Trump says US will take Gaza & turn it into the rivera of the ME

Author: Yassine

Posts

Total: 93
Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@Best.Korea
Pedophile isnt really an insult. All your ancestors were pedophiles.
- LOL! Whatever happened to this Forum. I used to say this & get chewed on. – The real pedophiles aka 'pederasts' have alway existed at the bottom of sexual filth of societies & they are the ones behind feminists promoting marrying young fertile girls as "pedophilia" to gatekeep men from ditching them in favor of younger girls. I guarantee you, if you drop the legal age of consent tomorrow down to 12, half the relationships in the country will breakup & 5000 years of history will set in right back up.

Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Yassine
LOL! Whatever happened to this Forum. I used to say this & get chewed on.
There were plenty of debates regarding age of consent here. People eventually learned not to get too upset about it.

– The real pedophiles aka 'pederasts' have alway existed at the bottom of sexual filth of societies & they are the ones behind feminists promoting marrying young fertile girls as "pedophilia" to gatekeep men from ditching them in favor of younger girls.
I figured that is very possible. Not many men want to be with a fat feminist woman. But then again, society also abolished polygamy marriages, which is what caused many people to not have any relationship at all.

I guarantee you, if you drop the legal age of consent tomorrow down to 12, half the relationships in the country will breakup & 5000 years of history will set in right back up.
10 to 13 is usually the age when women can give birth.

About 150 years ago, age of consent was mostly 7 to 12 in different areas of the world.

However, some countries started increasing age of consent until they ended up at 16 to 18.

The funny thing is that now those same countries struggle with very low birth rate problems. Divine nature always punishes the violation of her commands. The basic math will tell them that highest birth rate is achieved only when woman starts giving birth as early as possible.
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
Very well put question. I assume this is a genuine question, so I am gunna answer genuinely. But I will ask you similar questions, how do you believe Israel wages war? Is this consistent with Christian/Western/American... values? Is this morally justifiable according to you?
Thanks for your comprehensive answer! I asked out of genuine curiosity and not to critique or cross examine your answer. I suspect that if I answer in kind, you will seek to criticize, take exception, and maybe even have a good laugh at my expense; I’m just not in the mood to go to great effort for it to result in bickering back and forth. What I will say is that the Bible does not really give much instruction at all about how war should be waged. The Old Testament has a little bit, but is mainly a history of war rather than a how-to manual. The New Testament has none to my knowledge. IMO, the Bible is a book at war with itself— by that I mean contradictory and open to interpretation. For example, Jesus famously said, “He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.” But… obviously some disciples WERE carrying swords!

The West seems to get its rules of warfare from historic warriors such as Hammurabi and from the history of warfare itself. Do western forces follow the rules? Yes and no depending. If I were to sum up the conduct of American forces at least, we do the best we can based upon the circumstances. I cannot speak for the Jewish/Israeli rules of conduct, but I imagine they overlap a fair amount with the US and Western Europe. I don’t agree with everything Israel does, but neither do many Israelis! And I live in a nation surrounded by allies, not potential adversaries as Israel does. As I said earlier, Israel has to strike a contradictory balance between valuing all human life and “Never again.”

Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
Thanks for your comprehensive answer! I asked out of genuine curiosity and not to critique or cross examine your answer. I suspect that if I answer in kind, you will seek to criticize, take exception, and maybe even have a good laugh at my expense; I’m just not in the mood to go to great effort for it to result in bickering back and forth.
- I always welcome a genuine discussion. I know quite a bit about the subject, I was just curious about what you believe.

What I will say is that the Bible does not really give much instruction at all about how war should be waged. The Old Testament has a little bit, but is mainly a history of war rather than a how-to manual.
- I would posit that the Jews take that "little bit" as law, from the Torah. 

The New Testament has none to my knowledge. IMO, the Bible is a book at war with itself— by that I mean contradictory and open to interpretation. For example, Jesus famously said, “He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.” But… obviously some disciples WERE carrying swords!
- Indeed. Jesus (pbuh) himself would come down with the sword in the Second Coming.

