In the meantime, i will be thinking about others. I don’t know how I feel on Casey, Whiteflame, and Barney yet so I’ll read into them.
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oh and Savant
And Greyparrot. I dont fully buy his claim either. On one hand Crab God with some unknown power sounds like a Wylted move, on the other, Greyparrot got caught off claiming rolecop last game and I wonder if the tactic is to evade such a thing. Gut tells me to believe him, but I’m very cautious about it. I think if he really was looking to avoid last game's problem he might try something else.
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@ILikePie5
Oh and there’s also Joebob Austin and Earth. I almost forgot about them with how little they’ve been posting.
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@ILikePie5
I did not mean to ping you in the above message.
Anyway, here’s a question: Does your info have information on another player? I may or may not be willing to back off depending on your answer.
Something about that feels odd. I have a gut feeling Casey going straight to Pie and then Mharman coming onto Pie within the hour. I don't like it and it's not because I think they are lynching the wrong person, but just feels staged.
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@Vader
I literally just check the thread periodically lol
Luna's and Pie's tunnel vision is definitely weird. At least Pie is generally aggressive. If this behavior out of the ordinary of Luna?
From mharman's pov, I think Luna is less likely to be town though than Pie. I am kind town reading Pie because I feel he's usually pretty aggressive as town at pursuing lynches and making sure things are perfection. He usually goes for flawlesness and questions basic things. If Pie were scum I feel like he's be less relaxed and just hop on a wagon to hop on the wagon. Seems to invested into Banana to be scum
Oh Austin’s on a trip. That’s right.
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@Mharman
I know it's usually nothing and my gut feelings are like 50% wrong most of the time but idk sometimes I just feel weird about stuff that could be so miniscule
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@Vader
@Casey_Risk
At this point it’s hard for me to decide who’s scummier. Pie’s semantics were such an egregiously bad argument (plus what I said in post 179) and I haven’t seen how Lunatic responds to my reply yet. The latter is probably the saving grace for me not going for Lunatic instead here.
I guess it is worth asking Casey tho, you have a point there, even if that’s not the point you intended to make.
Casey, do you wanna switch onto Lunatic to give Pie some time for whatever he’s planning or do you wanna stay the course on him?
I honestly don’t care who we go for first anymore, I think I’m gonna end up pushing both anyway
As of now I suspect Lunatic.
VTL Luna
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@Earth
@Barney
@Savant
@JoeBob
Thoughts on the current happenings? Pie and Lunatic? Casey? Others in this game? Me if you want?
Asking cause the four of you have either been inactive today, said little about others, or haven’t seen the current situation yet.
(Earth I don’t need your thoughts on Banana- you’ve given those already. Unless you something more to add, which I doubt).
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@Owen_T
I take it you’re opposed to going for Pie?
Not necessarily apposed but I would prefer Luna.
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@Owen_T
Ok. I think I’ll just leave my vote where it is for now and see what happens. I’ll be back after 8
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@WyIted
Im generally in favor of longer day phases, but not too long, and never as a last minute change.
I consider it a bastard move when day phase end before people even have the chance to interact… at the same time, when scum counting down the clock shouldn’t suffer moved goalposts (I don’t consider this to matter dp1).
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@Casey_Risk
^ up here
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@Mharman
Thoughts on the current happenings?
I don't think scum would come out and draw attention to themselves, so I'm inclined to townread Luna. Also iamanabanana seemed townie and I suspect Luna is overthinking what they said about their PM. Owen's vote on Luna seemed a bit opportunistic. Not that it's a huge thing, but not many people have done anything scummy.
VTL Owen, since we need to get things going.
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@Lunatic
Because I cannot fathom a townie not doing the most basic and easy thing they can do to help town by reading their OWN role pm.
Not every line of a PM is going to matter. One could read the first and last, and be good to play. If they end up really needing the defend the role justification, then more, but in the mean time I don’t see what town would gain from them reading a lengthy journey entry about some potentially boring subject.
Also, at least for DP1 not knowing if you have a power role, makes it impossible for scum to read from your actions if you have a power role. May be a suboptimal strategy, but it’s been done in plenty of games.
