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I think RM's dichotomy here between me and Pie doesn't make sense
All of this DP doesn't make sense, RM is all in on theme splits with Pie being scum while Pie is convinced that RM is anti-town town, with Pie saying to RM to stop tunneling and scum hunt-did Pie say how to scum hunt? All I've seen is the vote to scum hunt based on behavior but I haven't seen anything beyond this


As far as I'm concerned, this comes down to behaviors
What behavior? You noted RM being erratic, Supa being noncommittal and isolating what you say to sus you, what else have you noticed?

 (e.g. his going from pointing out that I'm behaviorally consistent with town to arguing that I'm a prime suspect who needs to full claim this DP)
Yeah this makes 0 sense, saying you town in #258  then wanting you to claim, looks like RM really wants this theme split to be known


We shouldn't be basing any decisions at this point on theme splits.
If you really feel it's necessary to out one of us, then put us at L-1. 
I don't like this, you don't think it's a good idea, yet you pushing to be L-1d? What do you want to do to avoid this outcome we shouldn't be doing? Why L-1? Why not L-2?

I don’t think we will find the theme split this early, regardless of how many of us claim. Chances are, we won’t figure out the theme split at all until we lynch scum. Focusing so much on theme analysis has led us astray far more often than it has helped us, especially if scum has fake claims available to them. 
Who do you think is scum besides Supa?
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Last post is to you I didn't @
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RM: Heavily focused on finding theme splits, antagonizing wf who he thinks is town to claim, believes Pie is scum, wants us to be active
Pie: Communicates heavily with RM saying RM is anti-town with tunneling him/hyper-focusing on theme split "Let's scum hunt RM", vote based on behavior 
Supa: Thinks wf is sus 
wf: Thinks Supa is sus
GP: Thinks Supa/That2 is scum team
Earth: ??? 


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But if I hit town pr at least I can confirm myself
You can confirm you role, not your affiliation…
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I think you are town, just use your power wisely, cause you could possibly lose the game for town.
Assuming this game is role madness and therefore That2 is scum, do you think RM would be scum or town with his role?
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RM and Pie have been directing a lot of the discussion in this DP and there's been very little cohesiveness behind any mode of action here.
It's possible RM and Pie = mafia team with their constant fight dominating this whole DP, I haven't seen Pie disengage and them being opposed in the opening makes RM look like anti-town town and Pie as town if you side with Pie, misting all of town to think both = town, though it is most likely at least one if not both = town given their mutual dedication to activity, especially RM, I fear this possibility tho

As far as I'm concerned, this comes down to behaviors

We need to deeply look into behaviors, in the most likely case mafia is sitting back benefitting by the RM vs. Pie conflict and flying undetected, I feel you town

If I believe you and me to be town with RM and Pie this leaves Supa, GP, and Earth by P0E, and I highly doubt GP and Earth will be on the same mafia team
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@RationalMadman
I literally have been trying to have town engage with me and explore the theme.
Explore the theme…by voting Pie. Give me a break dude.

I have no idea why you're blaming me for the rest of you being shit at keeping activity going and getting disinterested, that's hardly my responsibility. Get others interested yourself or stfu. LOL!
You’re a horrible persuader
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If you could vote one person right now, who would it be.
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@RationalMadman
So, enlighten us how we will find the theme split if you, Pie and Supa stay hidden.
We don’t? Scum could have fake claims or know the theme as WF mentioned. This early it’s useless until we have a known flip.
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@ILikePie5
Assuming this game is role madness and therefore That2 is scum, do you think RM would be scum or town with his role?
The vanilla and the vanillaizer, do you believe I'm scum?
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@RationalMadman
Town gets the advantage, what advantage scum get from you claiming if you're town is next to 0 at this point, 4 people are outed, 3 yet to out, it's Town that wants to the outing to happen to crack the theme.
This is just straight up a lie. Scum get far more utility than town.
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The vanilla and the vanillaizer, do you believe I'm scum?
I’m asking a hypothetical. Let me finish reading and I’ll get back to this
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If you could vote one person right now, who would it be.
Based on P0E, Supa
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@ILikePie5
It's likely rm has a town role
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@RationalMadman
If my reads are correct, it is plausibly a Pie Whiteflame team (yes both refused to claim).

Thematically, I would then presume Mharman did it like this:

Town - nutjob conspiracy theories (stuff associated with people who truly are off their rocker and that the right-wing are known for)

Scum - sensible conspiracy theories

This would explain why the scum is hesitating, since the theme split is confusing even to them and even if they figured it out before this post of mine, it's not easy to pick out another batshit conspiracy theory that seems plausibly what Mharman would have picked.
Again, you don’t know the goddamn theme. Whoever has claimed could be using a fake claim as well. You’re not omnipotent lol
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@RationalMadman
today the vote will be pie or whiteflame please. Supa is town for me.
To lynch? You said wf is town unless with Pie in #258
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All of this DP doesn't make sense, RM is all in on theme splits with Pie being scum while Pie is convinced that RM is anti-town town, with Pie saying to RM to stop tunneling and scum hunt-did Pie say how to scum hunt? All I've seen is the vote to scum hunt based on behavior but I haven't seen anything beyond this
Scum hunting in my books is asking for reads. Asking questions to people. Seeing how they respond. Earth has been horrible at it but he’s inactive. You’re decent at responding but still too inactive imo. After we get responses, I go back to see if there’s anything that stands out to me, and I point it out.

Yeah this makes 0 sense, saying you town in #258  then wanting you to claim, looks like RM really wants this theme split to be known
I think theme analysis is a dogwhistle. He just wants to know who the PRs are.
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It’s also hilarious that RM calls out Supa for tunneling when he’s been doing that to me all game.
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It’s also hilarious that RM calls out Supa for tunneling when he’s been doing that to me all game.
Do you know why RM's so adamant on you? 
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Based on P0E, Supa
Okay thank you.

So as of now it’s a 3/4 - Supa hypothetically.
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I don't think RM is going to gain much on DP1 since it's highly likely scum will claim vanilla or just not claim at all
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@Greyparrot
I don't think RM is going to gain much on DP1 since it's highly likely scum will claim vanilla or just not claim at all
Is this why you sus me?
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@Greyparrot
I don't think RM is going to gain much on DP1 since it's highly likely scum will claim vanilla or just not claim at all
I agree. I’m heavily considering Supa. He hasn’t been this tunnelish. It could just be rust. I agree that RM’s role is sus, but his behavior has been towny. I will take a look at some other games.
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@ILikePie5
So as of now it’s a 3/4 - Supa hypothetically.
Holding off now, would you hammer? VTNLing is also viable
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I agree. I’m heavily considering Supa. He hasn’t been this tunnelish. It could just be rust. I agree that RM’s role is sus, but his behavior has been towny. I will take a look at some other games.
You mean tunnelish with wf? I see what you mean, supa's been...off behaviorally, gp/wf is a potential mafia bandwagon but wf is town in my eyes, odds weigh in supa being mafia by poe
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@That2User
no, it's something else, but it doesn't matter if I am the only one.
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@Greyparrot
no, it's something else, but it doesn't matter if I am the only one.
It does, every reason matters even if you're the only one
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@RationalMadman
 That2 please answer what I asked; explain the link between your themed theory and your game role.
Basically it's someone thinking, '6 million? That's too much man!' = Vanilla
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@That2User
lets just say your town play is off, and leave it at that.