The West seems to get its rules of warfare from historic warriors such as Hammurabi and from the history of warfare itself.
- The modern West's warfare modus operandi originates in the Christendom Crusades, distinct from ancient warfare such as Rome. Conquests shifted from imperial to colonial, from extension to extraction, from eternal to utilitarian, from fighting to killing, from centrifugal to centripetal, from fiscal to economical... etc, & henceforth developed into more & more utilitarian organized systematic warfare.

Do western forces follow the rules? Yes and no depending. If I were to sum up the conduct of American forces at least, we do the best we can based upon the circumstances.
- 'Best' assumes a reference of conduct in war. There is none anywhere in US Law, or for any other western country.

I cannot speak for the Jewish/Israeli rules of conduct, but I imagine they overlap a fair amount with the US and Western Europe.
- I agree. In fact, modern European warfare is throughly tied to Jews. 

I don’t agree with everything Israel does, but neither do many Israelis! And I live in a nation surrounded by allies, not potential adversaries as Israel does. As I said earlier, Israel has to strike a contradictory balance between valuing all human life and “Never again.”
- They are indeed acting according to their own Just War beliefs, which consists of thoroughly destroying the enemy including women & children, killing their cattle, raping...etc, as constantly declared by their officials & religious leaders, & shown daily in their action. – Yet, It is not impossible that they could act according to aforementioned rules of Just War in Sharia, but they won't. Israel's (West) manner of warfare is not sustainable & is doomed to fail sooner than later.
Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@Best.Korea

I figured that is very possible. Not many men want to be with a fat feminist woman. But then again, society also abolished polygamy marriages, which is what caused many people to not have any relationship at all.
- I actually know quite a bit about the history of consent laws & marriage & so on. I may make a post about this, but it's a deep rabbit hole. What I said is actually fact. – Virtually all the rationale & legislation Feminists, both liberals & radicals, promoted or introduced regarding consent & marital law during the 70s & 80s revolved around age & age-gap provisions, to an asinine degree. These reforms included for instance:
• Raising the age of consent > to make younger girls even less accessible.
• Replacing chastity provisions withs age-gape provision > whereas previously victims were chaste girls preyed on by men under false promises, thenceforth any girl below the age of consent became by definition a victim & any man above the age of consent in a consensual relationship with said girl an aggressor.
• Replacing seduction crime with assault crime > the former encouraged those who have consensual sex with a minor to marry them, the latter sends them to prison.
• Dropping the promiscuity clause that dismissed cases if the young female was not a virgin > to drive home that absolutely any consensual sex with a minor even a prostitute or a seductress is criminal.
• Extending penetration provision to all types touching > So it doesn't have to be intercourse, any suggestive relationship with a minor is penalized.
• Eliminating the mistake-of-age defense > to make sure older men avoid any young looking woman at all costs.
• Dropping corroboration requirements (witnesses & proof) > So the mere fact that you're with a minor is sufficient evidence if claim made.
• Grading the offenses based on the age of the victim > i.e. the younger the less accessible.
• Dropping  marital exemption that excluded husbands from prosecution > no comment.
• Implementing rape shield laws so that the victim's sexual past could not be brought into evidence > Need I say more!
...etc.

- Most importantly: although these Feminists clearly wanted to keep men their age from chasing younger women, they are not the ones holding power. Libertarian Feminists at the time promoted abolishing age of consent, but they didn't succeed. This is by design. – In truth, this formulation of Consent Laws is primarily aimed at stifling marital relationships in favor of promiscuous sex. A relationship between an older established man & a young fertile impressionable virgin girl inevitably leads to a stable marriage & children, as has been the case the past 5000 years in all human societies. The age-gap provisions are one loop in a chain to separate sex from marriage, along with sexual education, ban of segregation, accessible contraception, abortion, parental rights termination, adoption, child support... etc. Absolutely any obstacle that may steer women away from promiscuity towards marriage in fear of getting pregnant or raising children is categorically removed. Boys & girls at the height of their sexual libido forced to mix during their teen years results in high mileage hoes who can't settle, & even if they do it inevitably fails. – All this is by design. The powers that be, i.e. the ruling dynasty in the West & their Jewish kingmakers, are bent on depopulating humans, & particularly hell-bent on extinguishing White populations. If you know you know. 

