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@Math_Enthusiast
Mathematics does not state that "π is invalid." That's ridiculous. Could you link to a source which states this, or prove that "π is invalid?"
Odd enough yes the derinition Wiki uses for Pi describes the sum of by being unfit to use in any calculation that requires a sum.......
" meaning that it cannot be a solution of an equation involving only sums, products, powers, and integers."
I can even quote you as you have said the 3.14159 is not used instead a veriable vlue symbol is used π.
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Calculus and group theory really don't have much to do with each other. Especially not the Archimedean property.Calculus has a lot to do with sets but sets and groups are not the same.
Groups and sets have everything to do with fraction stranslated and written as decimals. As does calculus According to Archimedes and mathematics the infinite decimal does not exist. Citing Archimedes property is just the wrong as a call addressing infinite in relationship to irrational decimals as irrational numbers. The guy wrote Calculus....
Everything in the video has a fixed value. The cardinality of the hotel and of the buses is aleph null, and the cardinality of the party bus at the end of the video is the continuum. (see the second meaning of "continuum" on the linked webpage) Cardinal numbers never show up in calculus, but this isn't calculus, it's set theory.
Everything in the video has a fixed value. No, it started that way but quickly changed...the hotel for all we know has an infinite number of buildings, one for each bus. The buildings only hold 10, 100, 1,000,10,000., 100,000, 1,000,000, 10,000,000, 100,000,000, and 1,000,000, 000 people as so we can identify by series the truth of infinite. The real issue is that the calculator is just having sex and multiplying like a rabbit the sequence of 0.99999 is a flaw in the calculator’s design. Rights Reserved Patent pending.As a mathematician a person has a certain obligation to uphold a standard of morality when issues of human safety are involved with instruction of mathematics. Laws of education govern only the principle of instruction not injustice or legal negligence, it is law of negligence and other laws which does this. Usually,. Not always by usually….
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@Math_Enthusiast
If this is meant to be a counterargument, I don't see what it proves.
The video is not meant to be a counter argument. lol...... how does anyone counter a theoretical condition we are pretending which is describing a scenario with its own goal not condition set to be factual sound prinicples. Please do not get me wrong I like the video it is simply not how I would describe it, that is all. Again I am sorry I can get offensive. As fact we agree there is no such thing as an infinite number of people, correct? Conflicts change when theoretical conditions are not meant to be argued as a truth. Again, the video is a lie made to prove a point. Point taken. I am just giving a limited point of view on logic and reason. Honestly it was a great video all things aside.
I have gone over with "zedvictor4" thereis no infinite number of nines it is a low-level program error in a calculator.Nothing more than the numbers repeating is nothing but a choice over cost effective production of calculators and the computer age ate it up like prime beef or a meatless steak if we role that way. We have cited the work Archimedes and the issue had been made clear Centuries ago by his work.
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@Math_Enthusiast
Sorry for notresponding directly to your post. Was up late. I understand what you aresaying, and I understand what you see in the video, as I see it as well. Itdoes make logical sense but is simple not in a Boolean state of numerical valuea false statement. Thank you for you patients with me in this debate.
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@zedvictor4
Because you can not divide 1 precisely by 3 decimally.
Yes, we can divide 1 precisely by 3 the easiest way is to use the duodecimal system. What changing the decimal system means is that 1 is made up of 12 parts instead of 10 parts as a fraction. It was the solution Archimedes had used along with the Roman Empire. This means that 1 divided by 3 = .40 and 1 divided by 4 = .30, 1 divided by 6 = .20, while 1 divided by 2 = .60 all that need to be remember in the process is the new decimal system is equivalent to 1 = 12 and not 1 = 10 changing 2 into a decimal means the value is 24 andnot 20 as in 2 = 20/20th or for 24 it is 1 = 24/24th.
What is then needed is a new ruler to make measurement.
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Everything in the video has a fixed value. The cardinality of the hotel and of the buses is aleph null, and the cardinality of the party bus at the end of the video is the continuum. (see the second meaning of "continuum" on the linked webpage) Cardinal numbers never show up in calculus, but this isn't calculus, it's set theory.
Infinite people, infinite buses, infinite rooms, andinfinite hotels...Are to be proven that is the Hypothesis. The groups ofpeople on the bus do not end, nor do the groups of rooms in the hotels. The veyuse of odd even rooms in the video, the people on the buses are all still allpeople, simply the infinite group is on every bus to be counted in simultaneoussequence.
I'm not sure I follow. Are you claiming that the decimal expansion of π is invalid?
Yes.......no, mathematics states Pi is invalid.
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Exactly. { } brackets identify a set, not a group. As I explained, in math, those are two different things. It's an important distinction.
More importantly in calculus a set, and a group of sets are caculated in formula Archimedean Property using the symbol to describe groups, and the symbol for sets of groups. 0.99999 describes 6 groups { 1.0, 0.9 , 0.09, 0.009, 0.00009 } describes 5 groups. We agree the brackets are fractional sets?
