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@Vegasgiants
The key to victory in 2024 for the democrats lies in abortion.

I'm sorry it was my understanding otherwise isn't this above statement the debate title?
We can rephrase it as the key for political victory is the consitutional inappropriate use of perjury by self-incrimination created by illegal legislationof law which violates patient privacy laws if you like? Yes, however we are to be debating what is to be presented as a more perfect state of the union with American Constitutional right as female-specific amputation. A K A  Abortion, as a fact "it" abortion does not legally exist in the context of legilsaiton of law in America nor has it been legally appropriate for legislation of law politically since 1973, becoming even more questionable ethically in 2000 as it violates patient privacy laws as well.    
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@Vegasgiants
To suggest a medical professional or institution suspendsmedical treatment or support medical treatment by term abortion is a violationof the patient privacy laws on state and federal levels. Sorry. There isnegligence in a proper translation of the judicial argument of abortion as itrelates to use in America. The cause of the issue is simple abortion was amedical procedure before the United States Constitution was written. So,the standard of bar guarding the legal rights of the people was much, muchlower as a practice.
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The Argument inAmerica at minimum as United States Constitutional Right, and the connection to female Pregnancy to Abortion as a so-called medical treatment. As a male it is a legal debate made between a woman, witnesses, and the local and federal government over immigration and not a argument of when does life start, or when medical treatment is said to begin, spite the use of human better human judgment and truth treatment of the very young child even begins medically before life starts in many cases.  Where there are legal grounds to describe a heartbeat connecting a very young child to living this is no legal reasons behind action taken describing the very young child as a citizen of America or any nation, yet. The doctor or medical institution has a legal obligation to file the proper litigation work, period. This simple but universal fact may contribute to the overall legal protection of a women and man as the creators of immigration by ensuring Female Specific amputation describes medical treatment. There is 100% no backing of any kind by the National Institute of Health to suggest that Pregnancy Abortion in legislation its proper legal term for treatment, educate takes an illegal side if notsimple poor judicial entrapment because of the possibility of a heartbeat. The United States Constitutional status of concern in all State of law and governing territories where legislation occurs remains untouched by facts. Intentionally? Is the question. The idea is just a money pit to national debt for state mandate by law to argue malpractice of law repeatedly throughout all civilcourts.

The supreme court’s recent decision to move abortion to lower courts is not valid as constitutional violations knowingly exist by the court but are not identified before a motion to dismiss prior Supreme court rulings are made. The child’s United States Constitutional right is not denied as it is held as tribunal between the mother and a limited few as she is the ambassador by law of nature to the child. The Executive officer of America holds no such powers of executive order to claim a child so young is a citizen it has precedent in law as a matter of emancipation.
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It is Female-specific amputation not abortion there has been one woman in America to have received an Abortion after 1973 as a wholetruth. No not one women. To say otherwise in legislation is possible perjury and is amatter for the Armed Services court as women are in Armed Service and can, have,and may yet be sexually against their terms of service to a nation and its united states consitution. This argument is going to be big and ugly and is way overdue.

 

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"when does the heart first exist" Again, doens't matter the issue judical grivance is loss of American Constitutional privacy and the focus is on immigration not pregnancy. It is incidental that only women can be part of this type of immigration in court. Not a type of pregnancy. " Will abortion issues result in a 2024 Presidential victory" The answer is no the voters in America no longer vote for a Presdient of the United States of America. The voter only votes for an Exsecutive officer and nothing more Article II is inappropriatly been altured and creates conflits of intrest in whole truth. I would agree this legal constitutional matter is well outside of this debate focus. 
It should be noted that an "Association of state lisensed medical Doctors" are not qualified to dictate a self-incriminating name of a medical treatmentthat has been already found in violation of United States Constitutional Rightsto privacy by the Supreme court. At the minimum in the United States of Americathe Constitutional right to both men and a united state of law and all women isFemale-specific amputation. A women's medical treatment is a female-specificamputation. For any medical records or legislation of law to say otherwise is aviolation of United States Constitutional right and laws of patient privacy.
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When life begins is not the legal issue at hand. Period. Doctor's, Scientists, and peopleall have not been instructed by rulings anyone outside the mother is legally moving for emancipation of the child before the courts. As a group by the stateor by individual child. The argument, as a legal grievance, has always been known before all state licensed judicial councils and the courts as a violation to constitutional privacy. The movement for federal and state courts of law had been requested due to the influence of legal malpractice these systems ofjustice both share as one legal state of the Union.
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According to my poll, it's entirely possible to have a right to abortion up to 14 weeks with exemptions pass Congress.

