Polytheist-Witch

Or one doesn't see a reason to waste time going in circles. 

Well now we've  found out that the average user has to have their account banned and start a new account to do a name change but the mods are allowed to do it at will must be nice.

I was on topic if you don't like being called out on your bigotry don't post it.

And neither the person you address there is a Christian dummy, reinforce your bigotry again.

You know what if you don't understand the questions that are being asked then maybe you shouldn't practice the religion you're in.

You're viewing a creator or a supreme being or more accurately with some people use in spiritual circles is infinite intelligence as something superior to humans. Well obviously the creative force of the universe is more than humans are in some way shape or form I don't believe we're bugs to that being. If anything were cells in that being's "body". Do you think about what your cells are doing all the time? No. If your cells aren't functioning properly would you notice? More than likely they would show themselves in some way. I believe when we die and return to just spirit if we were working improperly while in our meat suit then there are things that have to be done to correct our functioning before we go back to being part of that infinite being. No idea if that makes any sense to anybody but that is how I look at it. People get so hung up on human beings on Earth when it comes to religious conversation because that's ego. But the infinite part of us the part that lives forever is Spirit so we are spiritual beings having a human experience not a human being having a spiritual experience. When we look at ourselves as just human beings and for leave out the spirit part it makes it easy to reduce the Creator down to just some guy in the sky. Not that I don't believe that all the gods exist I do I just believe that they're part of that one creative source that everything comes from. For these reasons I view the Creator as amoral. Gods and goddesses on the other hand makes s*** choices as much as we do, many of them are immoral. Again that's based on human standard.

Not true.

So you believe Jesus is a stand alone entity and that father in the Father, Son, Holy Spirit Trinity thing doesn't exist.

I think to be basic pizza there needs to be the crust, a sauce of some kind though I feel classic tomato should really be the only one that counts. Then cheese. While pepperoni is a staple topping I don't believe you have to have pepperoni on a pizza for it to be pizza.

Well  that would be an interesting social experiment.

Do you even understand the background of Christianity or the Old Testament where it comes from because obviously you don't. 

Fire insurance.

All sin is is a crime against your God. If you don't worship that God you cannot sin. The Jews didn't feel that their God's rules apply to anyone but them I have no idea why Christians think they do, wait maybe it's because Christians basically tried to steal that God from the Jews.

I basically just explained it. Anyone that isn't a Christian is automatically immoral even if they're more moral than a Christian simply because they don't worship your God. And somehow your God gets to decide what happens to every single person in the afterlife even the ones that don't worship him and if you're the most moral person on the planet more moral than seven or eight different Christians you go to hell but the Christians well they get a pass if they play their cards right. Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds to say to someone that's exactly the same as you but the only difference is you worship Jesus that they're going to hell because they're evil. 

The problem is according to God not worshiping him makes you evil. That is complete bull crap. I know plenty of moral non-Christians and I know plenty of immoral Christians. The system the way that Christians think it works is broken the only reason they support it is it benefits them no matter what they do.

I guess it could depend on context.   https://youtu.be/Z6d_7NV17Bc

Are you a muppet?

Predators hide themselves very well till they get caught.  In any place kids are. There are teachers, cops, priest, coaches, even daycares I'm sure. Without being able to predict who's going to commit a crime there's not much you can do about that. The fact is the point to school is for children to interact with a diverse group of people to learn to be courteous human beings to work as a group to make society better. Teachers are trained to teach kids. While I have made every effort to learn what my special needs child needs I am not a master's level special education teacher. My child has access to at least two of them plus bachelors level special education teachers plus special ed certified aides including the gym coach. You have every right not to send your child to public school and homeschool them you do not have a right to tell me my child should not have access to train teachers because you don't like some of the agenda in schools.

If your personal stance is you object to Russia invading Ukraine and that every Russian is therefore responsible for it then you can leave the site. China commits a Tri-Cities all the time if you watch TV you're supporting China or pretty much buy anything at this point. Have you renounced your American citizenship and become Canadian or a citizen of some other country he feels more moral in the United States. I mean we're not necessarily adding money to the Russian war machine by posting here.