"A group is a finite or infinite set of elements together with a binary operation (called the group operation) that together satisfy the four fundamental properties of closure, associativity, the identity property, and the inverse property. The operation with respect to which a group is defined is often called the "group operation," and a set is said to be a group "under" this operation. Elements , , , ... with binary operation between and denoted form a group if"
1. Closure: If A and B are two elements in G , then the product of A B is also in G.
"A binary operation f (x, y) is an operation that applies to two quantities or expressions x and y .
A binary operation on a nonempty set A is a map f A x A > A such that
1. f is defined for every pair of elements in A , and
2. f uniquely associates each pair of elements in A to some element of A .
Examples of binary operation on A from A x A to A include addition (), subtraction (), multiplication ) and division ()."
A binary operation on a nonempty set A is a map f A x A > A such that
1. f is defined for every pair of elements in A , and
2. f uniquely associates each pair of elements in A to some element of A .
Examples of binary operation on A from A x A to A include addition (), subtraction (), multiplication ) and division ()."
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This sentence isn't the most readable, but if I'm interpreting it correctly, you are saying that an infinite group of people. That is true. The video is just using something concrete (people) to assist in the explanation. It is not being suggested that any of this could actually happen. Only in the abstract. As the video says, this line of inquiry lead to the invention of the modern cell phone and computer, so if it's all wrong, then I'm not sure how it's possible for us to have this discussion.
lol ... yeah it gave me a hard time to write as well. Rephrase, If a infinite number of people on / in one objectis to true. All other buses are empty as fact. There are an infinite number of buses but only one bus of infinite people, as there are no people left to go on any more buses but one. "The whole idea on the video is a lie. Not even a good lie at that." Understand?
Could you please explain what is meant by bus (a), bus (b) and bus (x)?
It is part of a minor math discrepancy about the video. When describing the bus and people in calculus the letters a and b would be written as buses y and z they are variables not fixed values.
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@Math_Enthusiast
"I had written."
"I respectfully disagree on what is stated as the Archimedean Property uses the symbol ∈ describing a membership between real numbers the letter ( a ) can describing in calculus a value which is fixed and the { } brackets identify a set."
We must be misunderstanding each other here. I agree with this.
1. We have a membership to group by the use of mathematic"∈" symbol means membership and well it is ArchimedeanProperties we are speak of here.
2. The bracket { } identifythe math principle of set in all math notation not just Archimedean property.
3. Archimedes’ work is on calculus which is in general explanationbrings mathematics of calculus in to describe x as a "little bitof" or most often described as " an element of." The whole ofcalculus describes the topic of element as of being more than on so is sets andgroups of elements.
they will probably not say "3.141592...." Instead, they will probably say "π.
I'm not going to focus on "Pi" as it was part of a list of mistakes to corect. I have always felt this error in desperate needing of a solution. The topic at this point may drive us toa lesser understanding at the moment. On a personal note, I have resolved anyissues with a approximation of Pi, writing a new formulation in trigonometry as theterm cPi using work from Isaac Newton's trigonometry, whereas triangles bothright and left 90 degree angles can be used to calculate circumference as hypotenuseof those respected 90 degree angles. as the letter (c) suggest in calculus Ihave a created a formula that sets a constant that is not irrational as value.
If S is any subset (not just a subgroup) of the real numbers, then gng^-1 = gg^-1n = n ∈ S by definition of g^-1 and by the commutative property for any n ∈ S and g ∈ G, G here being either the multiplicative group of real numbers, or the additive group of real numbers, whichever you were referring to.
so I'm not sure where you are getting this from
In the above exsample did all of the mathematic symbols translate across to this forum.They didn't for me and the math symbols of a triangle with the apex facing right or left is the principle missing for subgroup here.
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@Math_Enthusiast
These sets are all, rather counterintuitively, the same size. There are, however, sets that are bigger. This video explains it better than I ever could.
There is no such thing as a group of people as sets of infinite people infinite describe all the people as one normal group. The bus as explained in the video is stating that a lie is taking place somewhere. If bus (a), being a set value in calculus is in fact infinite there is no bus (b) as set value. Bus (a) is holding all people. otherwise, bus (a) is properly called bus (x) and is an approximation value only.
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There is no error involved, so I don't see this as relevant. You may claim that 0.99999.. = 1 is dependent on error, but that is simply false. I demonstrated in post #14 that this follows from the definition of an infinite decimal.
The error here is the choice in numerical decimal systemthat creates the 0.9999... in the first place. This is not the only error in mathematics,or the only location is a string of formula where error occurs. In post #14 we established only that 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, etc. are groups of subsets of #1 not that they had been precise. We are also describing the use of duodecimal system to negate fractions decimals like (0.9, 0.6, and 0.3).
