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no worries. this site wont last much longer. enjoy what you can, it will be over soon.
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@PREZ-HILTON
no. all blocking does is make it where you dont get notified when you are mentioned. they can still openly harass anyone on this website.
harassment doesnt cover it as it ought to. people will still be harassed regardless if notified or not. It is unreasonable to assume that harassment is nullified by such measures and shows ignorance on the part of anyone to assume it solves anything.
the hypothesis of how its suppose to work assumes the person can somehow navigate forums and debate comments and magically never see someone talk about them. its a thought experiment that has no basis in reality as long as a community is sought to be established.
However, that is not the point of my post AT ALL. i am arguing for more freedom to have ro's and swifter response to harrassment IN GENERAL. not withstanding a person be blocked or not.
i promise you this. any strawman attempt to say that the person blocking the harasser is at fault because they "shouldnt read forums or debate comments" will not be recieved kindly and will not pass an inspection of fcc, europol nor FBI harassment standards.
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such measures of clarity can be forum posts and comment sections of debates That have no evidence of pm hypocrisy.
in otherwords. if they say they want them to stop talking to them but the person(s) show evidence that they are talking with that person via pm. The claim of targetted harassment can be negated by mods.
mods arent responsible for communication OUTSIDE of debateart.
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@PREZ-HILTON
here is my suggestion. when a person says directly and very clearly that they dont want to talk to someone and asks that person to leave them alone, and that person continues to speak to them. That the person being talked to can tell the moderators to have a RO without group decision or deliberation. This is targetted harassment and websites have been taken down over this very issue.
it helps secure the people intrested in open dialogue from those who do not. And, it will protect the website from being reported to organizations/government agencies/media.
we do not need harassment or a form of verbal rape (ie trying to talk to someone without their consent) and that stricter punishments would be considered for repeat offenders, who, it is clear that they neither care for the person's (they are harassing) wellbeing, nor the openess of dialogue.
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i have to agree with rm on this. even as someone who wasnt banned. and was away for 3 years. things havent changed much. people have to ignore the trolling and disregard for others, because a slap on the wrist only makes trolls angry, a ban would be more effective.
if you want a website devoted to open minded debates and discussions, i suggest cleaning the house and keeping it swept. the forums are the best example of this.
children can go to reddit to troll. Adults discuss and walk away when no agreement can be reached.
respect is needed and idc what philosophy people have, respect is given because that person is a human being and has thoughts and feelings just like you.
thats why i give every atheist a chance to reason with me before i block them and ignore their blasphemies.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
you have responded as a fool, and as a fool you will be regarded. you cant answer me 1 to 10.
i will have no more words for you. if you derail my threads with your stupidity, i will make certain the mods will not look kindly upon you.
consider this your first and last warning.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
you have challenged and i will respond, i will weaponize your analogy against you.
Stand up and answer me, for if you are silent in response, it will confirm your guilt.
where were you when the heavens were formed and the stars set in order? was its you who established wisdom that she should maintain the precepts of all things? did your very essence create the concept? did your mind make the precept and it be first recognized as female in nature?
consider now if you dare the war in the heavens. who leads the armies? michael. yet is it you who is God who named him? do you know why he is thus named? For his name means "Who is like the lord?" and he fights against the adversary of all life, satan, who in time past was called lucifer the son of the morning, the shining one. Did you consider darkness your kin? do you rend the principalities with words as a sword? what shall be the end of the heavens? Declare it if you know.
God is called the king of terror and he arms himself in light and majesty, a cloth dipped in blood to avenge himself against the ungodly. By the word of his mouth he will slay legions and legions. without number until the blood rises above the chest of horses. Declare this if you can!
as the light scatters across the earth and creates the east wind and 7 colors. tell us their meaning if you are wise.
The sword is drawn, it glitters and yearns to slay, that righteousness may be executed, the silent abide in darkness, the fool only prattles. Man cannot answer God 1 to a thousand of his inquries. Does Dust command deity? Does the worm weaponize language for chaos, understanding nothing?