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@Vader
If Pie were scum I feel like he's be less relaxed and just hop on a wagon to hop on the wagon. Seems to invested into Banana to be scum
I disagree. Scum Pie actively (and successfully) pushed Savant in DP1 of UPick Mafia and also aggressively pushed Moozer during DP1 of Mayday Mafia. This is absolutely in line with his scum play, and that's why I don't like it.
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@Mharman
Casey, do you wanna switch onto Lunatic to give Pie some time for whatever he’s planning or do you wanna stay the course on him?
Tbh, I want claims from both of them. I don't really care much about the order in which we get claims, but I want to keep pressure on both of them for now. I don't know what Pie is supposedly planning, but given how he's already announced publicly that he has some sort of information, I don't know how effective his plan to catch scum will even be. My gut also has me slightly more sus of Pie than Luna. I'm keeping my vote on Pie for now.
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@Mharman
Thoughts on the current happenings? Pie and Lunatic? Casey? Others in this game? Me if you want?Asking cause the four of you have either been inactive today, said little about others, or haven’t seen the current situation yet.
I think the whole thing between Pie and Luna against Ana seems a bit ridiculous. Half of these pages are only about the fact that she didn't decide to read 18 texts about the Israel vs Hamas war. Like Barney said, you don't need to read the whole text in order to understand what's going on, but just first couple and last couple lines of it.
Also what about Casey are you separating them from everyone else for?
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@Casey_Risk
I don't like Pie and Luna's reasoning for sussing Banana. I think it was obvious that she didn't read the entire PM because it wasn't necessary to understand the justification for her role. Pie in particular is reminding me of DP1 of UPick Mafia, where he excoriated Savant for making a mistake as town. Granted, the way Savant used his role was stupid, but the fact that he even thought confirming himself as a Vote Thief would be a good move was evidence of a townie thought process, not a scummy one. Here, the supposedly scummy behavior is far more minor and unimportant, but Pie and Luna are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, and I don't like it one bit. I think it might be a good idea to push one of them for a claim.VTL Pie
The mountain out of a molehill got GP lynched albeit you being the one to lead it. All the townies agreed. I don’t think she’s being genuine. I think 14 pages is a hyperbole. I haven’t seen anyone say their PM was that long. She’s an anomaly.
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@Owen_T
As Mharman mentioned, I took a little break from mafia. This is because I was doing terribly at the game. (No explanation needed) I had a bit of extra time so I decided to give it another swing and make myself a little bit more tolerable of a player instead of just sitting there and doing nothing.Is that the only reason you find me suspicious?
Yes, that is the only reason. Behavior shifts are indicative of scum.
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@Mharman
Btw with the way my PM is structured, the justification was given before Wylted’s tangent, and think it’s a given that Banana’s PM followed this structure.If yours isnt structured in such a way, that would be ringing alarm bells for me.
I got the justification. Then role at the end. And then Wylted clarified that X was my character. I’m
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@ILikePie5
The mountain out of a molehill got GP lynched albeit you being the one to lead it. All the townies agreed.
That wasn't a mere molehill. GP's claim was inherently very sus, and his behavior only hurt his case further. Plus, he had a bona fide scum slip by the end of the day.
I think 14 pages is a hyperbole. I haven’t seen anyone say their PM was that long. She’s an anomaly.
That's better reasoning, but you have to consider that this is Wylted we're talking about here. A long diary entry about the Israel-Hamas conflict is hardly inexplicable. I don't think scum Banana would likely choose to make herself stand out in that way.
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@Mharman
I know Pie says he’s got info that could trip up scum, but at this point with my concerns on him it’s not worth it. Some parts of his thought process feel natural, but the read on Banana is egregious and some of the points feels forced. Not a fan of the semantics. Plus if he’s town id rather have the his information anyway. If he’s willing to give the info later this DP, I can only conclude if he’s town he’s withholding it for what would be a small min-max on an off-chance scum screws up in some vague way, which I’d be willing to give up.VTL Pie
There’s zero utility in me giving up my information right now. I will give it when I see fit. You don’t know how scum might screw up. I do.