The Archimedean property states that if x is a real number there exists some natural number n such that n > x, so the Archimedean property has nothing to do with subsets or normal subgroups, nor does it "describe that 9 is a boundary." Also, yes, 0.9 is not equal to 1, nor is 9 equal to 10, but 9 and 0.9 aren't "normal subgroups" of anything. A normal subgroup is a type of subgroup, which is in turn a subset of a group that is also a group. 0.9 and 9 aren't groups.
I respectfully disagree on what is stated as the Archimedean Property uses the symbol ∈ describing a membership betweenreal numbers the letter ( a ) can describing in calculus a value which is fixed and the { } brackets identify a set. meaning group, the group is clearly marked as a subset of 1.0 it is in no way infinite. It is the error translation of decimal which creates the idea of infinite. We might as well just blame the person who invented the calculator for not adding a fraction / duodecimal switch on the device. 9 - 0.9999... are part of the fractional subgroup. Archimedes used the duodecimal system and anticipated calculus to which he dealt with the infinitely small.
All subgroups of the real numbers are normal, so I don't see this as relevant. This is in fact true of any Abelian group. (A group that satisfies the communatative property.)
Some subgroups are Irrational numbers or Natural numbers they are not all "normal." We can compare Time, Degree, Prime, Natural, Irrational, Rational, Odd, Even, etc. and see this.
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@Greyparrot
I'm just showing how states differ on how much risk you are expected to bear.
How many States provide a Social Security Number or State IdentificationNumber to a person pre-birth?
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@Vegasgiants
Exactly. Which is why a woman should be able to get a abortion.....or else you are forcing a woman to risk her life
Women are allowed to admit to murder in a police station they are just less likely to be understood clearly when they describe the murder as aborting a human life. It makes no sense to allow law or medical treatment accuse of women or man of a crime. A woman is not forced to have an abortion she is choosing to perform an imperfect state of the Union with AmericanConstitutional Preamble. It is clear a more perfect connection to United States Constitutional Right begins with a word that cannot be mistaken by the public for an admissionof murder.
If abortionwas so great, why does no one place how perfect the connection was to Preamble qualifications of constitutional right?
The actionsof the Supreme court and oval executive office might make sense if state and federal supreme courts had not located a violation of legal privacy already.
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@Vegasgiants
I would rather federal.law legalized abortion.
Kind of the point made by constitutional violation ofprivacy the word abort is describing the immigration as a type of murder andthus the requirements of a court trial is needed to declare innocence or thepotential crime of admission unlike a religious confession lingers foreverbefore the courts of law. This does not sound like the best connection that canbe made to established justice to me. Does it sound like a perfect connectionto established justice to you in truth?
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@Greyparrot
An abortion and a birth are both a termination of a pregnancy The only thing the laws should say is you can't choose to kill a fetus if both can be saved when a mother's life depends on terminating a pregnancy.
Birth in this matter is immigration and birth only describethe location of entry into a nation. The act of lethal force applied by a fetusis random. There are only some limits to risk and medical treatment does not ensuresurvival created by the immigration process, for mother, ambassador, child theone person assigned an ambassador, by who as law of nature presumes over child.
The point of equality under lawis made with fetus as a murder weapon, to which the mother may end her ownlife, when insisting the child be given medical care above and beyond her own,or someone may use the fetus to end her life, knowingly. When an accuserignores known danger, then detains by use of litigation criminal or civil theyhave undertaken the criminal act of attempted murder. If the women are to diebecause of immigration. We are assigned the grueling task of establishing themore perfect union to Preamble requirements of United States Constitution. Ifas a human, you are to practice a type of governing in which the law is tooused to govern law move to Israel and become a citizen there. It is the onlynation which does not introduce United State Constitutional right as petition ofgrievance to inappropriate legislated laws. (no offence meant it is a truth,right or wrong time shall be able to tell.)
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@YouFound_Lxam
The reason why aborting a fetus is murder, is because:
Abort describes an order given to stop. We do not abort a fever we medically treat the simptoms of the fever.
Why female-specific amputation is not murder it describes to all people, in truth, a known medical procedure called amputation, a medical treatment removal though not limited to only women, but is used in the medical treatment for only women. A described medical treatment with no legal side bar and as fact can be said to have relationship with a process of legal immigration and its KNOWN risks only a women faces. If Congress, the International Court of Justice, or the United States Supreme Court just issue official report detailing abort as being in no way interpreted directly as aadmission by its own description to crime this debate would end immediately. Any lawyer I have ever questioned about questionable contracts or medical treatments has always given me the say advice. GET IT IN WRITING! If they will not put it in writing find someone who will. That group is not openly acknowledging a potential wrong.
Legal malpractice means that the lawyer breached their duty of care to the client and the client was harmed as a result. For example, in some states, a cause of action for legal malpractice requires: “(1) the existence of an attorney-client relationship creating a duty of care by the defendant attorney, (2) the breach of that duty by the defendant, and (3) proximate causation of the damages claimed by the plaintiff.” ( modifide)
The possible breach of duty bythe defendant (1) allowed admission described in medical treatment after courtruling of illegal invasion of privacy. ( 2) the admission associates both menand women equally into a lifetime of prosecution to murder by appropriate legislation of law that illegal violates medical and legal privacy. The privacy of women, men, and of the one person assigned to ambassador of immigration appointed by law of nature as the women and mother.