10 to 13 is usually the age when women can give birth.
About 150 years ago, age of consent was mostly 7 to 12 in different areas of the world.
- In the US this persisted until early 20th century, & 12 is still the age of consent in many parts of the world today including provinces in Mexico. However, what age of consent meant back then it isn't what it means now. Age of consent at the time was not a condition for marriage, rather it provisioned for two things: virginity & chastity. You could still marry a 7 year old with the permission of the father. That is, it was a crime to take the virginity of a girl below the age of consent (outside marriage). It wasn't a crime to have consensual sex with a minor promiscuous (i.e. not virgin) girl; unless the consent was contingent on the promise of marriage –aka seduction crime. It wasn't even a crime to have forceful sex (rape) with a non-virgin minor! In fact, the increase in age of consent early 20th century (to 16 in the US for instance) was done to protect young girls from seduction crimes, because then it became widespread that underage girls would go to the town or the city to study or work putting them at risk of being preyed on by older men under the promise of marriage. – Marriage with underage girls continued normally until the 70s & 80s with 2nd wave Feminism.

However, some countries started increasing age of consent until they ended up at 16 to 18.
The funny thing is that now those same countries struggle with very low birth rate problems. Divine nature always punishes the violation of her commands. The basic math will tell them that highest birth rate is achieved only when woman starts giving birth as early as possible.'
- True. The beautiful thing about this is that the "progressive" "liberal" "egalitarian" "feminist" "human rightist" "free" societies will simply go extinct & soon be replaced by those "backward" "misogynist" "medieval" "homophobic" "pedophile" societies from sheer birth rates.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Yassine
You seem to know a lot about history. Most people are surprised when I tell them that just 150 years ago, age of consent in USA was 7 to 10, and just 80 years ago it was around 10 to 14 in many different states in USA. However, raising the age of consent and changing consent laws didnt seem to benefit USA in any way. It didnt reduce crime or suicides, but it did reduce birth rates and it did increase prison population significantly. Laws are by nature supposed to encourage marriages, not discourage them. The main two arguments today against child marriages are consent and harm, but both are self contradicting, because consent argument on its own cannot work without harm argument, and harm argument doesnt work either because raising age of consent laws increased harm, especially by reducing birth rates and increasing prison population and violence in prisons. I am yet to see someone make a case for how this nonsense which we have today is actually somehow beneficial for the country. If US birth rates keep dropping as they were so far, USA might face same situation as Japan and South Korea. Both Japan and South Korea are predicted to lose 60% to 80% of their population in next 100 years if they dont increase birth rates. Its actually amazing how people want to introduce fake morality by pretending they care for children, yet end up destroying millions of future generations through birth rates alone. If 500 years ago someone said that age of consent should be 18, everyone would laugh and consider him insane because back then it was impossible for society to defend itself if it didnt have high birth rates achieved only through early marriages. But today, most people seem to be clueless about how reproduction works. What is even more crazy is that today, countries which have and encourage child marriages not only have very high birth rates, but their suicide rates are much lower than in countries with higher age of consent. There are plenty of studies done to show how marriage reduces suicide rates, thus countries which banned child marriages have merely removed the protection those marriages offered and thats all they achieved.
Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@Best.Korea
You seem to know a lot about history. Most people are surprised when I tell them that just 150 years ago, age of consent in USA was 7 to 10, and just 80 years ago it was around 10 to 14 in many different states in USA.
- Even then you could still marry below the age of consent with the father's permission or engage with an underage non-virgin. 