Possible not legal and therefor requires an executive order which has already been requested to be described as an arbitrary and capricious order. The grievance of pregnancy abortion as violation of United States Constitutional Right created by an invasion of privacy described by several supreme court rulings. Female-specific amputation is the challenge that is in competition for a judgment on a American Constitutional state of the union.

 There are many reasons for the grievance, both legal and moral to proceed within an American Armed Service Court law as pregnancy while in the service of our nation hasmore complex legal hurtles. Abortion demands the question to all officers as tothe command given a woman to confess to possible murder as a U.S.                    constitutional violation of privacy found by the Supreme court. A burden notrelieved by legal motion in any acting grievance filed by oval office of the United States. It should be also noted that the process medical term know as Pregnancy abortion is older than the united Sates Constitution itself giving a reason as to why it was not ever described in a American Constitutional way in the first place. Having nothing to do with discrimination itself as fact created by Articles of Constitution. Only the abilities of all those, ALL THOSE. who both before and after Oath's sworn to preserve, protect and serve loyalty to American Constitution failed.



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US debt has never caused us a problem
Do either of you consider democracy, Civil lawsuits, and medical treatments a part of GDP?
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In a brief summary.

The argument is that a form ofnational debt started the civil war as states began to print their own money.Looking back at the start of the Gold and Silver Standard, not all states hadgold or silver mines. Most states in America who had gold deposits had beenbought from Nations like Spain and France using Federal purchasing powers. TheGold and sivler by mineral rights was the property of the Federal Government and was soonused as a standard of collateral. At or during the times shortly before theCivil war credit was printted money the paper issued by state was an easy credit process andplaces credit in the hands of people in an economy in a theoretical sense only.The promise of money is then spent based on people that do not have a historyof supporting the rating they are assigned by spending formulated elsewhere inan economy.

For the sake of simplicity, Iwill not go over details of how Wars between Nations on the continent of Africabetween English, German, French, and Spanish plaid into the hands ofprivateers. Placing POW in the hands of private citizens, some by investinglimited funds and others using finance banking loans affected credit during thetimes before the Civil War. Not disagreeing about bad and poor overall treatmentsof military forces held captive in private hands. Only that it is an argumentworthy of its own focus. This all just another example of adequate or inadequatePresidential abilities to leadership of American United States Constitutionalrights
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@FLRW
So you are saying ‘Do you really believe the moon is not there when you are not looking at it?
LMAO...thank you I needed a good laugh........

No, the earth's moon is orbiting the earth even when we are not looking at it. I am asking anyone a direct question does zero and negative numbers exist in a list of natural numbers? It is not a hard question to answer, is it?. I even think my question is more foolish than yours mocking me, I get it though, I know the answer to my question already, like most people who has studied grade school mathematics know the answer and just forget. The answer is no zero and negative numbers do not exist in a list of natural numbers as the list goes from 1 - infinity. When natural numbers do not exist we lose zero and negative integers conditionally throughout any theorem. F.Y.I  this is why some physcisist had concern about following German scientist, after the end of WWII down the mad hatters rabbit whole of atomic bomb testing...