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@zedvictor4
And I easily demonstrated that 0.9... will always fall .1 or .01 etcetera, short of 1.
What Archimedean Property displays is that the law of motion applies to numbers by mathematic and mathematic equations. Whereas,( 0.99999) is a subgroup of (9.0), (0.969696) is a normal subgroup of (96.0), (9.0) is not a normal subgroup of (96.0), the four subgroups may be part of a other form of subgroup outside the normal, stating motion. As far as Ebuc what it proves about time is that (0.0166666) is not part of a normal subgroup in mathematics when written as (.0166.99) or( 12: 00: 00: 1.99 what we know about time is that there is no zero in a compass which reads a curved line in relationship to a tangent. This means the calculus is and was always missing key Identificatioin in formal equations. Did not mean to leave you out of the debate Ebuc, always a pleasure.
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@Math_Enthusiast
Not only does not everyone have an electron microscope, no one needs one to verify that the proof that you quoted (which is the standard proof of the Archimedean property) is valid. Also, errors in computers and calculators are irrelevant. No computer or calculator is required in this proof.
"Everyone needs to have an Electron Microscope to observe as a witness the error as it is made in mathematics and how it occurs ,or it is otherwise seen as human failure only."
The idea is not to disprove Archimedean Property, the objectis to establish it is not mathematically relevant. Archimedean Property are classifications of subsets and mathematic elements. The Archimedean Property describes that ( 9.0 ≠ 10 ) as ( 0.9 ≠ 1.0) stating that as fact9.0 and 0.9 are normal subgroup( ⪧) the idea is not to disprove Archimedean Property the object is to establish it is not mathematically used relevant. Archimedean Property are clasifications of subsets and mathematic elements. The Archimedean Property describes that 9 is boundary.
In abstract algebra, a normal subgroup (also known as a invaariant suibgroup or self-conjugate subgroup) is a subgroup that is invariant under conjugation by members of the group of which it is a part. In other words,a subgroup N of the group G is normal in Gif and only if gng ^ -1 element (∈) N for all g element (∈ )G and n element ( ∈ )theusual notation for this relation is N normal subgroup (⪦ )G
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@Vegasgiants
That is why I add the fact that the fetus poses a threat to the life of the mother. This coupled with the fact that the fetus currently has not developed a active brain supports the right to abortion
Not good enough and the fact is birth creates a threat to a women’s life. This means all women's life is placed in random danger by birth all women are not placed in danger by the child she is made by law of nature ambassador too, only birth.
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@YouFound_Lxam
The reason why aborting a fetus is murder, is because:
The only reason an abortion is murder is the word abort describes a murder when it is said about the termination of birth. Birth also being a word to a map of where the immigration of a person takes place into a country.
Here is the big moment to shine YouFound_Lxam, a test, prove female specific amputation is murder? A women and man, a women with anothern women are together stopping a form of immigration which places her life and only her life in danger as a random possiblilaty of the event according to all witness.
When a man aborts another man's life and makes a claim publicly,he has aborted that man's life he is admitting murdering. The legislation of law does not call murder abortion. The connection to established justice isbeing broken in an unconstitutional act of loss of privacy, sending the matter back after ruling to a lower court does not change the known loss of privacy that has been documented by the Supreme Courts, State or Federal.
Ok you are not understanding.
You are telling a lie and I do not agree with the lie. Iunderstand. I want in writing that abortion is not Pregnancy abortion, and Pregnancy abortion is not in any way, shape, and or form an admission to murder, apossible admission to murder, t cannot be mistakenly, misconstrued, or ever found to be admission or treated as admission to murder in both the past and the future of all humanity.
I pay for the notary if necessary to have it notarized whilesinged, be it written by you or as requested before from Congress and President/ Presadera. You know what they say….PUTIT IN WRITING!
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@zedvictor4
It is a concern of both digital money and A.I. As you may be tip toeing around the topic, yes, this math has been a loop hole for many computer programs and even has a name as it can take place as simple data seepage in most programming.
And joke or not. .....It's actually a reasonable consideration, relative to reductionism.
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@Math_Enthusiast
*If you aren't sure why this implies that infinitesimals can't exist, if a positive infinitesimal is defined as a number greater than zero but less than 1/n for every natural number n, (which 1 - 0.99999... would be if it were positive) than if x is a positive infinitesimal, x < 1/n for every natural number n, and so 1/x > n for every natural number n, a violation of the Archimedean property.
Archimedean Property does not consider laws of thermodynamics. Archimedean property applies a rule of scale and proportion which is not by fact accurate by laws of thermodynamics or in line with human margins of error. 0.9 is proportional to 0.999999 they are equal though are not secureas equal by precise measurements and are subject to change, such low values are demonstrated to change by the choice of letters assigned in Calculus near theend of the English Alphabet.
