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@Casey_Risk
Do you townread or scumread Pie?
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Working on my own reads rn
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@Mharman
Pie is town
Do you townread or scumread Pie?
Great question. I still think his sus on Banana is stupid, but he clearly does actually have information on the game like he said he did. With only relatively few of us being active, I am beginning to wonder if you vs Pie is a town v town fight that scum are letting play out for their own benefit. I had a scumread on him before, but now I'm unsure what to think of Pie.
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@Mharman
Let's say you’re actually both town and know something. Do you think mafia knows that same piece of information that you know?
No
Additionally, do you townread Casey? I assume you do, considering you accused me off buddying her earlier.
Yes I do
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@Greyparrot
Pie is town
Crabs are town. You are a Crab. Therefore, you are town
I don't like JoeBob's dissmissiveness of giving thoughtful reads. He just says, "I already stated my reasons" and then doesn't go more in depth about the game. I think I can chalk it up to pure laziness but it's very anti town. Not necessarily scummy though since he's being lazy just making reads, and not necessarily his voting
just making no reads* #337
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@ILikePie5
@WyIted
Can I get hard mod confirmation that crabs are inherently town?
kthxbai
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@Savant
Ok so you have your scum reads. Good. Who do you town read then? Seemed to be very focused on getting a lynch versus trying to sift through who's town and scum and narrowing a behavioral POE
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@Vader
We have 14 players. We're not going to solve this dp1 through PoE.
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@Savant
Your right, but you don't have any town behavioral analysis? You don't have town reads on anyone. Sure we can focus on lynches but there are more reads you can make
I'm putting Savant into my FoS pile.
Playing with Savant when he's town, he usually is keen to putting town reads in and not taking a back seat when it comes to day phases. Savant seems a bit hyperfocused on lynching scum and who we are going to lynch versus thoroughly going through the members and giving the reads on them. In fact when I mentioned it a bunch of times, he brushed it off. He also fits under the mold of taking a back seat and letting town go at each others throats.
Playing with Savant when he's town, he usually is keen to putting town reads in and not taking a back seat when it comes to day phases. Savant seems a bit hyperfocused on lynching scum and who we are going to lynch versus thoroughly going through the members and giving the reads on them. In fact when I mentioned it a bunch of times, he brushed it off. He also fits under the mold of taking a back seat and letting town go at each others throats.
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
For pie and luna and anyone still asking about my stupid role PM: I am sorry I didn't clarify this earlier, but my role justification and my role are in the first message, completely SEPERATE from the other 13 messages. The other 13 messages are like a journal entry or something. I know what my justification and role is without reading all that. Are you happy now? I guess I should have been more specific, didn't think you all would read into it so much...
Anyways catching up now
Notice Banana didn’t use any of the “excuses” I gave her. She’s town.
I have no idea why we are sussing banana. She was clear the first time.
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@iamanabanana
For pie and luna and anyone still asking about my stupid role PM: I am sorry I didn't clarify this earlier, but my role justification and my role are in the first message, completely SEPERATE from the other 13 messages. The other 13 messages are like a journal entry or something. I know what my justification and role is without reading all that. Are you happy now? I guess I should have been more specific, didn't think you all would read into it so much...Anyways catching up now
Alright thats all you had to say. unvote
I havent read the entire controversy line by line, but the effort in general between all three players makes it feel like it is town/town/town in regards to casey Mharmand and pie. Mharmans aggression feels townie, pie doesn't strike me oddly in any way, and casey is noticeably different then last game, and likely town. This may change but for now I am leaning the three of you as town.
Owens reads and remarks have been un-impressive, and I am not sure if he still gets the noob card. I am a little suspicious of him. Banana isn't clear for me, but i'd say shes NAI. Austin, joebob, whiteflame, GP, anyone else I haven't mentioned are null and I'll have to look into them when I have more time.
Like I said, I won't be the most participatory this day phase but I will do my best. Been playing a video game pretty hardcore this weekend, and havent diverted much attention to other things, but I WILL be active during my work week starting tomorrow night.
Doing significantly better some sleep and time away from the screen. I'll be spending much of the day working back through the DP to inform my reads.
