Conspiracy Theory Mafia [DP1]

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@Greyparrot
lets just say your town play is off, and leave it at that. 
That's how I play, anyone can tell you I play this way, but okay
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@That2User
That's how I play, anyone can tell you I play this way, but okay
I'll explain more if I survive tonight. It's something you did unconsciously.
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@That2User
and are still doing.
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@Greyparrot
I'm guessing it's my commas
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@That2User
lol
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@RationalMadman
Why do you believe Pie is mafia?
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@That2User
Holding off now, would you hammer? VTNLing is also viable
Ya, I probably would. The DP is about to end and we need information. 2 flips tomorrow should give us that.
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Alright I’m signing off for today, I’ll be back early morning tomorrow before the DP ends. Got a night with the gal
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As far as I'm concerned, this comes down to behaviors
What behavior? You noted RM being erratic, Supa being noncommittal and isolating what you say to sus you, what else have you noticed?
This is still a pretty accurate breakdown of my behavioral impressions of everyone so far, with perhaps some minor modifications that I'll have to think about when I've had some sleep.

(e.g. his going from pointing out that I'm behaviorally consistent with town to arguing that I'm a prime suspect who needs to full claim this DP)
Yeah this makes 0 sense, saying you town in #258  then wanting you to claim, looks like RM really wants this theme split to be known
For him, it makes sense. This isn't unusual behavior for RM to exhibit, especially in DP1. That being said, it's not particularly helpful.

We shouldn't be basing any decisions at this point on theme splits.
If you really feel it's necessary to out one of us, then put us at L-1. 
I don't like this, you don't think it's a good idea, yet you pushing to be L-1d? What do you want to do to avoid this outcome we shouldn't be doing? Why L-1? Why not L-2?
Like Pie, I think it's a good idea to get as much information out of flips as possible, so the VTNL doesn't really appeal to me. I'd prefer a lynch over a no lynch, despite the fact that we're functioning on limited information. As for L-1 or L-2, I was writing this in a hurry, but the bottom line is putting pressure on someone. We already have Supa at L-2 and he hasn't responded much to it, so L-1 may be necessary to get some traction.

Who do you think is scum besides Supa?
I don't have a solid scum team for him figured out, but I don't think it's Pie or RM. Current PoE favors Earth or you (GP started and has remained on Supa's wagon), though I haven't decided which is more likely yet.

It's possible RM and Pie = mafia team with their constant fight dominating this whole DP, I haven't seen Pie disengage and them being opposed in the opening makes RM look like anti-town town and Pie as town if you side with Pie, misting all of town to think both = town, though it is most likely at least one if not both = town given their mutual dedication to activity, especially RM, I fear this possibility tho
I won't write that off because, honestly, it's a plausible scum team and this is the tactic I'd expect them to take if they were working together. This looks a bit too natural for that to be true, but I haven't put it past them.

We need to deeply look into behaviors, in the most likely case mafia is sitting back benefitting by the RM vs. Pie conflict and flying undetected, I feel you town

If I believe you and me to be town with RM and Pie this leaves Supa, GP, and Earth by P0E, and I highly doubt GP and Earth will be on the same mafia team
Not really sure I'd write off a GP/Earth scum team, but if you do feel strongly about that, then GP should largely be eliminated by POE for you. He'd have to be hard bussing Supa for that to be a viable scum team, and while I don't put it past him, the way he's doing it here speaks more to his town behavior than his scum bussing.
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@That2User
Damn I'm tired, meant to tag you on that last message.
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@whiteflame
Not really sure I'd write off a GP/Earth scum team, but if you do feel strongly about that, then GP should largely be eliminated by POE for you. He'd have to be hard bussing Supa for that to be a viable scum team, and while I don't put it past him, the way he's doing it here speaks more to his town behavior than his scum bussing.
Since GP is voting Supa it's Supa/Earth by P0E, thank you, Idk why I missed that

Like Pie, I think it's a good idea to get as much information out of flips as possible
This makes sense, we need info flips, I will be voting Supa semi soon, hopefully Supa flips scum 


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@whiteflame
PoE favors Earth or you 
Is Earth usually this elusive? We both P0E Earth 
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Supa is flipping Town.

I guarantee it.
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@Mharman
VTL SupaDudz
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Supa is flipping Town.
Why?

