Was Jesus homosexual?

idk, I've never met Jesus, but I do know that his dad hates gays. 

Saying homosexuality is an abomination and deserves the death penalty is not the same as saying you hate gays.  When my son looks at porn it is a grievous thing to me and deserves punishment. Yet it does mean I hate him. To let him continue without telling him it is wrong would suggest I don’t care for him. By informing him I actually reveal my care and concern and I fact that I do love him. I love him enough to tell him. 

Now that is spin, isn't?   To declare that homosexuality is an abomination surely indicates very strongly what you think about homosexuality.  An abomination is saying - it is wrong. Also - to say it deserves the death penalty is obviously an end - you want them out of the picture.  How can this not be hate? To compare this with the love of a parent to a child is nonsensical and insulting to children, let alone homosexuals. Homosexuality is not wrong.  I don't believe there is any evidence that Jesus was gay.  But if he was - so what? 

IDK much about the bible.  But it surely expresses God as someone who not only is opposed to homosexuality, by calling it an abomination, calling for its punishment by death, it is a picture of homophobia.  Seriously, the spin is ridiculous and embarrassing.

Timid makes a good point. To declare homosexuality as a sin is already an issue and to say that the death penalty is a justified response is outrageous. (trade, would you like to debate this topic? THBT: Homosexuality should be punishable by death).

Yep....Fantasy for sure.

Nothing sad about a bit of fantasy escapism though.....It's a human tradition....Cultural as it were.

As I said....You choose your fantasy.

And that equates with  the death penalty in your world does it?

 I am sure you see the flaw in your utter bullshite don't you.? 

Tell me, how does god reveal his love and care to a homosexual that he has just ordered beheaded or stoned to death?  And once he has ordered the removal  of the homosexual head , how does he then tell the homosexual  that he loves and cares for him?

 Or does god  first tell the homosexual that he loves and cares for him and then proceed to order the  removal  the homosexuals head .

 You see you have attempted to make this slaughterous death penalty an act of grace and compassion for the sentenced homosexual on behalf of your adopted god..  In other words, you are as usual ,attempting to defend the indefensible and to justify the unjustifiable.

The other abominations listed with homosexuality in the Old Testament are tattoos, eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics. Christians do that other crap all the time and don't think twice about it either they're all abominations or none of them are abominations because of Christ you don't get the  pick which ones you like and which ones you don't.

Yep...The Bible and Religion are full of unusual stuff, and some people take it literally and seriously.

The Bible is an out of date book, and old religions tend to be ridiculous hypotheses.

So what does that tell you about some people?

its obscene for many reasons

you are repeating yourself with the same arguments

What is obscene Doc.

Do you mean my  hypothetical fantasy scenario.

I was actually pointing out that the Character referred to as Jesus, was never attributed a sexuality by any of the plot writers.

I went on to suggest that typically,  the Bible stories are open to interpretation, and  so it would be reasonable to assume whatever.

Obscenity wasn't in my head Doc....You must have recreated the obscenity in yours.

doesnt mean he is gay

Bones, firstly I am simply making the point that because God considers homosexuality evil does not mean he hates homosexuals. I hate Catholicism but I don’t hate Catholics. To correct a catholic is not to hate them. The death penalty does not demonstrate hate towards homosexuals- it demonstrates the sanctity and the high value God has on family and marriage. And on humanity as made in the image of God, male and female. If he did not have a high value of this then then the penalty for homosexuality would reflect that low value. 

As for debating you on the death penalty my answer is no. Thanks for the invite but I don’t actually agree with the death penalty at this time. For any matter. 

Sending someone into Hell i.e making them burn eternally in fire because of a desire which they cannot control is… Gods love? 

The more you value something the more severe the sanction will be on those who attempt to change it. 

Exactly.

Was Frodo Baggins gay?

You choose.

Everyday people want things and are told to stop following those feelings. For example in court a man loves his wife so much he can’t stop following f her around or texting her. The court says do it again and you will breach a restraining order. The man keeps doing until he gets out into prison several times. Or he sees her with someone else. I am not saying it is easy to stop being attracted to someone but the fact is people do stop loving others for all sorts of reasons. 

Why would I want to stop loving my parents? God is not asking us to do that.  He values family. That is the point of my post.  

You don’t really know anything about my background and given some on this site just love to twist everything people raise personally I won’t. But the fact is there are lots of minorities that exist now. And none of them want to be considered abnormal. Think racists. Think trans. Think pedos. Think JWs. Think fundamentalist christians. Yet just because they don’t want to think they are abnormal does not mean they are normal. They might be but thinking it does not make it so.  I might find myself attracted to Mariah Carey. You might say ok you can’t help it. So does that mean I should accept that unless I can make her like me then my life is empty and meaningless? Or do I have a choice? Does the other person have to like me back? The fact is we choose who we are attracted to and we choose how we are going to deal with that attraction.  Every day people who love each other choose to end that relationship for all sorts of reasons.  Over 50 % of marriage end in divorce. This is people choosing who they are attracted to or not anymore.  It is an absurdly to think otherwise. 