I'm sorry I should have just said natural numbers in physics are a fabrication. I didn't.
I'm also sorry as time is also set by natural numbers and holds no zero or negative numbers to say so is ALSO fabrication. 
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The Higgs boson does not technically give other particles mass. More precisely, the particle is a quantized manifestation of a field (the Higgs field) that generates mass through its interaction with other particles.
Fancy way to say creates a magnetic pull that cannot be distantiated because of quantizing.
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@FLRW
Boson rotation is mass what is not fact is a boson rotation being zero or negative number, spinning counter clockwise does not make a natural number a negative number. The non existence of natural numbers does not exist in a quantum state, it is a fabrication. It is a key and the most damming fact in Physics made against Einstien's theories set by gedneral and special realtivity.
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\/\/\ = sine-wave pattern fermions and bosons ---not Gravity or Dark Energy--
The Achilies heal is still the Sine-wave is made in a 90 degree line on a round object diameter of energy in geometry, whereas the round object of energy radiates fource outward in a curve around the energy form as it changes states of energy. Meanwhile the tangent line is the line set on a curve waveform in a unrealistic way to describe a connection to time. The sine wave is mesureing the distance between times of fource of a radiating energy not the waveform of energy which is a circumference pulsing as a level of the energy source?
@ ebuc 
Does form follow function and vice versa? Yes magnetism is attractive, yet its attraction is distinct from Gravities mass-attraction.
Magnetism like gravitational motion works in two directions unlike the laws of motion describing inertia and centrifugal force. As magnetism is electrically based and the motion if electric is based on the outside of mass we can within reason assume a 4th law of motion can be written to describe these two events as one creation of motion in two circumstance of all mathematics. The observation of the two mathematic circumstance are geometry and trigonometry as these two forms of math hav shared a use of natural numbers entwined in their praticality.
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2 I have no idea what a "missing quantum nmber" is, nor do I know what linear or "non-linear" gravitons are.

@ ebuc Zero and all negative numbers these are the missing "quantum numbers" as they are questioned by trigonometry and geometry as to be translated into algebra. They are added at the very small scale of quantum physics . Even though such things said linear like gravitations are simply not separated as a type of magnetism yet. Not openly or honestly described, this does not even looking into the issues created by sine and cosine of mathematics which as  waveforms in their relationship to curved lines of time. Here it is the lack of inverse calculus which has been exploited for decades at the cost of sound calculations in all mathematics. Which is to simply what your are saying is done by calculating atomic time as possibly linear in theory. People can and I have done specifically such thing already in establishing Pi as a value approximating of 3.14159 is by fact not ratio of 3:1. No such ratio exists in Physics of a curved line held inside the circumference of less than 4:1 ratio. Chords being a key made in this calculation describing the last know chord of all circumference a diameter.

@FLRW  it is time which is non-linear and its translation mathematically which is correctly made or not in a way that makes sense in math. Linear waveforms might be measured as linear but are still exposed by gravitation to having a risk of being noted as electro magnetism. There is not calculus that has addressed the make-up in energy between magnetism and gravitation. In mathematic calculations black matter is a name given to a state of mass that is held by gravity in a plastic state in a temperature range of zero or less regardless of mass. 
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Just say what macro infinite is........." ? "
@sedvictor4

The understanding of macro infinite is when someone a programmer or person like ebuce is using a floating point number system with infinite decimal value for computer simulation program that is meant to produce a value which always rounds "up positive" in their work. The value is not crossing the zero boundaries so is not negative ever provable as negative but relies only on laws of motion which are said not to exist anymore according to Einstein's Physics. It is this process that he then uses to describe detail in measuring something without defined logical boundaries in the first place. A curved line does not ever go on infinitely, why? It is curved, and it crosses a boundary of where it has started. Every decimal value that increments past the decimal away from a natural or whole number has in scale crossed a zero boundery is some way.

What ebuc is doing is demonstrating precisely how and why natural numbers are used in math ratio, algebra is not rightfully equipped and why algebra is not equipped. The curved line when in motion, display of energy will at some point start over at one rotation. Never zero like all linear path. The idea of a floating number that is expanding forever in scale is false because scale can be calibrated even sycronized,(hint) thus, time was a geometic mathematic controbution made by navigation called time.