Lemma The set N of positive integers N = {0, 1, 2, . . .} is not bounded from above.Proof Reasoning by contradiction, assume N is bounded from above. Since N ⊂ R and Rhas the least upper bound property, then N has a least upper bound α ∈ R. Thus n ≤ αfor all n ∈ N and is the smallest such real number.Consequently α − 1 is not an upper bound for N (if it were, since α − 1 < α, then α wouldnot be the least upper bound). Therefore there is some integer k with α − 1 < k. But thenα < k + 1. This contradicts that α is an upper bound for N
Not everyone has or can work an Electron Microscope to establish that there is no natural value of 0.999999 and those values created by computers and calculators are fabricated and not calculated by poor practice in calculation. There are several examples of this throughout the history of mathematics as science has evolved over the years. The formula to write 0.9999 is more complex thus taking more work than that what is for most people is not needed to do to acquire the sum which will suit a given purpose during normal math routines...
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Murder is when a person, or people, man, and womenunlawfully kill using the act of lethal force. The lethal force of the childthough is only directed at the women, yet the cause of death may includeenvironment, events of the mother’s past, events of the contributor of theintervention of death caused by law of nature, both known and unknown to themother or medical science. Type the words Female-specific amputation it isharder to type it is visibly longer and more words. Typing abortion takes 3x aslittle time and deals out the minimal principles of birth and pregnancy usingonly one word abort. A reasonable person can type both abortion and female specificamputation so what is really preventing democracy from even looking at or justwriting female specific amputation?
Though abortion is a juicing part of this debate let’s investigate the issue of democrat and its connection to established justice through American democracy. What does democracy mean to be independent from there public as is suggested by the addition of a two-vote process. The first definition according to Meriam-Webster for a democracy is: government by the people. Especially: rule of the majority. So, in whole truth we can described democracy as Government by the people held in a majority. How people are to be held in a majority is the focus of all interpretations of voter' s American "United State" Constitutional Right. Question: Does the words united states describe groups of majority? Problem one: A constitutional grievance can be described as a political run off where two parties working together to establish an unfair advantage by manipulating the idea of majorities by party run off, using primary elections and cost can take place. Thus, obstructing the very nature of a natural majority by reducing the numberof voters to be voted upon during a striaght forward election.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Ok. So not feeding a brain-dead person is murder.That would mean ripping apart a braindead baby, would also be murder.
( 1 )To be medically declared dead a person must be made a citizen of the state of law in which the medical doctor has been licensed. ( 2) Murder is the unlawful end of life the unratified constitutional right as united state named female-specific amputation is saying a woman is lawfully pushing forward an immigration that is threat that grows with extended time only endangering her life. ( 3 ) Someone who is in favor of abortion in legislation, be it Pro-life,be it pro-choice must prove all women are guilty of murder. Before describing even one woman must confess as united state of law to murder using the name of a so-called medical treatment like pregnancy abortion.
Outside of legislation of law a person being man or women can make an accusation of abortion against a woman. Inside the written legislation of all states of law within a Constitutional union legislature cannot legally perform the task. The reason is it requires perjury to be entered into legislation of law. Inplain language legislators must lie on an official document.
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@Math_Enthusiast
How we come to learn about something that matters. How I learned about the mathematics decimal issue is over studying to be a machinist while in high school. A training process I never completed for personal issues distracted me. Is (0.99999 = 1) no it is not the reason why though is not due to size but rather expansion and contraction in proportion to hot and cold temperatures. As a machinist this was instructed to me to be the important issue as we are to understand how parts interact with friction to create mechanical failure. In the world of mechanical machining by hand something that is turned down or cut to 1.0 today may a few months from not be measurable less than 1.0 in a change of season. It may also change in a much faster sense if the part is operating under workload conditions and is exposed to heat as friction.
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The point is the democracy missing the focus point of wrongby United States Constitution. The answer is yes. The why is we are askingwomen and men to admit to a description of murder by writing it as a medical treatmentand as legislated law. Deception is the crime which takes place before any so-calledclaim made by admission as murder. The only way this model is going to changeis we hold the voters legally accountable for their part in this crime. It isthen the voter may become more willing to TESTIFY telling the truth.
Equality of justice and the more perfect connection toestablished justice never begins with. When you drop the possibility that weare tell a lie to intentionally frame women and men for a crime. Using only theadmission we allow you to make we will think about allowing you liberty andjustice.
The damage caused to Americas democracy was created bythe democracy, for the democracy, not the people.
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With braindead people, how do we pull the plug on them? We let natural causes take its place, and the person dies.
Just want to point out as both fact and truth we are letting illness or damage run its course not nature when it comes to people who are described as medically brain dead. Medically we describe very young children held by nature in the womb, before birth, as incapable of thought or capable of thought. The argument is not addressing United States Constitutional right which is the obstacle set before abortions connection to all women in America. ( 1 ) We are first to I.D. the how there is no connection to all women as united state. ( 2 ) Then we are to describe with some detail the why " all " such issue even exists. ( 2 )Then we are to address correcting the issue of union between law and women as Constitutional Right.