However, raising the age of consent and changing consent laws didnt seem to benefit USA in any way. It didnt reduce crime or suicides, but it did reduce birth rates and it did increase prison population significantly. Laws are by nature supposed to encourage marriages, not discourage them.
- On the contrary. The Law is specifically designed to stifle the Marriage Institution to its death. For instance, as absurd as it sounds, you are not legally required to provide for your wife when you're married, yet legally required to when you're not. Make it make sense! – Morocco is a great case study, being the only Arab country to introduce marital law reforms (in 2004) aimed at amending Sharia based rules into more western-friendly "egalitarian" rules to "empower" women. Divorce cases henceforth went up 20 TIMES in a mere 13 years (likely much higher today). From 7k cases in 2004 to 146k cases in 2017. That's a 2000% increase in 13 years! Some of these amendments included allowing women to initiate divorce, introducing no-fault divorce, & adapting income based alimony (when priorly only men could initiate divorce, otherwise the judge may grant it only the if the wife proves a legitimate complain). – In Sharia, alimony is calculated based on basic needs within means, regardless of how considerable the income is.

- In context, divorce in Sharia functions differently. It is permissible, but barely. Although only men can unilaterally initiate divorce, there are mandatory barriers put in place to prevent such outcomes in case of intent, such as: domestic reconciliation (communication, silent treatment then discipline), arbitration, settlement, temporary separation, delayed dower (the husband must pay the wife in divorce), compensation (in case of no fault from the wife)...etc. Women, however, can only do so by settlement or through the court. Divorce can be:
Faskh: annulment before consummation.
Talaq: divorce initiated by the husband with a 3-step max limit. As in, the husband may divorce his wife 3 times & no more. The 1st time (Rij'i) triggers a 3-month separation, after which the couple shall be formally divorced (prohibited from being together) & may only resume their relationship again if they formally remarry, unless they make up within those 3 months. The 2nd time (Ba'in) triggers a formal divorce immediately & the couple may only resume their relationship if they formally remarry again. The 3rd time triggers a final divorce where the husband may only remarry the ex-wife after she engages in another marriage to its final conclusion. Then the count resets. 
Khul': divorce initiated by the wife by way of settlement or breach of contract, as such relinquishing some or rest of her dower, or in case the husband violated a stipulated condition in the marriage contract. 
Tatliq: divorce enforced by the judge in case of legitimate grievance against the husband (impotent, does not provide, withholds sexually, harmful...).
Tafriqa: annulment enforced by the judge in case of invalid marriage, such as incest or any form of unrecognized marriage.
Li'an: permanent irreversible divorce in case of adultery.

The main two arguments today against child marriages are consent and harm, but both are self contradicting, because consent argument on its own cannot work without harm argument, and harm argument doesnt work either because raising age of consent laws increased harm, especially by reducing birth rates and increasing prison population and violence in prisons.
- Don't let them pull you into their nonsense. A person who reached puberty is not & has never been considered a child until the past few decades. Children 7 year of age hanged for crimes in 19th century Europe. "Child" -adolescent- sexual intercourse still occurs & is legally & culturally promoted & encouraged. It's the marriage part that's frowned upon & vilified. – The crux of this whole hoax is chastity. Anything that isn't chastity is glorified & female empowerment, & anything that is is demeaned, controlling & primitive. This is because valuing chastity necessarily leads to valuing marriage & family.

- As to consent, it is one of the greatest tools designed to serve the agenda of the state. A minor's consent pretext is used to stomp parental guidance in things which interfere with the state's agenda, & completely discarded in things inline with the state's agenda. A parent may not interfere with their child's "sex life" for "consent" reasons, yet the child has no consent to not spend his childhood in a concentration camp for state indoctrination (aka school). The way to understand this consent among minor nonsense is to realize the "child" is owned by the state, not by his parents or himself.