So, if you are following this in the slightest and are looking at a way to prove a negligence in mathematics where do we look, and how? We look at atomic time and the idea of using a tangent on a sine and cosine wave. By the way we can use trigonometry in a very similar way to calculate the circumference of a circle describing the circumference of all circles to have a negative value when in synchronization with the three dimesions of space of any ratio equal or lower the 3: "some value." Some background I was doing this work in math not for the clock to help with the forecast prediction of earthquakes but rather for a better national debt clock. I find the prinicples of the current clock in use to be lacking under scrutiny of detailed mathematical and visual observation.
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lol.................I just have to say this if all things are relative general relativity is by fact limited by its own relation ship to all things being of limit of percision.
No, relative to the universe an atom is not tiny. As we observe an free floating atom in space by use of micro-scope that can be used by a person standing-up the universe is obsucred by the size of the atom. As fact you are speaking of in scale to a universe an atom is tiny. We can also say in proportion to a universe the atom is tiny. The point mathematics makes against general relativity is not all things are relative forby motion or scale may things are obscured from view by other objects which are by facts of both mass and volume much smaller. 
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Can I just say, it, the universe has no standard of real measurement? Isn't that all we are saying, the universe has no measurement thus, is not real.  Universe the Galaxy-complura.
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And John is now suggesting barely graspable speculation.....AKA theory.
Barely graspable speculation? If you believe natural numbers are different then real numbers is speculation Wow! are you heading toward a big wall to crassh into...
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I do not mean this in a smart a$$ way but a multi-verse cannot exsit because a uiverse does not exist, yet! We just barly have grasp of a Galaxies and that is decribed to us as simply millions or billions of stars with gas, dust, and gravity. "Gravity a speculation" ... As a joke this means we spill peto-B (the pink stuff) in space and we can lose a whole Galaxy. A universe must have a describable size or condition to be repeated more than once. Thus, enter math and it is not is not rocket science it is calculus...?? Maybe? Or Time?

To also add a observation time is proportional only in one direction in math as there is question in precisely looking at minutes in a second, or hours in a minute that create irrational values of real numbers. Also Keep in mind how Ebuc uses Sine and Cosine waves found in trigonometry describing Physics theory of in the realm of speeds of light and the motion as variation by oscilloscope readings.  We are missing a necessary tool needed to accurately  read a form of wave that travels in a circumference around a energy source outward. The linear path of such waveform is curved it is the gaps in time that holds the straight lines in a wave form -v-^-v-^-v-^-v-^-v-^- not time itself.

"I had spoke earlier of a finger print of time, or DNA if you like where time is the monomer of all curve the irrational number braking the state of natural numbers be made with the number 7 in curve of a proportion 360 degrees becomes either 105 degrees, 210 degrees while held by a complete curve circumference, yet, 360 / 7 is real number, not natural number setting a different variation of natural and real numbers than space." A pending Patten right on a device of such kind as to display information of this type in an observable way by simulation would require there be mathematic most likely copy written formulas to assist a computer. Keep in mind the computer itself would require custom binary code as well as the new math.


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According to the fourth law of motion, where each motion need to have it’s own impact, the causes of motion of our galaxy as well as other galaxies could be easily found. For that, we need to know the Chain Bang Theory which was presented by the author in 2012 as an alternative to the Big Bang Theory.
As a general point of understanding I try not to speculate on the creation of something that is not mathematically fixed. As it does not in fact exist by technicality. Gravity or energy can be more easily argued to exist in math.
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You are in fact wecome to contest the law.

Fourth law of Motion states. "Gravitythe combined energy of elasticity, modulation, and reverberation in whichobjects of mass can both repel or attract as motion, based on how those threeforces interact. With themselves and the other three laws of Motion."

We can go on to state with clarity that the fourth law creates its own resistance as accumulated mass applying the first law to the fourth law. Keep in mind the laws of motion are set by the exsitence of mathematic with numbers and mathematic proofs and need no scientific experiment conformation to be law, as law is not theory. Also to complicate the contesting the formula of energy is done without Pi and uses calculus based on a circles numerous chords and not one chord the last and longest chord a circle holds. Not listed here.

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This is the problem... A sine and cosine wave are to be taken on a cuved line created by the geometric shape of the soruce of energy, the atomic reaction or sun?
Do we all see the sun as sphere?

The sun's enery radiates out in a curve around the shape of the sun itself. Two straight lines are just not going to work in mathematics like promised by Physics theory. 
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I made it clear, " I wrote a fourth law of motion describing gravity as a motion not  Isaac Newton"... Contest my 4th law of motion based on geometry law, I am all ears... When ever you are ready. I am taking liberties as non had been offered in the world of educational institution.