I've gone back through and read some previous post in this thread and I cannot for the life of me remember why I posted this. I just cannot find the context that I brought it up for now. I'm completely thrown off track by it LOL. I'm sure it made sense to me at the time but thanks for your response.

What I don't get is if God is the God of the Jews, and he managed to kill everyone but a couple of Jewish people with the flood, where did all the non-jewish people come from and why. And why did he even bother to let that happen or how could it have possibly happened. 

I'm so sick and tired of every bigot atheist basically saying every theist is out to deceive every single other person on the planet. It is complete b******* and an utter lie. I do not witness because my religion does not call for it and I don't think any of the gods need me to. But if someone asked me questions and I tell them answers to those questions it does not mean I'm trying to deceive them. I am telling them what I think feel and have experienced. If you feel you're being deceived that's you on your end and not mine. That's how you feel you shouldn't even be in this forum talking to any of us.

I think anyone being allowed to have more than one account for any reason is complete and utter bull shit. Especially when someone you don't like has an account that you don't know is them and they try to be nice to you with that account to get information out of you.

If the cat considers the infant part of its family for lack of a better word than it would view that person as same as a kitten so yes I would call that instinctual. Maybe intelligent but instinctual. I do not necessarily think someone feeding a starving kitten is as much a moral act it's just the act of wanting to relieve suffering which I think is instinctual that might also be moral but I think the act of reducing suffering is instinctual. Perhaps there's an overlap that's more nuanced than I'm giving a credit for. But I don't necessarily think the examples you're given reflect morality explicitly and not some instinct. I think someone gave an example of children being raised by animals if a child was raised by wolves then that child would naturally want to take care of the small wolves in the pack because it's family just like the cat in the above example I don't think that would be morals it would be instinct because animals don't have morals.

I don't know anyone that calls animals good or bad unless they're discussing a family pet that isn't responding to training. Nobody sits around thinking about oh rabbits are bad cuz they don't want foxes to eat them or foxes are bad because they eat rabbits we call that nature we call that instinct. I really think you're confusing morals with instinct they are nowhere near the same thing.

It doesn't translate like that in animals. Nobody calls animals immoral. If anything your confusing morals with instinct or gut reaction.

What does that have to do with morals? 

He's an atheist that uses a "Christian" persona to get away with trolling.

You know what no one said nothing matters to me especially me so just pissed off if you don't want to have a conversation.

That's because nine times out of ten the goal isn't for them to get a job it's for them to go to college. The kids in the vocational programs usually end up in a job while they're still in school and have jobs when they graduate. I'll agree the model doesn't work and it certainly doesn't work across broad communities need to be able to adapt their programs to their students and their area. The problem is is once you get Federal money is involved the school system does what it can to get the most federal money instead of really educating the kids the best way possible. The problem with schools is we've allowed it to come a business like every other government agency. I do not think the alternative is to let everybody home school their children. 

It makes sense to me I don't know that I'm conveying it properly to you. 

I don't believe in a god of punishment. I don't believe that there's a hell. That's probably why I don't believe in the long run that the universal moral principles technically sort of matter. Don't matter to me personally and they obviously matter to you personally but for people they don't matter to that puts them in some sort of ranking system on the other side but there's always the potential to work back up. I don't know if that makes any sense but.

I think the basic answer to your question is no because if you go read any of Brother Thomas or Stephens posts in the religion forum that are directed at Tradesecret you'll see that they are constantly harassing him and nothing's done because Tradesecret says nothing. Which is why it's really a matter of who's doing the harassing.

