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@Best.Korea
I know, don't you think he can afford an iPhone?
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@rosends
it is so inconvenient so as to change entire societies without driving anyone away with absolutes that would not be observed
So an all powerful God cant even ban slavery properly, but he can ban men from wearing women's clothes and even have death penalty for it.
This is very funny. Please continue.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
He never did, he doesn't exist, what has changed now is people now have considerable powers of investigation and the bias against skeptics in the historical record has evaporated
Back then you could make up any story and people would believe it. There were thousands of important people in history who claimed to have seen God and even talked to God and they all made contradictory claims each describing God differently.
And we are supposed to believe in all claims made by people 2000 years ago?
Thats circular logic.
If the proof for claim is just some person saying that claim, then their standard of proof is really low.
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@Owen_T
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (NIV):When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife.And of course, these people are going to go to heaven. They got permission from god to do these things, whereas atheists completely deserve eternal torment for keeping an open mind. - Owen_T #1
Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails
and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.
If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her."
What is there to explain?
'Does the Bible say atheists will or deserve eternal torment for keeping an open mind?
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@Lemming
Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nailsand put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her."What is there to explain?'Does the Bible say atheists will or deserve eternal torment for keeping an open mind?
That is how women should be treated by all men regardless of religious beliefs.
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@Shila
Is that what the scripture teach? God is cruel because he gave his only begotten son?
Is kindness the opposite of cruelty?
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@Mall
Is that what the scripture teach? God is cruel because he gave his only begotten son?Is kindness the opposite of cruelty?
When God was asked to show his glory, he showed the Jews his backside.
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”
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@Stephen
Well, if it's been 1000 years since his last visit, he will be in for a surprise.
Things will have changed a bit.
Do you think he has a smartphone?
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@FLRW
Yep, sure put the wind up Moses.
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@Shila
Answer those questions for me.
When God was asked to show his glory, he showed the Jews his backside.
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”
Answer those questions for me.
That is why the Jews are still looking for a prophet because all they have is God’s words spoken through his backside and not face to face.
Everybody here is trying to make sense to these twisted laws, but what you are not taking into consideration is that this law is contradicting the major jewish law which is "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth".
So, anyone should expect the criminal to get what he deserves which is being sodomized by a BBC. Wouldn't it be the best punishment for that fkn criminal using the jewish law?
Remember that this jewish law regarding rape is still in use by the goatfuckers (read it as muslims) and I don't see anyone in the west making excuses for such a horrible custom.
Come on, people. Let's not make childish excuses like "these were other times" or "it was the best solution" because in ancient Egypt rape was punished by death and the jews knew it pretty well.
So, anyone should expect the criminal to get what he deserves which is being sodomized by a BBC. Wouldn't it be the best punishment for that fkn criminal using the jewish law?
Remember that this jewish law regarding rape is still in use by the goatfuckers (read it as muslims) and I don't see anyone in the west making excuses for such a horrible custom.
Come on, people. Let's not make childish excuses like "these were other times" or "it was the best solution" because in ancient Egypt rape was punished by death and the jews knew it pretty well.
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@IlDiavolo
So, anyone should expect the criminal to get what he deserves which is being sodomized by a BBC.
So the television license fee? That's dark.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So the television license fee? That's dark.
Very funny.
You know what I mean by BBC, dont you? I guess you do.
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@IlDiavolo
I didn't before you forced me to look it up just now. The cocks I look up are mostly red, don't really have a race fetish.
I know you were just making a point but I don't think sexual assault is an appropriate punishment by a civilized people. If you think they're that bad just kill them and be done with it.
Besides, the rapist may like it; or at least like it a lot more than their victim did.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Well, blacks are known for having enormous dicks so it's a good reference. I once heard that the the black's dick is like a toddler's arm holding an apple.
Besides, I'm basically saying that considering the law of talion the most suitable punishment for the rapist is to be sodomized.
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@IlDiavolo
Matthew 5:38 to Matthew 5:48
“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’
But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
(38) An eye for an eye.--Here again the scribes first took their stand on the letter, regardless of the aim and purpose, of the Law, and then expanded it in a wrong direction. As originally given, it was a check on the "wild justice" of revenge. It said, where the equilibrium of right had been disturbed by outrage, that the work of the judge was not to do more than restore the equilibrium, unless, as in the case of theft, some further penalty was necessary for the prevention of crime. It was, in its essence, a limit in both directions. Not less than the "eye for an eye," for that might lead to connivance in guilt; not more, for that would open a fresh score of wrong. The scribes in their popular casuistry made the rule one not of judicial action only, but of private retaliation; and it was thus made the sanction of the vindictive temper that forgives nothing.