I also made it clear, Einstein's general relativity Newton's law of gravity are both  wrong for at lest one  common reason the irrational state of Pi used in describing the force held in a circle it cannot be used in any caluclations which are expecting a result by integer. This means there is no Newton's law of gravitation a law of math would require a answer can be made by calculation. The implication made by FLRW was laws of motion written by Isaac Newton based laws of physics, no they had not been based on laws of physics.  People mistake Newton's law of gravity with laws of motion, maybe but sop what? What I said and repeat now is that Newton's law's of motion are not based on "physics law's" as this is a foolish claim unrelated to fact. The laws of motion are based on calculus and trig law. His own principles of mathematics I might add. Mine are also based on laws of Trig, Geometry, and Calculus as a effort to offset a series of mistakes taking place not just a issue of Pi being an observable approximation. Time riddles a lot of Algebra and Trigonomentry with errores due to a use of natural numbers to which the gedneral public ignores, not correts changing natural numbers to real numbers.
 
What is the two decimal number you are talking about?
The second of a clock is a two decimal number 1.01 seconds is 0.0166.1 < --- Here is space-time, the ripples in the universe starts here. The second is a decimal value that had been converted to a ratio and requires that it be translated back to decimal before adding a decimal  to it so to re-cap adding, subtracting, multipling or devision into the second all create the same problem. This is grade school math the mistake is made at and is a long way from Trigonometry, calculus, and physics. Also as fact the process of devision alone does not ensure a factor integer is fit to be a ratio they are either ratio or approximation.

How many hours are in one minute? 0.0833? (A second :01)
How many minutes are in one second? 0.0166? (A minute :01:01)         (0.032876712: 0.0833: 0.01667) a general but long translation of (12:00:00)

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If something remains theoretical, then it does so. If a theory is proven, then it is no longer a theory.
This is not consistently true a theory can remain a theory as long as it is written as a theory proof is not reivant. We astablish that with the theory of Gedneral Relativity E = Mc ^ 2 is the theory, but, G  ≈ Mc ^ 2  is no longer theory it is a law of mathematics. According to Eienstien and the field equation written by he these formulas are the same principle. One written as thoery, one written as mathematic law.

I do understand the principle behind the point made theory has a self-evident limitaction it is theory. So thoery however are written as so they can never be proven true we are only capalble of finding the math error which creates them. The error which perpetuates Genderal Relativity is Space-Time. Where is space time in mathematics? Right here it is (0.016.1 - 0.018.333etc.) <--------  this is space time. The gamble or bet was that no- one would find the mathematic error. We also call Space time a nano-second which is also written as 1.001 seconds or 0.016.1 seconds. <-----Just how smart does that real look like? We can write it as ( 12: 00: 01.1) it at least looks correct. 

Where does Einsien's space-time exist? It exists at Einstien's error not by his own creationbut by his own neligence or incompetence. The ratio of time 12: 00: 00 does not have decimal points. The comuter age created the nano-second and it is not a principle found in the geometry of time created in nature. The principle of time having an ability to be made around a artifical horizon is not the same as people adding a decimal point arbitralliy to a ratio. There are more then one error in math which influence the theory of Gedneral Relativity. The errors are not made in algebra alone the errors are also made in basic grade school math something everyone should understand.

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Isaac Newtons work on the law of gravitation was first Calculus and Trigonometry not physics, as was the three laws of motion. Second the law of gravity is calculated using Pi as well as subject to errors in algebra due to an abuse of natural numbers in algebra calculation. Gravity is the fourth law of motion as we know for fact objects that attract in proportion to mass or magnetic field are sharing three types of motion. 1. Energy in the form of motion called Modulation. 2. Energy in the form of motion called Reverberation. 3. Energy in the form of motion called Elasticity.

Time translation symmetry has a very serious basic grade school issue of math with how physics are applied in theory. The theory applications are on top of decimal infromation in calculation of time. The ratio if time is well described as 24:60:60 this value in truth cannot have a decimal placed in the ratio. Ever! To add what is said to be greater accuracy of the ratio by placing a decimal value is a error of mathematics. Grade school mathematics. In order for Time Translation Symmetry to exist it must be explained by physics first openly in a paper of peer review how the two decimal position number can exist in math. (0.016.1) where in energy is this number located, please? As for the Pentagon intelligence lets start with the question of calculating the number that describes the decimal proportion of day in a hour, or the decimal proportion of hour is second.

