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@Vader
I'm not convinced that there are two killing roles. Also, I just said why you're probably town.
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Did you forget to add someone to the purgatory thread?
I don't make mistakes.

Enough with your conspiracy theory
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Even with 14 players, I think 2 town killing roles might be a bit much, especially if one is vigilante
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Really thinking Vader shot correctly now lol.
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@Mharman
Did you forget to add someone to the purgatory thread?
I DMed Wylted this and he said he didn’t make a mistake and that it’s up to me to figure out what it means. I think it means Savant was indeed scum because in the purgatory thread, it says:

“Purgatory ends when all the demons have been eliminated.”

“You may not exorcize demons until the pre-determined in game actions have occurred.  You may not post in this thread unless you have been tagged by me.”


I assume it mean demons = scum. And naturally, demons can’t be in purgatory
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I'm going to guess so. May have been a dick move on my part to use that. Sorry Wylted
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@iamanabanana
VTL Banana
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@WyIted
vote count?
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I don't think Savant's non-flip has anything to do with Greyparrot's new role. Bio-engineer doesn't seem to match Savant's entry. Most likely scenario is scum's flip being hidden on death.
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I’m pretty sure that was sarcasm over the fact that he doesn’t know what his role does
Could be, but you get why I'd have much preferred if it he said that rather than declare that anyone who questions him on it is a bitch/scum/idiot? Such hyperbolic hostility makes me read him as someone trying to hide behind ad hominem attacks, rather than answering really easy to answer questions.
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Could be, but you get why I'd have much preferred if it he said that rather than declare that anyone who questions him on it is a bitch/scum/idiot? Such hyperbolic hostility makes me read him as someone trying to hide behind ad hominem attacks, rather than answering really easy to answer questions.
Eh. He called all of us actual fucking trolls last time he was mislynched as town. I wouldn't take it personally.
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Sometimes GP just... says stuff like that. For better or for worse.
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@Mharman
Who do you think was the bio engineer?
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@Greyparrot
Not sure. There are inactives who haven't had time to answer Pie's question about who has your role now.
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I think Greyparrot is town. I've decided.
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My memory of Wylted discussing incels seems to be mistaken. Looks like it was RM: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4759-blackred-pill-vs-blue-pill
I remember the conversation being longer, but not worth continuing to dig as it was a false lead.
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Sorry about the inactivity guys. Life's been hectic. 

I've decided to come clean - My vanilla thing was totally a fake claim. I'm the counter part to the Evil Cookie Giver. I'm the Good Cookie Giver. My essay is about the necessity of attempting to do good in an evil world.

I win if I can distribute five cookies. I go to hell if I distribute less than three. I can also win by surviving. 

If you eat a good cookie, you go to heaven, and vice versa. If you reject a good cookie, the angels who ate the cookies have vendetta of sorts on the ones who rejected.

So, uh, can we be friends?
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Also VTL Banana for claim
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Catching up. Please let me know if I missed something, but I'm going to try to cover all the recent revelations.

Looks like JoeBob fullclaimed. Given how many people have an FoS on him or just straight up have him in their scum pools as well as the nature of his claim, I guess I can understand why he'd claim without much direct pressure. The claim itself is... odd. Can't say I've ever heard of the "Vital Coward" role and it didn't come up on Mafia Universe, but then most of the claims so far haven't, certainly haven't seen a Crab God on there. The tie to "frozen jesus" is even stranger, though given what I've seen from WyIted so far with the flips, claims and my own PM, I'd say any attempt to understand the basis for selecting the characters that we've been given is going to be fraught. The claim doesn't shift my perception of JoeBob much, but at minimum, I can see this kind of weird negative utility getting added to the game to amp up confusion.

Pie makes some fair points regarding why he views the claim as SOP (the random redirect would be a pain to piece together, though he wouldn't have known last DP about Vader's Vig), but I don't see why a scum JoeBob would have a role that essentially grants them an auto-redirect of the Vig shot if it's used on them.


And it appears GP has lost his divinity, replaced with an already used Role Swap. Odd choice for scum to take a role with no idea of what it even does. If Savant was the one who did it, I'd be surprised because that character, Israel's suspicious activity during 9-11, and the journal entry don't really suggest anything like a Bio-Engineer. It would be a stretch, so that suggests someone else did it. Regardless, I don't see what value there is in GP faking this, so I'm townreading him. 

In response to Pie, no. I was not responsible for this. I'm afraid Crustacean Mt. Olympus will forever be closed to the likes of me. Doesn't help that it's not kosher.


Good point about Purgatory. I hadn't even noticed the separate thread, but it does look as though Savant is absent from it. Given Earth's and Casey's presences in Purgatory and Savant's absence, it at least suggests something distinct with Savant, and given that that's a TP and town in Purgatory, that suggests Savant's scum. Not sure what to make of the demon aspect, but it might confirm that. Odd that they're not able to specify whether they received a cookie, maybe that explains some of Banana's earlier words about rejecting someone?
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@Owen_T
Sorry about the inactivity guys. Life's been hectic. 

I've decided to come clean - My vanilla thing was totally a fake claim. I'm the counter part to the Evil Cookie Giver. I'm the Good Cookie Giver. My essay is about the necessity of attempting to do good in an evil world. 

I win if I can distribute five cookies. I go to hell if I distribute less than three. I can also win by surviving. 

If you eat a good cookie, you go to heaven, and vice versa. If you reject a good cookie, the angels who ate the cookies have vendetta of sorts on the ones who rejected. 

So, uh, can we be friends?
So who did you give a cookie to yesterday and why, and what happened?
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@Owen_T
I've decided to come clean - My vanilla thing was totally a fake claim. I'm the counter part to the Evil Cookie Giver. I'm the Good Cookie Giver. My essay is about the necessity of attempting to do good in an evil world.

I win if I can distribute five cookies. I go to hell if I distribute less than three. I can also win by surviving. 

If you eat a good cookie, you go to heaven, and vice versa. If you reject a good cookie, the angels who ate the cookies have vendetta of sorts on the ones who rejected.
Alright then, that's different. Based on her responses, it looks as though you tried to give a cookie to Banana, is that accurate? Why did you go with the fake claim?
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I was trying to stay under cover. I know that "good" is better than "evil" but you still probably would have lynched me (still time for that)

I realized I couldn't possibly distribute even three cookies pretending to be Earth so here we are. In hindsight, definitely should have confessed earlier. I was just in a time squeeze.
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I did give the cookie to banana.
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My message was "Death isn't the end, only the beginning" because I was trying to pretend to be earth so I didn't get caught.
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@Owen_T
I did give the cookie to banana.
That's one mystery solved. She was saying something about believing Earth was still around. Unless he's doing something squirrely in Purgatory, it's at least clear that you have the Cookie Giver role, though that still leaves questions about why his role says "Removed" in the OP.

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@Owen_T
If you eat a good cookie, you go to heaven, and vice versa. If you reject a good cookie, the angels who ate the cookies have vendetta of sorts on the ones who rejected. 

So, uh, can we be friends?
What does going to heaven entail? And what does the vendetta do?
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I did give the cookie to banana.
OH lol. 

Why the hell would Banana reject that?
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Owen is innocent.
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Town:
Greyparrot
Pie
Casey (dead)

Other Innocent:
Owen

Mafia:
Savant (dead)
+ 2 more?

Other guilty:
Earth (dead)
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Honestly I'm shocked Earth didn't gaf about his wincon