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@Vegasgiants
That is factually incorrect. Abortion is always safer than pregnancy.
The factmight better be said death is a random risk of birth that is by practicesometimes avoidable more often than not. The women is the creator of the risk it is United States Consitutional right that ensure the furture gedneraions and those who obstruct Consitutional right share that risk of death by law equal with her. The admission made by the word abortion is what holds the judical prejudice to one side of the random chances of death.
YouFound_Lxam said: So, you are saying, that if a mother wants to kill a human life just because she feels like it, that is reasonable?
Constitutionalright describes a medical treatment to stop a dangerous and certain exposure todeath created by immigration process all women share as united state of law.Not just the one, or few fortunate women who might be displaying the moreobvious signs of danger. All women are being guided to establish a more perfectunion with American Constitutional preamble as it is obvious, they and thosewho may be charging fee and or donating services to do so cannot establish aUnited States Constitutional Right. Over 100 years and untold amounts ofassorted damage to America justifies Constitutional intervention.
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@YouFound_Lxam
I agree.You know what the solution to that is?Don't get pregnant.Simple
We are not asking a woman not to get pregnant we are asking that she perform a task of immigration which places only her life at risk. We have knowledge of her pregnancy through illegal invasion of privacy we do not know the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Our decisions have consequences. People need to learn that.
I agree, that is why when a female specific amputation is challenged by some one other than the legal ambassador of the immigrant. The person who makes that legal challenge can be punished by the full extent of the law when the practice of law and medical practice both fail. Otherwise, there is no equal protection under the law for both sides. As a bonus the illegal confession used by calling an immigration termination abortion as a name of medical treatment no longer performs legal malpractice of law as united state. With all women.
Ok, but the what's the difference between a brain-dead patient, and a fetus?
According to state law plus Federal law of records the brain-dead patient was a citizen of some country and person before a medical patient then person, and immigrant. We are looking for perfection in established justice not opinion and business as legal and medical opportunities. The equal protection under then law means a associate of a mother acting as abassador's gardian can file the same murder charges as a state filed as grievance agianst her in event of her death.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Because biological life starts at conception
Biologically as a whole truth life starts in two places and as a political compromise it is instructed to have begun at conception. The reason is that the starting time is not the same duration with women and men and varies as fact. Conception as fact only the place life had been extended, the shivery here is to protect women from nothing but truth, which describes women as killing a baby every time ovulation takes place out of fear of losing her own life during the process of immigration of life into society. Almost all competent woman is aware a life will end when she does not become pregnant every time ovulation happens to her. There is an indication of political compromise that has taken place between religions in this stance of when life in fact begins, and when it life does not begin. This political compromise is to be used in replacement of a united state of truth, whole truth, and nothing but truth. Using just some limited truth and suppression of medical and scientific facts.
"Thank you for your time."
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@sadolite
"It simply means progress is set in motion that may not provide ample opportunity or protection under law." Isn't that what I just said.
Sadolite said: I see, you are quoting the constitution and the rule of law. That shit don't exists anymore. I stand by my original comment.
The argument before the people and the Court of law is over a more perfect state of the union to established justice. What is basically said by a democratic majority is it can be to hard or impossible to make a connection between female reproduction and wording in United States Constitution. I sum up the impossibility with probability first by calling the process not pregnancy but immigration. What makes this immigration unique to law as a united state between all women is, “it takes place at state and Federal level at the same moment,” & “it as a direct influence on only the women’s life,” Meaning in combat this immigration can be use dagainst a nation but will only possibly kill her specifically as a weapon. The women are not a mother, but an ambassador assigned by law of nature until such a time as she is mother after birth as happend. It is conceded that this is not whole truth as there is at some point a condition in that a state of law can describe independent of the ambassador by law.
Making the conclusion that the United States Constitution is not protected, preserved, and defended by everyone is not a sign it has been destroyed, does not exist, or does not have influence of legislation of law and legislators of law. It reflects only in a process of ability as demonstrated by a person to perform the task or claim the task as performed by them. As truth,whole truth, and nothing but truth. To borrow a phrase from band “Pink Floyd, From: Dark side of the Moon, Song name: Us and them. Haven't you heard justice is a battle of words.”.
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@Vegasgiants
And therefore they are not persons but property.
Well, in whole truth, nothing but truth we say, the newborn is legal slave described by act of congress according to the United States Constitution. In keeping with truth, whole truth, and nothing but truth it is Female-specific amputations ( Not yet ratifide United States Constitutional Right) that is more capable of being legally regulated between states of law in much the same way as the admission now used inappropriately.
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@sadolite
I see, you are quoting the constitution and the rule of law. That shit don't exists anymore. I stand by my original comment.
