For example, I heard that Jesus, also known as the Christ, was a "soul" brought from another planet, same with Mary, the virgin. Apparently these "souls" are as conscious as a living person because they accepted to be displaced.There are many things that need to be discovered and I'm really looking forward to it.
For example, I heard that Jesus, also known as the Christ, was a "soul" brought from another planet, same with Mary, the virgin. Apparently these "souls" are as conscious as a living person because they accepted to be displaced.There are many things that need to be discovered and I'm really looking forward to it.You are distorting the Bible with your alien theory.
You are distorting the Bible with your alien theory.
Now.Is this knowledge?Or wild speculation.
Several contactees talk about it as a technology that allows the evolution by experience.
You are distorting the Bible with your alien theory.I don't care what the bible says. I'm just communicating what the contactees (the new prophets) say.
The Bible has not been updated in over 2000 years. No new contactees have been reported.
Maybe one day we will be able to down load our conscious minds to an electronic device. And live for ever on line.
Maybe one day we will be able to down load our conscious minds to an electronic device. And live for ever on line.I wish I could download my conscious mind in a reality where I'm the king and have a harem of 30 ladies all for me and have sex all day long, one per day, non stop, forever and ever. Amen.Lol.
You can still do it. 44.5 % of the population are available.
You can still do it. 44.5 % of the population are available.Being atheist or agnostic doesn't mean being inmoral. Even in ancient greek people had moral.I would never desire a harem but for a dream it's totally acceptable.
He has 44.5% of the population to pick his harem of 30 ladies.
This is similar to the UFO phenomenon. The Roman Empire translated and changed the meaning of the original bible in order to keep people from knowing the real facts, like the reincarnation. Most first christian sects believed in reincarnation, though nowadays Christians believe that human beings have only one life after which their "souls" are sent either to hell or heaven, according to their deeds and the judgement of a "god". Nevertheless, the bible and the science contradict such Christian belief.
The current bible has no reference to reincarnation because it was removed but there are some hints that lead us to think that reincarnation was a Christian doctrine at the beginning. "Now the Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” John 1, 24-25. In that verse, Elijah had already long died but the Pharisees asked if John the Baptist was him. It's not a direct reference to reincarnation but I think we all understand what the pharisees tried to say.
Also, the science has been researching this phenomenon. There are thousands of cases about reincarnation, one of them even adapted into a movie, "Yesterday's children". I wish I knew more how reincarnation works but at least I can make out several things about it from the many readings I had and also from my observations. From what I understand, what religions call "soul" is actually a sort of technology that resembles an AI. The "soul", as well as the AI, needs experience in order to learn and thus to evolve, that's why the soul incarnates in this life or reality, in order to find the experience it needs to evolve. As it is evident, the soul needs a lot of incarnations because a 60 year life in average is not enough (courtesy of the aliens). The evolution process is still ongoing so we are not going to hell or heaven after death as Christianity claims, we'll keep incarnating and evolving until our bodies get enough long-lived to stop the incarnation process.
Reincarnation can explain several things about us. For example, children that are gifted with something like music, maths, arts, etc. Science can't explain it. You'll be asking why we don't remember our past lives, well we actually can but we need to get hypnotized because those memories are in the unconsciousness. There are several things about it that make a lot of sense so I think reincarnation is real and is part of the human being nature. We need to be open minded and keep researching in order to find the truth (although the fucking aliens will bring the truth anyway).
The current bible has no reference to reincarnation because it was removed but there are some hints that lead us to think that reincarnation was a Christian doctrine at the beginning. "Now the Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” John 1, 24-25. In that verse, Elijah had already long died but the Pharisees asked if John the Baptist was him. It's not a direct reference to reincarnation but I think we all understand what the pharisees tried to say.
Yeah, you must be afraid of what it's coming the next years. The UFO phenomenon is already a fact, people all around the world are more convinced about it given the clear evidence such photos, videos, testimonies and so on. There will be a declassification of all the alien files that the US have so I recommend you to be prepared, it's not going to be easy for you and your acolytes.