Couple of notes:
WyIted did already mention when the DP would end: Tuesday, 6:30 PM EST. That sets us at just under 28 hours remaining in the DP.
Also, though I don't think there's much to update since Barney's original list, I'll add where I can:
1. Savant
2. Greyparrot. carcinization Crab God
3. lunatic
4. Pie has information
5. Casey
6. Mharman
7. Vader ??? Confirmable w/ 3 votes (savant, Pie, Owen… Lunatic)
8. Earth
11. Joebob
12. Austin confirmable
13. Barney. Has crabs
14. Whiteflame
If I missed anything, feel free to update it.
Player Character Role/Notes
Vader ??? Confirmable w/ 3 votes (savant, Pie, Owen… Lunatic) <<< Could be fake, but really not worth wasting time on until later rounds. I also like them catching behavioral oddities between Casey, Pie, and Mharman (#186), probably nothing, but a good sign that they're looking for behavior which doesn't quite grok.
Banana Hamas vs. Israel 14 message long role <<< This doesn't guarentee town, but pushing against it is a red flag to me. Mine was only two, but the second one was a journal entry, I suspect it's much the same for everyone else. A journal entry from Wylted could indeed be crazy long.
Whiteflame ??? ??? <<< High quality reads, no seeming artificial pushes. Cast doubt on the Banana push with the likelihood of scum roles being posted on discord thus not 14 separate messages (I know there's still a character limit, but if memory serves much less of one).
Earth ??? PM was a few messages long (also #174), <<< While not active, seems calm and collected.
Savant ????
Casey ??? Diary mostly useless. Potentially chaotic role <<< One note I will say, is their interaction with Pie doesn't feel at all staged (in summary #217), so if either flips scum, I assume the other is safe.
Mharman ???
Joebob ???
Austin ??? Confirmable <<< I know I've made jokes with some of you about "confirmable" roles. People either don't know what that means, and/or they just say they're confirmable DP1 to decrease the odds of being lynched.
Barney Camera Toilet <<< is self, so my opinions are biased (but to play to my meta, he's obviously scum!). I did however share good information that what we voted for probably has nothing to do with what role we got (#104).
Lunatic <<< Voted Vader after confirm condition reached, so slight distrust, but also an easy legit mistake. Also sewed distrust of Banana's PM (#48, #88).
Greyparrot carcinization Crab God bomb? <<< Null. If memory serves, he always shares his role first thing, so hard to tell anything by it. As for the bomb joke, I don't leap to conclusions about statements like that as being serious or even misdirection instead of simple dismissal. ... Seemed to vote for Banana out of nowhere, so leaning scum for acting opportunistically.
Pie ??? Has info <<< Latched onto the Banana must be scum thing, well after whiteflame's analysis of why 14 messages implied town (#141); they do however do a good job defending their doubt (#206).
Owen Transgenders Vanilla w/ powerups <<< Fast to town read white flame. Probably nothing, but it's come up. Also regarding #218, yes, that's how OMGUS works 😁 ... Actually, their claim has me sus now. As does their role (maybe I'm wrong, but I do think of Vanaillas as powerless, and other rules which power up with time as said roles instead of vanilla)
My gut says there is a third party. Wylted added people at the last minute, and this is a really big game, so third party seems like a fun way to handle the extras.
I've already mentioned it, bu
I'll add to my actual role information that mine is religious. I suspect we all are given the name Hell Diary; err, maybe scum are non-religious diary entries? *shrug* ... HOLY! I wrote the earlier part of this paragraph near the start of this round of dashboard edits, and doublechecking at the end Owen's claim slipped past me, but DAMN!
VTL Owen
Anyone else have a non-religious claim?
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@Barney
Mine doesn't involve religion.
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@Barney
Mine is not religious
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@Barney
Mine's not religious
Mine mentions Hell. So I guess religious.
Well, that theory didn’t hold.
Unvote
Unvote
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@Barney
My character does not have to do with religion.
I like Barney's effort in post #350. It seems to reflect a genuine thought process, and that's hard to convincingly produce as scum.
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@WyIted
Time check?
Uhhhh I just noticed we might have an hour…. Did wylted extend the DP or not?
Doesn’t look like it