I guess he just wasn't feeling it
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@whiteflame
That's one mystery solved. She was saying something about believing Earth was still around. Unless he's doing something squirrely in Purgatory, it's at least clear that you have the Cookie Giver role, though that still leaves questions about why his role says "Removed" in the OP.
Where did you see the part where she thought Earth was still around?
I'm gonna go reread the game thus far while waiting on a Banana claim. I'll add my vote to the wagon after Wylted posts a vote count. Things certainly aren't looking good for Banana, so I might be eating crow soon.
Oh and Vader is added to the town list, forgot about him
I hate buying the lie that Pie said because in general lying as town unless it's for a good reason is scummy, but honestly the way he set it up hinted that he was going to be some type of role. I'm still interested how he got the transgender fake claim though.
I have a pretty decent town read on him
I have a pretty decent town read on him
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@Vader
I hate buying the lie that Pie said because in general lying as town unless it's for a good reason is scummy, but honestly the way he set it up hinted that he was going to be some type of role. I'm still interested how he got the transgender fake claim though.I have a pretty decent town read on him
U mean Owen?
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@ILikePie5
@Owen_T
Where did you see the part where she thought Earth was still around?
I apparently mixed up my sources. It was Owen who said this:
I can't disclose much information, but I have reason to believe Earth isn't actually completely out of the game. I think you might still have influence over the game once you go to heaven/hell.
And now that I see it again... yeah, I think I misunderstood it. Rereading it places it in the context of the Purgatory thread and whatever's going on with heaven and hell. Is that what you meant by Earth not being out of the game, Owen?
Wait a minute. If going to heaven is tied to a cookie, why would going to hell be tied to being mafia? Wouldn’t it be tied to Earth’s cookies instead?
Could it be that the cookie givers can give out cookies after death? It should be noted that Earth said he could win by surviving, or by giving out enough cookies. Surviving seeming to be optional if he gave out his cookies.
Earth did seem to be ok with dying, which in theory would have cost him the ability the win the game. But not if he can give out cookies after death.
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@whiteflame
Oh yup. That confirms it… which means we can’t really be certain Vader shot correctly based on Savant being in hell. But then why would Savant accept such a cookie? Perhaps there is some reward for doing so.
I wonder what the incentives of the cookies are, if any exist
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@Mharman
Oh yup. That confirms it… which means we can’t really be certain Vader shot correctly based on Savant being in hell. But then why would Savant accept such a cookie? Perhaps there is some reward for doing so.
I'm not really sure I get the cookies or how they relate with Purgatory. Earth couldn't have handed one out before he died (the timing lines up pretty closely with his death in DP1), so he would have somehow had to grant them in Purgatory... except Savant never made it to Purgatory, so I don't know how he could have received it. His absence from Purgatory suggests something separate. That seems related to the demon aspect, his potentially being scum, or both. Maybe I'm missing some other element, not sure if the hidden flip is just a delayed appearance that would be followed by his entering Purgatory.
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@whiteflame
Does Earth hand out cookies to others in purgatory?
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@whiteflame
Correct me if I’m wrong… But is it not possible for Earth to hand out cookies to living players from purgatory?
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@Owen_T
It says Earth’s affiliation is Evil Cookie God but his role is hidden.
@Owen
What is your affiliation and what is your role and what’s the justification for you being good cookie giver
Wylted just said that those who eat the cookies go to heaven where I will join them at my own death. He says I will lead my angels to destroy those who rejected my holy cookies.
So I'm not really sure what's going on I'm just gonna feed people cookies.
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@Mharman
Does Earth hand out cookies to others in purgatory?Correct me if I’m wrong… But is it not possible for Earth to hand out cookies to living players from purgatory?
That's a good question and one to which I have no answer. If Earth can interact with others outside of Purgatory, that changes things, since anyone living could be receiving a cookie from either Owen or Earth. And I guess if Savant received a cookie before being Vig'd by Vader, that could explain his absence from Purgatory.
My affiliation is - you guessed it - "good cookie giver"
My life's purpose is to give out cookies. That's because my essay is about needing to do good in an evil world. It's pretty similar to Earth's but more optimistic.
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@ILikePie5
Whoopsie yeah meant Owen.
Yeah I am lowkey lost asf with this cookie giver stuff
I am a bit lost with some of the cookie giver stuff. Don't know what more to say and what else there can be said. Like I said before, mechanically speaking there is no way that Savant is town with a role that hides his flip. If you believe that Earth gave him a cookie that does that, then idk. Why would Earth do this though?
Don't get how that logically intertwines at all
I think we need to focus on scum and town.
Don't get how that logically intertwines at all
I think we need to focus on scum and town.
For the integrity of the game no more discussion of cookies, who received them. Who handed them out and whether a person said yes or no. No hinting like " I said no last night"
Nothing. Discussions of cookies and cookies givers is off limits
There is to be no discussion in the scum chat either please.
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@Owen_T
I’m highly in favor of keeping Owen alive. Killing third party yesterday was in part because we didn’t have any leads.
And if course if visited I will accept.
I am sorry I've been super busy today. I don't know why I am being voted over vader. The functionality behind my role is that if I am killed or lynched I can select any player I want to die. I was hoping to be the night kill, which is why I didn't want to reveal this, but I guess the cat is out of the bag now.
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@Mharman
Even with 14 players, I think 2 town killing roles might be a bit much, especially if one is vigilante
You are correct about this, I doubt there is two killing roles. It sucks you town read vader, but if I am lynched I will just take him out anyway, so we should get one mafia regardless, would be nice if we could just out right lynch him though. Doesn't seem I have any pull to make that kind of lynch happen though. So I guess I'll just tell you I told you so later.
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@Owen_T
I did give the cookie to banana.
What does the cookie do?
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@WyIted
For the integrity of the game no more discussion of cookies, who received them. Who handed them out and whether a person said yes or no. No hinting like " I said no last night"Nothing. Discussions of cookies and cookies givers is off limitsThere is to be no discussion in the scum chat either please.
oops nvm ignore my last post
Is anyone going to help me lynch vader or am I going to have to waste my role doing it?
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@WyIted
Complete BS but I’ll go with it
Anyway, I just got done with reading DP1. Wrote some notes on some of the things that seemed notable to me, for both possible townreads and scumreads.
Will be mulling them over in the morning, with a read and note taking of this DP as well.
Took 2 hours btw. Goodnight, don’t expect me to be active in the morning. If awake, I will be groggy.