People ignoring United States Constitutional Right of process of establishing states of the union does not mean those past states, current, or future states do not exist. It simply means progress is set in motion that may not provide ample opportunity or protection under law. There are two paths in politics serving United States Constitution which serves the people or serve self and through self-servethe people. I find path one is more problematic, less profitable, and requires a greater workloads, the plus it carries a much greater level of gratification when gotten right.
By all righs is the most powerful force yet created by legilstive law makers even at the high personal cost it has been an honor.
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@Vegasgiants
We count all persons every ten years and never count a fetus.
The United States Consitutional cencous does cout fetus as they are described property of ambassador a women.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, (whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for,) and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The appointment of a woman as Ambassador of the child she bears as immigrant is by what is otherwise provided for in American's Declaration of Independence.
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@prefix
Okay, so an SSN is a legal proof, but not a metaphysical proof.
I, second that motion. lol....................................
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@Vegasgiants
None of that is evidence of the fetus not being a person, itis only documentation of the fetus being a dependent person on its legally assignedambassador. By law of nature assumed by America that person is the mother, andmother only. We are arguing that political it was mistaken to allow abortioninto the ballot box and is a crime that will someday cost republican democrats.This means members of all politically associated parties.
When in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation
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@Vegasgiants
Yes. A fetus is not considered a person anywhere in the country
This is not true a fetus is considered a person in every country in the world, they are medically treated as a patient even though people morn loss differently it is a ways in life.
A fetus can beheld by United States Constitutional right, it is held to equal protection under law. As fact, truth, whole truth, and nothing but truth this process means the court mustofficially recognize the fetus as a "person" who can kill by use of lethal, even when the death is only ever one person, mother, Ambassador, and host to immigrant to a nation expecting mother. The word Abortion does not do women or men justice in this lackof equal protection under law, whereas equal protection under law does not only apply to those who are accused directly it implicates those who are accessory knowingly or not after the facts of crime take place.
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Apparently, the word abortion has never been clear enough in meaning to be used for a description of a medical procedure. Whereas Female-specific Amputation is and describes a much clearer term of medical procedure. Does it not?
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Not having a social security number is not a good method to determine nonexistence.
It is the best legal identification of citizenship used in court. Immigrants all apply for citizenship. The separation being made is over accusation of crime not existence. It is already noted that a pregnancy can kill only the mother andleave the father without physical harm. This is the fact and whole truth beforethe people and the Courts of law.
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@sadolite
Can someone translate this into something my weak mind can understand.
Don't know how week is your mind?
Part I
A ballot is anofficial document so if a subject matter on a ballot is illegal as a felonycrime the voter can be charged with that crime. If convicted the voter can beasked to pay a fine or can be removed from the voting process for a period. Insome cases if found guilty by the courts the voter or voters can both pay a fine and lose right to vote as a penalty.
As a person running for office the conviction may mean they are disqualified from the office they seek on top the fine and loss of voting privileges for a set period. Again, I apologizefor the harsh reality of how the whole truth sounds as voting was always asubstantial burden of intelligence and responsibility which held legal benefits and burdens on those who vote.
Part II
In America a group of people cannot separate the fact that all voters in America are held as Consitutional right both republicans and democrats at one time. There are no grounds to have election nominees of Democrats or Republican for political runoffs. The very idea of a voter being just democrat, or just republican in a Constitutional America is a confession to treason and is a matter for the court. It is an example of inappropriate legislation of law at a constitutional level. The added cost applied by this possible crime in delay, and money giving an appearance of a corrupt political system. The argument is complex but it is a real grievance of law and Constitutional right.
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All U.S. citizens can request a Social Security number. Some noncitizens may be able to request a number if they work or attend school, or if they have a valid nonwork reason.
Prefrix said: Show me oine valid source showing a fetus has not developed enough to be considered a valuable human.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Your whole argument is beaten by the fact that there are billions of people who are not citizens of the USA in the world, who are valuable humans.
I do apologize for the sensitive matter brought to bear in this point. We can only ever assume we are all capable adults willing to dealing with our own flaws as created as agroup.
Maybe... Let’s look at the facts. Are all the billions of people who are not citizens of America in the world in fact citizens of other countries though? Do the Countries have unborn young children documented as citizens before birth on a national lever with Identification showing as fact they are a Chinese, Russian, German, English, French person? I apologize as there are so, many nations to possibly list.
The question asked directly is does this condition describe a legal malpractice of law?
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@YouFound_Lxam
So according to this, what makes the 20-week-old fetus not valuable. I mean it has all of its defining characteristics laid out already.What specifically makes the 20-week-old fetus un-valuable.
It is not for us to know without the protection of the issuing of a search warrant.
Are you asking the wrong question: What makes the 20-week fetus a citizen of the United States of America? Is there a social security number that has been issued?
Pregnancy abortion is a United States Federal immigration issue and is held as that way by United State Consitutional Right of Female-Sepcific Amputation.
