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@Lunatic
Is Zaradi a good player from your previous experiences with them?
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@Speedrace
I said refusing to town confirm yourself is scummy, not withholding results
Confirming that I'm a watcher =/= confirming that I'm town.
And you haven't said WHY you think Press is Mafia (that I've seen), you literally said you wouldn't say why
I said I wouldn't say why to him. I explained a bit to Luna already.
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@Speedrace
You were questioning me about my role and the random roles thing and stuff, then you just stopped
Semantic differences. I read what you wrote differently than what you meant it to be.
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@ILikePie5
Yes, it's really bizarre. Everyone gets a random role. What's the mafia's role, I wonder? Godfather to save him from the nonexistant cop?
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@ILikePie5
Here's how my role works:Speed Shoots Zaradi but is savedZaradi shoots someone but is roleblockedPress is lying in which case we have either a waive, roleblock, or doctor.
I choose to visit person A. I can then force person A to visit person B (if they have a visiting role).
For NP0, person A was Speed and person B was Zar.
Scenario 1 assumes that Speed is scum.
Scenario 2 assumes that my role controls Zar's (Person B's) actions. They don't.
This entire line of reasoning falls apart due to reasons above.
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@Zaradi
Seems like you think I am defending Press or something. I don't agree necessarily that he's done next to nothing. I mean that's pretty subjective. If you want to say that his reads and thoughts haven't helped, sure, but that could be a factor of immaturity and lack of experience as well. Supa does that a lot as town too, fluff posting, bad logic, etc and he is in the same age group.
I don't town tell him or anything for it, it's just something I keep in mind when considering younger players.
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@Zaradi
Confirming you're watcher is almost 100% town confirming. Drafter wouldn't pit ONE Mafia looker against all of these other power roles
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@Speedrace
Weren't you just talking about how roles were randomized?
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@ILikePie5
Sure. I consider him a good player. I wouldn't place him in the top 5 of all time, but he has experience. I definitely remember him as being aggressive, and am not surprised at all by his current play. I wouldn't say that he has a town or scum tell, it's been long enough since I've played with him that I would reset my understanding of his play style anyways.Is Zaradi a good player from your previous experiences with them?
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@Speedrace
Sure. I consider him a good player. I wouldn't place him in the top 5 of all time, but he has experience. I definitely remember him as being aggressive, and am not surprised at all by his current play. I wouldn't say that he has a town or scum tell, it's been long enough since I've played with him that I would reset my understanding of his play style anyways.
Meant to tag you whoops
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@Zaradi
And you haven't said WHY you think Press is Mafia (that I've seen), you literally said you wouldn't say whyI said I wouldn't say why to him. I explained a bit to Luna already.
This leaves us with two cases.
1. You told Luna privately. This is cheating.
2. You posted it somewhere. In that case, share the link
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@Lunatic
Is he always this stubborn?
Because the way he's playing strikes me as very scummy. He's clashing A LOT
If he's really a good player, I'm suspecting that he's a jester/fool, third-party role with the goal of getting lynched
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@Speedrace
Also, what power roles are you talking about? Two roles are purely negative utility (Bomb/Hunter), one role has some negative utility with positive utility (Nurse), and then there's a Redirector that isn't really positive or negative. Watcher is literally the only "power" role, and that's not even that powerful.
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@PressF4Respect
Have you missed me and Lunatic's entire conversation on whether your play can be described as immature or not?
I’m logging off for the night guys. Gonna sleep on it.
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@Zaradi
I would assume Drafter would randomize until it was balanced. He's a smart dude. He wouldn't get a random setup of one goon vs 4 doctors and just let it fly lol
But anyway, are you going to confirm your role or not
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@Speedrace
Is he always this stubborn?Because the way he's playing strikes me as very scummy. He's clashing A LOTIf he's really a good player, I'm suspecting that he's a jester/fool, third-party role with the goal of getting lynched
This is why I suspect PressF. Someone smart enough to pull off a gambit where he's a cop claiming to be a cop in order to look like a PGO shouldn't simultaneously be dumb enough to fail to understand a popcorn.
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@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
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@Speedrace
If there's an opportunity to do so then sure. There isn't one right now.
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@SirAnonymous
I think he understood it but purposefully didn't follow because he could
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@Speedrace
Is he always this stubborn?
Oh hell ya. its a null tell.
Because the way he's playing strikes me as very scummy. He's clashing A LOTIf he's really a good player, I'm suspecting that he's a jester/fool, third-party role with the goal of getting lynched.
You can check out any of his old games and see similar playstyle. He's a bit of a hot head, but then again so am I. I consider him a good player. I used to play a lot more like him too, but he kind of reminds me of buddamoose, where he can tunnel vision a bit too much IMO.
Also being a good player is subjective. I consider anyone who actively tries to scum hunt and can back it up with good reason (even if that reason is disagreeable), can calculate night actions well as scum, etc a "good" player. Again he's not top 5, but I think he is good objectively speaking.
I had pretty terrible reads last game, would you consider me a good player?
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@Zaradi
Immature = scumHave you missed me and Lunatic's entire conversation on whether your play can be described as immature or not?
is not a valid deduction
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@Lunatic
Is he always this stubborn?Oh hell ya.
<3
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@Zaradi
I mean next DP before anyone says who they visited
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@PressF4Respect
So you really haven't been reading the conversation. Cool. I've been saying you aren't immature, Lunatic is saying that you are.
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@Speedrace
Again, if the opportunity presents itself then sure. If I watch someone and no one visited them, that doesn't really confirm my role now does it?
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@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
@SirAnonymous
Well pies asleep, so what do you guys think about the balance of claimed roles so far? What do you think about the bomb/hunter dynamic, two extra killing roles in a small game of 6?
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@Zaradi
So what actions, other than the popcorn thing (which I've already addressed), have I done that makes you think I'm scum?
The more I think about it, the more PressF's play resembles his gambit in the last mafia. Last time, his cop claim was deliberately over-the-top and inviting mafia to come kill him. He may as well have been saying, "I'm a PGO, I'm a PGO, you don't want to lynch me." This time, it looks like he's deliberately playing anti-town to say, "I'm scum, I'm scum, me, me, me!" It really reads like he's a jester. I could be wrong, but it looks really similar.
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@Lunatic
I think Mafia must be strong