Speak, Dust. Declare your wisdom, show your light that all may see it is darkened by reason of madness. Compel ignorance to cover you, it will not obey.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
attempts to spam this thread is not appreciated.
disprove if you will, what i have stated or ask me for clarity of what i have said.
your nonsense is not valued by me and contributes nothing, regardless of metaphor.
if you wish to challenge the scriptures, do so directly. i am not afraid of truthful inquiry without disregard.
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it is impossible to seperate the spirit from the body until the body dies. therefore, evil will always be recognized by the spirit of humanity and label it thus.
our bodys and minds are not made to know and percieve experience and knowledge beyond us. so with our scewed experiences we do the best we can and compare data via science.
dissatisfaction draws more dissatisfaction. pain attracts more pain. when there is no peace, chaos, sin. seeks to grow and become manifest in doubt, fear, and malady
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it never ceases to amuse me how arrogant people are. just because something "new" happens, doesnt mean it followed the same pattern as the "old" history shows how humans caused plagues to other humans as far back as 1000 years ago.
logic is subjective, individuality (in that no one affects another) is foolishness.
when someone says"we may never find out" thats them being arrogant in their ignorance or optimism. or they are lying.
anyways. its funny how things announced 4 years ago suddenly are brought up again under the possibility of truth. why is that? And if its such a possibility that people put it in the forum of information (newspapers, media, etc) what is the potential evidence that makes thousands of people pause other news to bring it up? because a number of people believe it.
why? that is the important question. and when you process that question to its fullest extension you will know 1 truth. mankind is not trustworthy.
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@Skipper_Sr
scroll to bottom of forum the statistics show participants.
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devil. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. you are a liar and a blashemer. there is no truth in you.
you will leave this place in the name of Jesus Christ. i plead the blood, i take authority over you in the name of Jesus Christ and i cast you out!
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Its very simple. The reasons why christians who obey God and scriptures are nonsensical to you, is because your mind is blinded by the god of this world. Satan. and you cannot do the things that please God because you serve satan after your passions and lusts.
if you would desire hope, peace, truth, love and your hearts desires. Repent, turn to Jesus Christ, love and obey him and believe on him only. Then your mind will be unshackled from the blindness, the shame, the guilt and hatred toward God.
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Jesus has promised more than just salvation from sin.
he will give to those who obey him peace. a peace that all is well, no matter what rises against you.
he will break the chains of bondage to sin. you wont have to rely on drugs, videos, accolades of others, etc. You can get fulfillment and joy from Christ alone.
at his right hand are pleasures forevermore.
he does not force any to serve him. but who or what will you turn to when you need love, forgiveness, understanding and hope? Who or what is your god besides him?
can they do the works Jesus Christ and God has done? where are their witnesses?
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its good to acknowledge thre... train derailment. trains have to travel somehow.
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@Sir.Lancelot
rm has always been for himself. he has no allies, just people he likes, agrees with, people that make him feel good and enemies.
you havent been here very long, i didnt expect you to know.
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what is this, the 5th time rm left? i lost count after 3 years ago.
i would like to take this opportunity to encourage debateart to have a way of blocking others/not seeing their posts.
or give ro's more freely for people.
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repent, be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ and recieve his Holy Spirit and obey him only.
There is no other way to be saved. There is no other hope.
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true christainity isnt explained with words or examples. knowledge is given to those who obey God. whose minds arent blinded by satan the god of this world.
That being said. search for those who seem open to the word of God. not the rebellious hellbound who oppose it. they are hellbound until they repent and obey God.
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hmmm. Its too soon to tell. I doubt biden will get impeached. and definately the voting wont affect anything.
im curious to see how russia and china will spin this and if iran will get involved.
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i thought someone said starman, but it was strawman.
im disappointed now
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lets get off the forums for a bit. its getting heated.
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@b9_ntt
i recommend reading the chapters. Jesus Explains what he means.
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@YouFound_Lxam
you are missing what im saying. you are unable to process what i said. perfection doesnt mean sinlessness.