On the other hand, I've got to admit that the reincarnation phenomenon is more difficult to swallow for the people, let alone for the believers. I'm not going to insist on that, then. The only thing I'm going to say is that reincarnation is more suitable for Christianity because all "the souls" have the opportunity to learn and evolve, so noone is left behind, everyone moves forward. This situation coincides with the concept of the "loving god" of Christianity. I mean, what kind of "loving god" sends people to burn in hell for eternity? That's not loving at all. You see the contradiction?
Love can also be defined biblically as one who obeys the commandments of God. If that is a reasonable definition, then God showing justice to the wicked is actually love. Whereas if he just let them do whatever they want without regard to how they hurt, then that would not be love. Hence, I don't see a contradiction, on a number of levels.
Tell you what. When it ACTUALLY happens, then let's discuss it. Now, there is just speculation and lots of people believe in speculation as though it is true. Gee go to any of the thousands of dispensational churches in America and ask them about the rapture. They'll all tell you it's going to happen any day now and they believe it - even though the Bible doesn't. The church has been saying "it's the end of the world" for millennia. Me, I like to see the actual evidence and so-called facts. The same applies to the JFK assassination. Rumours and speculation and rabbit holes.
Well let's disagree about the suitability of it for Christianity. I think it is hard to swallow because it implies lots of things that are incompatible with facts and logic. But it is also difficult to reconcile with the story of Christianity. It would make a mockery for a start of Christ's purpose to die on the cross. And certainly it would remove the need for the resurrection, which the Church requires as an essential doctrine. Not to mention the story of the Transfiguration which I showed above refutes completely reincarnation. I think rather than focusing on a loving God. After all, I can't think of any occasion in the NT when any of the disciples or apostles tried to evangelise by saying - God loves you. I think the primary focuse is on holiness. The angels - never said God is love is love is love. No, they said God is holy holy holy.What kind of a just and holy God would let evil run rampant for ever? Why would a just God not punish the wicked? I see the love of God as part of the Holiness of God.For me, a judge in our world demonstrates love to the victims of the family that has been murdered by sending them to prison for the rest of their life. He doesn't show love to the murderer. He does show justice though. I think we can properly make the same leap to God as judge. He shows love to the righteous by sending the wicked to Hell. He shows justice to the wicked by sending them to Hell.Love can also be defined biblically as one who obeys the commandments of God. If that is a reasonable definition, then God showing justice to the wicked is actually love. Whereas if he just let them do whatever they want without regard to how they hurt, then that would not be love. Hence, I don't see a contradiction, on a number of levels.
As far as I'm concerned, all the Christians that I met have always remarked that God is love, it's like a slogan of christianity all over the world. Justice and holiness is like secondary. As a matter of fact, I never heard about it in my debates with these zealots, everything was about love and compassion.
When did sacrificing your son to be crucified become an act of love? Or sending famines, droughts, earthquakes and diseases to punish people be seen as acts of love?
When did sacrificing your son to be crucified become an act of love? Or sending famines, droughts, earthquakes and diseases to punish people be seen as acts of love?Y3s, Shirley, th!s is a contr@d!ction of Chr!st!@ns. I'm not dis@greeing w!th u.
Love can also be defined biblically as one who obeys the commandments of God. If that is a reasonable definition, then God showing justice to the wicked is actually love. Whereas if he just let them do whatever they want without regard to how they hurt, then that would not be love. Hence, I don't see a contradiction, on a number of levels.How is it love to sacrifice your son for the sins of others?
Jesus like many people in this world would sacrifice himself for the sake of others. That too is a demonstration of love. He didn't have to hold himself back. The fact that Jesus was prepared to die not just for his friends and family but also for his enemies demonstrates something more profound than love too. Doesn't it? IT demonstrates supreme integrity, grace and generosity, let alone kindness and mercy.
