Hell Diary DP 1

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We have 14 people, and scum benefit the longer we drag this on. The deadline is fast approaching. I think we should get a few claims at the very least.
I’m fine getting claims from Mharman/Banana/Owen. 
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If I chose between the two I would like Owen's. It feels like Owen is just doing minimal effort posts and I can't gauge anything with his reads. 
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I personally would like to hear from Lunatic. 

Who else wants my claim?
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I’m fine getting claims from Mharman/Banana/Owen.
I'm down with that. Vote Owen for a claim, then we can go to the others.

I personally would like to hear from Lunatic. 
If you claim now, I'll support you on this.
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See above.
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Are you okay with just the subject? 
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Are you okay with just the subject? 
No, full claim 
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Well it feels stupid to give scum more information. Someone could cc me on just the subject. 
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Im sheeping you
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My essay is about Wylted's views on Transgenders. 
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Yes, that is the only reason. Behavior shifts are indicative of scum.
Not in every case. Some noob trying to get good at reads is the mark of someone trying to get gud. It is not suddenly a scumtell.

I got the justification. Then role at the end. And then Wylted clarified that X was my character. I’m 
Yeah, alarm bells.



There’s zero utility in me giving up my information right now. I will give it when I see fit. You don’t know how scum might screw up. I do.

Why do you care so much? I’m going to reveal it by the time the DP ends. There’s zero town benefit for me to tell it right now
It's not just what you know. It's your character and your role, with a brief synopsis of your entry. I'm scanning everything for a fake claim or something spun as town, because I think you were bullshitting us with your "info" for town cred.

You will give it when you get to L-1 or you will get lynched. Go ahead and put up your front; it won't work. There isn't much that can save you here- just a fullclaim or someone else giving hard evidence you're town.

Casey’s MO doesn’t feel off. I dislike Mharman more. He’s just buddying Casey and obsessed with what information I might how. And he was trying to play both sides with respect to his read on Owen.
You mean thinking things through, and conceding points where reasonable. And buddying Casey? My willingness to work with her does not mean I automatically have a townread. You can be confident I am keeping tabs on Casey's behavior. Why do you think I ask people questions? It's not just to get help from them.

If that’s the case, why hasn’t he done that for anyone else. As for whether she would do that as scum or not, she’s only played scum once, and I caught her that game DP1. She’s still a noob
Wylted is strange. No offense, but he is unusual, even for this site. I can see him writing a whole ass rant about Israel vs Hamas. And the difference between here and Bo Burnham is that Banana made a shitty push on you that lacked good reasoning back then. Looks like the script has flipped here.

My point is that my “bad logic” has led to mislynches when I’m town too.
Are you second guessing your read on Banana here?

I’m not afraid of OMGUS :)
"Hey guys, I'm being bold! I'm town, see?"
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I am currently vanilla but I am told I will gain an ability later in the game 
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Pie has been on some very terrible pushes. First Banana, now Owen.

Apparently saying you have a long PM, but you got what you needed from it- and trying to get good at reading people, is scummy in his eyes.

Let's get his full claim.
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This is whatbI expect from Pie tbh. If he finds something, he'll chase it even if it means barking up the wrong tree. Or maybe he just wants to pressure someone, no matter what.
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Honestly the fact that Owen is claiming with such little pressure and being this cooperative tells me he's town. Was null, but he and Banana are my town reads.
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I've been developing a slow but now persistent headache over the course of the evening, which has made this difficult to read and process (don't take that as a referendum on how they're written, though this is a lot of back-and-forth, so that doesn't help). I'm caught up, but I think staring at the screen is making this worse and my thoughts don't type so good, so I'm going to take a break for a bit and come back after the Tylenol's taken effect.
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The logic is terrible. Even using semantics about what counts as "reading." I think he's forcing some reads.
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@Lunatic
Thoughts on what's been going on?
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If you think you have some hard evidence Pie is town, better say so quick. I'm open-minded and no, I DO NOT need to know what the evidence is. aIf you have something, I'd have to conclude you and Pie are scum buddies (which is unlikely, so I'm not gonna) for Pie to remain a scumread of mine.

I'd like to either clear Pie or lynch him. The latter is more likely, but if he's town moving on from him to Lunatic sooner rather than later would be great.
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Owen is town. Let's move onto Pie.
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I'm torn about pie. You all know him better than I do so I'll stand to the side here.

Is the omgus normal with him?
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Owen's claim and quickness to claim makes me lean town on him. He did so pretty much without any major pressure too. 

And honestly, I actually think I'm buying the claim consider what I think Wylted's view of transgenders are. My issue that it could be town negative
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Not in every case. Some noob trying to get good at reads is the mark of someone trying to get gud. It is not suddenly a scumtell.
Or it’s a scum trying to blend in.

Yeah, alarm bells.
Good for you

It's not just what you know. It's your character and your role, with a brief synopsis of your entry. I'm scanning everything for a fake claim or something spun as town, because I think you were bullshitting us with your "info" for town cred.
Why would I bullshit? If I don’t reveal the information, then I’m scum. If I wanted to use it to my advantage, I would wait till there was adequate suspicion on me to get it off of me with this, not say it upfront.

You will give it when you get to L-1 or you will get lynched. Go ahead and put up your front; it won't work. There isn't much that can save you here- just a fullclaim or someone else giving hard evidence you're town.
You can try. It’s not going to happen. I’ll give it before the end of the DP anyways. You either believe me or you don’t. If you believe I’m being genuine, then I’m town, and it doesn’t matter that I’ll give it at end of DP. If you think I’m scum, then just lynch me, why care about whatever info I’m going to give?

You mean thinking things through, and conceding points where reasonable. And buddying Casey? My willingness to work with her does not mean I automatically have a townread. You can be confident I am keeping tabs on Casey's behavior. Why do you think I ask people questions? It's not just to get help from them.
You were quick to join the wagon after Casey voted for me and not before. 

Wylted is strange. No offense, but he is unusual, even for this site. I can see him writing a whole ass rant about Israel vs Hamas. And the difference between here and Bo Burnham is that Banana made a shitty push on you that lacked good reasoning back then. Looks like the script has flipped here.
What are you talking about? Banana hasn’t pushed me at all. She’s been quiet for a while. 

Are you second guessing your read on Banana here?
No, I still think I’m right. I’m just saying Casey’s reason to sus be is NAI coming from me cause I’ve done it both as town and scum.

"Hey guys, I'm being bold! I'm town, see?"
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I'm torn about pie. You all know him better than I do so I'll stand to the side here.

Is the omgus normal with him?
You’re not doing yourself any favors
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@Mharman
If you think you have some hard evidence Pie is town, better say so quick. I'm open-minded and no, I DO NOT need to know what the evidence is. aIf you have something, I'd have to conclude you and Pie are scum buddies (which is unlikely, so I'm not gonna) for Pie to remain a scumread of mine.
Actually, after his last response to me in our back-and-forth, I'm convinced that Pie does actually know something after all. I won't divulge too much; but he worded things the way he did because he knows something, and knows that I know it as well. It's just a question of whether he knows that because of having an informational town role or an informational mafia role.
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Owen's claim and quickness to claim makes me lean town on him. He did so pretty much without any major pressure too. 
Don’t care about this

And honestly, I actually think I'm buying the claim consider what I think Wylted's view of transgenders are. My issue that it could be town negative
I agree with this.

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VTL Mharman
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Let’s get Mharman now

VTL Mharman
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VTL MHARMAN
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Does your role cause chaos for town?

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Does your role cause chaos for town?
Potentially.