Arkhamafia DP1

Bruh what? I’m playing against my wincon if I willingly get mod-killed.

You didn’t think this through.

Also, why has Supa not revealed his JOAT abilities yet? Why would a TP Supa care what his abilities are and hide them? He’s already outed as TP

working out a proper post now

I may be missing details on the conversation with Pie, but if he's willing to be lynched I imagine that would be good to further the game.

Also I'm good with character / role claiming myself if people want.

Does your discord DM from That2 talk about any other characters beside your own?

People will inevitably pressure you into it, but it'd be an error to offer it up immediately. If you're a power role, then you tell scum to target you; and if you're not, then you help zero scum in on those who are.

No I don't think so

I'm still new, what do you mean by power role /scum?

Your message should have your character name in it. Read it and tell us. Your pm should have what your powers are. Read it and tell us. Your PM should have your alignment in it. Read it and tell us. 

I would recommend active participation in the game rather than claiming.

I don't think your plan has any point to it. It seems to have the same effect as lynching him, but with extra steps.

Did I not post them in my claim?

My abilities are 1x Killing Joke (which is a 1x Vig), 1x Laughing Gas, (1x Jailer), and 1x The Escape (1xdeathproof during the night/day phase) Note with this I am not sure if it is passive for not with the Escape

Also, these roles are labelled what they are and classified in my PM. It does not specify what type of role they are

Thanks for confirming.

Without the vig, your plan is indistinguishable from a lynch. If Pie is modkilled, then essentially we lynched him, and if he isn't, then we would just lynch him the next DP.

With vig, it does save us a lynch, so it may be worth doing.

But on the other hand, a TP with a vig shot and a deathproof? That sounds very much like a hostile TP.

Power role means that you have a role that does something in the night. Scum is slang for mafia.

Again, the plan doesn't really make sense to me.

If Pie's lying, he hammers the lynch and ends the DP. That doesn't mean he's automatically scum, since he could be covering for a different role as town, TP or scum. That might lead to an opportunity for Pie to confirm his actual role in the next DP, but since you've said you'll just Vig him during NP1, you've made clear that he won't be given the opportunity because you'll presume him to be scum. If he's scum, that's great, but if he's not, then we might be looking at 3 town/town-aligned TPs biting it over the course of DP1/NP1.

If Pie's telling the truth, then he just gets modkilled. That's not the biggest of deals since he's a TP, but he's also skewing the numbers in favor of town. That2 said as much in response to WyIted - town won't automatically lose if it loses its majority, meaning that either or both you and Pie (depends on if we believe both of you and how each of your TPs align) are automatically counted as a part of that majority. In this case, we're confirming that Pie was effectively a part of the town majority, meaning that we'll still be down 2 assuming an NK goes through. That's the least bad of these options, since it doesn't result in a potential mislynch/NK/Vig all hitting town/town-aligned TPs, but it's a stretch to call that beneficial.

I just generally don't love the strategy. It's also complicated by the fact that it requires that a majority of us be on the same page about being willing to lynch Pie if he doesn't do it. It's nice that the Vig would at least partially confirm you if you use it, but doing so doesn't require that we get Pie to attempt to hammer.

It sounds as though you're not supportive (at least for now) of pushing a lynch on Pie due to suspicions about his claim, though I'm not clear on why you're supporting a later lynch. If either or both of these TP claims are real, That2 has pretty much confirmed that they count as part of town when it comes to determining when the game ends. Assuming there are two scum, for example, and that that total does not increase (Pie was a converter scum during the last game and therefore added to the number of scum on his team by converting a town player), the number of town players + TP players would have to be at or less than two for the game to end with a scum victory. Losing a TP player would therefore negatively impact town. I can understand this choice if you don't trust Pie's claim, but not so much if you do.

For the time being, I would prefer that you claim neither your character nor your role.

I have a role that can confirm another role of mine in DP1, I need to just confirm if I can use it now

MY 3RD ABILITY IS A DEATHPROOF IN DP1/NP1! My ability is confirmable this DP. Instead of Pie, we should pivot toward me to confirm my role. I also don't want to waste this ability by not getting targeted in the NP

This confirms that I am telling the truth about what my abilities are

Well I just got a notification that it is for any DP/NP. I'm still willing to try it out but this gives us leeway

I don't think that would help very much. It would confirm that you have a deathproof role, but role confirmation is not affiliation confirmation. You could be a friendly TP, a hostile TP, or even mafia, and be deathproof.

It is better than nothing.

Why didn't Sups out his Deathproof ability right away?

I suppose it would prove that you aren't a serial killer or a werewolf.

Are we just praying that crystal and Corey are scum. Otherwise we have a completely inactive town and it's impossible to win.