The health conditions of the contributor to the extension of life started as a human egg is not written in stone. What was done with interpretation of law by church and Courts across Europe and America by the Highly and maybe Over-Educated holds no bearings in the only fact and truth throughout the world. To be clear all of this debate is simply describing that a woman has been unable to come forward in 200 years on her own, and establish a United States Constitutional Right on the issue of dangers of birth as immigration, not that a United States Constitutional Right could not have been found, or can be found / created. Correct?
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@sadolite
The key to victory for the Democrats is arresting and jailing all possible challengers before election day.
We only need to befound guilty of a felony crime in the judicial system and we have all committed felony crime by simply voting in State and Federal election over the years. The question becomes does this outcome sound like a legal malpractice of law or not?
We can take the debate all the way an argue there is no soul democracy in America and every who is citizen is a Republican m ore precisely a Democratic Republican and "We the People of the United States of America" are held that way by Constitutional Right. So, do you understand your rights as it has been read to you? All Americans are Democrats, not just the people who make claims out loud they are the only democrats that matter.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Female-specific amputation Vs Pregnancy abortion
FSA argues that stopping an immigration that is not a citizen and threatens the women who is ambassador of the young life by law of nature does not warrant a self-incrimination written in law as it describes a lie as a orginized principle thatis a violation of United States Constitutional right to both immigrant and mother.
Pregnancy abortionis an old self-incrimination written as a medical treatment named prior to United States Constitutional rights. I am tired of not having the United States Constitution appropriately preserve, protected, and served by women and men alike.
The direction to takeis a formation of a nonprofit foundation which will seek the company names byfiling record in the District of Columbia and all states of all legal malpractice insurers by name plus litigators working as lobbyists alike both for and against abortion and file grievance as civil suit in a federal Court.
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The honest but extreme answer is a heartbeat according to science or medical doctor does not "ever" make thechild a citizen of the country a mother lives in during her pregnancy. All children become a citizen after birth as a result of that birth and the filing of legal documents not heartbeat before birth. Correct?
the year was to be written as 2001 not 20001.
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Just for the record the understanding is abortion is and has been found not innocent of crime by the Supreme Court, it is a process of illegal intention never correctly identified by the supreme court due to an invasion of American Constitutional privacy the crime creates. Which has now as of the year 20001 turned into violations of Federal and state patient privacy law. What this means for political candidates is the voters and the political figures alike who cast votes on the topic are taking part in a likely criminal act requiring a court trial to resume the idea of innocence. It can be taken as far as to say the days of atwo-part processes in election on the Federal level like Oval Executive officer are over if not numbered. All candidates for Oval Executive Office and Federal office are republican as a united state of consitutional right, higher law, and the election process for Oval Executive officer and Federal office should not be so time consuming with parties requiring unnecessary voter’s runoffs, it is detrimental to work required to address Constitutional legislation.
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@Vegasgiants
As the author of the debate the argument itself is flawed as democrats nor republican should have ever used abortion as a political viewpoint in elections. This is because of not only the Supreme Court’s ruling in 1973 in Roe Vs Wade. It has much more to do with American legislation of laws written for patient privacy which went into effect in 2000. Changing the wording used to an overall Constitutional idea describing not just a realistic treatment but it holds a level of privacy of treatment by women in such a way as to be more in line with up-to-date law and regulation. Abortionis a legislative dead term it is abolished by unratified constitutional right and legislated laws that ahve been placed in effect over a time period.
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My "position" is that there is a heart at 6 weeks gestation.
The child is not a citizen at 6 weeks gestation...The child is a patient at pregnancy and the privacy of the patient is under the athority of the mother by law of nature.
The National Institute of HealthThe Lozier Institute"Detection of Functional Changes of the Fetal Heart in the First Trimester of Gestation. " by Pinto de Avila MA, et al."When Does the Human Embryonic Heart Start Beating? A Review of Contemporary and Historical Sources of Knowledge about the Onset of Blood Circulation in Man""Embryonic heart activity: Appearance and development in early human pregnancy""Embryonic length, crown-rump length and fetal heart activity in early human pregnancy determination by transvaginal ultrasound."Nishantivf "No heartbeat at 6 weeks is a sign of miscarriage"HealthlineAmerican Public Health AssociationThe National Center for Biotechnology InformationPubMedThe National Library of MedicineThe Centers for Disease ControlThe US Deportment of HealthThe American Pregnancy AssociationMedical News TodayThe National Health Service of the United KingdomAmerican Journal of RoentgenologyThe Radiological Society of North America.
These are not biased agencies unless they have court filed documents of emancipation of the Child in question. Not only establishing the child is a court documented adult according to law, also as adult has a federal social security number and citizenship of a nation been issued? They, these people, witnesses are possibly self-incriminating against the state and federal crime of violation to patient privacy. Is the medical patient seeking asylum?
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Using abortion in political ways to gain attention is a very risky and is illegal pratice. The violation of laws pertaining to patient medical privacy takes place for both men and women.
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