Why do you dislike Jews?

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A lot of Jews are incredibly smart. Albert Einstein for example. When I was the chief engineer of a corporation, one of my consultants was Jewish and he wore a 
yarmulke a lot. He had a PhD in engineering from MIT.
They get alblot of free passes though. Okay so if you look at engineers by average IQ, then engineers probably have a 140 average, but if you take the jews out the jews who are engineers will have a 130 IQ. So why would the average non jew need a higher IQ to achieve the same results? The reason must be that Jews are getting free handouts somewhere. If it was merit based, jews would need the same average IQ to make it just as far
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It would show that the stereotype is flawed and unreliable. 
Everyone knows they are unreliable.  It's just meant to make a quick judgement in the absence of other information. 

By invoking religion specifically for Jews (have you heard conversations that start "hey, do you know how many banks are run by Christians?") this creates, rather that endorses a stereotype. 
You know that most famous sci-fi authors are Mormon? It's interesting isn't it? Wouldn't knowing that help you get in their brain and help you to realize what attributes help them become science fiction writers, particularly if you yourself want to be one?

OH, we are? Is that something we decided at some huge meeting? I must have been out sick for that meeting and I didn't get anything from the central authority. Tell me more about what I'm doing. 
Are you denying that people like Karl Marx have a Jewish background or are you just strawmanning the position by pretending itnis a claim about a sort of cabal or some other nonsense?

I have no doubt that he did commit some of them. Are you saying, by the way, that you know the facts better than Israelis?
No, I assume they know the facts as well as me and are quite obviously being crooked by pursuing him in court. 
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They are literally back in Israel as kind of an escape hatch. They destroy a country and when everyone realizes it is them they run to Israel. Like literally just stay in Israel or don't destroy your host nation, it's that simple. 

He'll Israel even openly takes pedophiles and protects them. Do the country is literally so they can go commit crimes and still have a safe haven
I don't follow the politics in Israel. I think though, that you'll find that on average, it probably has a similar proportion of good and bad people as the rest of the world. 

In Australia, we have a sizeable Jewish population. I don't see them as being worse or better than anyone else. Recently, it was their synagogue which was firebombed. A couple of years ago, it was several churches. Last year, a mosque was attacked. 

The current crisis in the Middle East has stirred up a lot of emotions. I don't see it in the streets though. Predominantly, it remains in the domain of the media; although there have been several protests. None of which I have observed.  My family doesn't really talk about it. At church we pray for the conflict to resolve. We pray for comfort for those who have lost loved ones.  I haven't taken sides, even though, one of our elders is a Christian convert from being a Jew.  His family have cut him off. But he's lovely.   He still practices many of his Jewish cultural traditions and provides significant insight into the Bible. 




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In Australia, we have a sizeable Jewish population. I don't see them as being worse or better than anyone else. Recently, it was their synagogue which was firebombed. A couple of years ago, it was several churches.
Likely because the jews imported Muslims there so the synagogue bombing was likely their own fault
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Adam Sandler is awesome. 
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Everyone knows they are unreliable. It's just meant to make a quick judgement in the absence of other information. 
This is exactly the problem. Know it is unreliable but choose to use it to make a judgment before gathering facts. 

You know that most famous sci-fi authors are Mormon? It's interesting isn't it? Wouldn't knowing that help you get in their brain and help you to realize what attributes help them become science fiction writers, particularly if you yourself want to be one?
That would assume causation and not just correlation and I don't want to do that. I know that a bunch were Jewish but there is nothing in Judaism that would impact biology or genetics or sociology so much as to bring about sci fi.

Are you denying that people like Karl Marx have a Jewish background or are you just strawmanning the position by pretending itnis a claim about a sort of cabal or some other nonsense?
Are you assuming that a variable of religuon was at all a causitive factor? He was Jewish by birth. He was also right handed. Which is relevant to his politics and how? What about his love of poetry and Shakespeare? Why are those groups not associated with his philosophy? Then, any assumption about what "the Jews" do or will do depends on believe that we have some collective group think. Call it a cabal or not, but it depends on believing in a monolithic religious bloc.

obviously being crooked by pursuing him in court. 
What? Are you a lawyer? Have you investigated this more than they? Or is it just that because you disagree with their ends, you judge them to be automatically wrong in their means? 
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Are you assuming that a variable of religuon was at all a causitive factor? He was Jewish by birth
Probably genetic. It is an ethno religion. So maybe some genetic predisposition that draws people to harmful leftist ideology, particularly communism. If it is some common Gene that perhaps activates in a sizable minority of Jews. Kind of like Tay Sachs disease or something. 