But I tell you
This phrase marks a significant transition in Jesus' teaching, contrasting His message with traditional interpretations of the Law. The Greek word for "tell" is "λέγω" (legō), which implies a declaration of truth with authority. Jesus, as the divine Logos, speaks with the ultimate authority, offering a new understanding that fulfills and transcends the old covenant. This authoritative teaching is a hallmark of His ministry, emphasizing His role as the ultimate interpreter of God's will.
Why should the direction of forgiveness, kindness be wrong?
Penguin Classics Tao Te Ching
XLIX
110 The sage has no mind of his own. He takes as his own the
mind of the people.
111 Those who are good I treat as good. Those who are not
good I also treat as good. In doing so I gain in goodness.
Those who are of good faith I have faith in. Those who are
lacking in good faith I also have faith in. In doing so I gain
in good faith.
112 The sage in his attempt to distract the mind of the empire
seeks urgently to muddle it. The people all have something
to occupy their eyes and ears, and the sage treats them all
like children.
Do you have a source for the Ancient Egyptian Law?
"In ancient Egypt, rape was punishable by death. And if the offender was a foreigner, he might be lucky enough to be exiled. Men who were guilty of rape were often castrated. During Ottoman rule, rape was a common occurrence in the lands governed by the Ottoman sultans, which for a long time included Egypt, but it was criminalized under both Sharia law and the laws of the sultanate."
This site says it was punishable by death, but then gives two exceptions,
Ancient Egypt 'sounds a large time frame of many laws,
Laws often more complicated than they might seem at first glance.
I don't think it helps you convince people when you insult others.
. . .
I don't think people are 'wrong to look at the Bible and have questions,
Nor do I think people are wrong to think on, search for, or suggest answers.
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@Lemming
I don't think it helps you convince people when you insult others.
I didn't intend to insult anyone.
If you refer to the muslims, you've got to know they have the bad habit of having sex with animals.
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@IlDiavolo
Various rural cultures have individuals who have practiced bestiality, doesn't mean it's the cultures 'norm or encouraged value.
I admit I don't know much about Islam or the Middle East,
"According to hadith, bestiality is defined under zina and its punishment is execution of the accused man or woman along with the animal.[3][10]"
But that doesn't 'sound like they encourage it.
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@IlDiavolo
Well, blacks are known for having enormous dicks so it's a good reference. I once heard that the the black's dick is like a toddler's arm holding an apple.
I have not observed this.
Besides, I'm basically saying that considering the law of talion the most suitable punishment for the rapist is to be sodomized.
If somebody really hates grapefruit and is force fed grapefruit but the guy who did the force feeding loves grapefruit it's not really an eye for an eye.
Nobody wants their eyes gouged out. Some people like to be sodomized, and if those people are clever they will pretend to not want to be sodomized so their punishment isn't worse.
Would you look at how off topic we are. Isn't this fun? Can we insert aliens into this? They like sticking things up butts right?
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@IlDiavolo
I don't think it helps you convince people when you insult others.I didn't intend to insult anyone.If you refer to the muslims, you've got to know they have the bad habit of having sex with animals.
Hard to see that as true. How do they go to their 4 wives after sleeping with animals.
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@IlDiavolo
@Lemming
If you refer to the muslims, you've got to know they have the bad habit of having sex with animals.
They have a bad habit of throwing homosexuals off buildings, killing their female family members over premarital sex, and constantly trying to take over the world violently.
Having some fun with the goats is the least of their sins.
Hadith isn't scripture, there have been contradictory fatwas
Basically about 500 years ago they really hated anal sex in the middle east, probably something about not being able to clean yourself because of lack of water. So it was like "If it's between your mare and your male slave, choose the mare", and other ones which were like "if you masturbate or have sex with a female animal you can't go to prayer loser"
and the rules were completely different for women. Women's job was to be totally celibate without even masturbation until somebody decided to start making babies with her. They always kill the woman for bestiality.
This is remembering from the last time I looked into it, could be remembering improperly but it isn't easy to find. Obviously modern imams and 'scholars' try to hide the embarrassing stuff and put the more palatable takes in front.
Basically about 500 years ago they really hated anal sex in the middle east, probably something about not being able to clean yourself because of lack of water. So it was like "If it's between your mare and your male slave, choose the mare", and other ones which were like "if you masturbate or have sex with a female animal you can't go to prayer loser"
Things changed when Muslims were commanded to pray 5 times a day.
This is what they saw daily.
