Inheritance Cycle Mafia DP2

1. His targeting of me last night is one of the prime reasons I’ve amped up my suspicion on him. It was incredibly a reckless move and one that he had not indicated in the slightest. He never once mentioned scum reading me in the last day phase. Now he’s saying he was trying to clear me for town confirmation which makes it even sussier. Who cops someone to town clear them? Doesn’t that indicate inside knowledge that he already knew I was town? Also I think the motivation for targeting makes more sense for him to do as scum because he knew I was onto him last day phase and if I was an investigation role it would make sense to get rid of me as an issue. I had kind of expected to be roleblocked or night killed if was right about Wylted being suspicious and so when it turned out he vanillized me it really only made my scum read of him harder. Before the day phase though I was actually strongly trying to consider a world where Wylted was town. I primed him yes, but I wasn’t fully planning on igniting  if my read on him ended up changing later on.

2. The way he claimed. He was resistant to claiming when I asked and it made no sense to me since the role aspect was already revealed. At that point there is literally no reason not to claim. When I asked him why he claimed he said it was to help catch someone via CC. Who in their right mind would claim to be Galbatorix THE MAIN VILLAIN, did he think he was going to catch claiming that?

2A. Why didn’t he claim this immediately? He came out the gate saying his role was scummy but why not his character? You can say lack of theme knowledge but that’s not true is it? Based on his own description of his role it should be pretty clear his character is a villain so why didn’t he also say my “my role and character might come across as scummy”?

2B. Why did he randomly decide that it his previous logic of CCing someone didn’t apply once I had guessed at his character (to another person btw, wasn’t even talking to him)? The way he claimed immediately after I called out his character seemed like an “oh fuck he guessed my character” move. I feel like he panicked in that moment and decided to rely on WIFOM to spin him claiming the antagonist being a good thing for him. The fact that it’s worked so well for him is a large indication of why this was probably a smart move on his part but the fact that so many people bought into it at first is also what raises red flags for me. 

To your first point I’d say he should have used it either in negative utility or just waived it if town. If he had a strong scum read he was convinced of then maybe he could get a pass for it but that wasn’t the case as he stated, he thought I was town and wanted to town clear me. I have a hard time with that justification.

To your second point I agree, but also keep in mind pie almost never uses “cops”. Last time I was mafia in a pie game I asked if a cop existed, and was told no I believe. He uses variation style investigation roles that function similarly but a cop is extremely rare. I am keeping in mind that Wylted is trying to combine a cop with a vanillizer so technically it fits in the parameters of not being a cop, but it’s still something to note that he calls the ability a cop ability

Iirc, her ability allows her to sense pain and danger in people close to her - it's not something that I would immediately jump to as "oracle", but it's also not a glaring gap that I'd scumread Cerulean for.

I'd kinda expect her to more be a doc or maybe a watcher, but eh.

Also want to add that the fact he only has one vote and is somehow getting away with his claim, night actions, and behavior is another piece of evidence for him being scum - I feel like if he was town, scum would be dying to stack on him and grab the free mislynch here.

I think 1 is the strongest point here - the problem is that if Wylted has basically been forced to claim his true role if he's scum, then using his role in a pro-town way just wildly swings off the balance of the setup, given that a vanillaizer is a powerful role as both alignments - so it's hard to see what he would do other than using it on a town player.

Given that lynching nobody must inevitably lead to town defeat I guess I'll vote to lynch Wylted.

To your first point I’d say he should have used it either in negative utility or just waived it if town.

My role isn't called cop if that helps. It's called prober but functions like a cop. I specifically asked for it to be renamed anal prober so I anal probed you last NP. 

Seems like information you should have presented up front when you claimed the Cop part of your role. Was this another misguided attempt at a CC?

This is also why I lean scum on you

Seems like information you should have presented up front when you claimed the Cop part of your role. Was this another misguided attempt at a CC?

That statement. If that's how you believe you normally act.  You're mistaken. It's a smarmy statement that you don't typically use on somebody when you are town and think they are scum. It's just a fact. You might think you do, but you don't.