But then this is about the tenth time I have had this debate with ebuc, the one-hundred thousandth time with anyone with the grade school level of intelligence necessary to have a answer of fact, yet, nothing. Crickets...........Can you tell me where this two decimal number is located other then in the physics world of magical time FLWR?
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The issue is Time and space are laws of Mathematics not theory, some treate time and space as theory. There is  difference when the law of Time can be broken it is not ruled over like laws if justice, justifed the question is does the process of change made on time itself in fact hold the law of time equal after the violation of mathmatic law occures? You call both time and space theory because well physics calls them theory. The issue of truth here is that physics call everything theory regardless of that statement be true or not. It is physics which is mathematicaly alturing time and space to be the same object not caring that time is three different things and space is a observation of area.

The issue of the GOD principle is the principle is expected GOD to be held a religion. There is a expectation that is not law.

Theories are provenall the time...G.R.  E = Mc^2is theory but as fact written as theory as G = Mc^2 due to the fielded equationof G.R. the theory of G.R is made law by addressing the errors in mathematicsset by physics and rewrite G.R. as G ≈ Mc^2. Why is G.R now law? It is lawbecause gravity was and is on both sides of the linear equation here are found by use ofirrational number. This means the equation will never have a precise integer asanswer.
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As far as we are able to know there cannot be a beginning. Because how can something begin, If there is nothing to begin with.
Elementary my dear zedvictor4, elementary, an arc is the beginning of a circumference , a cup is the beginning of a sphere, the circumference is the beginning of natural numbers,  and the end of possibilities of infinity. Humanities discontent for the restraints  of order brings us space which rain down irrational numbers on all fact of numerical value known to man. Here we are stuck in the middle with a pencil with two points and no eraser. All we need now is the added pressure of breaking one of the two pencil points. Energy never destroyed changing form.

And where was the water?
lol .... where was the water you ask, it was describing  Genesis with FLRW
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Would Time and Space have any less potential?
Yes time and space would have far less potential. Space as the universe would simple only hold the means to earths end and not a beginng for all people. Time is a measurment on three object simaltaneously in a more precise proportion then space, with or without people time can not exist unless the comparison of the objects is made. As theory physics is trying to establish artifical horizon and tap the location of gravity.

A little more background zedvictor4 I have written a law of motion for Gravity to describe a observation of geometric shape and how a sphere might form in a vacuum with far less matter to create wear on matter which forms of much greater desity then the vacuum which surrounds it.  Fourth law added on Newton's Laws of Motion states. "Gravity the combined energy of elasticity, modulation, and reverberation in which objects of mass can both repel and attract, based on how those three forces interact." To share observation made on work habit it is possible Isaac Newton had written the three laws of motion based on the movement within numbers during mathmatics itself and only held this observation of numbers as movements in equations against observation made in astronomy.

The issue of physics is that space-time is a shadow only made in mathematics as a ghost in the machine, this shadow is cast into reality by tools used to make observations on things we can naturally see by human eyes but rather observe from great distance recorded on machinery with a question looming on their conditions of being properly calibrated devices. This is not about A.I.  Again, this is a issue of people using mixtures of natural numbers in combination with real numbers in algebra without regard as to which is which number. a + b  =  a + b which (a) is natural number? which (a) is the real number? we cannot cancel like terms. The rule only states that both (a)'s are to be considered constant. We can also look at the total removal 3.14159 as precise ratio by calculus describing boundaries of circumference by Chord. The diameter of a circle is simple one of many chords held in circumference.

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lol.........Do you know it is time which was found and used to created lines of longitude they are in contradiction to the lines of latitude which are created by a magnetic field and a magnetic compass. This is not imagination it is geometry and trigonometry.

I hope I didn't get this backward I do often if so, sorry.
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Time is imaginative thinking. 
I can agree with this to some exstent. Time however doesn't look like any one thing as it is a combination of three elements that are found throughout the universe.

Though I suppose TIME, to a greater extent all depends upon the purity of word and how we might corrupt it. 

lol.........Do you know it is time which was found and used to created lines of longitude they are in contradiction to the lines of latitude which are created by a magnetic field and a magnetic compass. This is not imagination it is geometry and trigonometry.