Unvote
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Pie has done everything im his power to pbstruct us cracking theme ic he was scum and knew rhe theme was not rivht vs left he cpukd happily feign that paft.

He stalls and stalls the cracking, letting him so conve iently fakeclaim later on after careful planning. FakEclaim slips happen when they are forced early, if the player is mot terrible they always have a good fake later, after time tO analyse and make a realistic link to their fake role thaf also fits the theme of others somehow, especially the dead townies.

He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.

The interactions between Pie and others is extremely off, nothing like his Town play. He is barely grilling at all.
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I have thoroughly explained why already. Read.

Theme and behaviour.
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@ILikePie5
Again, you don’t know the goddamn theme. Whoever has claimed could be using a fake claim as well. You’re not omnipotent lol
Why is that funny to you? Do you enjoy obstructing the solve?
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@That2User
Supa said he is 100% right wing.
His theory is almost definitrlt Q anon and/or election steal.

This fits my own and even your own in multiple ways of the scum is more sanitary conspiracy theories, which is my current suspicion as I truly see a pie wf team viable.
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@RationalMadman
He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.

The interactions between Pie and others is extremely off, nothing like his Town play. He is barely grilling at all.

You saying this since he's saying you anti-town town?

Supa said he is 100% right wing.
His theory is almost definitrlt Q anon and/or election steal.

This fits my own and even your own in multiple ways of the scum is more sanitary conspiracy theories, which is my current suspicion as I truly see a pie wf team viable.
Unless Supa is lying, tho pie/wf is possible since they both want to info flip and willing to vote Supa 
wf is the most town in my eyes, tho I am open to Pie 


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I have to go some hours now.

 I cannot be here to vote last minute elsewhere necessarily but I will be on in 5 hours for a bit.
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No.

Read the whole day phase.

Pie is all defense, zero offense. Giggly, chilled, mocking, jovial.

Pie as Town is a bloodthirsty aggressor that rips to pieces those that stand in his way and it has even cost Town many games because if he is wrong, it leads to disasters.

He is playing so utterly scum meta this game, I am done explaining it. It is a self preservation playstyle he has employed here and not even a collective preservation style as he had no issue with others outing, he let the day flow calmly. He has not defended against lynching anyone, did you notice? That is not his town style.
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Pie is all filler aggression, bark no bite.
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This is not his town vibe which is bite and bark.
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Pie as Town is a bloodthirsty aggressor that rips to pieces those that stand in his way 

Fail 2 see this rip and tear Pie, instead of scum hunting he ping pongs with you all DP, not even fighting you all out despite you being the one who stands in his way 

He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.
 It is a self preservation playstyle he has employed here and not even a collective preservation style as he had no issue with others outing, he let the day flow calmly. He has not defended against lynching anyone, did you notice? That is not his town style.
I am seeing self-defensive play, with the vtls he went with my vote of Earth and my hypothetical vote in Supa, ooc with town Pie, feel inclined to be with you in this

VTL ILikePie5


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Pie is all defense, zero offense.
This is why I am voting Pie, 0 offense,
Pie, why didn't you scum hunt? 
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Scum hunting in my books is asking for reads. Asking questions to people. Seeing how they respond.
Wait tf you did ask my reads, asked questions to me, saw how I responded, scum hunting in your books
Nvm what I said about scum hunting, why didn't you be offensive against RM/someone you thought to be scum?
Like with Supa, wf/me P0Ed Supa, you went in last saying you'd vote when I asked but didn't go all in against Supa b4

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Official Vote Count
Supa (2/4) - Grey, Whiteflame
Pie (2/4) - RM, That2
RM (1/4) - Supa


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I am also down to vote whiteflame, for the record.

All who hide their claims are disrupting Town but Supa's is essentially claimed anyway by saying he is 100% right wing with holocaust denial and michael obama out there. Q anon is technically different to election steal so I am not sure which one he is but I am certain he is one of them.

Whiteflame could be anything, flat earth, Kennedy assassination, ancient aliens who knows.

He claims it is a centrist theory so it is likely one of those.


Clearly watergate is not involved as there is nobody claimimg left wing in the unouted.
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Basically it's someone thinking, '6 million? That's too much man!' = Vanilla
That makes no sense.