drafterman's QuickFire Series 1 (QFS1) - DP1

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Lunatic asked me why I chose who I did. I replied with "I chose randomly because there was nothing to go off of NP0."

Please tell me what is wrong with that.
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I don't think he's mafia because he's been immature(?). I think his play reeks of scum-tells.
Bad logic and immaturity can often be confused for scum tells. You could be right about him, just advising you to be open minded about his youth and take it into consideration.

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Do you choose who to take down or does the hammer get taken down? Can you forfeit or are you forced to choose?
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I don’t know what you mean by the first part.

Second Part, yes I can forfeit.
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I don’t know what you mean by the first part.
When you die do you choose who gets to die, or is it the person who hammers?

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Personally, I think Press, Pie, and Zaradi are being needlessly aggressive (that might apply to me, but I know I'm town already). Their play doesn't seem right to me.
I admit that the bomb claim is suspect. It would be a brainlessly easy cop-out for a mafia.
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@Lunatic
Blanket statements like (so and so is not getting lynched) don't phase me, never have.

Not trying to "phase you". But if you think we're lynching Pie anytime soon, then you're playing a different game of mafia than the rest of us. Use your time better.

You sound like FourTrouble. 
Now there's some fucking irony lol.


I've been watching PressF's posts, I don't see a smoking gun argument against him yet,
This is DP1. If you're looking for a "smoking gun" argument to lynch anyone, then you might as well afk for the next few DPs.



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@PressF4Respect
Lunatic asked me why I chose who I did.
Who did you choose? I missed it.


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I'm a bomb. You're up, Pie.
How does your role work? You kill the person who hammers you or the person who kills you or both?

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@Lunatic
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Press, if you redirected actions on Speed to Zaradi then Lunatic’s Nurse action goes onto Zaradi.

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Speed Shoots Zaradi but is saved

Zaradi shoots someone but is roleblocked

Press is lying in which case we have either a waive, roleblock, or doctor.





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@Lunatic
I kill whoever kills me in the NP. It doesn't affect the person who hammers me.
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@Lunatic
Bad logic and immaturity can often be confused for scum tells.

Neither of which apply to why I think he's mafia. He's done close to nothing all DP long and his reactions to pressure have been super bad.
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@SirAnonymous
The reasons for lynching you would be your illogical play such as sabotaging the popcorn
There's a major problem with popcorn. If the next person to go is offline, then we wait for them to go online. Meanwhile, scum can come up with an exotic claim. Can you disagree with this? Yes. Is it illogical? No.

and your pointless VTL of Zaradi.
If someone was VTLing you from the first page onwards and gave no reasons for doing so, it would look like scum trying to find a scapegoat. 

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@Lunatic
When you die do you choose who gets to die, or is it the person who hammers?
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I can choose who gets to come to hell with me
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That scenario literally assumes that Speed is scum. 
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Neither of which apply to why I think he's mafia. He's done close to nothing all DP long and his reactions to pressure have been super bad
Both of those fall under bad logic and immaturity, btw. 
But whatever, I'll think about PressF, but I am not in a rush.
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@PressF4Respect
There's a major problem with popcorn. If the next person to go is offline, then we wait for them to go online. Meanwhile, scum can come up with an exotic claim. Can you disagree with this? Yes. Is it illogical? No.
That would be a painfully obvious attempt to avoid claiming that would result in a lynch of the offline player.



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@Lunatic
but I am suspicious of the bomb/hunter thing and thing scum could be between the two.  

Roles are random. Nothing I can do about what role I got.
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@Lunatic
How do either of those rely on immaturity or bad logic? 
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I can choose who gets to come to hell with me
So if you were to get lynched, who would you most likely choose as of right now to take with you? Or would you forfeit?

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@Zaradi
Moreover watcher's aren't really good at role-confirming other people outside of "okay, do they have a role that can visit in the night". I don't know what they do.
I'm not asking you to role confirm someone else, I'm asking you to role confirm YOURSELF

Refusal to do that with your vote on Press for no reason is extremely scummy

VTL Zaradi
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That scenario literally assumes that Speed is scum. 

One of the aforementioned scenarios, yes.
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@Speedrace
I'm not asking you to role confirm someone else,
I'm aware. SirAnon was, however, as what you quoted was in response to.

I'm asking you to role confirm YOURSELF

Refusal to do that with your vote on Press for no reason is extremely scummy

My vote's on Press because I think he's mafia. And no one's said why withholding results that don't implicate or do anything is scummy.
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Are you still mad at me?
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Roles are random. Nothing I can do about what role I got.
I know but that's two roles with implications on death. It's not impossible, sure. But the bomb role seems to only effect Mafia, your's seems more negative utility to town. 

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@Lunatic
So if you were to get lynched, who would you most likely choose as of right now to take with you? Or would you forfeit?

Depends on what happens in Twilight. I’ll reread the DP and analyze based on that. Right now I’m trying to figure our the redirect and what it means for Press and Zaradi. It’s 33/33/33 rn for me. Id have to re-look
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Are you still mad at me?

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@Zaradi
I said refusing to town confirm yourself is scummy, not withholding results

And you haven't said WHY you think Press is Mafia (that I've seen), you literally said you wouldn't say why
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@Zaradi
SirAnon was, however, as what you quoted was in response to.
I didn't ask you to. I said it was something you could do.


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@ILikePie5
You were questioning me about my role and the random roles thing and stuff, then you just stopped
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I know but that's two roles with implications on death. It's not impossible, sure. But the bomb role seems to only effect Mafia, your's seems more negative utility to town. 

If you’re thinking from a balance perspective, idk what to tell you. This whole game is wack