Okay this may bring back memories of who I was for ebuc. When last we had been descussing our principles ,I had described to him that Atomic Clocks have a decimal infration in its aplicatioin of time. This is not a imaginary problem and there is now a second issue I have uncoverd while to correcting the first issue for work I am doing in realtionship to synconize time in such way as to forcast Earthquakes and deep space navigation. Time is a gometric device of navigation.

Simply said space looks like a flat plane with ripples when mathmaticaly translated because of the numbers of decimal infrations and their pattern of repetition in the mathmatics use to measure space and not time. 

Whereas time when left mathematically uncorrupted had its own specific figurpints of decimal mathematic infraction. See time is already a decimal which is then held in precise mathmatic proportion and could not be added to Einstiens or Newtons work mathmatically without significant changes made to Algabra, Geometry, and trigonometry.

In conclusion, as my work can help ebuc's own work in some ways or not. The second mathmatical grievance of great concern I have located is the lack of clear understanding of natural numbers in algabra. In calculus we describe space with letters like x, y, and z which describe variables in math. It is letters high in the alphebet like a,b,c,d etc that descibe are constants. However in case you do not understand the basic it is natual mumbers which describe if a zero or negativbe numbers can be equated in algabra. 
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plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena.

the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality

a proposition (as in mathematics) before it has been proved or disproved


of, relating to, or being a mechanism or device in which information is represented by continuously variable physical quantities

. Time does not lookthe same in all three dimensions of space when observed from a dimension ofspace. Time appears as a circle, a vertical line, and a horizontal line. I willgo into detail as detail is requested. Time is a Geometric equation of three objectsdrawn as one objest.  The three objects which are chosen are universal and are locatedeverywhere in the observed universe.
. Einstien's space-time is believed to be relative. It is howver proven as fact a error in algabra which has created it as it the error has been made part of Einstien's field equaitoin.

 Zedvictor4 ebuc is talking aboutphysics, whereas I am talking about errors shared in Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry,and Calculus which affect physics.

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In the begining GOD created both heaven and earth and while in the dark of heaven hovering over water said "let there be light."
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Time and space are just descriptions of the potential we observe relative to matter.
Here is the kick time is proportional to enery. It is a mathmatic description of a physics event. That event is energy.

If our universe is limited by a finite space then what do you imagine beyond?
The issue here is a sphere has infinite travle around a circumference.  What would gather at the end of ""space"" is by navigation energy in a state of change.
As I see it, math is created by a thinker, and in that context math is just another representation or calibration of potential.
Math as used for astronomy is a means to an end of navigatioin.  Math is a science which has its own flaws which are to be corrected to reach potential.

ebuc and I go back.He does not agree with my fourth law of motion that describes gravity. calculusonce corrected of error explains the way objects mover to describe gravity as a clear common universal motion in proportion to energy.
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First thanks forallowing me to join the debate... it is appreciated.
If space isn't an infinite potential  then what happens?
Said in the simplestway we as people are held to the physics standard of visible observation. In amore complex and intriguing answer the idea of the Universe is describedsimply by time, it is not space-time. It is simple just time which is calibrated in thecorrect way, or it is not syncronized to establish precision in a act of perfection. The idea is very simple, it starts with a time-zone (01-00). 

Or space as we seethe universe by fact round and begins and ends at or on location. The onlyobstruction to truth being will the energy of where motion begins being equalto the energy at the location that we fulfill a circumference of travel.

What is beyond space if not more space?
All that is beyond space is time.
All that is beyond time, is a perfect sycronization of time.
The argument raisedto me is that infinity does not exist all that exists in math is "google" whichwas the short name given to the last largest number before we can count nohigher by observation.
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The infinite potential for an infinite number of universes in an infinite space is infinite......This is perfectly logical
It is not logical, it is presumptuous, it is a truth, it isnot a reasonable truth. Space is not infinite due to just size numerical issues set in all described parts of space that should be measurable by science are not preciselymeasurable by science and must be approximated by humans. Infinite uses anapproximation itselfs going along well with the princples of measured space when performed for money. So, let’s rephrase your conjecture. (To approximate, forapproximating, by variables and not constant numbers is vast.) This is a truthnot a reason of logic to follow. What it is can be described as a gamble and nothing else. Somuch so in fact people can simply corrupt mathematic princiles like time, algabra, trigonetry, and geometry to acomidate calculus avoiding neccesary constants.

