drafterman's QuickFire Series 1 (QFS1) - DP1

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I did say that. 
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@PressF4Respect
Looked at it. What am I supposed to be seeing? If I recall correctly I already responded to half of it. 
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@ILikePie5
He consistently dodges questions, doesn't give reasons for reads (mainly on press), and his refusal to confirm his role

Those are all extremely scummy
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Also, I haven't posted a case on F4 because I've been going back on my read on him a bit, as referenced by my post saying "hey maybe my read on him is just omgus".

My vote's on him because there's no time left, there's not time to organize anything else and he happens to be my strongest scum read, not because I think he's definitively scum. If I had a preference my vote wouldn't be on anyone.
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@Zaradi
He claimed that my play was illogical and gave examples of my "illogical play". I explained how the examples he cited weren't illogical. 
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@Speedrace
1. What questions have I dodged outside of you wanting a doctoral thesis on my press read?
2. Go back a few pages and read what I've posted on this "confirm my role" bs then come back here.

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@PressF4Respect
Gratz. So what?
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@Zaradi
So if the reasons that he gave for my "illogical" play are debunked...

He has no basis for VTLing me.
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@ILikePie5
I'm especially curious about why you decided to sheep Sir.
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I'm especially curious about why you decided to sheep Sir.

I’m his guardian angel. Zaradi claimed and said he watched Lunatic and got nothing. I want a lynch tho to go forward on POE. A watcher is more valuable than a Redirector in my opinion as well.
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Read 508 and 518
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I’m his guardian angel. Zaradi claimed and said he watched Lunatic and got nothing. I want a lynch tho to go forward on POE. A watcher is more valuable than a Redirector in my opinion as well.
That doesn't answer my question. As Sir himself said, just because you're his angel doesn't mean that you must do exactly what he does.


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That doesn't answer my question. As Sir himself said, just because you're his angel doesn't mean that you must do exactly what he does.

Did you read the second part? I want a lynch, you’re the best option since a watcher is more valuable than a redirector which is a negative role
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Again, this isn't a debate. Mafia isn't a game of logic where if you're winning on your centennial arguments for someone to be mafia, they're suddenly mafia. It's a game of reading behavior and understanding mindstates. You can certainly feel like you "debunked" his reasons, but he still might not believe you. 

In short, mafia's a game where saying "I got a gut feeling" can be just as compelling a reason as a five page paper on posts and scum tells 
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Contentional* not centennial. Wtf autocorrect...
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I want a lynch, you’re the best option since a watcher is more valuable than a redirector which is a negative role
1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town?
2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.


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1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town? 
Causes confusion within town 


2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.

This works for everyone, what’s your point?
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Again, this isn't a debate. Mafia isn't a game of logic where if you're winning on your centennial arguments for someone to be mafia, they're suddenly mafia. It's a game of reading behavior and understanding mindstates. You can certainly feel like you "debunked" his reasons, but he still might not believe you. 

In short, mafia's a game where saying "I got a gut feeling" can be just as compelling a reason as a five page paper on posts and scum tells 
Saying that someone is scum and providing vague/non-existent reasons to back it up is in itself scummy.

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Why?
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Press - 3/4 - SirAnon, Zaradi, Pie
Pie - 1/4 - Lunatic
Zaradi - 2/4 - Speed, Press

The day phase is over. Nothing triggers a twilight phase.
The day ends in a No Lynch 

You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

THIS THREAD IS CLOSED

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1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town? 
Causes confusion within town 
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If I give my reads at the beginning, then there is nothing confusing about it.

2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.

This works for everyone, what’s your point?

That means that Zaradi is not confirmed, since the report works for everyone.