Tell you what. When it ACTUALLY happens, then let's discuss it. Now, there is just speculation and lots of people believe in speculation as though it is true. Gee go to any of the thousands of dispensational churches in America and ask them about the rapture. They'll all tell you it's going to happen any day now and they believe it - even though the Bible doesn't. The church has been saying "it's the end of the world" for millennia. Me, I like to see the actual evidence and so-called facts. The same applies to the JFK assassination. Rumours and speculation and rabbit holes.Well, at least you're open to it. Keep it up, when the time comes you won't be caught with your pants down.
It depends on what kind of Christian church you're subscribed.As far as I'm concerned, all the Christians that I met have always remarked that God is love, it's like a slogan of christianity all over the world. Justice and holiness is like secondary. As a matter of fact, I never heard about it in my debates with these zealots, everything was about love and compassion.Maybe you're interpreting it from the standpoint of a person that hates to be challenged, a person that wants the religous dissidents to be punished as painful as possible, a zealot who only cares about himself. In that case, sure, every non christian should burn in hell mercilessly.
No one asked Jesus to sacrifice himself for the sake of others.
Human sacrifice was not part of the commandments from God.In Jeremiah 19:4-6, Gd tells us that human sacrifice is so horrible a concept to Him, that it did not even come into His mind to demand it from His creation.
It was not a known practice to allow someone to die for the sins of others.Even the disciples did not know why Jesus had to die.
Why was Jesus' death hidden from the disciples?The disciples failed to comprehend Jesus' explicit and repeated predictions of his coming crucifixion and resurrection because, even while he was revealing it to them, it was being “hidden from them” by the Lord Himself. And only the Lord could remove that incomprehension — which is exactly what Luke says happened.
All SACRIFICED animals had to be slaughtered by a priest, at the Temple (and prior to that, at the sanctuary), and that animal was treated differently - parts were burnt, parts went to the priests and levites, and the rest was returned to whoever brought it.
The Bible tells us Jesus was crucified for blasphemy. He was put on trial for his own sins and found guilty. Jesus was not sacrificed in the temple. He was crucified in a public area. The crucifixion was not performed by priests. The Roman guards then crucified Jesus.
John 19:23 23 When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.Is Jesus' death a human sacrifice?In response, God didn't sacrifice Jesus. Rather, Jesus gave up his own life. No one forced Him. He laid down His life willingly, as He made clear speaking about His life: “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. Jesus admits he took his own life even though he was crucified for blasphemy and sedition.If Jesus claimed that only dead Jews could forgive sins using himself as an example. Then the Holocaust was totally justified. The world needed more Jews sacrificed for the growing population of Christian sinners.
People have been waiting for these things forever and ad finitum. I don't intend to spend my time waiting for something that just happens to be in someone elses head or delusion. I have enough delusions of my own. (I can't wait to see how that is used against me, not by you, of course) I haven't seen any compelling evidence for the existence of intelligent life on other planets. We've all seen the videos of the US fighter pilots. But not understanding what something is - doesn't mean we have to fill in the gaps and say - It must be alien. I don't do that about God, I don't believe in the idea of filling in the gaps. I'll leave that people who need to be able to explain everything. I like explanations by the way, but not speculative ones. Not that I don't find them interesting and intriguing, but you can't build your life on such things.
Perhaps that's true. There are many churches which highlight as the primary thing that God is love. Certainly I have come across many who think that. Yet most of these churches, also think that God will send someone to Hell if they don't trust Jesus as God. Not all of them. There are quite a few churches who don't believe in Hell or punishment. Some think that everyone goes to heaven. Good bad or indifferent. Certainly, God is love. I wouldn't say otherwise.But I would also note that within Reformed Churches, and that's the type I attend at, that it is the holiness of God that is his primary attribute. And that love of God is always consistent with that. Perhaps since you've never heard a different perspective, you should broaden your discussons. The Reformed are plenty afield. I'm sure you've heard of John McArthur. John Piper. Wayne Grudem. The Red Pen crew. It actually surprises me that your perspective is so narrow in relation to Christians. From your comments, I would have take the view that you had come across most types. The Reformed View in America is huge. Still, that doesn't matter. There is still time for you to investigate if you choose.