The letters X, Y, and Z are used to describe the dimensionsof space in algebra because they are variables and not constants.
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Ex .."time is the only dimension" vai Bucky Fuller is good, as far as our pyhsical reality is concerned ergo observed { quantised } time, that associated with the sine-wave patterning resultant inside the tube ---i.e. volmetric body of the tube---  of quantum space-time tori and associated with triangular { structural } numbers.
None have ever offered any shred of evidence that would invalidate the logical common sense critical thinking to arrive at my quantum space-time conclusion regarding tori. No it is not the whole story in those regards, but that part regarding tori is.
The start is at Einstein’s theory of General Relativity asit can be correct quickly to a mathematic law. The theory states E = Mc^2c and because of the conditions set by Einstein’sown field equation it is to be written as mathematic law in the following way (E ≈ Mc^2 ). The proof of this is the observation ofenergy as gravity set as the basis of Einstein’s field equations. Earth, earth’smoon, and the sun are all round as a geometric shape mathematically, and Pi isonly ever explained in one side of Einstein’s field equation. Thus we correct theorywith mathematical law and use the approximation symbol instead of the equalsign to then accurately and truthfully describe the field equation.

From here we then move on to highlight Einstein’s seconderror in mathematics which is his understanding of time and the use of naturalnumbers over the use of real, rational, irrational., integers, and wholenumbers in his attmeps at calulus. More specifically their incorrect use in base operations of algebra, geometry, andtrigonometry and why additional rules had been warranted, if not written new mathmatic law and new mathematic calculation processes. The point made as proof here all natural numbersand a circle are clear in that there is no zero in a number rotation, no zero meanssimply no negative numbers to be used in all integers of algebraand other calulation and it is this error which decribes the misinflmationi of principle space-time.

I am going to conclude my first introduction into the discussionwith an understanding of time in relationship to dimension. Space simply hasthree dimensions and has several mathematics drawbacks when it comes to its ownscaling process. The natural conditions can even be described as uncorrectablethus a need for additional fix equations in algebra, time is not like this ithas a similar issue as space, but the condition is contained in a natural order,and it is this principle which offers the best prospects for advanced mathematicsguidance. In conclusion the fact that time is multi-dimensional and as fact theonly two limits are a natural numerical conflict and scientific conditions ofproper mathematical synchronization.
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The argument of the legality of abortion is limited by the decision of Roe Vs Wade and was set by law as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy. Texas Senate Bill 8 (Texas Heartbeat Act) States an abortion is illegal after the findings of a heartbeat the problem is an abortion is illegal before the finding of a heartbeat. Abortion is illegal when found in legislation of law. The crime does not take place afterwards, Texas Senate does not address the unconstitutional imperfect union of the word abortion in writings of law. The Argument of law before all Courts in the land is the use of the word abortion in law perjury, an untrue statement as an abortion is illegal the moment it is written into law, or is a description written or said to be documented on medical records. 
After conception the process of abortion is over for the women and a female-specific amputation is the medical term for treatment by medical staff as a truth, as a fact, and as a whole truth.  The abortion stop is no longer valid after conception which also in truth, while conception is not the beginning of life but its point of extension. The heartbeat also is not the beginning of human life and is one of several medical means to establish medical treatments. The ovum – fetus is part of the women’s body she is an ambassador. Texas Senate has been introducing a foreign argument of law into American United States Constitution for over 50 years.  An international legal argument that is a lie and does not belong in legislation of law at any point of legislation in a united states Constitutional union. The State of Texas is arguing over maintaining an accusation that has a person accused themselves of a crime for being the recipient of a medical treatment, without cause. Texas, wake up and smell the coffee the word abortion is not even a legal choice to make in describing a situation of truth.
There are two different argument taking place First is a violation of the 5th Amendment of American, The Second a suppression of a united state of law between the Federal Government and the States Governments where birth is not a medical process alone it is an immigration process as well.  Meaning it does not qualify as only the hosting State issue of law by legal precedent the Federal Government is a legal binding partner. Part of this issue is held in the Constitutional argument of citizenship and birth and illegal immigration as a whole.
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