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there are different types of works. there is the work of law, which is caused by mankinds efforts by flesh in obedience to it. then there is the work of faith which is entirely dependent on belief in God and obeying him
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and there is the work of flesh. galatians 5:19-21
so faith and its works will save you, but faith without its works is dead. you will know a person of faith by their works.
john 10:37-38
galatians 2:16,21
galatians 5:2-4
romans 3:19-31
tldr its a misunderstood arguement because people cant nuiance to seperate righteousness of law, righteousness of faith and works of the flesh. do not serve christ by the law but believe on him through faith and you will do works of faith which shows you are of God.
also, alot of people dont obey God and dont have the Holy Spirit which gives them power and truth to serve God. so they get fustrated trying to obey God via law, cause their faith isnt maintained.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Being perfect is to be without fault, to have lived without any sin. No one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are perfect.
can you back that up with scripture? read what i posted above that. #47
either you are wrong or scripture is.
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labels destroy arguements.
society doesnt know whats best for the individual.
so many lies and misconceptions in this thread. people are diverse, men would have greater range of values if they werent told how to live by society. there is nothing wrong with staying with family past age 18 as long as you are working/helping somehow. its only when you are married that you should seperate from parents.
we dont need more ideas of a man/women based on opinions, labels or a synopsis of their character/actions. Let God tell you what makes a man and what makes a woman.
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guys. we gotta stop assuming stuff about what other people say and just ask them. for example #36 doesnt specify types of drugs youfound lxam meant.
is there any evidence to show a childs tendancy to suicide upon their legs being fused? all i know is that people who do lose use of their legs tend to struggle more physically and emotionally.
also a person's belief's dont make them weird. it may make it strange to the person observing them, until you understand why they believe what they believe.
are we having fun yet?
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unless they both repent they are both going to hell.
but if you are asking ethics according to society or violates more laws. the antisemitic.
if you define ethics by personal code, objective morality or violates by hypocrisy, the morally ambigious.
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wokeness is the scarlet crusade of earth
(see wow scarlet crusade)
good intentions, good leadership at first, then zeal turned to selfishness and deception took over.
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you dont understand what im trying to say. dont worry about it. its more important for you to be saved. have you recieved the Holy Spirit?
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all i can say is, go easy on him rm. and give lots of links.
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you just jumped into a headache. i pity you.
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and i dont subscribe to nihilism. but i do believe in mankinds ability to view anything in a positive light.
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@Sir.Lancelot
im not debating it. infact i lean in bias towards it. God made many things for us in the earth. He told us that all things are pure for them who are pure. so i have no problem with drugs IF THEY ARE USED SPARINGLY AND CORRECTLY in intention and dosage.
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i believe that all of scripture should be interpreted literally. God isnt metaphorical, nor is he a deciever. If he says something is happening or happened or will happen. then it will.
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@Tradesecret
nonsense. nor do you have any proof to make that assumption.
you certainly dont have a good enough understanding of scripture to seperate metaphorical discription as a true rendering.
i bet you think the psalms are just metaphorical as well.
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@Tradesecret
you can reject what you want, but scripture makes it clear that even rocks have a will. that even the earth is "groaning" according to scripture, desiring for the manifestation of the sons of God.
you seem very confident in your ignorance. if you want verses, just @me
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@Tradesecret
are you asserting rocks dont praise out of desire/freewill?
would you argue humans also dont have freewill? you are on a slippery slope in assuming inanimate objects dont have a desire/will.
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someone saying "a degree of medical certainty" is a meaningless phrase. there is no standard for "medical degree of certainty"
its nonsense what people say to justify their findings.
i dont trust anyone, doctors are humans too.
they should have held police to same standard as eric garner if there was indeed proof that confrotation led to floyd's death.
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@b9_ntt
jesus explains later. perfect like God is perfect, he does good to all people. Good and evil.
perfect in attitude and obedience. perfect doesnt mean sinless, it means you are doing something the rightest and bestest way.
matthew 5:43-48
james 3:1-2
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why is everything so backwards? eric garner actually killed by officers = no indictment. george floyd on drugs, dies mostly if not entirely from it. = officer gets 22+ years
edit: to prevent nitpicking. eric died to the confrontation with police, his heart couldnt take it.
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@Tradesecret
luke 19:37-40
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bible shows all of creation is religious, or at very least believes and obeys God.
i can argue that rocks are more religious than some people.
i can argue that rocks are more religious than some people.
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