I am yet to see someone make a case for how this nonsense which we have today is actually somehow beneficial for the country. If US birth rates keep dropping as they were so far, USA might face same situation as Japan and South Korea. Both Japan and South Korea are predicted to lose 60% to 80% of their population in next 100 years if they dont increase birth rates. Its actually amazing how people want to introduce fake morality by pretending they care for children, yet end up destroying millions of future generations through birth rates alone.
- You are assuming legislation is enacted by the state to benefit the country & the people when it is primarily for the benefit of the empire, the ruling dynasty. The empire wants to have its subjects as individual pods. Early marriage means girls don't go to school & don't receive proper education, aka state sponsored indoctrination. It means young girls not joining the workforce & raising yet another generation of children away from state sponsored indoctrination. It means less labour to feed capitalist productivity & less consumerism to feed their profits. It means stable marriages & family cohesion. This fosters community formation away from state designed labelism & individualism, which isn't allowed. It means higher birth rates & more native people, in this case Whites, which means less need for immigration & subsequent multiculturalism. This isn't allowed either, because it leads to homogeneous societies, which are an existential threat to the empire & the Jews.

If 500 years ago someone said that age of consent should be 18, everyone would laugh and consider him insane because back then it was impossible for society to defend itself if it didnt have high birth rates achieved only through early marriages.
- In the early 20th century when the age of consent was raised to 16, it was met with ridicule by the press. Funny stuff! Like, "they should raise it to 81 years". It would be like if today they raise it to 25 or 30.

But today, most people seem to be clueless about how reproduction works. What is even more crazy is that today, countries which have and encourage child marriages not only have very high birth rates, but their suicide rates are much lower than in countries with higher age of consent. There are plenty of studies done to show how marriage reduces suicide rates, thus countries which banned child marriages have merely removed the protection those marriages offered and thats all they achieved.
- It does boil down to fertility rates & family stability. This creates a sustainable human society. Everything else (i.e. all the progressive "rights") leads to self-destructive extinction. Following current trends, in a 100 years, there would literally be as many White people as Japanese today, & all Japanese will fit in Tokyo. – For all their cries & screams & scorns against these "backward" "pedophilic" ways, there would simply not be there in the future to say anything about it.

Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Yassine
It does boil down to fertility rates & family stability
It also comes down to mother's age and mental health, experience, disorders and birth defects. About 50% of women past age 30 cant even give birth, but those who can, have much higher rate of birth defects than any other age group. Also, the age of the mother has great effect on the child. First, the younger the mother, the longer will child have a mother in life, assuming same life expectancy of mother. Second, the younger the mother, the easier she can adapt to being a mother because there is more learning time and younger brain absorbs information better. For example, if woman became mother at age 15, then by age 25 she would already have 10 years of experience in being a mother, which she then could apply to raise next child she gives birth to, as well as pass the decade of experience to the child. By age 35, she would already have 20 years of experience to pass on. Compare that to those who start being a mother at age 25 and have 0 experience, and by the time they get 10 years of experience, they are mostly no longer fertile, thus unable to apply gained experience, while also having less experience in total to pass on to children who were born before. Western world has it backwards. In the past, people knew that children have no much experience, but they allowed them to gain experience. Today, West uses the argument of children not having the experience to prevent children from even gaining experience. And then they complain about why their children are stupid and incapable even at age 18. It is simple. Protecting children from truth cannot make them understand truth. This is true by tautology.

You can even see how brainless people in the West are. They are clueless about birth rates and clueless about how reproduction works. They are quick to condemn all child marriages, but they have no any understanding about them except the very limited stupid view which media and education gave them. Today, they lack knowledge which all their ancestors had. Its a clear proof that government programs people. Government, in just 100 years, managed to eradicate tens of thousands of years of tradition and replace it with an entirely new completely opposite opinion which never existed before in history anywhere.

There are some countries with age of consent at 14, like Germany. But there is a difference between age of consent and age of marriage and reproduction. Generally, if sex is encouraged while reproduction is discouraged, it doesnt help birth rates much.

We see today that countries with highest birth rates like Niger are the ones with very low age of consent, but also very low age of marriage and age of reproduction.