What? Are you a lawyer? Have you investigated this more than they? Or is it just that because you disagree with their ends, you judge them to be automatically wrong in their means? 
I think it's pretty disgusting to ever lock up your political opponents unless they are overtly or overly corrupt. Hitler locked up his political opponents and my ideology is essentially be the opposite of Hitler. 

Hitler was anti gun, I am pro gun
 Hitler was for Euthanasia,  I am against it. My entire ideology is built around finding the most evil things I can and then being the opposite.  
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Probably genetic. It is an ethno religion. So maybe some genetic predisposition that draws people to harmful leftist ideology, particularly communism. If it is some common Gene that perhaps activates in a sizable minority of Jews. Kind of like Tay Sachs disease or something. 
Seriously? Ok. The shark has left the building. Night folks. 
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This is exactly the problem. Know it is unreliable but choose to use it to make a judgment before gathering facts. 
That's not correctly how to use stereotypes. 

So for example when I played professional poker, if I saw a young black guy sitting at the table and knew nothing else about him, I gave him a psychological profile of aggressive. The second any information comes in at all you change the psychological profile, otherwise it will cost you money and you will be a less profitable poker player. You only use it because it is better than going off no information but obviously you want to use real data as quickly as possible so you are making accurate financial decisions. 
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Seriously? Ok. The shark has left the building. Night folks. 
So there can be a gene for aggressiveness, a gene for homosexuality but a genetic predisposition for certain ideologies is out of the question?
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A stereotype is a local truth applied to a larger group predictively. It is a lazy shorthand which is often wrong. Group trait assumptions are generally wrong. 
Let's call it what it is, bigotry, judging many from the actions of a few is the essence of bigotry.

It would be like deciding everyone from Uruguay was an asshole just because of IlDiavolo. 

Or that everyone in this thread is an asshole just because...well...because they are all being assholes....OK, that was a bad example, but you know what I'm getting at.


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Here. Scientific proof that ideology can be influenced ced by genetics

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4038932/
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that was a meta analysis and you really should go through the conclusion more carefully. Any "influence" would be one of thousands of tiny factors. If you want to hang your hat of a view of the entire of recent history on this tenuous a claim, just say so.
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My claim that Jews are disproportionately represented within leadership within the communist movement?


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That may be a statistical position. But that cannot account for any causation. 
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So what? Who said anything about causation? 

Whether it is their religion as a factor or genetics or millions of factors, why would the causation matter. The reality is that if you want your country to do well the best thing any western society can do is expel the Jews who push for open borders, cutting the dicks off 7 year Olds and all other forms of leftism and degeneracy such as porn and rap music which polluted the mind of the youth. 

I don't know what causes them to be behind so many things ruining society. I don't care if it is a strong minority of them, the truth is that if you just expel them all then the problems go away.
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If you are not claiming causation the the correlation is meaningless. In fact, I suspect that I could find a larger correlation to another group. If it isn't causation and correlation is useless then why use it as an identifier? 
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I will say Jews in business are stingy but on average they donate more to charity than the general population, even low income Jews donate disproportionately. I would like to know what charities they donate to and maybe I would take it back. So if they are donating to causes that harm western society than perhaps it is inherit evil and not generosity at play. On the surface level they appear charitable. 

I will say I have seen more try to get free shit than the general public in some places. When I was 16 and worked at Safeway. There was this free sample policy to allow a free sample of literally everything and some of the Jews would take that policy way too far. I finally stopped letting them sample. Other races would just sample a few items they never tried but the jews would do it to like 15 items and then also be the first to bitch about the prices, which have to be inflated so much because they over sampled. So if they sampled oreos for example. They get an oreo but than the rest of the package would need to be thrown in the trash. Once I stopped letting jews sample. Prices droped
Is that your experience why Jews are disliked?
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You guys are just so degenerate you're going to end up killing yourselves. You push for open borders and it is creating more Muslims in countries that used to be safe for Jews. Pretty soon some Muslim will be voted leader of a nation with nukes. Then it's over. 

Look at all the pro hama campus protests. Chants in America of "from the river to the sea" an open call for extermination of hews because jews were stupid enough to start pushing for immigration. They literally had no ideal that Muslims would reproduce or spread their ideals when they started invading western countries and are now shocked that it happened. 