God’s love is reflected in his utmost value of marriage and family.  You have not commented on that. Because god values this so highly - it is why the sanction for breaching it is so heavy. And to prove this is the case - understand that the death penalty is not just for homosexuality but for every sexual offence outside of the marriage covenant. Or other offences that might cause a breach in that covenant such as murder or assault or the death of a baby. If God only sentenced gays and nobody else to death then perhaps your fantasy of God being a hater of gays might have merit. But the facts demonstrate otherwise. 

“Everyday people want things and are told to stop following those feelings. For example in court a man loves his wife so much he can’t stop following her around or texting her. The court says do it again and you will breach a restraining order. The man keeps doing this until he gets out into prison several times. Or he sees her with someone else. I am not saying it is easy to stop being attracted to someone but the fact is people do stop loving others for all sorts of reasons”
 
I assume that in this example depicts the homosexual as the criminal facing charges, and the “wife” as the other individual. The only difference with this and homosexuality is that, unlike how in this situation the wife is escaping  the husband, both parties want to be together, with the only thing keeping them apart being the court. In a loving homosexual relationship, both parties are satisfied, it isn’t as if one of them is the “wife” attempting to escape. To alter your example slightly, how would you consider a situation in which a man and his wife were desperate to be together, but as the court rules their relationship as “unnatural” they are forced apart. And not only this, unlike any ordinary law, if they break this one, they spend eternity burning in flames with satan. 
 
“Why would I want to stop loving my parents?”
 
Exactly, asking you to stop loving your parents would be absurd. Just like how asking a homosexual to stop loving their own sex is absurd. To them, it would be like me telling you to stop loving your parents. Their relationship, at least to them, feels as natural as your love for your parents. It isn’t as if they are feeling some sort of artificial love, or else why would they go to such an extent to protest for their rights? If homosexuals really could “change their minds”, do you not think they would? Gays get bashed up for their sexuality, any rational person who could change their mind would do so immediately. Clearly this is something coded into their brain. As such, why would God want to punish something which people cannot change, even if they so desire? 
 
“Yet just because they don’t want to think they are abnormal does not mean they are normal. They might be but thinking it does not make it so”
 
We share common ground here. You’ll be surprised to find that I actually lean conservative. Though we have disagreements with the issue of homosexuailty, I can see where you are coming from, as your views are somewhat similar to my views on transgendered people. I believe that trans people should not be referred to as their chosen gender, as this violates my right to freedom of speech and jeopardizes common biology. Even though something is programmed into your brain, it should not be normalised, as you rightfully state. After all, encoded in the gene’s of men is violence which, even though “normal” should not be encouraged. However, this issue does not extend to homosexuality. Unlike the violent male who, through their “normal” behaviour will physically assault people, or the transgender person who through their “normal” behaviour force me to through out my year 2 biology text book, I can see nothing that the homosexual is doing to me which causes harm. They do not force me to change my language and they do not abuse people. They are just two loving people who, to put frankly, don’t need me busy bodying into what they are doing. 
 
“I might find myself attracted to Mariah Carey. You might say ok you can’t help it. So does that mean I should accept that unless I can make her like me then my life is empty and meaningless? Or do I have a choice? Does the other person have to like me back? The fact is we choose who we are attracted to and we choose how we are going to deal with that attraction”
 
The reason your attraction to Maraih should be contained is because she doesn't like you back. Though you may be open to a relationship, she is not. Therefore, in order to prevent violating her rights, you should maintain distance. However, this is not the case with homosexuals. Both parties in a homosexual relationhip are consenting and want to be together. Using your example, imagine if you and Mariah were deeply in love, when some third party of whom you have never met asserts that you need to be separated. This would be deeply troubling. 
 
“God’s love is reflected in his utmost value of marriage and family.  You have not commented on that. Because god values this so highly - it is why the sanction for breaching it is so heavy”
 
But surely God can see that these people are desperately in love and that despite their best efforts, they cannot change who they are. Surely if God is omnipotent, he can put some sort of awakening sign in the paths of the homosexuals which will make them realise that they are “sinning”. Surely God could teach them why they are “wrong”, instead of forcing them into a pit of fire. 
 
“Or other offences that might cause a breach in that covenant such as murder or assault or the death of a baby”
 
He also states “do not keep back training from the child: for even if you give him blows with the rod, it will not be death to him” (Proverbs 23:13) despite the fact that scientists have found that beating your children doesn't work in the long term and can make children more aggressive.

no idea

Have you ever heard or read anything by Rosaria butterfield? She is a former lesbian feminist academic who has a remarkable story about Gods grace in her life. Her book The secret thoughts of an unlikely convert is worth reading in this context. 

No I haven't, but I may consider doing so in the future. In the mean time, do you have any personal comment regarding my post? 

What an odd statement.

So is she also, a current heterosexual anti-feminist thicko?

What's up Doc.

I'm not sure what you have no idea of, as you didn't specify.

Though if you are saying that you have no idea of Frodo Baggins's sexuality.

Then we would  therefore in be agreement over the unspecified Jesus sexuality thing.

yo whos frodo baggin

He's the central character/hero  of the Lord of the rings tales.

The same as Jesus is to the N.T. tales.

In both stories, the salvation of mankind is the focus of the plot.

The sexuality of the hero, was never the authors predilection.

Whosoever might find either tale homoerotic, has a vivid imagination.

I do but it’s a long response and may take several posts.  I get tired very quickly these days. But please be patient and I will reply shortly. 

No problem take your time. I have a lot to say regarding these topics.