Today, in USA, even if 12 year old gets pregnant, she is  condemned and shamed. There were even shows publicly shaming young mothers in USA on TV. This is the world which claims it protects children.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Yassine
Also, what most people fail to understand is that sexual urges dont start at 18.

Sexual urges sometimes start even before age 10.

But these people would rather have kids watching porn and doing unsafe sex than to allow them to marry and do it in a safe way.

In USA, 30% of children under age 11 watched porn. It goes to 50% for those under 13, and over 30% of all people had sex at 15 or earlier. 

So all they achieved with banning child marriages is that now there is still plenty of sex, but outside of marriage and with multiple sex partners.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,463
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Best.Korea
The average age of first birth in the United States is 27.5 years old, a record high
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Greyparrot
The average age of first birth in the United States is 27.5 years old, a record high
Yeah, hence the 1.6 birth rates. Even under ideal conditions, birth rates need to be like 2.1 or more, due to people who die before they reproduce or who dont reproduce at all. USA wouldnt need so much migrants if it had proper birth rates it once had.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,463
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Best.Korea
There are a lot of women having their 1st child at 30+, that may be a reason why many kids are born with things like peanut allergies, dysphoria, and autism. RFK needs to get on this.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,463
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Best.Korea
Also, migrants with their imported cultural values would destroy the whole "my body, my choice" movement that allows women to exempt themselves from the civic duty that maintains the continued existence of a civilized society. Until we can grow babies in pods, women need to do their civic duty, or go extinct.

Imagine how women would respond if  American men collectively said "my body my choice" when China invades and uses all the American women as slaves and toys for entertainment. Men exempting themselves from civic duty will have similar results in the destruction and extinction of society.

Many American men today are doing exactly that, refusing to ever marry and form nuclear families and enjoying a life free from civic responsibilities.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Greyparrot
There are a lot of women having their 1st child at 30+
Thats because of feminist retarded culture.

First they say "you cant have kids at 15 because you are too young".

Then once you are 18 they tell you "dont have kids yet, first go to college"

Then after college, they tell you "dont have kids yet, first build career".

By the time woman gets to age where society approves of her having kids, she is already too old to give birth to more than two kids on average. Some women need many years to get pregnant, some need years to find the right partner, which is why many end up giving birth at 30+.