Here you have to go to the people trying to hate on Islam to find these fatwas:
(Hindus were definitely more permissive of bestiality than Muslims, it's hilarious and sad that they're all busy fighting each other over who didn't do it when they both did)
That's progress for you: Stop eating pigs, stop having sex with sheep, only beat your slaves on friday, start killing your neighbors because they hate god
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@ADreamOfLiberty
(Hindus were definitely more permissive of bestiality than Muslims, it's hilarious and sad that they're all busy fighting each other over who didn't do it when they both did)That's progress for you: Stop eating pigs, stop having sex with sheep, only beat your slaves on friday, start killing your neighbors because they hate god
The fact that beastiality is mentioned in the Bible and condemns it proves the Jews were guilty of beastiality.
The Bible mentions bestiality in four different passages. Exodus 22:19 says, “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.” Leviticus 18:23 declares, “Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.” Leviticus 20:15-16 commands, “If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” Deuteronomy 27:21 agrees, “Cursed is the man who has sexual relations with any animal.” From these verses, it is abundantly clear that, according to the Bible, bestiality is a horrible, unnatural, and abominable sin.
In Hinduism, animals contain a soul just like humans; when sentient beings die, they can either be reincarnated as a human or as an animal. These beliefs have resulted in many Hindus practicing vegetarianism, while Jain doctrine mandates vegetarianism based on its strict interpretation of the doctrine of ahimsa.
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@Shila
Every population has homosexuals and zoosexuals, it's an an endemic deviance and understandably a common one given how much time humans spend thinking about other animals as people.The fact that beastiality is mentioned in the Bible and condemns it proves the Jews were guilty of beastiality.
Of course jews did bestiality, everybody did bestiality; everybody (as in some people in every nation and religion) still does bestiality.
I mean hindus used to tolerate it and islam used to be on the fence.
The philistines (a phoenician type civilization) probably had no problem with it (they also sacrificed children to their false gods), and the eygptians likely had no problem with it either, even incorporating it into more than one sacred myth.
Greeks probably had more of a problem with it but would have seemed tolerant by today's standards.
Hebrews loved to contrast themselves with the idolaters and probably were keen on picking bestiality as a uniquely idolater thing to do (and then pretending god told them to stop).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Would you look at how off topic we are. Isn't this fun? Can we insert aliens into this? They like sticking things up butts right?
If you want to talk about aliens, no problem. It's a good topic now that are more UFO sightings and that authorities are more concerned about it.
Don't be so boring, man. Just have fun.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Nobody wants their eyes gouged out. Some people like to be sodomized, and if those people are clever they will pretend to not want to be sodomized so their punishment isn't worse.
Are you a lawyer or something like that? I don’t want to discuss about the effectivity of the law of talion. I'm just saying that the jewish law is, broadly speaking, contradictory and inmensely misogynistic.
One good thing about it is.
It gets the rapist going around to the father of the victum house
Sooooo
Picture this filthy rapiest popping up on your doorstep saying.
Sir.
He goes , sir.
Excuse me please
He then goes on to fully apologies, and explains himself.
He goes . At 3.18 pm today I raped your daughter.
HOWEVER.
He says.
I am here kind Sir to ummm, reumburst if you will.
Then you and this guy that raped ya daught not even 8 hours ago start ummm, heckling.
Picture the father of the victim straight up saying.
Its gonna be $500US AT THE LEAST.
He knows his daughter is sexy as
The Rapist fires back.
$250.
The father of the rapist smiles at him and says.,
Five hundred no less.
The bloke that raped your daughter , says $325
Still not happy, the father of this girl that was rapped
Gos .
$450.
At the very least.
More back and forth.
You put on A masterclass of hecklinv
Until BOTH COME TO AN AGREEMENT
You settle for $382. 70.
Wich is good
Its a good outcome as most rapist these days have no morals at all ,
Its good to offer Any financial aid what so ever.
If true intelligence involves the ability to view andunderstanding widely different things from multiple different perspectives, anaptitude for grasping a wide range of truths, relationships, and meanings, andthe capacity for abstract and symbolic thought, then it follows logically thatthe contention that one can reduce reality to only one of its modes, to deny that other ways of knowing and interpreting, to claim to know itin only one of its forms, is an unintelligent claim.
Science does not contend that reality can be reduced to asingle ontological level, on the contrary, science asserts that reality is infact, multileveled, it asserts that the four dimensions of existence that wecall reality, are contingent and relative to a greater reality of moredimensions, of which we cannot have certain knowledge, and which can only beexpressed metaphorically.