a clever move when they kicked the brits out of their country, tha was a good example worth to follow. 
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This is not being succesful. As I said, people reincarnate to evolve. India seems to be stuck in the past. Although I think they did a clever move when they kicked the brits out of their country, tha was a good example worth to follow.


What makes India so successful?
India is one of the fastest-growing economies in the world. Agriculture was once India's main source of revenue and income but it fell to approximately 16.7% of the country's GDP by 2022. The service industry in India increased from a fraction of the GDP to approximately 48.4% from the early 1960s through 2022.

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The Trump bible teaches reintarnation, which says when you die, you come back as a hillbilly, that's where MAGA voters come from.
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For those that believe in "the spirit" one would think that reincarnation was more probable than the belief that a rotten stinking 3 days old corpse returns to life.  

And did the ancients know the difference between a comma or being unconscious and being dead? I often wonder how many people had been buried alive in the days of the ignorant masses?
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For those that believe in "the spirit" one would think that reincarnation was more probable than the belief that a rotten stinking 3 days old corpse returns to life.  

And did the ancients know the difference between a comma or being unconscious and being dead? I often wonder how many people had been buried alive in the days of the ignorant masses?
Jesus’s karma was already determined as bad. He was destined to be crucified. His reincarnation would have been worse having died a convicted criminal. His second return being delayed is a sign all is not well.
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He was destined to be crucified.
Bad things happen to bad people.

Jesus was insulting everyone, so people killed him.
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He was destined to be crucified.
Bad things happen to bad people.

Jesus was insulting everyone, so people killed him.
The part that is difficult to believe is how he became God after his crucifixion.
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The part that is difficult to believe is how he became God after his crucifixion.
God can be a convicted criminal, I guess.
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The part that is difficult to believe is how he became God after his crucifixion.
God can be a convicted criminal, I guess.
That would be blasphemy.
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That would be blasphemy.
Well, yeah. It would mean good things happen to bad people who are Gods.
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That would be blasphemy.
Well, yeah. It would mean good things happen to bad people who are Gods.
Nothing good happened to Jesus. Jesus was crucified.
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Nothing good happened to Jesus. Jesus was crucified.
He became God. Thats really awesome.

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Nothing good happened to Jesus. Jesus was crucified.
He became God. Thats really awesome.
Jesus claimed he was God. That is why the Jews crucified him for blasphemy.
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Jesus claimed he was God. That is why the Jews crucified him for blasphemy.
If he was God, how come he is the one that got nailed?

Wouldnt God have power to destroy people who try to nail him?
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Jesus claimed he was God. That is why the Jews crucified him for blasphemy.
If he was God, how come he is the one that got nailed?

Wouldnt God have power to destroy people who try to nail him?
That is why Jesus lamented on the cross.
Matthew 27:46
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” 



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“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Thats a weird choice of words given that he said he is God.

Maybe he lost his God powers and people took the opportunity to nail him.
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“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Thats a weird choice of words given that he said he is God.

Maybe he lost his God powers and people took the opportunity to nail him
Your mind works like a Christian believer.
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The current bible has no reference to reincarnation because it was removed but there are some hints that lead us to think that reincarnation was a Christian doctrine at the beginning. "Now the Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” John 1, 24-25. In that verse, Elijah had already long died but the Pharisees asked if John the Baptist was him. It's not a direct reference to reincarnation but I think we all understand what the pharisees tried to say.
This is not support for reincarnation. 

The Pharisees are asking John the Baptist, "Why are you baptizing people as if you are Elijah?"
"Why are you acting as if you are Elijah?"

They are saying that he's acting like their understanding of who Elijah is, not that John is a direct reincarnation. 
The Pharisees ask this because they think he is a fake, not that he is some legit, future revision of Elijah. 

Similar action between two people does not denote reincarnation of one to the other. 

I can go out and act like Ted Bundy. 
How does that mean I am the reincarnation of Ted Bundy? 

This Bible passage is truly to showcase that the Pharisees, as is the norm, misunderstand the will of God, and they do not know how to make sense of the actions of those that serve Him.  

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This Bible passage is truly to showcase that the Pharisees, as is the norm, misunderstand the will of God, and they do not know how to make sense of the actions of those that serve Him.  
They certainly did not believe in reincarnation or life after death.
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Unless you are being picky about who gets reincarnated.

Then I think, that statistically reincarnation is regarded as unlikely.

Because currently, the birth to death ratio favours birth.


In simple terms, if one person dies and two people are born, then only one can be a reincarnation.

Even so... If it were the other way around, not only would we become extinct, but there would always be a backlog of potential reincarnatees.

For it to work fairly, whereby everyone gets reincarnated, it would always have to be a one to one ratio.


Unless you are also factoring critters into the reincarnation equation, whereby we occasionally have a spell as a Tsetse fly or something.

Not sure how this works statistically though.


Nonetheless, I would suggest that like an afterlife, reincarnation is the wishful thinking of a mortal blob of matter.


Which certainly isn't to suggest that our component parts cannot be recycled.



And then there are gametes to consider.

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Not sure how this works statistically though.
As I said, I wish I knew more about it. I only have a broad idea of reincarnation and it seems to be an important mechanism for the evolution of species. I'm sure about it because of the many cases researched by scientists. We can't say it's coincidence because it's about thousands of cases from children that give specific details about lives of other people already dead. There are scientific papers discussing this that you can read if you are so reluctant to accept it.

Nonetheless, I would suggest that like an afterlife, reincarnation is the wishful thinking of a mortal blob of matter.
Reincarnation has been the main belief of many ancient civilizations and it's also related to the ancient "gods", which means it's related to the UFO phenomenon or aliens.

Something that I didn't mention is that aliens can seemingly manipulate these "souls", this is evident because they created us. So, according to the aliens, they transport and place "souls" among the planets they have in charge. For example, I heard that Jesus, also known as the Christ, was a "soul" brought from another planet, same with Mary, the virgin. Apparently these "souls" are as conscious as a living person because they accepted to be displaced.

There are many things that need to be discovered and I'm really looking forward to it.