You guys still overwhelmingly voted for kamala Harris. I feel bad for the Jews who aren't retarded, because they will end up paying for those who are pushing for the shit currently destroying the West who is the only force keeping them safe
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If you are not claiming causation the the correlation is meaningless. In fact, I suspect that I could find a larger correlation to another group. If it isn't causation and correlation is useless then why use it as an identifier?
Correlation hints at causation. Typically there is a hidden causation at that point. So maybe the causation is not religion or genetics. Maybe the causation is that jews were pushed into academia and large cities at a disproportionate rate and that maybe they saw communism as alluring due to Russian opposition to Hitler. 

The reason to bring it up is to pool resources. If we know a certain group is a disproportionate part of the problem we can target resources towards them. So if we know rap music is appealing to the worst instincts of black youth, and we can see that Jews are running the music industry, if we ban jews from the music industry than perhaps what will fill the vacuum is people who want to use music to raise up the morality of black youth as an examlle
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Is that your experience why Jews are disliked?
Yes, kind of the same thing with Indians. Any race that tries to haggle is scum. Like literally if you don't like the price go to a competitor with a lower price. 
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If you are not claiming causation the the correlation is meaningless. In fact, I suspect that I could find a larger correlation to another group. If it isn't causation and correlation is useless then why use it as an identifier? 
Causation is written all over the Wylted reasoning. He states by just expelling them all the problems go away.

Wylted wrote:
Whether it is their religion as a factor or genetics or millions of factors, why would the causation matter. The reality is that if you want your country to do well the best thing any western society can do is expel the Jews who push for open borders, cutting the dicks off 7 year Olds and all other forms of leftism and degeneracy such as porn and rap music which polluted the mind of the youth.

I don't know what causes them to be behind so many things ruining society. I don't care if it is a strong minority of them, the truth is that if you just expel them all then the problems go away.

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If you could narrow in the group. Maybe go 

"Well atheistic jews are mostly behind this" than that's good because we could tighten resources to better punish that group.
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"During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap."

Do you have a source for that?

The antisemitic instincts of the German Army were revealed well before the stab-in-the-back myth became the military's excuse for losing the war. In October 1916, in the middle of the war, the army ordered a Jewish census of the troops, with the intent to show that Jews were under-represented in the Heer (army), and that they were over-represented in non-fighting positions. Instead, the census showed just the opposite, that Jews were over-represented both in the army as a whole and in fighting positions at the front. The Imperial German Army then suppressed the results of the census.[4]

A higher percentage of German Jews fought in World War I than of any other ethnic, religious or political minority in Germany; around 12,000 died in the fighting.[41][42]

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (1920), a forgery which claimed that Jews were taking over the world, was widely circulated. The second half of the 1920s were prosperous, and antisemitism was much less noticeable. When the Great Depression hit in 1929, it surged again as Adolf Hitler and his Nazi party promoted a virulent strain.

I don't in 'particular.
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She is trying to get me to call the religion or eth city the problem. Like it doesn't matter. I don't need to know the religion of Nazis to know they needed to be removed from power. We have a group that is a problem, remove them from areas where they are a problem and problem solved. 

If all healthcare CEOs or most of them were white and fucking people over I would think. Maybe it's whiteness that is the problem let's get some bigger CEOS in there and shake things up
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On the protocols of Zion. Why do you think it predicted everything that is occurring right now with perfect accuracy?

Who made it, because maybe whoever made it, knew something
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The reason to bring it up is to pool resources. If we know a certain group is a disproportionate part of the problem we can target resources towards them. So if we know rap music is appealing to the worst instincts of black youth, and we can see that Jews are running the music industry, if we ban jews from the music industry than perhaps what will fill the vacuum is people who want to use music to raise up the morality of black youth as an examlle
brilliant. And I therefore cannot get a job for which I might be eminently qualified because you see the stereotype and not me. 
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You guys are just so degenerate 
and there you have it. TFP.
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The reason to bring it up is to pool resources. If we know a certain group is a disproportionate part of the problem we can target resources towards them. So if we know rap music is appealing to the worst instincts of black youth, and we can see that Jews are running the music industry, if we ban jews from the music industry than perhaps what will fill the vacuum is people who want to use music to raise up the morality of black youth as an examlle
brilliant. And I therefore cannot get a job for which I might be eminently qualified because you see the stereotype and not me. 
Just try to be more likeable.