30+ is the worst possible age to give birth, where rate of defects increases to greatest.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,463
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Best.Korea
I remember watching a "man on the street" stream where a guy asked a bunch of random women what they thought their duty to society was. For those who even had an answer, most of them said something akin to jobs or taxes. Few of them said that growing a family was a duty.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 404
Posts: 12,563
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Greyparrot
most of them said something akin to jobs or taxes. Few of them said that growing a family was a duty.
Its called being retarded. My parent also never cared for a family, but just cared for job. Now all they have in life is shitty job and they only exists to work for and obey the government. They have very much degraded in all areas of life. Cant cook, cant clean, cant organize house so everything is a mess, cant solve basic logical problems, getting angry and upset all the time for no reason, trouble with addictions, they have very bad memory and keep forgetting everything, cant manage to solve daily tasks, no time for their own kids at all, multitasking all the time while at the same time failing at all tasks, marriage which failed after only few years... yeah, the liberation of men and women turned out great.
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,899
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Yassine
- They are indeed acting according to their own Just War beliefs, which consists of thoroughly destroying the enemy including women & children, killing their cattle, raping...etc, as constantly declared by their officials & religious leaders, & shown daily in their action. – Yet, It is not impossible that they could act according to aforementioned rules of Just War in Sharia, but they won't. Israel's (West) manner of warfare is not sustainable & is doomed to fail sooner than later.
With 90% of Gaza destroyed and 90% of the Palestinians displaced in Gaza and 41 thousand killed. What did Hamas achieve by killing 14 hundred Jews?
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
Suspicion confirmed, but I do have a lingering question about your claim here:
- 'Best' assumes a reference of conduct in war. There is none anywhere in US Law, or for any other western country.
I’m not sure what you even mean with this claim— what about international laws of warfare, the US Law of War, and US Rules of Engagement?
Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@Best.Korea
It also comes down to mother's age and mental health, experience, disorders and birth defects. About 50% of women past age 30 cant even give birth, but those who can, have much higher rate of birth defects than any other age group. Also, the age of the mother has great effect on the child. First, the younger the mother, the longer will child have a mother in life, assuming same life expectancy of mother. Second, the younger the mother, the easier she can adapt to being a mother because there is more learning time and younger brain absorbs information better. For example, if woman became mother at age 15, then by age 25 she would already have 10 years of experience in being a mother, which she then could apply to raise next child she gives birth to, as well as pass the decade of experience to the child. By age 35, she would already have 20 years of experience to pass on. Compare that to those who start being a mother at age 25 and have 0 experience, and by the time they get 10 years of experience, they are mostly no longer fertile, thus unable to apply gained experience, while also having less experience in total to pass on to children who were born before. Western world has it backwards. In the past, people knew that children have no much experience, but they allowed them to gain experience. Today, West uses the argument of children not having the experience to prevent children from even gaining experience. And then they complain about why their children are stupid and incapable even at age 18. It is simple. Protecting children from truth cannot make them understand truth. This is true by tautology.
- All this is true. Indeed, it's all one way of life, healthy stable & sustainable. I'd add, women tend to live by their peers, social validation. It used to be that a woman's status in society was associated with her husband's or father's class & nobility. Today, it's associated with her career among her female friends. – Mothers who grow up mothers find their social circles with other mothers, they thrive more as mothers. & the cycle continues. Career chasing women can not thrive as mothers while at the same time maintaining their career status.

You can even see how brainless people in the West are. They are clueless about birth rates and clueless about how reproduction works. They are quick to condemn all child marriages, but they have no any understanding about them except the very limited stupid view which media and education gave them. Today, they lack knowledge which all their ancestors had. Its a clear proof that government programs people. Government, in just 100 years, managed to eradicate tens of thousands of years of tradition and replace it with an entirely new completely opposite opinion which never existed before in history anywhere.
- This deeply deeply saddens me indeed. School, aka state sponsored indoctrination facility to produce slaves, destroyed thousands of years of cumulative knowledge of thousands of peoples around the world in a single generation. Nothing else in my view comes remotely close to the level of destruction the School inflicted on Human Civilization.

There are some countries with age of consent at 14, like Germany. But there is a difference between age of consent and age of marriage and reproduction. Generally, if sex is encouraged while reproduction is discouraged, it doesnt help birth rates much.
- It does the opposite effect. In fact, in most Muslim countries marital age & consent age (western style) are the same (around 18), yet birth rates haven't dropped as much. Sex continues to be linked to reproduction.

We see today that countries with highest birth rates like Niger are the ones with very low age of consent, but also very low age of marriage and age of reproduction.
Today, in USA, even if 12 year old gets pregnant, she is  condemned and shamed. There were even shows publicly shaming young mothers in USA on TV. This is the world which claims it protects children.
Also, what most people fail to understand is that sexual urges dont start at 18.
Sexual urges sometimes start even before age 10.
But these people would rather have kids watching porn and doing unsafe sex than to allow them to marry and do it in a safe way.
In USA, 30% of children under age 11 watched porn. It goes to 50% for those under 13, and over 30% of all people had sex at 15 or earlier. 
So all they achieved with banning child marriages is that now there is still plenty of sex, but outside of marriage and with multiple sex partners.
- Preach, brother. I been saying this for years, I am glad people are waking up to it. Unfortunately, most, especially Whites, don't realize by supporting this stuff they are dooming themselves to annihilation. 

Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@Shila
With 90% of Gaza destroyed and 90% of the Palestinians displaced in Gaza and 41 thousand killed. What did Hamas achieve by killing 14 hundred Jews?
- It was 6 million Jews.

Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
Suspicion confirmed, but I do have a lingering question about your claim here:
- 'Best' assumes a reference of conduct in war. There is none anywhere in US Law, or for any other western country.
I’m not sure what you even mean with this claim— what about international laws of warfare, the US Law of War, and US Rules of Engagement?
- These are not legally binding whatsoever. Yes, any organization has a guide, manual, rulebook... even the one that kills 25 million innocent people, or all those ones that killed collectively half a billion people. Say, is an Iraqi whose house got destroyed by an American strike entitled to compensation from the US government? No. There is no Human rights in the West, rather National rights promoted as Human rights... US Law does not protect the rights or provide any legal recourse to non-nationals.
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
These are not legally binding whatsoever. Yes, any organization has a guide, manual, rulebook... even the one that kills 25 million innocent people, or all those ones that killed collectively half a billion people. Say, is an Iraqi whose house got destroyed by an American strike entitled to compensation from the US government? No. There is no Human rights in the West, rather National rights promoted as Human rights... US Law does not protect the rights or provide any legal recourse to non-nationals.
But that wasn’t your original claim:

'Best' assumes a reference of conduct in war. There is none anywhere in US Law, or for any other western country.
Then you move the posts to the opposite of what you just said:

Yes, any organization has a guide, manual, rulebook
Do you not see your contradiction?

So, there IS a reference of conduct in war according to your 2nd claim. Also, the US makes efforts to follow international law, even if it isn’t “legally binding.” As for rules of engagement (ROE), a soldier can be court martialled and sent to prison for not following them. That seems pretty legally binding to me.

Suspicion doubly confirmed…

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
Say, is an Iraqi whose house got destroyed by an American strike entitled to compensation from the US government? No. 
Yes:



Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
But that wasn’t your original claim:

'Best' assumes a reference of conduct in war. There is none anywhere in US Law, or for any other western country.
- It is. Manual =/= US Law... TF?

Then you move the posts to the opposite of what you just said:

Yes, any organization has a guide, manual, rulebook
Do you not see your contradiction?
- There are none.

So, there IS a reference of conduct in war according to your 2nd claim. Also, the US makes efforts to follow international law, even if it isn’t “legally binding.” As for rules of engagement (ROE), a soldier can be court martialled and sent to prison for not following them. That seems pretty legally binding to me.
- False. Are you dumb?! Even you would be offended if US Law protected non-US nationals. 

Suspicion doubly confirmed…
- Childish. Doesn't help how utterly meager your claim to "human rights" is. Boast to your drinking buddies, not here.

Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
Yes:
- No. Stop dreaming. Your country ain't that. Your refusal to admit it isn't gunna change that fact. It's getting embarrassing.

- Sympathy payment =/= legal entitlement to compensation. Otherwise millions of Iraqis & Vietnamese & 50 other nationalities will sue the US government for damages. & trillions of dollars of compensation would be issued by law, not 4 million dollars of sympathy payments for whatever reason. 

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
Childish
Oh, the irony. And complete confirmation of my prediction. Way too much “my people do no wrong, whereas your people do no right” cultism for me… or anyone, I would predict…


Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
Oh, the irony. And complete confirmation of my prediction. Way too much “my people do no wrong, whereas your people do no right” cultism for me… or anyone, I would predict…
- This isn't an argument & doesn't change any of the facts that your nations are worse than almost any other in History when it comes to warfare (& other things). You're projecting. I know some who were like you until they came to terms with the reality they've been indoctrinated into. Don't let your identity be tied to how specially better your culture is over all others! Such that every thing you spout oozes with self-justification arrogance. It's inferiority complex. 

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,890
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Yassine
Have a good one.

Yassine
Yassine's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,201
3
2
6
Yassine's avatar
Yassine
3
2
6
-->
@cristo71
Have a good one.
- You as well.

Mall
Mall's avatar
Debates: 414
Posts: 2,246
4
4
4
Mall's avatar
Mall
4
4
4
-->
@Yassine
Are you a US citizen?