Societies are inconsistent and some things are sometimes acceptable by societies and sometimes they're not.  I certainly think there are universal concepts that should be considered evil but I'm one person the trouble is getting everyone else to agree to those and sometimes they're just not going to. A good example for instance would be say something like circumcision. Most people would agree that female circumcision completely impairs a woman from ever having normal sex again and therefore is bad. About half the people would say that male circumcision is altering male genitalia when they're a baby and that's bad. I certainly consider one to be a heinous crime that completely restricts someone's sexual enjoyment and the other one I I feel as a religious practice that doesn't hinder a man from enjoying sex. So that's the problem you run into there's certainly people that would argue with me that both are wrong and then I'm an a****** for thinking circumcision should be allowed for men and not for women. They're certainly cultures that would argue that it's okay to do the women because women are second class or because it's their religious practice. And that's the problem you run into within morality depending on where is society's at they may find it something immoral that another society doesn't. In the US there's even smaller groups of people that might consider something appropriate where another group might not. The United States has decided that one of the main ways they determine what's right and wrong are rights. 

Society's tend to do that.

Also parents create their children basically and our children constantly do things that aren't in alignment with us. So to say because God is a creator ( though I think gods and  the Creator are two things) but basically everything that happens is within their wishes isn't exactly accurate. 

Homeschooling does not always produce better results.

No. Almost any story involving the gods shows some of them to be immoral. The creator of all things is amoral. 

You are probably the most anti-American person that posts here. You should seriously become a monk and go live in a monastery where you can be happy.

Oh honey I've interact with kids that have been home school trust me they're illiterate heathens too. Every now and then you get a jam that knows what they're doing but that is few and far between.

If you want to live in a town with a bunch of illiterate heathens that's on you I don't mind paying for kids to at least get some basic education.

Where the problem lies is for some reason atheists think that religion should be debated via science even though religion has nothing to do with science. Myth is not fact plain and simple, that doesn't mean it's not true. Religion is an emotional based experience therefore it falls under the realm of other emotional experiences or like relationships with other people. If you say you love your wife nobody's going to tell you to produce scientific evidence that you love your wife. If you say you believe in gods no one's going to present scientific evidence that you believe in gods because it's a relationship with a being whether somebody thinks that being exists or not. And just like a relationship where dating eventually leads to you coming to a knowledge of how that other person feels about you, beginning to engage in a religious or spiritual practice eventually will lead you to either disengage from that practice or reach a point where you feel the gods exist. And just like when someone says I love my wife because other people have experienced that they accept that as enough so just like if someone were to say I believe in gods I accept that because I myself have experienced that. I'm not sure why one is acceptable and one isn't other than atheist simply don't believe that there is somebody else on the other end of that relationship. But for the believer or the practitioner they have full faith in that other being.

Wouldn't it be more important the study the brains of stupid human beings that continue to relax and enjoy themselves around animals that can f****** kill them.

I can't believe a public domain picture for your profile pic which is the same as someone else's is harassment, but actual harassment isn't.

The guy put the same thing in three different posts that are actively going on in this section and in another section.I think his intention was to derail our conversation,  if you have a problem with it that's fine but I didn't ask the person be banned or that the moderators get involved. I asked who told him to come and disrupt the conversation because I feel like it's intentional.

I mean let's be honest as soon as the guy registered here RM did a post basically outing him as a someone who's into bestiality so if nothing happened to RM I'm not sure why something happened to Wylted. 

I think president is a worthless office to begin with it's basically saying the mods are too lazy to do anything we'll let this person do stuff. And supposedly we've had a president all the time I didn't know who it was before this person so they didn't do anything either. 

Who told you to come in and disrupt these threads?

It is my understanding that the presidents don't moderate they are called in if there's an issue to maybe speak on behalf of a board member but they don't actually do any moderation and my mistaken on that?

Is harassment against the rules? The problem is is some people get banned for harassment and some people don't. Some people are allowed to be complete pricks to other people and nothing happens to them. Mods do what they want when they want they have favorites and that's just the way it is. All websites are like that. And the way this sites modded is part of the reason it doesn't grow. I found out that they gave somebody a warning for sexually harassing me that I didn't even say anything about but when I complain people were making comments about my children and pedophilia in the same post those posts were ignored. Then I was banned for responding to the post about my children. But nobody cares about that because it's me all of a sudden you're worried about the rules cuz someone you like was banned. Even you're insincere.